Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor
El día 01/12/2004 a 06:28 Steve McIntyre escribio ... > Rather than argue about morality, legality, whatever, shouldn't we be > considering this in other terms - simple usefulness? Instead of asking > "why shouldn't this go into Debian?", ask "why _should_ this go into > Debian?". > I completely agree on this, what is the reason/usefulness to have a cpu monitoring program which "main feature" is to show a naked woman (or man)? Since there are other programs which do the same? does it improves the distribution, user-friendlyness, encourages people to install Debian instead other distros? or ... helps to have Sarge released? > We seem to have a growing and worrying trend to pick up any random > free software and add it to the distribution without considering > whether it's actually useful or not... I do also agree on this and with previous post about a sort of guidelines to determine what are the means to pick a piece of software and put it into the archives (ain't talking about ban-this-and-that DG) regards, Rudy -- ++ | Somos libres, seamoslo con software libre * http://debian.org | ++ | http://www.apesol.org.pe -*- http://stone-head.org | | GPG FP: 0D12 8537 607E 2DF5 4EFB 35A7 550F 1A00 3433 BD21 | ++ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Let's remove mips, mipsel, s390 ... [or have strict arch: control? ]
On 22/02/2005 at 10:11 Wouter Verhelst wrote... > I agree that we should not continue to provide software for outdated > hardware platforms just for the sake of it; but as it is, there are > still people interested in m68k (some hobbyists, some embedded > developers, some who just use their old trusty hardware as their home > firewall, etc) and, I'm sure, other currently less-used hardware, so as > long as a port doesn't continually stall the release (which none > currently does; there are occasionally problems, but that happens in > every major undertaking), I see no reason to drop any port. > Regarding this issue I was thinking about it since I've faced in a situation where a package[0] I maintain does have "high" hardware requirements, which led me to think if it is really wise to have it with "arch: any" since probably in some arches it would not ever be installed/used, or even if case it will run really slow or even crash and the user will not enjoy the software as was intended by upstream, so maybe it doesn't make sense to have this software sent to autobuilders and waste their resources/time for this, probably there are more software with the same kind of hw reqs. in Debian. I think if each package does specify the arches where it could *actually* be used/installed will save time and resources, which can be used the most urgent/important ones, so in the end this probably would help the situation for buildds' disk space, mirrors claiming not having disk space to add another arch, large queue on buildds and posibibly make life easier for porters and Debian releases. I don't know much about buildd infrastructure[1], if such thing was proposed or commented before (didn't check archives), if there's another way to handle this, or if such things probably could be better handled as a policy (to enforce and be more strict on this due growing number of packages) for maintainers double check the arch: line to question themselves if its really worth to have "any" or just put there only the ones which does. I'd rather be more helpful than "hey let's do this" but imho this could be easily addressed by encouraging to double checking "arch", unless there are better options. regards, Rudy 0- torcs, a 3D OpenGL game, it needs at least 550MHZ CPU, >32MB OpenGL 1.3 Video Card and so on... upstream says it works on i386 and ppc (both confirmed by me) but have no news from other', it has built sucessful though. 1- although this tread is very informative -- Rudy Godoy | 0x3433BD21 | http://stone-head.org ,''`. http://www.apesol.org - http://www.debian.org : :' : GPG FP: 0D12 8537 607E 2DF5 4EFB 35A7 550F 1A00 3433 BD21 `. `' `- signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: HOWTO Help (was: Debian DPL Debate Comments)
El día 23/03/2005 a 05:32 Alexander Schmehl escribio ... > * Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [050322 22:25]: > > > > AFAIK we don't have a good "What you can do to help us" documentation > > > (please correct me, if I am wrong). > > How about http://www.debian.org/devel/join/ ? > > Which is linked from the main debian.org page (bottom left: "Help Debian") > > I think it is quite short and is missing some quite easy tasks that can > be done by nearly everyone. > It's a very good start... > I did the mentioned talk and am about to write the document, because I > got asked a couple of times what people can do to help us, so I think > there is need for a more detailed document about that. > Sure, there's always people asking for such things and such a documment would be really helpful for them and the end for Debian. I've heard damog did similar thing recently. I've tried to do a start working on similar documment after my talk at DC4, not made real progress though, but I'd be more than likely to work on this once I manage to "get things on the road" again. Probably putting a draft of what you've summarized on debian-doc can be a good starting point. regards, -Rudy -- Rudy Godoy | 0x3433BD21 | http://stone-head.org ,''`. http://www.apesol.org - http://www.debian.org : :' : GPG FP: 0D12 8537 607E 2DF5 4EFB 35A7 550F 1A00 3433 BD21 `. `' `- signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#309861: ITP: xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin -- rapid launcher plugin for the Xfce4 panel
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Debian Xfce Maintainers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin Version : 0.8 Upstream Author : Masse Nicolas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.example.org/ * License : GPL Description : rapid launcher plugin for the Xfce4 panel Application launcher plugin for the Xfce panel. . Main differences from the original Xfce panel: . - Multiline support - Easy and fast configuration - Zoom effect . Homepage: http://xfce-goodies.berlios.de/ -- System Information: Debian Release: 3.1 APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: powerpc (ppc) Kernel: Linux 2.6.10-powerpc Locale: LANG=es_PE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=es_PE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#309860: ITP: xfce4-genmon-plugin -- Generic Monitor for the Xfce4 panel
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Debian Xfce Maintainers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: xfce4-genmon-plugin Version : 1.1 Upstream Author : Roger Seguin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://xfce-goodies.berlios.de * License : LGPL Description : Generic Monitor for the Xfce4 panel This plugin cyclically spawn the indicated script/program, displaying its output as a string into the panel. It could be useful for periodic monitoring of program's status. . Homepage: http://xfce-goodies.berlios.de/ -- System Information: Debian Release: 3.1 APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: powerpc (ppc) Kernel: Linux 2.6.10-powerpc Locale: LANG=es_PE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=es_PE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#309862: ITP: xfce4-cpugraph-plugin -- cpu load grap plugin for the Xfce4 panel
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Debian Xfce Maintainers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: xfce4-cpugraph-plugin Version : 0.2.2 Upstream Author : Alexander Nordfelth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://xfce-goodies.berlios.de/ * License : BSD Description : cpu load grap plugin for the Xfce4 panel The cpugraph plugin displays a graph from your latest systemload. . Homepage: http://xfce-goodies.berlios.de/ -- System Information: Debian Release: 3.1 APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: powerpc (ppc) Kernel: Linux 2.6.10-powerpc Locale: LANG=es_PE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=es_PE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#309863: ITP: xfce4-fsguard-plugin -- filesystem monitor plugin for the Xfce4 panel
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Debian Xfce Maintainers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: xfce4-fsguard-plugin Version : 0.2.0 Upstream Author : Andre Lerche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://xfce-goodies.berlios.de/ * License : BSD Description : filesystem monitor plugin for the Xfce4 panel The fsguard plugin checks free space on a chosen mountpoint frequently and displays an alarm if free space is less than given alarm limit. . Homepage: http://xfce-goodies.berlios.de/ -- System Information: Debian Release: 3.1 APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: powerpc (ppc) Kernel: Linux 2.6.10-powerpc Locale: LANG=es_PE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=es_PE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?
El día 24/08/2006 a 11:25 Michelle Konzack escribió... > Am 2006-07-28 13:35:30, schrieb Katrina Jackson: > > > You say Ubuntu has better publicity, which it does. But why is this the > > case? I know Mark has more money, but since you have so many programmers, > > He is Miliardaire (TV interview and his own words). > > > and seem so passionate about your OS, why aren't you as successful getting > > publicity? I'm not accusing anyone. I guess I just really would like to > > know: > > Do we need publicity of tens of million Euros? > > > A.) Could Debian do anything to get better publicity and change people's > > perceptions. (For instance, if Debian is so more "well build" then Ubuntu > > why don't the press keep mentioning this? > > Do you want to pay the making of such publicity? > Ubuntu/Canonical is commercial while Debian is a volunter > organization. I do believe it's more a matter of relations with press and media than budget. We have no easy-way-to-get-it to tell people why they would want to use Debian. Ubuntu, on the other hand, has achieved to do so, and what they tell that we can't? nothing. All what they advertise we do offer. But we are not good on advertise our OS. We need to tell people: Debian is fine for you because it allows you to get your work done and be productive, whether you are an artist, corporate employee, student, doctor, etc. (I didn't mention computer savy people since we are well known there, so why advertise for them, if we have an important "market share" on that segment?). That kind of advertisement, focusing on things that matter for people more than specs and technical details, which are only interesting for those who already in the computing area. I know there is a subproject working on such things, which is great. > > > B.) Why hasn't more been done? Why isn't there any major reports by like > > PC World which say "Ubuntu is top 100 products, but man if you want a better > > distro, more well built etc.. you should check out Debian. > > Because Ubunto pay for ranking? ;-) No, I still believe we need more people and relations with press, and not only the technical ones, we should advertise more our work and good experiences like donzka, LinEx, and the others. Not only tell ourselves: we know we are doing things better. We should tell it to others too! regards -- Rudy Godoy | 0x3433BD21 | http://stone-head.org ,''`. http://www.apesol.org - http://www.debian.org : :' : GPG FP: 0D12 8537 607E 2DF5 4EFB 35A7 550F 1A00 3433 BD21 `. `' `- signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#389201: ITP: chillispot -- Wireless LAN Access Point Controller
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rudy Godoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: chillispot Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Jens Jakobsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.chillispot.org/ * License : GPL-2 Programming Lang: C Description : Wireless LAN Access Point Controller ChilliSpot is an open source captive portal or wireless LAN access point controller. It supports web based login which is today's standard for public HotSpots and it supports Wireless Protected Access (WPA) which is the standard of the future. Authentication, Authorization and Accounting (AAA) is handled by your favorite radius server. Read more on http://www.chillispot.org -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable') Architecture: powerpc (ppc) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.17-2-powerpc Locale: LANG=es_PE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=es_PE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xfce-goodies - help needed; Rudy Godoy MIA?
Citando Simon Huggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I know the -goodies packages are in bad shape. > > > Please take some time to help figure out what should be done with > > these packages -- cleaned up/adopted, or removed from the archive -- > > before ITPing more packages in the xfce4 namespace. > > Sure. I think for sarge they can be cleaned up/updated. I've just > finished a stretch getting the 22 packages for the main body of xfce4 > for 4.2.0 for experimental sorted this weekend so I'm a bit knackered > currently. > > To be honest I'd been expecting others to sort out the -plugins for > sarge given people had said they would. > Hi, > Rudy Godoy seemed interested at one point but now his mail is bouncing > though I'm ccing him again in case it got fixed. > I've already had the new revisions waiting for a while at mentors.debian.net I've asked a couple (or more) of times for sponsoring at -mentors and to the xfce team withouth luck. Didn't "pushed" that much anyway, I mean talk to my actual sponsors, I was going to do ask for it in these days. Well, despite all that, I'm able to provide the updates for such packages and a couple of new plugins like wireless monitor. I'll upload all them this week to my website, so any prospective sponsor can grab and hopefully push them into the archives. regards, -Rudy This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xfce-goodies - help needed; Rudy Godoy MIA?
El día 18/01/2005 a 12:53 Emanuele Rocca escribio ... > WNPP bugs for some of the -goodies need to be retitled from O: to ITP:. > They wouldn't be ITA? > I found the time to check -battery-plugin and -clipman-plugin, and I > must admit that they're not in a good shape (ITP bugs not closed in the > changelog, bugs marked as fixed are actually still reproducible, lintian > is not happy)... > I don't see any ITP bugs on those both. Yes, they had some lintian warning that I've managed to clean now. > I don't want to be rude, but I am wondering if Rudy is the right person > for these 13 packages, considering that he's got 9 packages in main > yet. > Rudy, have you really got the time to maintain all the -goodies > properly? > I've been working in 8 current packages and 2 new (wavelan and weather). I wasn't considering to manage all myself, in fact I think they (all 13) could be maintained in collaborative way. For now I guess Simon's new list is a very good start towards it. > Why is the Debian Xfce Packages Alioth project dead? [0] > IMHO putting these packages under collaborative maintenance would be a > better idea. > Yes, I agree on this. In fact I remember asking for some "review" from other Xfce maintainers before upload/ask for sponsorship. regards, -Rudy signature.asc Description: Digital signature
