XFS Kernel image packaging

2001-09-25 Thread Russel Ingram
Pardon me if I sound like a newbie here.  I am fairly new to the Debian
way, but I am a Linux veteran.  I have noticed that there are patches
available in the debian package tree for the XFS filesystem but there are
no available kernel-image packages with XFS already built in.  Is there a
specific reason for this or is it just because no one has stepped forward
to offer such a package?

If the latter is true I would be willing to be a maintainer for a
kernel-*-xfs package set if no one else is working on it.  I haven't been
able to find any references specific to making kernel packages in the
packaging manual or the policies so I'm also curious about whether or not
official debian kernel packages are created with the make-kpkg command or
if it has to be done with dpkg-deb tool.  I've used the make-kpkg command
to create kernel packages, but they always come out with a custom-1.00
label on them and I haven't figured out how to get around that.

Thanx,
Russ

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Re: XFS Kernel image packaging

2001-09-25 Thread Russel Ingram
On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Dominik Kubla wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 01:12:52PM -0600, Russel Ingram wrote:
> > Pardon me if I sound like a newbie here.  I am fairly new to the Debian
> > way, but I am a Linux veteran.  I have noticed that there are patches
> > available in the debian package tree for the XFS filesystem but there are
> > no available kernel-image packages with XFS already built in.  Is there a
> > specific reason for this or is it just because no one has stepped forward
> > to offer such a package?
>
> There are _no_ kernel images for patched kernels as far as i can tell.
>
> > If the latter is true I would be willing to be a maintainer for a
> > kernel-*-xfs package set if no one else is working on it.  I haven't been
> > able to find any references specific to making kernel packages in the
> > packaging manual or the policies so I'm also curious about whether or not
> > official debian kernel packages are created with the make-kpkg command or
> > if it has to be done with dpkg-deb tool.  I've used the make-kpkg command
> > to create kernel packages, but they always come out with a custom-1.00
> > label on them and I haven't figured out how to get around that.
>
> Please wait before rolling out a kernel-*-xfs package. Things are in flux
> right now due to XFS and EXT2FS/EXT3FS moving to a common api for extended
> attributes and access control lists.  Andreas Grünbacher warned on the
> acl-devel list that he will have to break binary compatibility for the EXT2FS
> patches.   This is one of the reasons that the EXT2FS-releated EA/ACL stuff
> has not been made available by me.  The ITP still stands, but i will not
> roll out packages i know will break later on.
>
Okie dokie.  Does anyone have an answer for me on how to get around the
custom-1.00 tag on my packages?


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Re: XFS Kernel image packaging

2001-09-26 Thread Russel Ingram
On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, David wrote:

>   At this time being, there's no official XFS kernel images nor
> patches in Debian, however there is xfsprogs as far as I know in Woody
> & Sid.  I am willing to work on an XFS kernel floppy boot disk, but it
> would be pointless cine a kernel image with XFS is bloated by about
> 300K if I'm not mistaken, at least the ones on some of the machines I
> put XFS into.  There are Reiserfs images avaiable however.
>   I certainly would like to get a hold of some XFS based install
> disks if anyone ever has done any with success.
>
> David
>

There is a set of disks for installing on XFS available at
http://www.digitaltux.com.  The only complaint I have with those disks is
that the kernel is not up to date (nor is the version of XFS) and making
the filesystems XFS during the install requires that you jump through some
extra hoops.  I hope to remedy that in the near future as well.

Russ

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Completely OT, just to quickly prove a point.

2001-09-26 Thread Russel Ingram
On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Craig Sanders wrote:

> > I've used the make-kpkg command to create kernel packages, but they
> > always come out with a custom-1.00 label on them and I haven't figured
> > out how to get around that.
>
> RTFM.  see the --revision option.

Does anyone else on this list see this as a fairly unhelpful, and
insulting response to a reasonable question?  Please reply to me directly
and to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  DO NOT REPLY TO THE LIST!

Thanx,
Russ
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Re: Completely OT, just to quickly prove a point.

2001-09-27 Thread Russel Ingram
Thank you all for your kind replies.  It is plain to me that while Craigs
response was not at all polite, I did not give him enough background
information for him to think anything other than that I had not read the
documentation.  In truth, I had read the docs and they don't state that if
you leave the --revision option off it will stick a custom-1.00 string on
your package for you.  It has been pointed out that I should possibly make
a minor bug report against the package and I will.  My appologies to the
list for the whole incident and especially to Craig for some of the things
that were said of list.


Russ
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