Re: #284724: Interpretation of NON-BREAK SPACE
On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 13:18 +0100, Frederic Peters wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ python -c 'print "hello world"' > File "", line 1 > print "hello world" > ^ > SyntaxError: invalid syntax Don't you need to tell Python what charset you are using if you don't use ASCII? Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: #284724: Interpretation of NON-BREAK SPACE
On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 13:54 +0100, Frederic Peters wrote: > > Don't you need to tell Python what charset you are using if you don't > > use ASCII? > > This is PEP 263 <http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0263.html>, its > purpose is to declare the encoding of Python source files but it > actually only applies to strings, not to the code itself. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat test.py > # -*- coding: UTF-8 -*- > print 'Hello world' > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ python test.py > File "test.py", line 2 > print 'Hello world' > ^ > SyntaxError: invalid syntax As yes. Quoting from file:///usr/share/doc/python2.3-doc/html/ref/lexical.html: Python uses the 7-bit ASCII character set for program text. New in version 2.3: An encoding declaration can be used to indicate that string literals and comments use an encoding different from ASCII.. So using anything other than ASCII space, tab, and formfeed is incorrect (file:///usr/share/doc/python2.3-doc/html/ref/whitespace.html) Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: documentation types
On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 07:36 -0500, Neil Roeth wrote: > > I about packaging a library that ships an API reference in docbook SGML > and > > provides manual build targets for PDF, PS and HTML. > > > > Is there any preference on which type should be included in the -dev > package? > > I would prefer PDF: > > * one file only > > * easy to print > > * many viewers available > > > > I would rather not build all three as this is a definite waste of disk > space. > > > > Suggestions are welcome... > > Could it be a configure option, so that the first time the package is > installed it would ask which subset of the three to install (defaulting to PDF > only), and later, when upgrading the package, it would install the same > subset with no further interaction? Unless each copy of the documentation is 20M, then I'd say install both HTML and PDF (in a -doc package if they are over say a meg) as anything else is overcomplicated. We're just talking about a few megabytes. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field
On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 02:45 -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > would it provide any automation or easier processing for the NEW > queue(ftpmasters)? I'd assume part of the FTP masters checking is actually verifying the license specified in debian/copyright is the license actually used by the source, and that there are no other licenses. This wouldn't change that. > would it allow for reducing package size by removing > license text from all packages and having them installed in a seperate > essential package stored in a canonical location > (/usr/share/doc/dfsg-license-texts/) (dfsg-license-texts.deb) and have a > file-license.txt to list which files are licensed under which license? We already have this, debian/copyright generally only contains a paragraph or so of common licenses, and then points to the complete license in /usr/share/common-licenses/. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: debian zeroconf group?
On Fri, 2006-02-24 at 18:08 +0100, Simon Richter wrote: > One thing I desperately wish for is for a big flip switch to turn it > off, even if I have KDE or GNOME installed, both on a packaging system > level (for example, by having a package "disable-zeroconf" that helps me > avoid installation) as well as on a enable/disable level, where I could > tell my laptop to not talk to the weirdos hanging out in the airport lounge. If you don't want it at all you can remove avahi-daemon, you will still need the libs but they are not large. If you want a runtime toggle there might already be a DBus method call you can make, otherwise I'm sure it won't be hard (or else just /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon stop). Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Bug#354818: ITP: exmap -- determine how much physical memory and swap is used by individual processes
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ross Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: exmap Version : 0.8 Upstream Author : John Berthels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.berthels.co.uk/exmap/ * License : GPL Description : determine how much physical memory and swap is used by individual processes Exmap is a memory analysis tool which allows you to accurately determine how much physical memory and swap is used by individual processes and shared libraries on a running system. In particular, it accounts for the sharing of memory and swap between different processes. -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: the latest gnome
On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 13:42 +0900, Miles Bader wrote: > Anthony DeRobertis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > GNOME seems to be more and more focusing on the entry-level Linux user, > > and less and less on advanced users. Most unfortunate, its much prettier > > than KDE. > > Indeed. Wasn't there a fork of gnome for this reason recently? Ah yes, GoneMe. That was a blazing success... Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#304266: ITP: sdate -- never ending september date
On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 17:10 +0200, Christoph Berg wrote: > Re: sean finney in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Is there any real-life use for this program? > > > > > > No. > > > > then please don't put it in debian. > > Which of the other games in Debian do serve a purpose? Games serve a purpose: they entertain the user. What is the purpose of sdate? Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Planning a libglade to libglade2 transition
On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 13:55 +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > > libglade2 is the GTK2 version of libglade, so it would have to be a > > GTK->GTK2 transition. > > And how hard is that? It seems that tons of stuff in the archive > still requires GTK1. It would be great to move them all to GTK2. It can be very tricky. The GNOME Team are currently working through a list of all packages using GTK+ 1 which can be dropped from the archive, so we should be able to drop lots of the old libraries. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Question regarding "offensive" material
On Wed, 2005-06-15 at 17:41 +0200, Alexander Schmehl wrote: > - What is a "gegl"? I couldn't find it in any dictionary. Genetically Engineered Goat (extra Leg). Part of GNOME folklore, google will tell you more. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch
On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 22:05 +0100, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: > Well, I haven't tried sound-juicer, but according to the (very brief) > package description, it is a ripper, and not a player. The main aim of > goobox is to play CDs on those systems where no direct link between > the CD drive and the audio hardware exists (like, e.g., on my ibook). When I > searched late 2004 for a good audio program to do this I ended up with > goobox. If indeed sound-juicer *plays* audio CDs nice as well, I'll > try it. It's primary goal is to be a ripper, but it can play CDs too. The interface is designed around playback as a way of previewing what you are about to rip, but it will happily play an entire CD. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: how to execute a data-file's preferred app from the cmd-line?
On Thu, 2006-06-22 at 09:23 +0300, Török Edvin wrote: > On 6/22/06, Sune Vuorela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 2006-06-22, David H. Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > So, my question is: Is there an equivalent cmd for 'start' (e.g. for > > > KDE)? > > > > kfmclient exec foobar.odt > What if I am using gnome? Should I use gnome-open then? > Ah, and how do I determine if I am running gnome or kde? > (look in the output of `ps x'?) Use xdg-open, from the Portland Project. http://portland.freedesktop.org/wiki/ It detects the DE and will use kfmclient/gnome-open/xfce-whatever as relevant. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Congrats to the ftpmasters
On Tue, 2006-07-18 at 16:57 -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > The NEW queue is down to *22* packages, which is totally unheard of. > Only three packages have been waiting longer than a month -- so > Javier's package is no longer in the 'endless wait' state. Agreed, I've uploaded three new packages in the last fortnight, and all of them were in the archive by the next day. Yay ftpmasters! Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Bug#198775: ITP: libgnomecups -- GNOME library for CUPS interaction
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-06-25 Severity: wishlist * Package name: libgnomecups Version : 0.1.4 Upstream Author : Dave Camp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.ximian.com/ * License : LPGL Description : GNOME library for CUPS interaction This library wraps the CUPS API in a GLib fashion, so CUPS code can be cleanly integrated with GLib code. Although called libgnomecups, this library only depends on GLib. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable Architecture: i386 Kernel: Linux hactar 2.4.18-686 #1 Sun Apr 14 11:32:47 EST 2002 i686 Locale: LANG=en_GB, LC_CTYPE=en_GB (ignored: LC_ALL set)
Re: CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge
On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 14:44, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > The last time I tried to use CUPS, I found it to be so user friendly > that I couldn't get it to do anything useful. Very pretty, less > functional; and the documentation was entirely inadequate. > > On the other hand, while lprng was anything but user-friendly, it was > simple and well-documented. Much more important to have something that > works before you go making it user-friendly! As a random reply, I've found CUPS to be easy to admin and maintain. There are actual documented APIs for accessing the print queue and spooler, and printing worked first time, even when printing on an inkjet printer on a Win98 box being shared across SMB. http://www.cups.org/documentation.php lists plenty of documentation, which is generally quite good IMHO. However, I am biased, as I package the GNOME CUPS packages... :) Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge
On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 15:00, Cyrille Chepelov wrote: > if only gnome-cups-manager wasn't leaking memory like a CPU leaks > heat...) Terribly sorry about this. It's only gnome-cups-icon which leaks like mad, so you can kill that and use eggcups instead (looks almost identical). I'll be removing eggcups once the memory leak issue is fixed. Unfortunately the gnome-cups-maintainer has gone on holiday and I don't have time at the moment to learn the details of the CUPS API. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Next time the Gentoo argument starts...
Someone did some rather rough timing of Debian vs Mandrake vs Gentoo: http://articles.linmagau.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=227&page=1 Not the best benchmarking, but at least there are numbers. :) Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: How to install X-Chat in five hours (or more)
On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 15:04, David Z Maze wrote: > I don't think we need to abandon the power of our current > infrastructure, just have ways of making it less visible for people > who don't want it. Just a random off-the-wall idea, but *maybe* there could be a new package tag added which means that a package is something that Joe User is likely to use, i.e. a good word processor/web browser/etc. Then a minimal graphical interface could be built to show just these. Of course, the flames when deciding what packages to tag would be huge... Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Packaging some Redhat admin tools
On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 10:04, Cédric Delfosse wrote: > Hello > > at work, I have played a little bit with a Redhat 9. There are lots of > nice system setup tools that could be useful for Debian users. These > tools are GPL. > The problems are: > - no source tar.gz / tar.bz2 distribution (AFAIK), > - no Redhat anonymous CVS access (AFAIK), > - only SRPM distribution. > > So, I wonder if someone has already built a package from a SRPM package Just use rpm2cpio to extract the source tarballs and any patches. Note that most of the admin tools have some serious deps... I started to port their X configuration tools, which requires RH python-x binding, which requires the Red Hat Python library, which doesn't build on Debian very well. I started but never finished porting this tool, but I should try again when the python2.2->2.3 transition is over. (my debs of these packages are available at www.burtonini.com/debian) Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Packaging some Redhat admin tools
Oh, of course you could always mail the RH maintainer. I packaged eggcups and although the RH site only has SRPMS, the maintainer has a collection of source tarballs on his personal web site. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Accepted kaffe 1:1.1.1-1 (i386 source)
On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 14:18, Mathieu Roy wrote: > > We've gone through this many times already. Upstream changes should > > not be documented in the Debian changelog, even if they fix bugs in > > the Debian BTS. > > Because users that submitted bugs using the Debian BTS do not deserve > the right to get a mail meaningful about the bug they reported? "The bug has been fixed" is everything I would need to know. I don't really care if it was a typo, a new library, a rebuild or some magic incantation with black dribbling candles, the bug has been fixed. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF
Re: Accepted kaffe 1:1.1.1-1 (i386 source)
> > "The bug has been fixed" is everything I would need to know. I don't > > really care if it was a typo, a new library, a rebuild or some magic > > incantation with black dribbling candles, the bug has been fixed. On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 17:46, Mathieu Roy wrote: > This approach surely don't raise the level of Debian. > Maybe *you* do not care of the details about the bug you reported. But > a Debian developer is entitled, normally, to provide information > according to what *users* can expect. On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 16:12, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > I do. If you want to see every change which was made to the source, read the upstream Changelog. If you want to see Debian packaging changes, read the Debian Changelog. It's simple really. :) Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF
Re: Accepted kaffe 1:1.1.1-1 (i386 source)
On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 20:17, Colin Watson wrote: > On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 08:48:13PM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: > > There's at least one other solution: what if, when a bug tagged > > "upstream" was closed, the mail sent would include the upstream > > ChangeLog (hopefully named ChangeLog in the top directory of the > > package)? > > Can someone familiar with the BTS code tell whether this change is > > trivial or not? > > It's not trivial in the slightest, sorry. The BTS doesn't remotely have > this information available to it, and it's not even easy to arrange for > it to be available. I'd also be quite annoyed if I was mailed the upstream changelog when a bug was closed, as these can often get rather large. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Fwd: major problem with gnome-games dependency]
On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 20:32 +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 12:10:22PM -0600, Arthur H. Edwards wrote: > > I work at a government laboratory where computer games are prohibited. I > > also use the gnome desktop. When I try to remove gnome-games apt wanst > > to remove gnome because gnome depends on gnome-games. This is really a > > show-stopper for government use of Linux. Also, I would think that the > > dependency should work the other way: gnome-games should depend on gnome. > > I've always wanted apt to be able to distinguish between a task and a > metapackage; something like “I want GNOME, but without the games and > Evolution, please”... That is what gnome-core is for: just enough of GNOME to be usable, but no real apps beyond EoG and gedit. Purposefully created for people who want to use GNOME, don't want to install all packages manually, but want some control over what extra packages are installed. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF
Re: Evolution Contacts
On Tue, 2005-11-01 at 15:14 -0500, Alejandro Bonilla wrote: > Someone sent an email I dunno if here or in evolution-hackers ML but I also > lost All my contacts after upgrading yesterday in Sid! ;0( Close Evolution and killall evolution-data-server-1.4, then restart Evolution. That *should* work. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New version of kernel-package to create image packages using debconf
On Wed, 2005-11-09 at 21:49 +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > I've been pondering on using kernel-package to generate > debug 'vmlinux' images which are used in tools like > kernel crash dump analysis tools and oprofile[1]. I'm totally for a -dbg kernel package with an unstripped kernel for OProfile, as I use it quite frequently. I wanted to use OProfile and get kernel stacks on Ubuntu Breezy, so ended up recompiling the standard kernel for vmlinux. To be useful I needed to turn on DEBUG_INFO and DEBUG_FRAME_POINTERS, and this gave me a 25M vmlinux. I'd expect DEBUG_INFO could be always on as the symbols would be stripped for the production kernel, but I don't think "normal" kernels should have frame pointers. If this is correct, then maybe the debug kernel should be just another build with the debug options on, and no stripping. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?
On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 18:55 +0100, David Weinehall wrote: > alacarte: > > "Alacarte is an easy-to-use menu editor for GNOME that can add > and edit new entries and menus. It works with the freedesktop.org > menu specification and should work with any desktop environment > that uses the spec." > > Presumably people that want to edit their menus can launch this > application using the launcher. It's not really the average > everyday tool... Isn't this invoked from right clicking on Applications? Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Icons and instructions for the FreeDesktop menu.
On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 00:42 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Supposedly a gnome program will run under KDE. Right? > > How will a KDE user find it, if not through the Debian menu system? GNOME and KDE use the same menu system, so unless a desktop file is marked OnlyShowIn=GNOME, it will appear in the KDE menus. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?
On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 06:34 -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > Are you telling me that these features I keep see getting removed are > *NOT* about usability for me? OK, functionality to me... Functionality > for me determines my usability. It I have to use some archaic command > like (btw I don't really mind them *IF* they are well documented) but > like: If you have any particular pet features that have been removed in GNOME and you can make a valid case for their re-inclusion, then file a bug. Contrary to popular belief GNOME isn't about removing as many features as possible. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: co-mentor for a GSoC proposal wanted: debbugs web submission
On Fri, 2007-03-16 at 12:34 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > The simple fact that anyone having submitted a comment to a bug is > > automatically added to the CC list for later comments is something that > > should be trivial to implement. Instead, we have a bloated and useless > > subscription scheme. > > > How is it stupid. I submit comments to *lots* of bugs where I have *no* > interest in seeing the rest of the traffic for. If I had to unsubscribe > every time I made a comment on a bug, I'd get annoyed. I hate to think > how vorlon would feel. He probably comments on sever dozen unique bugs > a week. It's a check box under the comment field, "Add me to CC list". It's not that hard to uncheck it when you make a comment if you don't care about the bug in the future. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
RFA: doclifter, last-exit, scw, smooth-themes
Hi, I'm going to orphan various packages that are not team maintained and I'm doing a terrible job on. - doclifter - last-exit (probably could be adopted by pkg-gnome) - scw - smooth-themes (this may be able to be removed from the archive entirely) Anyone want these? Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: RFA: doclifter, last-exit, scw, smooth-themes
On Thu, 2007-04-26 at 13:10 +0200, Daniel Leidert wrote: > > - doclifter > > If nobody wants it, I would probably take it as part of the Debian > XML/SGML team. Sounds perfect to me, thanks! Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Policy about debian/compat
On Mon, 2007-07-09 at 16:48 +0200, Bruno Costacurta wrote: > what is the policy about file debian/compat ? > > I was not able to find any policy about it in 'Debian Policy Manual' on > debian.org. It seems it should contain package version mentionned in > field 'Build-depends:' in debian/control for building from source package ? > > Ie. if my package is build with latest version of dpkg-buildpackage (from > package dpkg-dev) I should mention following: > > 'Build-depends: dpkg-dev' in debian/control > ' 1.13.25' in debian/compat > > I'm correct ? No, see "Debhelper compatibility levels" in man debhelper. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: adding desktop files to misc packages
On Sun, 2007-07-15 at 22:57 +0200, Daniel Leidert wrote: > This may be possible. Maybe the Debian menu file format should follow > the freedesktop.org specification too and contain something like: > > NoDisplay=true > X-Debian_only=true > > to show, that the item should only appear in the Debian menu. Then put > these files into e.g. /usr/share/applications/debian and drop the old > menu format in /usr/share/menu. This is just one possible solutions to > the situation (not an recommendation). OnlyShowIn=Debian would be more in spirit with the specification I believe. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: adding desktop files to misc packages
On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 13:33 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > I found (at least one) counter example: I never managed to get rid > of the stupid nautilus behavour to open new windows. In Nautilus enable Edit -> Preferences -> Behaviour -> Always open in browser windows. > I was even not > able to get rid of this nautilus thingy at all because killing it opens > a new one. I just renamed it and killed it to get rid of. If you don't use nautilus, why not remove the package? If you want to keep the package installed but never use it, why not remove it from the session? Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [OT] Gnome usability [Was: adding desktop files to misc packages]
On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 14:10 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > >> I found (at least one) counter example: I never managed to get rid > >> of the stupid nautilus behavour to open new windows. > > > > Edit -> Preferences -> Behaviour -> Always open in navigation windows > > > > If the option name isn't clear enough, feel free to propose an alternate > > wording; there's definitely room for improvement here. > > Well, there is no doubt that there is anywhere in the n-th hierarchy > of option settings menu the option I'm looking for is hidden. It is > just the question whether I'm willing to spend my time to seek for > it and I have to admit - I'm not. This is no particular Gnome feature - > I even prefer Gnome over KDE for the same reason. N-th hierarchy? Seeking? Edit->Preferences isn't exactly buried. I'd say that most applications have the preferences there. The Preferences dialog has four tabs. One of them is called Behaviour. Under that the third button is "Always open in browser windows". I don't call that buried away, or hidden. It's about as visible as it could be without actually being a toggle button in the nautilus toolbar, which would be silly. > > This is intentional, nautilus is a fundamental piece of the desktop. You > > can remove it by editing the session, still. > > Sure there is such an option - but it is just deeply hidden. Preferences -> Session -> Current Session -> Remove is "deeply hidden"? Can you suggest a better location? Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: adding desktop files to misc packages
On Sat, 2007-07-28 at 04:39 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > If you don't use nautilus, why not remove the package? If you want to > > keep the package installed but never use it, why not remove it from > > the session? > > Because other users of the machine might want to? Or is Gnome > only useful on the subset of single user machines? Session-removal is per-user. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Package name for GNOME panel applets
On Fri, 2004-10-08 at 12:09 +0900, Seo Sanghyeon wrote: > This was discussed before: > http://lists.debian.org/debian-gtk-gnome/2003/07/msg00176.html Mailing to d-g-g, CCing d-d. My comments below. > And see also Debian GNOME Packaging Policy: > http://www.burtonini.com/computing/gnome-policy-20030502-1.html > > Quote: "Panel Applets. TODO: Panel applets -- "gnome-applet-foo" > or "foo-applet" or "gnome-foo-applet?" > > I ran apt-rdepends on libpanel-applet2-0 and weeded out full > applications which happened to provide applets. The result follows: > > "foo" style: > apt-watch > bubblemon > flink > glunarclock > gxmms > netapplet > netspeed > teatime > > "foo-applet" style > gtodo-applet > imhangul-status-applet > lock-keys-applet > mboxcheck-applet > netmon-applet > quick-lounge-applet > rhythmbox-applet > seti-applet > xpenguins-applet > > "gnome-foo-applet" style: > gnome-cpufreq-applet > gnome-netstatus-applet > gnome-randr-applet > gnome-swallow-applet > > "foo-gnome" style: > verbiste-gnome > oooqstart-gnome > > "gnome-foo" style: > gnome-blog > gnome-pilot > > "foo-applet-gnome" style: > uim-applet-gnome > > Which is, not consistent. I don't like "netspeed" package name, which is > too generic, while its upstream name is "netspeed_applet". See > http://mfcn.ilo.de/netspeed_applet/ . Personally, I prefer gnome-foo-applet. In the cases where the applet name contains "gnome" or "applet" it can be re-arranged. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: existing debian themes
On Fri, 2002-08-30 at 16:16, Erich Schubert wrote: > And sunshineinabag.co.uk already has a Debian GDM2 login screen > http://sunshineinabag.co.uk/ > which (when one replace the ridiculous apples ;) could be a nice default > for gdm2 (when it gets packaged, i can't await it ;) > > The "Debian color" should be used for HighLight only, that is for the > active window bar, marked text and hover effects maybe. IMHO. It does look good, apart from the apples.. :) However, a quick look at the file reveals that the debian logo is actually a large jpeg. If someone could find a vector source of the Debian logo (I'm sure there is one somewhere) which could be converted into a SVG (2 seconds work with Illustrator), GDM2 could display that instead. Instant eye candy and people with large monitors love you, for the clear edges and lack of JPEG artifacts. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Bug#188732: ITP: gtk2-engines-smooth -- Highly configurable GTK+ 2 theme
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-04-12 Severity: wishlist * Package name: gtk2-engines-smooth Version : 0.5 Upstream Author : Andrew Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/smooth-engine * License : GPL Description : Highly configurable GTK+ 2 theme Smooth GTK1/GTK2 Theme Engine is a simple theme engine intended to be smooth, fast, and highly configurable, such that it could eventually mimic most, if not all, major theme engines to high degree of acuracy, while still retaining a small footprint. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable Architecture: i386 Kernel: Linux eddie 2.4.20-1-k7 #1 Sat Mar 22 15:17:52 EST 2003 i686 Locale: LANG=en_GB, LC_CTYPE=en_GB (ignored: LC_ALL set)
Re: Gnome2, libgtk2 & gtk2 apps like gaim / mozilla
On Wed, 2003-05-14 at 12:22, Sander Smeenk wrote: > Hi, > > Since I while I am forced to shut down my Linux workstation when I leave > my workplace. And since then I noticed that every time I boot again, and > start my X, and open my apps like Gaim and Mozilla, the font used is > HUGE (Helvetica, 12px, or something), while I have set the font to be > Verdana, 9px using gnome-control-center's font-setting dialog. [snip] If you don't want to start GNOME via gnome-session (you can remove the panel from the session if you wish) you must run "gnome-settings-daemon" in your startup to populate the XSETTINGS database. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Gnome2, libgtk2 & gtk2 apps like gaim / mozilla
On Wed, 2003-05-14 at 12:52, Sander Smeenk wrote: > > If you don't want to start GNOME via gnome-session (you can remove the > > panel from the session if you wish) you must run "gnome-settings-daemon" > > in your startup to populate the XSETTINGS database. > > Ok, that sounds logic. Is this documented somewhere? I mean, there must > be more users who are likely to run into this problem? Not sure, probably somewhere. It might be in the GNOME Admin Guide. Most people who use just GTK+ apps won't use the GNOME stuff to set the prefs, but edit the traditional ~/.gtkrc-2.0 file by hand. You are weird by using the GNOME control center to configure GTK, but not running it (gnome-settings-daemon) at startup via gnome-session. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
