Re: how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system

2015-02-17 Thread claude juif
2015-02-17 17:55 GMT+01:00 Andrew Shadura :

> Hi Luke,
>
> On 17 February 2015 at 17:28, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
>  wrote:
> > <265 lines of text and counting snipped>
>
> In short, this is TL;DR. We've all got better things to waste our time
> on. Please go away. Nobody's interested in this any longer regardless
> of their position on systemd.
>
> Thanks.
>

Hi,

Really rude answer. Really bad.


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Re: how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system

2015-02-17 Thread claude juif
2015-02-17 19:29 GMT+01:00 Nathan Schulte :

> Hi Andrew,
>
> On 02/17/2015 11:58 AM, Andrew Shadura wrote:
> > I find it really rude to send emails of about 300 lines of text in
> > total. Extremely rude.
>
> I for one am grateful Luke took the time to write the email he did.  I
> understand it was long and I believe that most won't even take the
> time to read it.  That is unfortunate, as I feel it is extremely
> level-headed and Luke actually wants to work at a resolution, which is
> much more than I can say for some of the other discussions I've been
> reading to try and keep up and stay informed.
>

I agree with this. This discussion is really valuable, and i see no flame
here. Just a discussion.

And that's what i find really wonderful with open source. You can speak
about things, say you are agree or not, and with every single part of
discussion, learn. Learning is the most important things in Linux world IMO.

I will use systemd because i like many of the improvements of it, (even if
i'm a system administrator lol)  but i want to know why some people don't
want to use it.

I learn a lot with that.



>
> The issue is that your reply does not contribute, and instead only
> detracts from the conversation.  I think everyone agrees that the more
> time we spend discussing the less time we spend developing a solution,
> but there is that saying about slowing down to speed up; I think it's
> applicable here.
>
> Please, next time, either disregard the email and keep silent, or make
> your reply relevant to the conversation.
>
> Understanding, addressing, and resolving these issues is *not a waste
> of time*.  If you feel that way, you are welcome to contribute in
> other ways.
>
> These are just my thoughts.
>
> --
> Nate
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