HighPoint- GPL Licensed Controller wants To be Include In Debian Distribution

2008-01-28 Thread May Hwang
Dear Debian Developer,

 

This is May Hwang, Product Manager from HighPoint Technologies.  HighPoint
have launched a new series of H/W RAID controllers based on Intel 2nd
generation PCI-express I/O processor, one main advantage is we are the only
manufacturer integrate this Intel Fastest SATA I/O processor on HighPoint 4
and 8 ports controllers compares to others RAID controllers use 1st
generation PCI-express of I/O Processor.

 

These Hardware RAID controllers offer GPL licensed Linux Open Source driver
and have been accepted into 2.6.25 main kernel tree but since this is not a
stable kernel version yet so our Debian system integrators still have to go
through driver compilation in every installation process. Therefore, our
Debian customers request HighPoint must work with Debian developer to
include our linux drivers into the latest Debian Distribution. HighPoint is
always looking ways to provide friendly use experience for customers so we
will assign a dedicated firmware interface to work with Debian developer on
this project. 

   

We are looking forward to provide better support for Debian customers, let
us know how to move forward?

 

 

Best Regards,

 

May Hwang

 

HighPoint Technologies,Inc.

 

Tel:408-240-6118

Fax-408-942-5800

 

 <http://www.highpoint-tech.com> www.highpoint-tech.com

 <http://www.hptmac.com> www.hptmac.com

 

Distribution Partners: ASI, BellMicro, D&H, Malabs

"RocketRAID - Terabyte Storage Technologies"

 



RE: HighPoint- GPL Licensed Controller wants To be Include In Debian Distribution

2008-01-28 Thread May Hwang
Dear Margarita,

Can you resend Sean's email because I didn't receive his email?

Up to this point, we are offering binary package based on customer request,
because binary driver package only support one specific kernel version.
Hence it is inconvenience for customer and time consuming.

Please advice when is the next release update and which kernel version?

Can I send you and Sean our Linux open source driver?


Best Regards,
 
May Hwang
 
HighPoint Technologies,Inc.
 
Tel:408-240-6118/6112
Fax-408-942-5800


-Original Message-
From: Margarita Manterola [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 11:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: HighPoint- GPL Licensed Controller wants To be Include In
Debian Distribution

Hi May Hwang!

On Jan 28, 2008 2:59 PM, May Hwang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> These Hardware RAID controllers offer GPL licensed Linux Open Source
driver
> and have been accepted into 2.6.25 main kernel tree but since this is not
a
> stable kernel version yet so our Debian system integrators still have to
go
> through driver compilation in every installation process. Therefore, our
> Debian customers request HighPoint must work with Debian developer to
> include our linux drivers into the latest Debian Distribution. HighPoint
is
> always looking ways to provide friendly use experience for customers so we
> will assign a dedicated firmware interface to work with Debian developer
on
> this project.

As Sean said, it's great that you are making this effort to provide a
better experience for your users.

Regarding Debian's latest distribution, once a distribution gets into
a "stable" form, it gets "frozen"; this means that Debian won't add
extra packages to it.  However, once you make the package, following
the guidelines that Sean gave you, you can provide that package to
your customers, for them to download.

The amount of effort for downloading a module from a different site
than the official Debian site, is almost nothing compared to the
effort of compiling and installing the module by hand, I think your
customers would be perfectly satisfied if you provide the package at
your site, until the next release (by then it will already be included
in the kernel).

-- 
Besos,
Marga


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RE: HighPoint- GPL Licensed Controller wants To be Include InDebian Distribution

2008-01-28 Thread May Hwang
Dear Margarita,

Thanks, please help include our driver in etch-n-half.

Please find Latest HighPoint Source files in 2.6.24 are located at:
drivers\scsi\hptiop.c
drivers\scsi\hptiop.h
Documentation\scsi\hptiop.txt

2.6.24-rc8-mm1 built-in it, you can get it from www.kernel.org.

FYI, HighPoint do have validation program with most of main vendors in the
market- Seagate, Western Digital, Hitachi, Supermicro, Tyan, Asus,
clustersoftware vendor, Storage software vendors, AIC, CI-design and etc. 

In regards of source package guideline, I will check with my firmware group
if they have any questions.

Thanks for the quick response!

Best Regards,
 
May Hwang
 
HighPoint Technologies,Inc.
 
Tel:408-240-6118/6112
Fax-408-942-5800
 
www.highpoint-tech.com
www.hptmac.com
 
Distribution Partners: ASI, BellMicro, D&H, Malabs
"RocketRAID - Terabyte Storage Technologies"


-Original Message-
From: Wouter Verhelst [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 12:56 PM
To: May Hwang
Cc: 'Margarita Manterola'; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: HighPoint- GPL Licensed Controller wants To be Include InDebian
Distribution

On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 11:24:55AM -0800, May Hwang wrote:
> Dear Margarita,
> 
> Can you resend Sean's email because I didn't receive his email?
> 
> Up to this point, we are offering binary package based on customer
request,
> because binary driver package only support one specific kernel version.
> Hence it is inconvenience for customer and time consuming.
> 
> Please advice when is the next release update and which kernel version?

There is an "etch-n-half" planned pretty soon, which is to include a new
kernel with new drivers (at present, it is likely that this new kernel
will be 2.6.24). It would appear to me (though my opinion is in no way
authoritative in this matter) that a package with new HighPoint drivers
would be suitable for inclusion in etch-n-half, too. I'm sure people on
debian-kernel will be able to provide more insight into that matter.

Having said that: while a package with drivers for a hard drive
controller would easily allow a Debian user to *use* the system with
those drivers, it would not provide them with a way to actually
*install* the system yet. If your hardware cannot be used in a
"compatible" way, wherein the hardware will work, even if not at the
highest performance which it would support with those drivers, then this
is a problem that would need to be addressed by providing an updated
debian-installer image.

Luckily, this is not very hard; once you have a modules package with
your drivers, what you would need to do would include:
- creating a "udeb" (a debian-installer module) containing your
  additional drivers (this can be easily done with the "kernel-wedge"
  package and your modules package)
- building a custom debian-installer image which would include your
  udeb.

Your customers could then download the debian-installer image from your
website (or wherever), boot from that, and then install Debian as usual.
You might also want to modify your installer image so that it would, if
your hardware is detected, install the modules package; the
debian-installer environment contains sufficient software to make this
possible.

> Can I send you and Sean our Linux open source driver?

It's probably best if you put them online somewhere, and post a link.
Then those who are interested could, at the very least, help you get
started, or do the work.

Thanks again for your support of Debian,

-- 
 Home is where you have to wash the dishes.
  -- #debian-devel, Freenode, 2004-09-22


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RE: HighPoint- GPL Licensed Controller wants To be IncludeInDebian Distribution

2008-02-01 Thread May Hwang
Dear Maks,

Thanks for the update. So this etch-n-half is the next Debian release, which
already have HighPoint driver included? When etch-n-half will official hit
the market?  

Best Regards,
 
May Hwang
 
HighPoint Technologies,Inc.
 
Tel:408-240-6118/6112
Fax-408-942-5800
 


-Original Message-
From: maximilian attems [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 7:04 AM
To: May Hwang
Cc: 'Wouter Verhelst'; 'Margarita Manterola';
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: HighPoint- GPL Licensed Controller wants To be IncludeInDebian
Distribution

Dear May,

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, May Hwang wrote:

> Dear Margarita,
> 
> Thanks, please help include our driver in etch-n-half.
> 
> Please find Latest HighPoint Source files in 2.6.24 are located at:
> drivers\scsi\hptiop.c
> drivers\scsi\hptiop.h
> Documentation\scsi\hptiop.txt
> 
> 2.6.24-rc8-mm1 built-in it, you can get it from www.kernel.org.

as linus already merged the driver update.
just commited the patch from latest git into our tree for the
2.6.24 etch+half update kernel:
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/kernel-svn-changes/2008-February/00
9187.html

> FYI, HighPoint do have validation program with most of main vendors in the
> market- Seagate, Western Digital, Hitachi, Supermicro, Tyan, Asus,
> clustersoftware vendor, Storage software vendors, AIC, CI-design and etc. 
> 
> In regards of source package guideline, I will check with my firmware
group
> if they have any questions.
> 
> Thanks for the quick response!

thanks for bringing the issue to our attention.
 
> Best Regards,
>  
> May Hwang
>  
> HighPoint Technologies,Inc.
>  
> Tel:408-240-6118/6112
> Fax-408-942-5800
>  
> www.highpoint-tech.com
> www.hptmac.com
>  
> Distribution Partners: ASI, BellMicro, D&H, Malabs
> "RocketRAID - Terabyte Storage Technologies"

for more information about the debian kernel see
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernel
(commit list, team, general docs, ..)

it would be cool if you would test tomorrows sid snapshot builds?
see aboves for the apt lines.


best regards

-- 
maks


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RE: HighPoint- GPL Licensed Controller wants To be IncludeInDebian Distribution

2008-02-01 Thread May Hwang
Dear Maks,

Thanks! Is this the first time you head about HighPoint? We used to only
offer Cost effective RAID controller or if refer to Linux community these
are the Fake RAID category. 

My SI customer suggest we should educate Linux distributions or ask advice
from Linux distribution developer where can we update our hardware RAID
product information, it kind of letting Linux community knows HighPoint
products now its GPL licensed and it is hardware RAID controller.

Any ideas?


Best Regards,
 
May Hwang
 
HighPoint Technologies,Inc.
 
Tel:408-240-6118/6112
Fax-408-942-5800
 
www.highpoint-tech.com
www.hptmac.com
 
Distribution Partners: ASI, BellMicro, D&H, Malabs
"RocketRAID - Terabyte Storage Technologies"


-Original Message-
From: 'maximilian attems' [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 8:17 AM
To: May Hwang
Cc: 'Wouter Verhelst'; 'Margarita Manterola';
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: HighPoint- GPL Licensed Controller wants To be IncludeInDebian
Distribution

Hello May!

On Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 07:38:03AM -0800, May Hwang wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the update. So this etch-n-half is the next Debian release,
which
> already have HighPoint driver included? When etch-n-half will official hit
> the market?  

etch-n-half is the planed Linux kernel upgrade for the Etch Debian
distribution, roughly after 1/2 of it's lifetime, for more info on it
see http://wiki.debian.org/EtchAndAHalf

there is no hard date out yet, but you get an educated guess from
http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2008/01/msg00217.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2008/01/msg00697.html
(due to beta1 debian-installer and etch+half coupling)
 
> Best Regards,
>  
> May Hwang

happy weekend.


-- 
maks


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RE: HighPoint- GPL Licensed Controller wants To be IncludeInDebian Distribution

2008-02-01 Thread May Hwang
Dear Mak,

I have communicated your suggestion to corresponding departments, we will
update our FAQ and check out dell idea storm cite as well.

Thanks for being so helpful for HighPoint, appreciated everyone's valuable
advice.

Best Regards,
 
May Hwang
 
HighPoint Technologies,Inc.
 
Tel:408-240-6118/6112
Fax-408-942-5800
 
www.highpoint-tech.com
www.hptmac.com
 
Distribution Partners: ASI, BellMicro, D&H, Malabs
"RocketRAID - Terabyte Storage Technologies"


-Original Message-
From: 'maximilian attems' [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 8:48 AM
To: May Hwang
Cc: 'Wouter Verhelst'; 'Margarita Manterola';
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: HighPoint- GPL Licensed Controller wants To be IncludeInDebian
Distribution

hello May,

On Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 08:31:29AM -0800, May Hwang wrote:
> 
> Thanks! Is this the first time you head about HighPoint? We used to only
> offer Cost effective RAID controller or if refer to Linux community these
> are the Fake RAID category. 

not the first time,
i had followed the hptiop submission upstream for the 2.6.18 time
frame, but yes i haven't encountered the hardware directly.
 
> My SI customer suggest we should educate Linux distributions or ask advice
> from Linux distribution developer where can we update our hardware RAID
> product information, it kind of letting Linux community knows HighPoint
> products now its GPL licensed and it is hardware RAID controller.
> 
> Any ideas?

you seem to have already generated quite some good press on the most
important German tech press.

dell has a community centre where customers can generated input,
try to consider such. the dell idea storm cite generated quite
some participation also people where very happy that they got
listened to so new laptop models coming out with Linux.

otherwise a tech show off of the capabilities of your product
in terms of performance benchmarks, power efficiency (powertop)

your worst defficiency currently seems that a quick top ten
google of "highpoint gpl" doesn't direct me anywhere near to
a cool site of yours. also "highpoint linux" lands on a faq
as top one that is quite terse.

hope that helps.
 
> Best Regards,
>  
> May Hwang

good success + warm greetings of cold vienna

-- 
maks


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