Re: Bug#378863: ITP: libcsoap1-dev -- library in C for SOAP network protocol (SOAP is a form of RPC) development
On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 04:26:18PM +0200, Magnus Holmgren wrote: > On Wednesday 19 July 2006 14:06, Rudi Cilibrasi took the opportunity to write: > > * Package name: libcsoap1-dev > > Version : 1.047 > You need only post one ITP bug per source package. And AFAICS there is just > one which builds both the library and the development files. > BTW, isn't the version number of the latest stable release 1.0.4? Dear Magnus, Thanks so much for these tips. I have closed both libcsoap1-dev and libcsoap1 and opened up a new ITP based on your suggestion called libcsoap. Also, I have changed the version number to 1.0.4. Thanks again for your useful comments. Cheers Rudi Cilibrasi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#378876: Bug#378872: ITP: libsvm0 -- LibSVM is a machine-learning library providing Support Vector Machines in C++
On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 12:55:23AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.07.19.1353 +0100]: > > * Package name: libsvm0 > > * Package name: libsvm0-dev > > * Package name: libsvm0-tools > > * Package name: libsvm-doc > > * Package name: libsvm-ruby1.8 > > These all look like packages you want to generate from a single > source package. Also, libsvm0-dev is a bad name, IMHO, because the > ABI, which the 0 identifies, is not relevant for the -dev package, > unless the 0 also specifies the API version. > > I suggest you merge the five bugs into one as ITPs are generally per > source package. Dear Martin, Thanks for pointing this problem out to me. I am new at packaging and made several similar errors in other packages as well at first. I have followed your advice and closed down all the old packages and opened a new one called libsvm. I have also renamed libsvm0-dev to libsvm-dev. Thanks for the info! Cheers, Rudi Cilibrasi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to promote Linux: make schools migrate! (Agenda)
Am Samstag, 15. Mai 2004 04:40 schrieb Timothy Demulder: > I didn't find that in your mail, but all this is just IMHO. > I'm absolutly no teacher btw, just another geek helping an elementary > school. Hi Timothy again, how's your work proceeded, meanwhile? Thanks again for your valuable comments, I think it is really important to tell pupils, it is not "Linux" to blame when, say, KDE's kicker crashes. [No, don't start defending - I am talking bout KDE 2.x :) ] BTW: Connected to this thread, there was some "Linux New Media Award" for a debian based Linux distro called "Skolelinux" that specializes to schools' needs AFAIK. Educational Debian packages named preinstalled are gcompris, kmplot, tuxtype, kgeo, ... So, apparantly, there are already many developers thinking of the generation to follow - which is just great :) Regards rUdi
Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers
Am Sonntag 01 Januar 2006 19:46 schrieb Joseph Michael Smidt: > h) Advocacy I have given to the open source community. Dear Joseph, happy new year to you all. In this matter, I'd like to stress the importance to gain the youth, i.e. pupils, for free software, i.e. GNU/Linux. I plea to support all Edu-Projects (KDE-Edu, Debian-Edu etc.), therefore. Spread kid-friendly live CDs to your environment (I can recommend http://www.skolelinux.no/~conrad/snofrix.html), ask your local school to use free software, develop artwork and software for pupils and kids. That's my 2 pence for now. Regards rUdi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to create Debian Live CD
Am Mittwoch 08 Februar 2006 09:51 schrieb Chandan M. C.: > I have installed on my system.. > But I didnt get excat procedure to build a live cd with my own root > file system ( may the host root file system) ... hi, try livebackup regards rudi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unrar version confusion
Am Freitag, 20. Mai 2005 21:49 schrieb Nico Golde: > Ah ok thats good news. > Regards and thanks > Nico the unfree packages have been renamed to unrar-nonfree. the unrar package in main is free - but does not support some current rar features. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#380268: ITP: libcomplearn-ruby -- Ruby bindings for libcomplearn tree search and compression analysis library
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libcomplearn-ruby Version : 0.5.4 Upstream Author : Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://complearn.org/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C,Ruby Description : Ruby bindings for libcomplearn tree search and compression analysis library The Ruby interface provides convenient high-level abstractions that allow easy use of compression calculations and quartet tree search from libcomplearn. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers testing APT policy: (500, 'testing'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.15-1-k7 Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#380308: ITP: libsvm-ruby -- Ruby binding to the LibSVM pattern recognition using SVM library
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libsvm-ruby Version : 2.8.2 Upstream Author : Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://rubysvm.cilibrar.com/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C++,Ruby Description : Ruby binding to the LibSVM pattern recognition using SVM library This is the Ruby binding to the popular LibSVM machine learning system. It allows you to train and use Support Vector Machines using Ruby. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers testing APT policy: (500, 'testing'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.15-1-k7 Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug Squashing Party: Priority queue?
Dear dd's, I just found an invitation for a debian-edu bug squashing party at central Germany [1]. As this is quite a distance from where I live, I probably won't make it myself - but will try to join the team via IRC (#debian-edu). Now I wonder, if there is more folks around who might be joining, and (most important), if we have a list of topmost relevant bugs to fix? These are the ressources I'd go for in the first place: http://bugs.debian.org http://bugs.skolelinux.no http://wiki.debian.org Thanks Rudi [1] http://wiki.skolelinux.de/BugSquashing2006 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reforming the NM process
Dear Marc and fellow Debian friends, Thanks for this cogent and clear summary of the problem as you see it. It reminds me a bit of the problem of scientific peer-review; for-pay journals often ask people to donate their limitted time reviewing other people's work. Although the journal profits, the reviewer does not directly benefit from reviewing, usually. This has always struck me as backwards-incentives. In my opinion, the for-profit journals should compensate skilled and rare scientists for their time when reviewing papers. Everybody knows reviewing other people's papers for the first time is the most boring work. And nobody has enough time yet it's a bottleneck in the whole process. So why not pay for it? So long as the reviewer is respected enough to make a good judgment, it shouldn't be impossible to coordinate some direct compensation to ease the pain if the task is commonly-agreed to be painful. People pay a fee to take most certifying exams for example. I wonder if the same could be applied to Debian? (note I am not a NM/DD yet) I think Debian has really taken off as a new nexus for open source and would expect if it were possible to make a money contribution to speed up the NM queue many would be up for it. After all, many of us have been using Debian for years and we all depend heavily on bug-free and recent software. I think Debian has served as one of the great successes in open-source quality assurance process (along with the Linux and BSD kernels) but there is clearly a problem of too much boring work leading to bottlenecks repeatedly. What if we make an AM salary-pool (open for donations all the time) and pay out once a month say 10% of the total pool in proportion to the number of people "checked"? Then more donations mean bigger incentives for any of the qualified AM's to grab some cash. Maybe there can be a very small number (1-3) of AM-managers that ensure AM checking quality doesn't go downhill or become corrupted as a result and ensures proper credits are given that lead to proportional compensation for those willing to put in the extra hours for AM checking in a major way? We certainly wouldn't want to get a new crop of for-money-only AM's, but this doesn't mean (to me) that we shouldn't consider helping our very rare, necessary and current skillful AM's devote more time to the cause without so much personal sacrifice. We would all benefit from getting the rare good developers sooner into the project I think. I remember a similar system has been used quite successfully for a long time in the RSA factoring challenge [1] to encourage integer factoring research; I myself was one of many people who tried (and failed!) to get a piece of the pie even though it was a relatively small amount of money being offered each quarter. It was simply divided according to a point-based system that made new longer-number breakthroughs worth more. Even though I never got paid I thought it was a fun and effective way of pushing my interest in a possibly dry field. Here is one of the unexpected humor breakthroughs that RSA encouraged.[2] I wonder what kind of knock-on effects we could expect if Debian had a similar system going. Best regards, Rudi 1. http://www.rsasecurity.com/rsalabs/node.asp?id=2094 2. http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.c++/browse_frm/thread/a7cc5e74e12fca4d/6bedcbfa8c15b994?lnk=st&q=factoring+rudi&rnum=1&hl=en#6bedcbfa8c15b994
Bug#378858: ITP: libcsoap1 -- library in C for SOAP network protocol (SOAP is a form of RPC)
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libcsoap1 Version : 1.047 Upstream Author : Ferhat Ayaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://csoap.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : library in C for SOAP network protocol (SOAP is a form of RPC) This library written by Ferhat Ayaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and Michael Rans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> provides an easy way to call methods remotely using the Simple Object Access Protocol (SOAP) using C. It is popular and used for providing many types of web services. It is similar to XMLRPC but includes more features. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers testing APT policy: (500, 'testing'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.15-1-k7 Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#378863: ITP: libcsoap1-dev -- library in C for SOAP network protocol (SOAP is a form of RPC) development
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libcsoap1-dev Version : 1.047 Upstream Author : Ferhat Ayaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://csoap.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : library in C for SOAP network protocol (SOAP is a form of RPC) development This package provides the compilation support files such as C language headers for using libcsoap1, the Simple Object Access Protocol library. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers testing APT policy: (500, 'testing'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.15-1-k7 Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#378865: ITP: libnanohttp1 -- nanohttp library from the CSOAP package, for small lightweight SOAP services
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libnanohttp1 Version : 1.047 Upstream Author : Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://csoap.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : nanohttp library from the CSOAP package, for small lightweight SOAP services (Include the long description here.) This minimal library written in C supports generalized Simple Object Access Protocol communication as part of the CSOAP package. The functions in this library are geared towards server-side SOAP message handling. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers testing APT policy: (500, 'testing'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.15-1-k7 Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#378866: ITP: libnanohttp1-dev -- header files for nanohttp simple SOAP server library in C
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libnanohttp1-dev Version : 1.047 Upstream Author : Ferhat Ayaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://csoap.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : header files for nanohttp simple SOAP server library in C (Include the long description here.) This package provides development support files (.h) and a pkg-config file for easy configuration and usage in developing your own software using libnanohttp1. The library provides convenient routines for server-side SOAP functions. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers testing APT policy: (500, 'testing'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.15-1-k7 Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#378873: ITP: libsvm0-dev -- development files for LibSVM machine-learning / artificial intelligence lib
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libsvm0-dev Version : 2.8.2 Upstream Author : Chih-Jen Lin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.csie.ntu.edu.tw/~cjlin/libsvm/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : development files for LibSVM machine-learning / artificial intelligence lib (Include the long description here.) -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers testing APT policy: (500, 'testing'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.15-1-k7 Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#378872: ITP: libsvm0 -- LibSVM is a machine-learning library providing Support Vector Machines in C++
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libsvm0 Version : 2.8.2 Upstream Author : Chih-Jen Lin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.csie.ntu.edu.tw/~cjlin/libsvm/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C++ Description : LibSVM is a machine-learning library providing Support Vector Machines in C++ (Include the long description here.) Support Vector Machines have become as popular and powerful as Neural Networks and have outpaced them in certain application domains. LibSVM provides a fast, simple, and easy to use interface to training, testing, and using for prediction your own custom SVM's. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers testing APT policy: (500, 'testing'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.15-1-k7 Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#378876: ITP: libsvm0-tools -- commands to train an SVM, predict using an SVM, or scale data for LibSVM
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libsvm0-tools Version : 2.8.2 Upstream Author : Chih-Jen Lin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (programming) * URL : http://www.csie.ntu.edu.tw/~cjlin/libsvm/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : commands to train an SVM, predict using an SVM, or scale data for LibSVM This package contains executables for using Support Vector Machines with libsvm0. It provides svm-train to make new SVM's, svm-predict to make predictions after they are trained, and svm-scale to adjust the range of your data prior to input. These tools are primarily of interest to artificial intelligence researchers. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers testing APT policy: (500, 'testing'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.15-1-k7 Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#378877: ITP: libsvm-doc -- documentation and example files for use with libsvm, a machine learning lib
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libsvm-doc Version : 2.8.2 Upstream Author : Chih-Jen Lin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.csie.ntu.edu.tw/~cjlin/libsvm/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : documentation and example files for use with libsvm, a machine learning lib This package contains all the documentation and example files that can be used with the standalone commands or fed into the library using C. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers testing APT policy: (500, 'testing'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.15-1-k7 Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#378878: ITP: libsvm-ruby1.8 -- Ruby binding to the LibSVM pattern recognition using SVM library
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libsvm-ruby1.8 Version : 2.8.2 Upstream Author : Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.example.org/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : Ruby binding to the LibSVM pattern recognition using SVM library This is the Ruby binding to the popular LibSVM machine learning system. It allows you to train and use Support Vector Machines using Ruby 1.8. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers testing APT policy: (500, 'testing'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.15-1-k7 Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#378939: ITP: libcomplearn -- machine learning through data compression library and tools for AI research
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libcomplearn Version : 0.9.3 Upstream Author : Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://complearn.org/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: C Description : machine learning through data compression library and tools for AI research The CompLearn library provides a pragmatic and mathematically-oriented wrapper around common data compression programs to provide a theoretically clean, simple, and consistent interface suitable for use in oblivious clustering, pattern recognition and supervised learning, and other forms of machine learning and artificial intelligence in a wide variety of research or application domains. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers testing APT policy: (500, 'testing'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.15-1-k7 Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#379048: ITP: libcsoap -- library in C for SOAP network protocol (SOAP is a form of RPC with objects)
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libcsoap Version : 1.0.4 Upstream Author : Ferhat Ayaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://csoap.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : library in C for SOAP network protocol (SOAP is a form of RPC with objects) This library written by Ferhat Ayaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and Michael Rans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> provides an easy way to call methods remotely using the Simple Object Access Protocol (SOAP) using C. It is popular and used for providing many types of web services. It is similar to XMLRPC but includes more features. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers testing APT policy: (500, 'testing'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.15-1-k7 Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#379051: ITP: libsvm -- LibSVM is a machine-learning library providing Support Vector Machines in C++
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libsvm Version : 2.8.2 Upstream Author : Chih-Jen Lin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.csie.ntu.edu.tw/~cjlin/libsvm/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C++ Description : LibSVM is a machine-learning library providing Support Vector Machines in C++ Support Vector Machines have become as popular and powerful as Neural Networks and have outpaced them in certain application domains. LibSVM provides a fast, simple, and easy to use interface to training, testing, and using for prediction your own custom SVM's. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers testing APT policy: (500, 'testing'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.15-1-k7 Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#379087: ITP: libcomplearn -- data-compression based intelligence lib in C for machine learning researchers
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libcomplearn Version : 0.9.3 Upstream Author : Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://complearn.org/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: C Description : data-compression based intelligence lib in C for machine learning researchers CompLearn is a suite of simple-to-use utilities that you can use to apply compression techniques to the process of discovering and learning patterns. The compression-based approach used is powerful because it can mine patterns in completely different domains. It can classify musical styles of pieces of music and identify unknown composers. It can identify the language of bodies of text. It can discover the relationships between species of life and even the origin of new unknown viruses such as SARS. Other uncharted areas are up to you to explore. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers testing APT policy: (500, 'testing'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.15-1-k7 Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#379103: ITP: complearn-gui -- 3D drag-and-drop interface to CompLearn universal data mining system
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: complearn-gui Version : 0.9.3 Upstream Author : Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://complearn.org/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: C Description : 3D drag-and-drop interface to CompLearn universal data mining system complearn-gui provides an easy-to-use GUI interface to try experimenting with the CompLearn tree building system. To use, simply run clfun and drag and drop 4-20 files into the main window. Then wait to see an optimal tree built right before your eyes in a 3D virtual world. As new better trees are found, the tree will morph to reflect the new organization. You can drop text samples, genetic samples, or whatever other (uncompressed) data you like to see hierarchical clustering in action. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers testing APT policy: (500, 'testing'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.15-1-k7 Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#379104: ITP: complearn-mpi -- parallel quartet tree search system for clusters / supercomputers using MPI
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: complearn-mpi Version : 0.9.3 Upstream Author : Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://complearn.org/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: C Description : parallel quartet tree search system for clusters / supercomputers using MPI Trying to find optimal binary trees matching a given distance matrix is an NP-hard problem in general. For more than 100 objects this usually makes it infeasible to solve exactly. In practice it can be approximated but a quartet tree search system can require a lot of CPU time even using sophisticated heuristics because tree scoring is slow. This package provides a quiescent parallel manager-worker quartet tree search system with some amount of fault tolerance using MPI. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers testing APT policy: (500, 'testing'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.15-1-k7 Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: interacting with the press
Am Mittwoch, 13. Juli 2005 04:04 schrieb Nigel Jones: > I don't see how his comment was slagging them off. Maybe "slagging off" is not the right expression. Apart from the last sentence that I don't really understand (as non-native speaker), I could imagine that Anand was annoyed about his comments on Ubuntu that expressed the fear that the project might fork... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Developing a kiosk type system - advice needed
Am Dienstag, 4. Oktober 2005 12:41 schrieb Simon Guerrero: > 1. Make the disk read-only How about a software application of what many hardware "PC guards" (and likewise) do: Use unionfs as a layer that you put away at any reboot to obtain the original system. Regards Rudi Effe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
live-magic: python-error during post-install
#apt-get install live-magic ... Richte live-magic ein (0.3-1) ... Compiling /var/lib/python-support/python2.3/livemagic/model/key_var_config_file.py ... File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.3/livemagic/model/key_var_config_file.py", line 28 @staticmethod ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#472099: ITP: libcoveb -- cache oblivious van Emde Boas stratified tree optimized for 32-bit integers
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libcoveb Version : 1.0.3 Upstream Author : Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.complearn.org/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: C Description : cache oblivious van Emde Boas stratified tree optimized for 32-bit integers Sometimes, O(log n) performance is just not fast enough for very large sorted queues. When dealing with millions of elements, a theoretically ideal choice is implemented in this library and tuned for high speed throughput of at least a millions operations per second at all queue sizes from one up to four billion entries. Using a sophisticated overlapping key tree representation, O(log(log n)) performance is achieved in this priority queue implementation. In practice, this means it uses less time and memory than typical range finding data structures like binary trees or B-Trees. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers stable APT policy: (500, 'stable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.8-2-686 Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US (charmap=ISO-8859-1) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#411053: ITP: libnexus -- library supporting the NEXUS scientific data file format
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libnexus Version : 3.0.0 Upstream Author : Freddie Akeroyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.nexusformat.org/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C, C++, Fortran Description : library supporting the NEXUS scientific data file format This library provides an API to support saving and loading scientific data files. It uses HDF as an underlying format. Using Nexus, scientific programs can work together more easily. There are also some simple command-line utilities included in the distribution. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.16-2-486 Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#411053: ITP: libnexus -- library supporting the NEXUS scientific data file format
Dear Charles, Thanks for this alert. I have reviewed the website and software a bit. It looks like perhaps one day it could become another alternative Debian package to my own which would be nice. I think the logical name for the other library, the "Nexus Class Library", would be libncl. This would handily avoid conflict with libnexus. Thanks again for your input, Rudi On 2/16/07, Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Le Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 03:14:36PM +0100, Rudi Cilibrasi a écrit : > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > * Package name: libnexus > Version : 3.0.0 > Upstream Author : Freddie Akeroyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : http://www.nexusformat.org/ > * License : GPL > Programming Lang: C, C++, Fortran > Description : library supporting the NEXUS scientific data file format Dear Rudi, I do not know what impact it can have on your packaging work, but there is another library which calls itself NEXUS (in fact, Nexus Class Library). http://hydrodictyon.eeb.uconn.edu/ncl/ Currently, it is not packaged but it is used by at least one package, from the orig.tar.gz. Have a nice day, -- Charles Plessy http://charles.plessy.org Wako, Saitama, Japan -- Experiment with Artificial Intelligence at http://complearn.org/
Bug#425278: ITP: libqsearch -- hierarchical clustering library using quartet tree reconstruction algorithm
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libqsearch Version : 0.9.9 Upstream Author : Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.complearn.org/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: C Description : hierarchical clustering library using quartet tree reconstruction algorithm libqsearch is a general-purpose data-mining library. It creates a hierarchical clustering in the form of an unrooted binary tree based on an input square matrix of numbers. No matter what kind of distance matrix you input into the system, it will search for the closest fitting unrooted binary tree that best represents the structural relationships between the objects as specified in the input matrix. This package is useful with (and was once part of) the complearn package and is compatible with the text, CompLearn Binary, and Nexus file formats. It outputs graphviz compatible .dot and Nexus format trees. This system has been used for phylogenetic analysis of genetic sequences to reconstruct probable evolutionary histories, language analysis, and many other areas. -- System Information: Debian Release: 4.0 APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-4-486 Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Annoying GTK2 file dialogue - where to file the BUG?
Dear list, for some reason, Debian favors Gnome to be the default desktop. My reason for using KDE is mainly Gnomes file browser. But as a matter of fact, major applications are using the GTK2 libraries (Mozilla, Openoffice.org, Gimp, Audacity etc.) - and Opneoffice.org is the only one that allows to use the KDE file selector. Now, what's wrong with the GTK2 file chooser? I will report a bug if anybody could name the package/library I have to refer to. Look at this screen shot for instance: http://imagebin.ca/view/wxHN3lH.html (1) all entries are displayed twice (2) there is no option to sort by size or to even display size. maybe this must be enabled by the calling app (audacity here) - but if this option is not diallowed explicitly, it should be possible to add it by the browsing user. (3) whenever I tell Mozilla to open a dialogue with a specific app, I can (to be quick) enter its path right in the file name box (say: /usr/bin/ark). Next time however, the file selector will start browsing that directory (/usr/bin) and produce a hang lasting at least 4-5 seconds. Suspecting - missing caching - slow algorithms - bad threading (4) missing eyecandiness: grey and simple icons, no rounded corners, dominating dark grey, low percentage of area used for content/ information (too much frame). Sorry, don't get me wrong - I just wanted to share my personal impression of this fun stopper - it's like a hair in a five star soup! Regards Rudi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Annoying GTK2 file dialogue - where to file the BUG?
Dear Sam, thank you for your patient and thorough reply. I added my points to some existing bug reports - I hope they won't get me wrong. Am Samstag 09 August 2008 schrieb Sam Morris: > This is simply due to the default GTK+ theme being, well, rubbish. If > you change your theme to the default GNOME theme then things will > look much better. You can do this by running > gnome-appearance-properties which appears to work by fiddling with > the values of the gconf keys under '/desktop/gnome/interface'. Well, with KDE, I get a /!\ Warning: "Unable to start the settings manager 'gnome-settings-daemon'. Without the GNOME settings manager running, some preferences may not take effect. This could indicate a problem with Bonobo, or a non-GNOME (e.g. KDE) settings manager may already be active and conflicting with the GNOME settings manager." Maybe I need to install Gnome Desktop and run this tool from there? But maybe there is a global option to replace the gtk+ FileChooser by any other fileselectbox (as known from Atari GEMDOS)... @Michael: You are possibly right - but: - Developers tend to know better what component is responsible - Next to bugzilla, a developer list might be a working option to reach the GTK+ coders themselves. Sorry rUdi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Annoying GTK2 file dialogue - where to file the BUG?
Am Mittwoch 13 August 2008 schrieb Johannes Wiedersich: > Install gtk-qt-engine and configure it from control centre. Hey Joe, thanks for the hint! Def'ney better look'n'feel - but I still have to wait 3-4 minutes when ever I want to open an ICS with iceowl from firefox... Would love to get rid of this crappy file dialog. Cheers Rudi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#457778: ITP: blm -- compute set operations on line-oriented files: and, or, xor, and more.
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: blm Version : 0.9.0 Upstream Author : Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://cilibrar.com/~cilibrar/projsup/blm-0.9.0.tar.gz * License : BSD Programming Lang: C++ Description : compute set operations on line-oriented files: and, or, xor, and more. Line oriented files may be considered to represent sets of strings. blm computes set intersection, set union, set difference, and set "exclusive or" via a convenient command-line interface. blm stands for Boolean line manipulator. blm lets you easily and quickly answer questions like which lines appear in essential.txt and wanted.txt but not prevented.txt. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers stable APT policy: (500, 'stable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.8-2-686 Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US (charmap=ISO-8859-1) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#457821: ITP: msrp -- meta search and replace is a utility to rename files and gsub contents
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: msrp Version : 0.9.0 Upstream Author : Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://cilibrar.com/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: C++ Description : meta search and replace renames files and gsubs contents The Meta Search and Replace (msrp) program is a simple utility that lets you quickly rename symbols or functions or classes or anything using Perl 5 compatible regular expressions. msrp is a time saver because it applies your substitution to both the contents of files as well as the filenames themselves. Back substitution using backslash is supported. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers stable APT policy: (500, 'stable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.8-2-686 Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US (charmap=ISO-8859-1) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#457922: ITP: israndom -- nonclassical randomness test using data compressors
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: israndom Version : 1.0.6 Upstream Author : Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://cilibrar.com/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: C Description : nonclassical randomness test using data compressors israndom tests a sequence of symbols for randomness. israndom tries to determine if a given sequence of trials could reasonably be assumed to come from a random uniform distribution over a fixed-size alphabet of 2-256 symbols. It uses mathematical results from Kolmogorov Complexity theory and Shannon entropy (in classical information theory) in order to determine if a given sequence is effectively random or not. It does this by bounding the Kolmogorov complexity function from above using compressors. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers stable APT policy: (500, 'stable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.8-2-686 Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US (charmap=ISO-8859-1) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#458009: ITP: libcomplearn-mod-lzmax -- complearn compression module interfacing to lzma external compressor
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libcomplearn-mod-lzmax Version : 1.0.6 Upstream Author : Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://complearn.org/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: C Description : complearn compression module interfacing to lzma external compressor The LZMA external compressor command lzma can be used effortlessly with the complearn universal compression system by installing this module. lzma provides another kind of Lempel-Ziv compression. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers stable APT policy: (500, 'stable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.8-2-686 Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US (charmap=ISO-8859-1) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#458028: ITP: libcomplearn-mod-ppmd -- prediction by partial matching complearn compression module (ppmd)
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libcomplearn-mod-ppmd Version : 1.0.6 Upstream Author : Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://complearn.org/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: C++ Description : prediction by partial matching complearn compression module (ppmd) PPMD stands for Prediction by Partial Matching. It is a sophisticated data compression technique developed after the block sorting craze. The PPMD compression module for complearn offers the best compression for most situations. The resulting statistical models based on ppmd are often the most high quality in many applications. For randomness testing, bioinformatics, fuzzy matching, and many other types of machine learning, the complearn PPMD compression module is one of the best choices. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers stable APT policy: (500, 'stable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.8-2-686 Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US (charmap=ISO-8859-1) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#458031: ITP: libcomplearn-mod-ppmd -- prediction by partial matching complearn compression module
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libcomplearn-mod-ppmd Version : 1.0.6 Upstream Author : Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://complearn.org/download.html * License : BSD Programming Lang: C++ Description : prediction by partial matching complearn compression module PPMD compression module for CompLearn universal compression and machine learning software. Using this compression module, researchers can take advantage of the most advanced statistical analysis yet available. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers stable APT policy: (500, 'stable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.8-2-686 Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US (charmap=ISO-8859-1) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#458148: ITP: complearn-gui -- interactive 3d data mining tool and demo for universal machine learning
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: complearn-gui Version : 1.0.5 Upstream Author : Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://complearn.org/download.html * License : BSD Programming Lang: C++ Description : interactive 3d data mining tool and demo for universal machine learning This is the easiest way to get started with data compression based machine learning. Try the simplest drag and drop interface to AI today. This package includes the 3D demo tree search interactive explorer clgui. Get started in minutes with this entertaining and educational tool. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers stable APT policy: (500, 'stable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.8-2-686 Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US (charmap=ISO-8859-1) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#458221: ITP: libcomplearn-mod-ppmdx -- external PPMD compression module for CompLearn learning library
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libcomplearn-mod-ppmdx Version : 1.0.6 Upstream Author : Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://complearn.org/download.html * License : BSD Programming Lang: C Description : external PPMD compression module for CompLearn learning library C language interface to connect the ppmd data compressor to CompLearn. By using this system, researchers can take full advantage of the external ppmd data compressor. This module uses fork and exec like all complearn modules ending in x. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers stable APT policy: (500, 'stable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.8-2-686 Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US (charmap=ISO-8859-1) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ITP: flipcoin -- flip an adjustable coin for random exit status
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rudi Cilibrasi * Package name: flipcoin Version : 1.0.0 Upstream Author : Rudi Cilibrasi * URL : https://github.com/rudi-cilibrasi/flipcoin * License : MIT/X Programming Lang: C Description : flip an adjustable coin for random exit status This command-line utility can be used to simulate a coin flip to get a random exit status. The probability of success is adjustable using an optional command line parameter. The package includes a single binary executable and man page and is easily buildable using autoconf and automake. Although I was a Debian Developer ten years ago, I have not had time to do much since having kids. I am hoping somebody else can take this package and sign and upload it. I do not expect to make many revisions because the source code and functionality are quite simple so the maintenance burden should be almost zero in the future. I would appreciate an adoption, co-maintainer, or sponsor as appropriate. For your convenience, an initial lintian-clean Debian source package is publicly available at: https://github.com/rudi-cilibrasi/pkg-flipcoin This package is a useful core utility for shell scripts that need to do things in a way that is decorrelated in time and infrequent. Usage is simple at the shell prompt: if flipcoin ; then echo heads ; else echo tails ; fi
