Re: Work-needing packages report for Apr 11, 2003
On Fri, 2003-04-11 at 13:57, Lars Bahner wrote: > I am not currently using anything on the wnpp-list, but it > seems to me that not all these packages are better off gotten > rid off. > > Does anyone know something about the importance of these > packages? Has/can someone run this against the popularity-contest? Speaking for myself, I can say that I still have playmidi installed, albeit version 2.3 instead of 2.4 (2.4 drums sound ugly on my wavetable for some reason I can't fathom; not a Debian problem per se, it's in upstream too). AFAIK, nobody uses playmidi anymore. Most sound cards these days don't even *come* with wavetable synthesis, and software synthesis (ie timidity) sounds so much better than FM synthesis. The only reason I have playmidi installed is that I have a very nice wavetable synthesis daughter board, and playmidi is the only thing I've found that can use it. I'm no "professional MIDI musician", but I suspect that most who are use something other than playmidi. I wouldn't miss it, and I don't think most others will either. As for some of the others, I was thinking about picking up gtick, but I'm not a Debian developer, and it is rumored to be abandoned upstream. I didn't even know about freebirth until someone mentioned that it could probably replace gtick, but it looks like freebirth is orphaned too! There are a couple of others in there that make me wonder: if they go what are some (good) alternatives? For instance, what are some good replacements for magicfilter? Or linuxconf? > My point is that I could prolly adopt a package or two, but have > no knowledge or particular interest in what is being offered. > > On the other hand we should probably take care of the packages > we have before we take on new ones, I suppose. > > I would suspect packages like: > exim-tls > udhcpd > defoma(!) > mserver > scanmail > mnogosearch > cadaver > phpgroupware > pppoeconf > pptp-linux > > to be of some importance. I feel obliged to take responsibility for > at least one of them, but - as I said - I use none of them (except > for defoma of course). > > So, do we have some way of separating that which we really want > to get rid off from that which unfortuneately has been orphaned? > > More over I wish to revive the inflammable discussion as to > whether or not it would be a good idea to have a section in > the archives for unmaintained, much like non-US or non-free. > > I really think it is the best thing for our users if they > can see up front that the package that they are about to install > is not necessarily likely to be bugfixed in the foreseeable > future. Furthermore if they don't have the skills to fix things > themselves, then they just cut of that apt-source. > > Lars. > > > On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 12:32:33AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Report about packages that need work for Apr 11, 2003 > > > > Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 63 > > Number of packages offered up for adoption this week: 3 > > Total number of orphaned packages: 196 > > Number of packages orphaned this week: 26 > > > -- > Lars Bahner: http://lars.bahner.com/; Voice: +4792884492; Fax: +4792974492 > > > Key fingerprint = A913 7B54 E5FC 804D C12B 18DE 493D 83DE 5DE6 C5D6 > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The more I use other operating systems, the more I like Debian GNU/Linux http://www.debian.org http://www.gnu.org http://www.linux.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Work-needing packages report for Apr 11, 2003
(Sorry for taking so long to get back) On Fri, 2003-04-11 at 19:18, Cameron Patrick wrote: > Er, the SBLive and its Creative brethren do, don't they? At least, I'm > presuming that's what "sound fonts" are for. Has it been removed in > later versions of the card? If it's there, I can't find it on my current one (which I bought about a month ago). Anyway, most[1] motherboards these days seem to come with an onboard DSP, but no MIDI. Most people don't bother to buy a "real" sound card when they've already got one built in, as long as it works with Linux. Me, I bought my SBLive cause the one on my motherboard didn't want to work with Linux. [1] - Yes, I know I really should say "most x86 motherboards", but I stopped to think, and most of the other architectures I've ever played with (PowerPC, Alpha, Sparc) had built in sound too, and no MIDI . . . -- The more I use other operating systems, the more I like Debian GNU/Linux http://www.debian.org http://www.gnu.org http://www.linux.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Work-needing packages report for Apr 11, 2003
(Sorry for taking so long to get back) On Sat, 2003-04-12 at 08:28, Darren Salt wrote: > Hmm. They're conffiles (not sure why, given that they're all binaries); have > you tried 2.4 with the 2.3 drums files? I believe I tried that, but I can't recall. As it stands now, I just keep the source to 2.3 around for safekeeping. > I use it from time to time, and I think that it should be left in the archive > until most people are using 2.6-series kernels (and, thus, ALSA). Ah, I've been lax; I haven't even moved to ALSA yet. Does it do good MIDI? > I have an SBLive; it has an on-board synth, which sounds almost as good as > timidity (and has the advantage of using next to no CPU power). Odd, my current SBLive (bought about a month ago) doesn't seem to have on board synth. Even so, if it only sounds "almost as good as" timidity, that's pretty piss poor. > OTOH, the only synth support for emu10k1 is in ALSA, although there's OSS > support for the MIDI port on these cards (but I don't have anything to plug > in there). That would explain why I can't use synth on mine. > Hmm... another reason to keep it, then. Like I've said, I've got the source, I'm not too concerned, but I don't have the time to maintain a package for it. > A text editor :-) Yeah, I like vim, but sometimes I just like to have a reassurance that I haven't missed anything. -- The more I use other operating systems, the more I like Debian GNU/Linux http://www.debian.org http://www.gnu.org http://www.linux.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
RE: Non-debian running DD's (Was: Re: stop abusing debconf alread y)
On Fri, 2003-04-25 at 21:12, Milanuk, Monte wrote: > Gag. Mail might actually be useful if Apple had had the brains to include > simple stuff like *threading* of messages. All the fluff in the world, and > the message sorting of pine. Go figure. When I got my first Mac (eMac > running 10.1.5 w/ the Jaguar disks in the box) I'd been reading all these > wonderful reviews of the various mail clients for OS X, and the authors > especially gushed about Mail.app. When I finally figured out it plain > didn't support message threading, and found out that a lot of other people > had the same gripe, I wondered, 'what in the blue blazes do these writers > actually use email for?' I guess 'normal' people don't subscribe to > mailing-lists, where threading is *essential*. As a long time Mac admin/programmer, one of the things I've noticed about a lot of Mac users is that they will gush over anything Apple does or makes. If Apple made Windows, they would love it. -- The more I use other operating systems, the more I like Debian GNU/Linux http://www.debian.org http://www.gnu.org http://www.linux.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
