Re: FYI

1995-09-28 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Thu, 28 Sep 1995, Ian Murdock wrote:

> FYI, I'm planning on releasing new versions of the xbase and pppd
> packages tomorrow.
> 
Do you have the newest releases of the PPPD code from Al Longyear? If you 
don't I have it around here somewhere :)



PLEASE!!!!

1995-09-28 Thread Matthew Bailey
All of the users out there retrieving the distribution that are getting 
it via a tar file from my PERSONAL MACHINE!!! FTP.DEBIAN.ORG!!! PLEASE 
PLEASE PLEASE don't get it with a .gz extension due to the fact only a 
handful of files are not gziped and they total less that a meg!

Please be considerate to me and my machine Thanks

Matthew S. Bailey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Very weird stuff on ftp.debian.org

1995-09-29 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Fri, 29 Sep 1995, Ian Jackson wrote:
> 
> I suppose that taking the machine down to fix the underlying fs is
> probably not advisable.
> 
Already been done.

> Also, the /debian.org directory (rather than the mountpoint) ought not
> to be world-writeable, really ...
Well we were tring to figure it out.

> 
> PS: re the tarring and/or gzipping of the whole archive: can you not
> disable .tar.gz without disabling plain .tar (the latter is quite an
> efficient way to do things if you really want the whole archive) ?
> 
yes .tar is nice it is the .tar.gz thats killing me. After the note last 
night the problem has stopped.

Thanks
Matthew S. Bailey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



a new UNIX utility (fwd)

1995-10-03 Thread Matthew Bailey
PSHIFT(1) USER COMMANDS   PSHIFT(1)

NAME
pshift - paradigm shift utility

SYNOPSIS
pshift [-zzeitgeist] [-rragelev] [-v] [-c] [-wn] [+|-n]

DESCRIPTION
The pshift operator performs a paradigm shift on its input stream
within the context of the current or specified zeitgeist.

OPTIONS
-z  Specify the zeitgeist context.  May be specified here or from
the environment variable $ZEITGEIST.

Supported values of zeitgeist are judeo_christian (default),
postcommunist, new_age, and when_god_was_a_woman.

-r  Specify rage level. Acceptable values of ragelev are
ennui (default), deep_seated, and consuming.

-v  Set to verbose mode.  Normally pshift operates silently; in
verbose mode it publishes a 500+ page bestseller entitled
"Rethinking [input stream] in the [zeitgeist] Age", and then
begins soliciting honoraria until the operator types ctrl-c.
On some systems it runs for Congress.

-c  Set to collective IO.  Normally pshift takes its input from
stdin and outputs to stdout;  in collective mode it takes its
input from the Collective Unconscious and writes to the Body
Politic.

-wn Specify first, second, third or fourth wave.  Acceptable
values for n are 0,1,2 or 3, with 2 (third wave) being the
default.

[On Sun systems, the logical waves are 0,3,2,1, which map to
physical waves 0,1,2,3; see Sun Technical Manual for details.]

+|-nSpecifies the number of times to prepend 'post' to the
zeitgeist context, if positive, or 'pre' if negative.
The default is 11.

EXAMPLES

source $DEITY | pshift -zpostcommunist -rdeep_seated -v +1

On most systems, the above command will output a hardcover volume
called "Rethinking God in the Post-Postcommunist Era", in which the
irrelevence of erstwhile religious concepts is seen to have
triggered a global, deep-seated rage vis-a-vis traditional
sociopolitical norms leading to a premature breakdown of emerging
postsoviet infrastructure.

pshift -znew_age -rennui

The above command produces no output, but privately processes a
vague discontent which it will share if its space is honored.  May
be redirected to /dev/null.

pshift -c -w3 -1

Taking its input from the collective unconscious, the above command
rejects the failed socioeconomic policies of the last thirty years
and replaces them with a futurist, fourth wave polemic of
traditional values, the two-parent family, and the supremacy of the
private sector that was the foundation of the American utopia of
the 1950s.  Use a prepend value of -2 to restore the American utopia
of the early Industrial Age, a value of -3 to restore the European
utopia of the Enlightenment, -4 for catholic hegemony, etc.
(note:  Requires grass root permission.  In verbose mode, it may
also require a $4 million advance.)

SEE ALSO
backlash(1)

BUGS
You must have root permission to use consuming rage.

AUTHOR
Robert Drucker ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
copyright 1995 Robert Drucker.
Robert Drucker is a trademark of Robert Drucker.


--- End of Forwarded Message



Re: why all the .notar files on ftp.debian.org???

1995-10-04 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Tue, 3 Oct 1995, Michael E. Deisher wrote:

> Does anyone know why "get dirname.tar" has been disabled on the ftp
> site.  I noticed that are .notar files in most directories.  Does this
> mean that "get dirname.tar" is disabled from those directories?  I
> asked Matt Bailey about this but he didn't know why this was
> happening.  Is anyone else having this trouble?  Since I'm
> using pmirror, tar is the only way I can mirror the ms-dos tree.
> 
> Should I report this as a bug?
> 
> --Mike
> 
They have been deleted.



Re: Mirror sites still having problems

1995-10-21 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Sat, 21 Oct 1995, Ian Jackson wrote:

> Several mirror sites are *still* in a mess, even after repeated
> emails.
> 
> At this point I think we can do one of two things:
> 
>  1. Keep prodding them, phoning them up, &c &c &c &c - any
> volunteers ?  (If it comes to this I'll deal with
> src.doc.ic.ac.uk.)
src.doc.ic.ac.uk has been mirroring the current distribution for several 
days now.


>  2. Move the whole of ftp.debian.org:/debian to /debian.real, and
> replace with an empty /debian containing only `README.vanished'.
> Leave for 3 days.  Put it back.

Only if we forwarn the current mirror sites to shut off their mirror alot 
of them have been working hard to get this especially the NON-US sites.

Matthew S. Bailey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Debian Incoming

1995-10-21 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Sat, 21 Oct 1995, Martin Schulze wrote:

> upload ~ftp /debian/private/project/Incoming yes ftpadmin ftp 0600 dirs
> 
Ahhh but not so easy :)

Remember this doesn't use conventional ftpaccess files on this site. :)

I will fix the problem though with something more like.

upload imurdock.debian 0600 /debian.org/ftp/ 
/debian/private/project/Incoming  

Matt :)



Re: announcement

1995-10-27 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Thu, 26 Oct 1995, Ian Murdock wrote:

> Should I add anything (for example, about the mirror problems) to the
> announcement?  Here is what I have thus far.  I want to send it in a
> few hours, so please speak now or forever (or until the next release,
> whichever comes first) hold your peace.
> 
> 

I would run through the mirrors you have and check it a little bit. 
Someone plesae mail me a copy of the current ftp.sites or whatever it is 
called, so that I can update it with my archives of mirror sites.. I will 
then modify the failure announcement :) when there are too many ftp's 
with the output of that file. I will also give the status of the ftp 
sites wether they have a full mirror or a part mirror up down or whatever...

>From this day forward until the slump between next releases :) any mirror 
_caught_ running in "user space" a.k.a. Anonymous are the mercy of a 
kill -9 PID.

If you are still mirroring using anonymous please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I will contact you from there.

Infact add,to the announcement, that if they want to become a public 
mirror to mail

[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will then add this to all 
needed files. (machine readable/human readable) Maybe for use with a ftp 
method so it knows where to go so the user can select a local site..



Anyway other than that I would go for it...

Matt



Re: Debian GNU/Linux 0.93 Release 6 now available

1995-10-27 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Thu, 26 Oct 1995, Ian Murdock wrote:

Eeekk. earlier than I thought...

before you go posting it please get a list of the current VALID mirror 
sites. Get it so that I don't get pounded on. :) Anyway please write up 
another announcement to cover the mirror sites I think they should be there..

Matt

:)

Also, Is there any need for ftp/www stats to be made available I have 
everything since I rebuilt the ftp server the last time...

Anyone interested in these?



Distribution

1995-10-28 Thread Matthew Bailey

It is in our opinions here at the university that the current materials 
should be placed in a subdirectory like

RELEASED/Debian-0.93R6
RELEASED/security-fixes
RELEASED/updates
RELEASED/contrib
RELEASED/Incoming (to Be used by anonymous users for uploads to contrib)
CURRENT/Debian
CURRENT/private/project/Incoming (Devel uploads)
CURRENT/contrib
CURRENT/Incoming  (To be used by anonymous users for uploads to contrib)
SNAPSHOTS/debian-pre-1.0 (a full tree to be proposed as a releasable system)
Documentation/
CURRENT/
RELEASED/
GENERAL/
AOUT -> RELEASED
ELF -> CURRENT

If we are to be making these moves I would like to forwarn the current 
mirrors so that they could update their filesystems.

But I would really suggest something like this so that we can organize 
the archive a little better. 

Don't let drive space be a factor here. If a mirror site only wants to 
get -RELEASED thats fine if they have drive space to handle it all they
will take it all. Make a suggestion to mirrors to get say -RELEASED and 
-Documentation.

These are the opinions of more than one person here at Central and they 
are the ones that pay for and support the machines :)

I woulld really like to hear a bit more on this matter since we seem to 
back lacking a bit about stating what is a "released" version and what is 
BETA.

Kinda sounds like Win95 all over again :)

Matthew S. Bailey
David B. Brinks



Re: package uploading probs

1995-10-29 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Sun, 29 Oct 1995, Siggy Brentrup wrote:

> directory across some sites with good connectivity and use rdist(1) to keep 
> them
> in sync? Major mirror sites might be good canditates for this.
> 
I would probably suggest just mirror as a program to keep them up to date.
If there is a SINGLE site then this would not be a problem.
I would mirror them into a directory called 
private/project/incoming-europe I have talked about this before but I 
beleive that no one was able to come up with a site.

Let me know the URL and I will begin an hourly mirror of it, asuming that 
is OK with the rest of Devel.
Matt



Re: package uploading probs

1995-10-29 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Sun, 29 Oct 1995, Siggy Brentrup wrote:

> I hate to follow-up to my own message, but it's only after it was out that I 
> got
> this one in linux-announce:
> 
Heh. Siggy I have both rdist and ssh already running on this ftp server. 
NOTE: this server doesn't run linux do to hardware contraints it runs 
FreeBSD.

The problem with using rdist and ssh is that "ssh" has a restrictive 
copyright a I prefer not to use it for that reason.

besides I don't like rdist :) (anyone have a Win95 copy I could reall use it)
:) 

Matt



Re: package uploading probs

1995-10-30 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Mon, 30 Oct 1995, Ian Jackson wrote:

> 
> chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk:/debian/private/Incoming
> 
> Matt, can you mirror this somewhere ?
/private/project/incoming-uk

And should there be a doom subdirectory there?

Just curious... 

Matt



Forwarded mail....

1995-11-01 Thread Matthew Bailey

A day in the life of the FTP server

2.6 gigabytes today...

Also if you can not tell from these logs/averages. I have added 
win3/win95/winnt mirrors of simtel to the list of offerings. :) 

Instead of running painful virtual ftp servers I have opted for a more 
generic way of doing things. I therefore have merged everything into one 
archive.

--Matt

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 00:00:16 -0500
From: Charlie Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

TOTALS FOR SUMMARY PERIOD Tue Oct 31 1995 TO Wed Nov  1 1995

Files Transmitted During Summary Period 10746
Bytes Transmitted During Summary Period2693654107
Systems Using Archives  0

Average Files Transmitted Daily  5373
Average Bytes Transmitted Daily1346827054

Daily Transmission Statistics

 Number OfNumber ofAveragePercent Of  Percent Of
 DateFiles Sent  Bytes  Sent  Xmit  Rate  Files Sent  Bytes Sent
---  --  ---  --  --  --
Tue Oct 31 1995   10744   26924056324.6 KB/s 99.98   99.95
Wed Nov  1 1995   2  1248475   21.5 KB/s  0.020.05

Total Transfers from each Archive Section (By bytes)

  Percent  Of 
 Archive Section  Files Sent Bytes Sent  Files Sent Bytes Sent
- -- --- -- --
/debian/debian-0.93/binar   4358  132898467740.55  49.34
/debian  315   327619271 2.93  12.16
/debian/debian-0.93/sourc   1775   32593395516.52  12.10
/debian/debian-0.93/disks160   162247177 1.49   6.02
/pub/ftp.freebsd.org/2.0.376   138621980 3.50   5.15
/pub/ftp.freebsd.org/2.1.373   102539231 3.47   3.81
/debian/debian-0.93  11084991819 1.02   3.16
/debian/project/experimen 8233616424 0.76   1.25
/debian/private/project  11829488149 1.10   1.09
/debian/non-free/source   9424310716 0.87   0.90
/debian/non-free/binary  14924259829 1.39   0.90
/pub/ftp.netscape.com/2.0 3120385171 0.29   0.76
/debian/debian-bugs/html12391574389711.53   0.58
/debian/debian-bugs/text 94711354895 8.81   0.42
/debian/non-free   210896631 0.02   0.40
/pub/ftp.cs.helsinki.fi/.  1 7337907 0.01   0.27
/debian/tools 52 6177341 0.48   0.23
/debian/kernel40 6148273 0.37   0.23
/debian/debian-0.93/ms-do 79 5742120 0.74   0.21
/pub/ftp.cs.helsinki.fi/v  2 4704595 0.02   0.17
/pub/ftp.cs.helsinki.fi/v  8 4628521 0.07   0.17
/pub/ftp.cs.helsinki.fi   10 2586925 0.09   0.10
/debian/contrib/source 6 1778799 0.06   0.07
/pub1/win95/virus  2 1594455 0.02   0.06
/pub1/nt/shells4 1497262 0.04   0.06
/pub1/win3/scrsaver4 1415203 0.04   0.05
/pub/ftp.netscape.com/pub  3 1313951 0.03   0.05
/pub1/win3/graphics3  936402 0.03   0.03
/pub1/win3/winsock 4  892784 0.04   0.03
/debian/project/standards 58  721894 0.54   0.03
/pub/ftp.freebsd.org/tool  3  572717 0.03   0.02
/pub1/win3/cdrom   2  551501 0.02   0.02
/usr/bin   3  544768 0.03   0.02
/debian/contrib/binary75  479248 0.70   0.02
/debian/non-free/ms-dos   61  442670 0.57   0.02
/pub1/win3/news3  378427 0.03   0.01
/debian/project/software   2  377578 0.02   0.01
/pub1/win3/diskutil2  377398 0.02   0.01
/pub1/win3/capture 2  365590 0.02   0.01
/pub1/win3/tex 3  279278 0.03   0.01
/debian/contrib/tools  8  251936 0.07   0.01
/pub1/win3/desktop 2  163231 0.02   0.01
/usr/bin/site-exec 2   98304 0.02   0.00
/pub1/win3 3   90054 0.03   0.00
/debian/info  19   64316 0.18   0.00
/debian/contrib/ms-dos67   44955 0.62   0.00
/debian/doc   14   27552 0.13   0.00
Index/Informational Files 13   10250 0.12   0.00
/pub1/win3/internet27702 0.02   0.00
/pub1/nt   27021 0.02   0.00
/pub/ftp.freebsd.org/docs  1  

Telnetd Environment Vulnerability (fwd)

1995-11-02 Thread Matthew Bailey

FYI

If this has been covered already ignore me I am behind on mail again.. :)
Matt

=
CA-95:14 CERT Advisory
   November 1, 1995
Telnetd Environment Vulnerability
-

The CERT Coordination Center has been made aware of a vulnerability with
some telnet daemons. The daemons affected are those that support RFC 1408
or RFC 1572, both titled "Telnet Environment Option," running on systems
that also support shared object libraries.

To determine if your system is potentially vulnerable, refer to the
information we have received from vendors which is summarized in
Section III below; details are in Appendix A and reproduced in the
CA-95:14.README file. Note that if you installed a version of David 

Borman's telnet package that is older than October 23, 1995, your
system may be vulnerable even though it was not vulnerable as distributed
by the vendor.

If your vendor is not listed, you will need to determine if your system
may be vulnerable. First, determine if your telnet daemon is RFC 1408/1572
compliant. One indication that it is compliant is if your telnet(1)
program supports the "environ" command or your telnetd(8) program supports
the ENVIRON or NEW-ENVIRON options. Unless you are certain that your
telnet daemon is not RFC 1408/1572 compliant, you may wish to assume it is
to be safe. Second, determine if your system supports shared libraries. To
do this, consult the ld(1) manual page. If it describes dynamic or shared
objects, your system probably supports shared object libraries. A system
is potentially vulnerable if the telnet daemon supports RFC 1408/RFC 1572
and the system supports shared object libraries.

We recommend that you follow your vendor's directions for addressing this
vulnerability. Until you can install a patch, we recommend using the
workaround in Appendix B below. If you have previously installed David
Borman's telnet package on your system, we recommend that you obtain the
current version of telnet (see Section III.C).

As we receive additional information relating to this advisory, we will
place it in:

ftp://info.cert.org/pub/cert_advisories/CA-95:14.README

We encourage you to check our README files regularly for updates on
advisories that relate to your site.

-

I.   Description

 Some telnet daemons support RFC 1408 or RFC 1572, both titled "Telnet
 Environment Option." This extension to telnet provides the ability
 to transfer environment variables from one system to another. If
 the remote or targeted system, the one to which the telnet is
 connecting, is running an RFC 1408/RFC 1572-compliant telnet daemon
 *and* the targeted system also supports shared object libraries, then
 it may be possible to transfer environment variables that influence
 the login program called by the telnet daemon. By influencing that
 targeted system, a user may be able to bypass the normal login and
 authentication scheme and may become root on that system.

 Users with accounts on the targeted system can exploit this
 vulnerability. Users without accounts on that system can also
 exploit this vulnerability if they are first able to deposit an
 altered shared object library onto the targeted system. Therefore, a
 system may be vulnerable to users with and without local accounts.

 Not all systems that run an RFC 1408/RFC 1572-compliant telnet daemon
 and support shared object libraries are vulnerable. Some vendors have
 changed the trust model such that environment variables provided by
 the telnet daemon are not trusted and therefore are not used by the
 login program. Section III contains a summary of information vendors
 have reported as of the date of this advisory.

II.  Impact

 Local and remote users can become root on the targeted system.

III. Solution

 The general solution to this problem is to replace the telnet daemon 

 with one that changes the environment given to the login program. We
 recommend that you install a patch from your vendor if possible. If this
 is not possible, we recommend using the workaround in Appendix B until 

 you can install a patch. Finally, if you have previously installed Mr.
 Borman's telnet package, see Section C for how to get a new version that
 fixes the vulnerability. 


 A. Vendor Patches

Below is a summary of the vendors listed in the current version of
the CA-95:14.README file, and the status they have provided.  More
complete information, including how to obtain patches, is provided
in Appendix A of this advisory and reproduced in the README file.
We will update the README file as we re

HELP! (need to find Carl Streeter)

1995-11-06 Thread Matthew Bailey
I am having problems with bugs.cps.cmich.edu and carls account. There 
seems to be this debian bugs file that is over 75 megs in his account 
that procmail keeps tring to parse running me totally out of RAM and 
bring the machine to a crawl!!!

Can anyone tell me what this is, is it still needed? Otherwise I will 
send his mail to /dev/null until it can be fixed.

Or bruce can you remove it from the mailing lists? that might be easier..



--
Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





Re: ftp.debian.org incoming.uk needs update

1995-11-07 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Tue, 7 Nov 1995, Erick Branderhorst wrote:

> The incoming.uk dir isn't mirroring well on ftp.debian.org
> --
> Erick [EMAIL PROTECTED] +31-10-4635142
> Department of General Surgery (Intensive Care) University Hospital Rotterdam 
> NL
> 


The UK machine keeps dropping connection part way through. be patient it 
will all arrive soon.

--
Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





mirror update (fwd)

1995-11-07 Thread Matthew Bailey
Looks like it is all here now!


-- Forwarded message --
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 19:27:22 -0500
From: Charlie Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: mirror update

Mirrored incoming (chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk:/pub/debian/private/Incoming -> 
/debian.org/ftp/debian/private/project/incoming.uk)  @ Tue Nov  7 19:27:21 EST 
1995
Got netstd-1.22-1-src.tar 1771520
Got netstd-1.22-1-diffs.tar 194560
Got netstd-1.22-1.deb 648434
Got dpkgname-0.4-0.tar.gz 3604
Got dpkgname-0.4-0.diff.gz 3926
Got dpkgname-0.4-0.deb 2894
Got dpkgname-0.4-0.changes 494
Got xypic-3.2-3.tar.gz 623017
Got xypic-3.2-3.diff.gz 6004
Got xypic-3.2-3.deb 336863
Got xypic-3.2-3.changes 558
Got dpkgname-0.3-0.tar.gz 3616
Got dpkgname-0.3-0.diff.gz 3953
Got dpkgname-0.3-0.deb 2901
Got dpkgname-0.3-0.changes 450
Got vm-5.95beta-1.tar.gz 198045
Got vm-5.95beta-1.diff.gz 8772
Got svgalib-1.28-1.tar.gz 363216
Got svgalib-1.28-1.diff.gz 8432
Got vm-5.95beta-1.deb 219949
Got svgalib-1.28-1.deb 170241



Re: ftp.debian.org incoming.uk needs update

1995-11-07 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Wed, 8 Nov 1995, Peter Tobias wrote:

> Matthew Bailey wrote:
> > The UK machine keeps dropping connection part way through. be patient it 
> > will all arrive soon.
> 
> Maybe we should try a different site. Please check if you get a
> better connection to:
> 
> sc2.et-inf.fho-emden.de/debian/private/project/Incoming
Looks like UK coughed!

see previous mail with mirror log.

matt



Re: Where are the Updates

1995-11-09 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Thu, 9 Nov 1995, Rod Cole wrote:

> I keep seeing announcements for updated packages and I check daily the
> Debian FTP site in hopes of being able to get the new software.
> 
> However, the most recent update was the one to byacc on October 31.
> 
> What is happening regarding the release of these updated packages?
> 

Ian M. Are you moving files into the tree? Are you also moving the files 
from incoming.uk over into the tree as well?


--
Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





Re: Where are the Updates

1995-11-10 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Fri, 10 Nov 1995, Ian Jackson wrote:

> 
> "deletes to 0%" ?
Yes

If I set do_deletes to 0% inside of mirror then say I mailed you the log 
file which could be parsed by procmail to delete the files that I 
retreived. Then they would stay on my end till Ian M. moved them.


--
Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





Re: Where are the Updates

1995-11-10 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Thu, 9 Nov 1995, Ian Murdock wrote:

> 
> BTW, I got copies of everything again this morning that I moved into
> view yesterday--would it be possible for the files to be removed from
> the Incoming directory in Europe after ftp.debian.org has downloaded
> them?
> 
Ian M. good question.

I will set do deletes to 0% for that mirror. That means after it is in 
the incoming.uk directory then Ian J. Can delete them on his end either 
that or move them into a subdirectory that I can exclude so that the 
packages are available it something goes wrong in transit.

I will have to coordinate with Ian J. on this one.

--
Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





Re: kernels

1995-11-16 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Thu, 16 Nov 1995, Bruce Perens wrote:

> I'll try to build a kernel >= 1.3.40 today. I think the binary interface
> for PPP has changed yet again, and I'm going to need to build a PPP package
> for the 1.3 kernel series - ugh!

Bruce ftp.cps.cmich.edu just received a 1.3.42 just FYI

--
Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





Unidentified subject!

1995-11-17 Thread Matthew Bailey

I don't know if this is a good news or bad news.
but I think there is a big misunderstanding about debian-0.93 and debian-1.0
I really forsee the need to do this

debian-0.93
release -> debian-0.93
development/debian-1.0
NOTICE: NO LINK 
development/trial-packages (or some such instead of inside private/project)

I am getting 10 - 15 complaints a day about this debian-1.0 and how it 
won't install all the way or that it isn't all ELF as advertised 
previously. Well I know I bite my teeth and press delete on all of them I 
gave up responding two days ago. 

I am also noticing concerns from MANY mirror sites that they have stopped 
getting dbian-0.93 because 1.0 was out I have to mail back telling them 
that this is a development tree and that they should exclude 1.0 and get 
0.93. 

I don't know if I am the only one that gets this type of mail but most of 
mine comes from [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Anyway it is getting real late and I am going to bed CYA!

Matthew S. Bailey



TOTALS FOR SUMMARY PERIOD Thu Nov 16 1995 TO Thu Nov 16 1995

Files Transmitted During Summary Period 10910
Bytes Transmitted During Summary Period2407017672
Systems Using Archives  0

Average Files Transmitted Daily 10910
Average Bytes Transmitted Daily2407017672

Daily Transmission Statistics

 Number OfNumber ofAveragePercent Of  Percent Of
 DateFiles Sent  Bytes  Sent  Xmit  Rate  Files Sent  Bytes Sent
---  --  ---  --  --  --
Thu Nov 16 1995   10910   24070176724.5 KB/s100.00  100.00

Total Transfers from each Archive Section (By bytes)

  Percent  Of 
 Archive Section  Files Sent Bytes Sent  Files Sent Bytes Sent
- -- --- -- --
/debian/debian-1.0/binary   1788   54593887216.39  22.68
/debian/debian-1.0/source   4604   45530336942.20  18.92
/debian/debian-0.93/binar   1384   44530522412.69  18.50
/debian/private/project  435   252289604 3.99  10.48
/debian/debian-0.93/sourc   1200   21768847211.00   9.04
/debian/debian-0.93/disks100   102240519 0.92   4.25
/pub/ftp.freebsd.org/2.1.21456974607 1.96   2.37
/debian/debian-1.06755435031 0.61   2.30
/debian/debian-0.93   6151342624 0.56   2.13
/debian  23040629335 2.11   1.69
/debian/debian-1.0/disks  3840335117 0.35   1.68
/pub/ftp.freebsd.org/2.0. 9438166763 0.86   1.59
/pub/ftp.netscape.com/2.0 3628851931 0.33   1.20
/debian/contrib/source4622766755 0.42   0.95
/debian/contrib/binary9720278528 0.89   0.84
/pub/ftp.cs.helsinki.fi/v  2 4706870 0.02   0.20
/debian/debian-1.0/ms-dos 53 4378852 0.49   0.18
/pub/ftp.cs.helsinki.fi/v 10 4126035 0.09   0.17
/debian/debian-0.93/ms-do 49 4041241 0.45   0.17
/debian/non-free/binary   57 3284435 0.52   0.14
/pub1/win95/canon  2 2672426 0.02   0.11
/debian/tools 27 2092958 0.25   0.09
/debian/doc   36 1447720 0.33   0.06
/debian/project/experimen 14 1385830 0.13   0.06
/pub/ftp.cs.helsinki.fi3 1276231 0.03   0.05
/pub1/win3/winsock 6  722355 0.05   0.03
/pub1/win95/commprog   3  473896 0.03   0.02
/debian/non-free/ms-dos   44  357698 0.40   0.01
/debian/debian-bugs/html  15  339260 0.14   0.01
/pub1/win95/graphics   2  320989 0.02   0.01
/debian/kernel 5  314956 0.05   0.01
/pub/ftp.netscape.com/uns  2  291524 0.02   0.01
/debian/debian-bugs/text  15  278695 0.14   0.01
/debian/project/standards 31  177300 0.28   0.01
/pub/ftp.freebsd.org/docs  2  149960 0.02   0.01
/pub1/win95/sysutil4  141459 0.04   0.01
/debian/contrib/tools  3   94476 0.03   0.00
/pub1/win3 6   91314 0.05   0.00
/debian/contrib/ms-dos54   47362 0.49   0.00
/pub1/win3/clock   1   34425 0.01   0.00
/pub1/win955   32858 0.05   0.00
/pub1/win3/graphics2   32366 0.02   0.00
/pub/ftp.netscape.com/col  4   28192 0.04   0.00
/pub1/win3/desktop 1   18456 0.01   0.00
/pub/ftp.netscape.com/ser  3  

Re: chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk's Incoming

1995-11-17 Thread Matthew Bailey
> 
> Matt: you can now stop mirroring Incoming.uk from chiark and delete
> it on ftp.debian.org.
GONE!!!

Enjoy!


--
Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





Re: Unidentified subject!

1995-11-17 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Fri, 17 Nov 1995, Ian Murdock wrote:

> 
> Why would the mirror program be removing debian-0.93?
> 

No, They have told mirror to exclude it due to space restrictions

I have been telling them NOT to mirror 1.0 if they are under a space crunch.
But rather just get debian-0.93 instead..

--
Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





Well folks...

1995-11-21 Thread Matthew Bailey

It looks like I am buring up more hard drives than I can buy around here :)

We are not losing the debian.org drive but we are losing drives that are 
not even being used yet.

I am currentyl making tape backups of the system and therefore are 
stopping uploads from happening. (and downloads for that matter.)

Anyway yesterday we had problems with our Fiber Optic Ring here on campus 
which caused us to lose 75% of the packets going across the line. Today 
that has been fixed by CISCO and we are back running except I am making 
backups.

Folks I have two choices for you..

1 I bring the machine down now to fix the problem and unpgrade the OS to 
current released version.

OR

2 I wait for Christmas break take the machine down for "3 Weeks" and do 
it up right. This also means the machine will have its ups and downs over 
the next three weeks while we wait.



--
Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





Re: Well folks...

1995-11-21 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, David H. Silber wrote:

> 
> Is there a possibility of finding a machine to take over as ``ftp.debian.org''
> while the upgrade happens?  Too often it seems that a minor fix snowballs into
> a major problem.  If we can set up such a replacement system, even 
> temporarily,
> it would allow the upgrade to be installed and tested in less of a rush and
> any problems would be invisible to the external users.  (Obviously, it would
> be ideal if we could keep the secondary system as a "hot backup"... but
> here I'm dreaming.)

Well there is a machine that is "a hot backup" problem is that I am going 
to be taking it with me when I go home over break

I am not going to take it offline unless one people want me to do it now.
OR
Christmas comes along. during chrismas when "NO ONE is here" I don't 
trust things anyway. I plan on building it over christmas unless people 
want me to do it now... I will change a few hard drives around on the 
next round and be adding some others. 

I just want opinions before I do anything.

--
Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





Re: Well folks...

1995-11-21 Thread Matthew Bailey
> 
> When should I try to get in to ftp.debian.org to upload
> dbackup-0.1-alpha.2.{deb,tar.gz}?
> 
Sorry, Forgot to reopen the ftpserver. The backup finished two hours ago...

Upload away again...




Well the machine would be gone for around the 16th to the 3rd of january.

It is too late for me to do much now with mine since I am already packing 
it up to take home with me for the next week. So I will need someone to 
cover me on that.

Ian Murdock what did they ever do with the new IP I gave you?
You know this would be easier if I could control DNS that way I could 
just point the thing where it needs to be :)

Anyway

--
Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





Bug#1884: at 2.9a-1 Documentation error

1995-11-22 Thread Matthew Bailey

:) for the few of you that have IRC'ed before you will understand that :)

Fixed the problem with drive space on debian.org there is now 270ish and 
will free up 70 more megs after my 4 day weekend...

PLEASE don't asked me about this is was _really_ dumb :)


--
Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





Re: [miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx: New Linux/SPARC snapshot] (fwd)

1995-11-27 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Mon, 27 Nov 1995, Ian Jackson wrote:

> 
> In this day and age there are very few programs that need to have
> different source code to compile on different CPUs.
> 
> Lest anyone think that I speak as someone who doesn't have to deal
> with this problem, I'd like to point out that I'm the maintainer of
> PGP, which has assembler routines for some architectures.
> 
LIBC will cause a major concern here considering the port is HUGE to make 
it all work. The kernel Source tree is not a big deal since it can 
configure most of itself.



-- Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





Movement :/ OK OK :)

1995-11-27 Thread Matthew Bailey
Over the next weekish or so I will be rebuilding the ftp server.
The amount of downtime should be minimal since I will use my "PERSONAL" 
machine while I rebuild the FTP/WEB server so that I can forget about it 
for the next 6 months

I will be moving WWW from the apache server over Netscape's NetSite 
server during this move. This will allow for a few nice features that I 
didn't have before.

I will not be bringing ftp.debian.org OFFLINE until I am ready to make 
the move. I will however be shadowing ftp.debian.org on ftp.cps.cmich.edu 
while I am making this happen. If you have problems with ftp.debian.org 
try ftp.cps.cmich.edu this will hopefully make things go a bit smoother.

Ian M. : If you want to make sure time stamps are preserved PLEASE PLEASE 
get a stamps.tar and place it somewhere :) I have no clue how you are 
able to recontruct these so if you would be so kind as to keep a copy.

I am also under the impression that uploads are rather inmaterial as far 
as timestamps are concerned. 

By default mirror (from src.doc.ic.ac.uk) just updates the time stamps 
and does not re-retrieve the files...

So Starting sometime tommorow I will be at play..
Thanks

--
Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





Re: [miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx: New Linux/SPARC snapshot] (fwd)

1995-11-27 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Tue, 28 Nov 1995, Ian Jackson wrote:

> 
> I didn't realise the libc had been hacked so far from the GNU one
> (which has a sophisticated built-time configuration mechanism).
> 
> Are the two libcs being maintained (upstream) separately ?  If so they
> should probably have different source packages.
> 
Currently the only LIBC is  SUN LIBC which is running in binary compat mode.
The GNU LIBC is being ported by the sparclinux people as fast as they 
can. They have just made "userland" in the last two weeks

But they have SCSI/NFS/EXT2FS Running already so they are not all that 
far off.
--
Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





FTP status for december.

1995-12-01 Thread Matthew Bailey

Well the ftp server has been real solid for the past month and seems to 
be doing nicely _except_ for a memory leak in a library. For this reason 
I will be pulling the debian.org drive out of the machine and moving it 
to my co-workers machine for the weekend.

This will "halt" www traffic during this But be assured the drive will 
remain intact. As far as ftp is concerned there will be NO UPLOADS over 
the weekend. This is mainly so I can keep my sanity. Also the mirror 
sites and the users will not be able to get onto the machine to do work. 
Sorry, but I really need to do this. Everything should "be back to 
normal" on monday early afternoon when I can put the drive back into this 
machine. When the machine comes back I plan on not making any changes 
again till summer or later. Work load here has been at the stressful edge 
and now I need time to play.

:)


--
Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





Re: Back...

1995-12-06 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, Ian Jackson wrote:

> 
> I reenabled the queue processor for uploads from chiark a little while
> ago; I expect it will be hard at work if it hasn't finished already by
> now.

OK thanks. I suspect that it will be hard at work. 

Just FYI the web servr is happily up and running on Netscape Netsite 
server and seems to be a bit more reliable than apache as far as multiple 
hosts go.

Ray Dassen: there are some database problems with the search you might 
want to check these out.
you also own all of /www/debian.org and you cgi's are in 
/www/debian.org/cgi-bin you can also call your files .cgi anywhere set 
them with the execute bit and you can run ourside of the cgi-bin directory.

I hope this will be a much more stable platform. I have a LOT more work 
to do but nothing that should really affect the functions under the 
*.debian.org domains for at least 6 months ;)



-- Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





Re: Where 1.0 is

1995-12-09 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, Bruce Perens wrote:

> It is now back in ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ALPHA-TEST/debian-1.0 .
> However, ALPHA-TEST is now unreadable to foil the mirror sites. You know
> the drill to get through it. I think Matt Bailey moved it, but I wish
> he'd provided us a way to get at it in its new location before he did
> that. People are working on ELF tonight. Thus, I took the liberty of
> putting it back. I have taken enough liberties today for the entire
> rest of the month. Someone please find Ian.

I moved it because all the mirror sites were sucking it down, I wanted a 
solution before this was retreived(SP?) by every site on the net again 
just incase it was going back to its original spot. The symlinks that 
were there can cause mirror sto go nuts. Atleast bruce set it so world 
could not read it.


--
Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





Re: 1.0 on Infomagic CD

1995-12-09 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Sat, 9 Dec 1995, Fernando Alegre wrote:
> release-0.93/
> not-released-1.0/

The whole problem is nothing more than hindsite now, so lets drop it an 
update of whats is going to happen is forth coming.

--
Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





Re: Infomagic and 1.0

1995-12-09 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Sat, 9 Dec 1995, Bill Mitchell wrote:

> 
> Since Infomagic has pressed the CDs, I wonder if it'd be possible
> to get them to include an insert with distributed CDs explaining
> the situation.  Otherwise CD buyers are going to be put off debian
> when they try it from the CD.
> 
Really they should destroy them! but I am only dreaming. Their covers 
should atleast be changed to say Alpha 1.0 of debian or some such.

Or just remove the debian name from the all together and just leave it on 
the rom for those adventurous(SP?) types...

Bill: I will fix the upload permission as soon as I talk to Ian M. he 
seems to be all but off the face of the earth.

--
Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





Re: bumping the version number

1995-12-09 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Sat, 9 Dec 1995, Ian Murdock wrote:

> On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, Bruce Perens wrote:
> I wouldn't make the development release *too* hard to get to, as a few
> people have suggested doing.  I think that having a separate login for
> getting it is excessive.  It's in our best interest to make the
> development release as easy to get to as possible, so as many users (who
> all know what they're getting into!) can install it and help us make the
> released version more stable.

Ian I have already made a new account. This account is for the people 
that want to mirror it since they will not be able with normal mirror 
packages. This is what we want more than anything else. They can still 
get to the tree through a hidden directory path as before.

> 
> I'd rather make it more obvious than we've been doing that 1.1 is a
> development, not a released, version.  I think that renaming the place
> where it's stored on the FTP archive "development" and moving it to an
> unreadable directory (with the name of this unreadable directory named
> in a README file, after the disclaimers, warnings, etc.) is sufficient. 
> 
Sounds fine to me but the account that goes with the development tree is 
alpha with password gnu/fsf

This should suffice for the people who wish to mirror JUST the 
development branch.


Ian M. if you move it out of ALPHA-TEST then _PLEASE_ let me know so I 
can make this account point to the right place..

--
Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





Re: ncurses available on ftp.pixar.com

1995-12-09 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Sat, 9 Dec 1995, Michael Alan Dorman wrote:

> 
> Since ftp.debian.org seems to still be having problems with people
> downloading new files, I'm putting a copy of ncurses-1.9.8a in
> ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/bruce/Incoming, since a handful of people have
> contacted me since yesterday to ask if I could send them copies directly.
> 
> I think ncurses wins an award for "most packages from one source archive." 
Whoaaa now! there is a definite reason for this

There is NO problem with uploads. The fact that I receive 10-5 mails a 
day to ftpadmin about corrupt files in private/project/Incoming made me 
opt for this method. This should be for INCOMING use only. the files will 
be available as soon as the ftp site maintainer moves them into the 
public trees. I don't even care if all he does is move them to a 
different tree like Arrived or some such. but Incoming is just that 
Incoming and should not be used for downloading. 

This has also come from the few pieces of software that have been 
uploaded to the directory that were far from free.

So I am sorry some of you don't like this but this is the way it will 
have to be.

Bruce doesn't allow for downloads from his Incoming tree either the last 
I knew. He had to move them out to a directory called Debian instead.

Please do not upload to ftp.pixar.com unless there is an absolute need.


--
Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





Re: ncurses available on ftp.pixar.com

1995-12-10 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Sun, 10 Dec 1995, Michael Alan Dorman wrote:

> 
> I apologize for my gaffe.  Obviously I should pay better attention to my
> mail, since it seems I glossed over the announcement of the change in
> policy. 

You didn't miss any mail, I had mailed Ian M. to tell him about this but 
I just got 5 bounced mail messages from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh well shit 
happens. Ian M. if you get this everything that I had mailed you has 
already been said on the devel list.. I was tring to get your opinion 
before I did such.

--
Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





Re: Infomagic and 1.0

1995-12-10 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Sat, 9 Dec 1995, Ian Murdock wrote:

> On Sat, 9 Dec 1995, Matthew Bailey wrote:
> 
> > Bill: I will fix the upload permission as soon as I talk to Ian M. he 
> > seems to be all but off the face of the earth.
> 
> I'm here--what do you need to talk to me about?
> 
Well everything has been on the list already. I am getting illegal 
software uploads into the Incoming directory nd many ccomplaints about 
the files being corrupt. Most of these corrupt files are just files that 
are being uploaded. 
We need to come up with a convention for handling this. Any Ideas..
right now the files are 0660 to prevent downloads of illegal software or 
partially uploaded software. they should be owned imurdock.debian but for 
some strange reason they are ending up imurdock.wheel I think.

If you can figure out how to get the permission to .debian inside my 
ftpaccess file then the buster login would be able to download them.


--
Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





Re: Downloading from US sites

1995-12-10 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Sun, 10 Dec 1995, Sven Rudolph wrote:

> Any thoughts on this ? Any objection against mirroring the Incoming
> area ?

Yes! Incoming is what it stands for INCOMING.

If you want an OUTGOING then someone will have to create one by manually 
moving the files from Incoming over to OUTGOING.

I am sorry but I don't need anymore complaints about corrupt files.
I also don't want the illegal software that has been uploaded lately to 
be mirrored to other sites. Please understand the problems involved here. 
Maybe the announcement should be uploaded instead of mailed and when the 
archive maintainer moves the file into public view then it will get 
mailed to the mailing list.

I am sorry to be an ass here but you have to understand these views. I am 
doing what is best for the University by not allowing for illegal 
software to be downloaded.



--
Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





Just FYI

1995-12-10 Thread Matthew Bailey
I have just created an Outgoing directory which has everything from the 
Incoming directory in it.

These files are downloadable the files that go into incoming are still 
set 0660.

I will move files into the Outgoing directory when I see a medium/urgent 
tag in the change file. Or a developer must need pacakge.

Hope this helps a bit..

--
Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





Re: bumping the version number

1995-12-10 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Sun, 10 Dec 1995 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> If there is interest I can post my "ftp.debian.org" file for mirror.
> 
> --
> Dirk Eddelb|ttel
> http://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd
> 
I prefer that they use the extra accounts instead of a single file that 
will do all the work. This makes it so if the files get movedd around 
that the chroot() ALPHA-TEST that thes login does works correctly. If 
they use a mirror script that will get hidden/semi-hidden files then what 
good does making them that way. If I want to move around ALPHA-TEST to 
BETA-TEST then these people will have to download all of it again yet if 
they use my login then if I move the directory none of this can happen.



--
Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





Re: Incoming directory

1995-12-12 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, brian (b.c.) white wrote:

> Where precisely is the Incoming directory these days?
> 
ftp.debian.org:/debian/private/project/Incoming

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107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





Re: binary-alpha and binary-sparc directories

1995-12-27 Thread Matthew Bailey

For those out there that are interested. I will make space available for 
these ports, and allow each group to maintain uploads for the subtree.

Please contact me if you are in need of an account for this use.

--
Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





Re: bind-4.9.3BETA26-3 uploaded

1995-12-28 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Thu, 28 Dec 1995, Carl Streeter wrote:

> On Sat, 23 Dec 1995, Robert Leslie wrote:
> 

Just another side note beta 32 is out.
And in a few days a 4.9.3-REL will be available for public consumption.

just another FYI

--
Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





Re: binary-alpha and binary-sparc directories

1995-12-29 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, Ian Murdock wrote:

> be maintained just like the i386 version is maintained.  (That is,
> contributors upload packages to an Incoming directory and I move them into
> the archive from there.)

No a problem, but we will need more incomings to help keep the sort down.

--
Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





Re: ftp.debian.org is down.

1995-12-30 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Fri, 29 Dec 1995 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hope this event wasn't already announced, and I missed it, but the ftp
> site seems to be down.
> 

Nope :) just netscrapers getting the new beta. :)



--
Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





Re: ftp.debian.org?

1995-12-31 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Sun, 31 Dec 1995, Karl Ferguson wrote:

> Hi...
> 
> Just logged into ftp.debian.org with my mirror script manually and it was
> about to delete ALL my files.  I manually ftp'd in there and the only
> directory under there was "ftpadmin" with a few files in it.  Where has
> the whole of the Debian Linux archive gone?  Luckily I stopped my mirror
> before it was going to delete everything here...
> 
> ...Karl
220 bugs.cps.cmich.edu FTP server (Version wu-2.4(1) Wed Dec 6 10:26:23 
EST 1995) ready.
Name (localhost:root): buster
331 Password required for buster.
Password:
230 User buster logged in.
Remote system type is UNIX.
Using binary mode to transfer files.
ftp> dir
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
total 40
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel0 Oct 30 10:44 .notar
drwxr-xr-x   2 root  wheel  512 Oct 11 14:50 bin
drwxrwxr-x  12 imurdock  debian1024 Dec 30 23:55 debian
drwxr-xr-x   2 root  wheel  512 Jun 20  1995 dev
drwxr-xr-x   2 root  wheel  512 Sep 26 13:51 etc
drwxr-xr-x   3 ftp   ftpadmin   512 Oct 29 23:44 private
drwxr-xr-x   6 root  wheel  512 Dec 12 23:34 pub
drwxr-xr-x   2 root  wheel 9728 Dec 27 11:46 pub1
drwxr-xr-x   4 root  wheel  512 Jul  7 00:38 usr
-rw-r--r--   1 imurdock  debian1025 Oct 10 14:32 welcome.msg
226 Transfer complete.
ftp> quit
221 Goodbye.
bash# ftp localhost
Connected to localhost.
220-Welcome to C e n t r a l  M i c h i g a n  U n i v e r s i t y
220- Departent of Computer Science
220-
220-Home of the Debian GNU/Linux distribution.
220-
220 bugs.cps.cmich.edu FTP server (Version wu-2.4(1) Wed Dec 6 10:26:23 
EST 1995) ready.
Name (localhost:root): anonymous
331 Guest login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password.
Password:
230-**
230-  WELCOME TO
230-C E N T R A L   M I C H I G A N   U N I V E R S I T Y
230-DEPARTMENT OF COMPUTER SCIENCE
230-**
230-
230-Hello, user at localhost.
230-
230-You are currently user 151 out of a possible 175 in your class.
230-
230-If you experience problems with this archive or if you have comments 
or
230-questions about this archive, please contact 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
230-
230-Anonymous users: Please use a real e-mail address as your password,
230-not "root", "Netscape", "WWWuser", etc., and please keep the number of
230-connections to one.  If this becomes a problem, we will deny access to
230-your machine, or even to your entire domain.
230-
230-The official Debian GNU/Linux archive is located on this machine in 
the
230-directory /debian.
230-
230-NOTE: This site allows the .tar.gz convention, but please note that 
99%
230-  of the files on this site are already compressed.  Therefore, 
.gz
230-  should not be used, as it creates unnecessary load on the 
server.
230-
230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply.
Remote system type is UNIX.
Using binary mode to transfer files.
ftp> dir
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
total 40
-rw-r--r--   1 0  wheel0 Oct 30 15:44 .notar
drwxr-xr-x   2 0  wheel  512 Oct 11 18:50 bin
drwxrwxr-x  12 1  debian1024 Dec 31 04:55 debian
drwxr-xr-x   2 0  wheel  512 Jun 21  1995 dev
drwxr-xr-x   2 0  wheel  512 Sep 26 17:51 etc
drwxr-xr-x   3 50 ftpadmin   512 Oct 30 04:44 private
drwxr-xr-x   6 0  wheel  512 Dec 13 04:34 pub
drwxr-xr-x   2 0  wheel 9728 Dec 27 16:46 pub1
drwxr-xr-x   4 0  wheel  512 Jul  7 04:38 usr
-rw-r--r--   1 1  debian1025 Oct 10 18:32 welcome.msg
226 Transfer complete.
ftp> cd debian
250-The current version of Debian GNU/Linux is 0.93 Release 6,
250-in the debian-0.93 directory here.
250-
250-For more information about Debian GNU/Linux, please visit the World
250-Wide Web page http://www.debian.org/.
250-
250-Please read the file README.DEBIAN
250-  it was last modified on Thu Oct 26 22:55:35 1995 - 66 days ago
250-Please read the file README.USE-0.93
250-  it was last modified on Fri Dec  8 15:07:30 1995 - 23 days ago
250-Please read the file README.mirrors
250-  it was last modified on Sat Dec 23 01:09:22 1995 - 8 days ago
250 CWD command successful.
ftp> dir
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
total 3204
-rw-rw-r--  1 3969   debian 201 Nov 18 16:26 .message
-rw-rw-r--  1 1  debian   0 Dec 23 06:09 .notar
drwxrwx--x  3 10005  debian 512 Dec  9 17:25 ALPHA-TEST
-rw-rw-r--  1 1  debian  141302 Dec 28 21:36 Packages-Master
-rw-rw-r--  1 1  debian   40372 Dec 28 21:37 Packages-Master.gz
-rw-r--r--  1 1  debian2982 Oct 27 02:55 README.DEBIAN
-rw-rw-r--  1 3969   debian 310 Dec  8 20:07 README.USE-0.93
-rw-r--r--  1 1  debian2435 Dec 23 06:09 README.mirrors
drw

Re: ftp.debian.org?

1995-12-31 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Sun, 31 Dec 1995, Karl Ferguson wrote:

> Hi again...
> 
> It seems that the buster login for mirrors on ftp.debian.org has been moved
> to the root directory ( / ) of debian.org.  Now to get to the Debian
> distribution we have to go into "/debian.org/ftp/debian".  Could someone
> try to correct the buster login before the mirrors delete everything?
> 
> Seeya.

Didn't make any changes to the code. :( sorry


--
Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





BIND 4.9.3-REL announcement (fwd)

1996-01-01 Thread Matthew Bailey

Thought the bind maintainer would like to know.

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Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
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Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)



-- Forwarded message --
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 15:41:43 -0800
From: Paul A Vixie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: BIND 4.9.3-REL announcement

This is the long-awaited "final release" of BIND 4.9.3.

The time at this writing is "Sun Dec 31 23:39:46 GMT 1995."

All public and private test releases have been removed.

The distribution is:

ftp://ftp.vix.com/pub/bind/release/bind-4.9.3-REL.tar.gz>

Size:   1682741 bytes
POSIX checksum: 2183623314 1682741
MD5 checksum:   da1908b001f8e6dc93fe02589b989ef1

You can get my PGP public key by fingering [EMAIL PROTECTED] or from
the MIT key server.  My fingerprint is:
BA A8 64 76 55 C1 72 63 44 56 B2 0C 07 E6 28 81
I don't have the technology at hand to sign this announcement, but I can
sign the distribution with a "detached ascii armoured signature certificate":

-BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-
Version: 2.6.2

iQCVAwUAMOcd+ncdkq6JcsfBAQHGRwP/SqUSNcgNCJeLn7cbmxZkupRPB0GiS8Oa
NMJiK+peTUG+mJaFzCbCAkjSQL7TPVYNvHoMWuvMaOvYySdMDmoLiEdWDEUkrJT+
A+54HMmPKUZXsCO4vGcSiVZKivgbLINcBAVQ8nyyfZO3dQtDag0HJG4yLJNAWtIi
wjItgOO0rl0=
=6WTm
-END PGP MESSAGE-

As always, see http://www.isc.org/isc/> for more details.  Note that we
have some mirrors operating now, in case you are outside of the continental
U.S. and won't have good access to my FTP server.  Check the following after
this message has been in your inbox for about 12 hours.

ftp://bind.fit.qut.edu.au/pub/bind>June 1995
ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/unix/tcpip/dns/bind/>   June 1995
ftp://ftp.univ-lyon1.fr/pub/mirrors/unix/bind/>June 1995
ftp://ftp.oleane.net/pub/mirrors/unix/bind/>   June 1995
ftp://ftp.ucr.ac.cr/pub/Unix/dns/bind/>August 1995



Re: FTP site hosed

1996-01-02 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Bruce Perens wrote:

> I seem to have lost access to the debian archive through my own login on
> ftp.debian.org . In addition, I can't use the anonymous login, as there are
> 150 people retrieving netscape. I sure hope netscape is paying for the
> service.

Nope...

use the mirror account buster with password fsf/gnu

Bruce the problem is that i had to add debian as a guest group causing 
your login to become a chroot() to your home account.

Mainly because mirrors were complaining about the /debian/ type of 
problem if they all just tsuck to debian/ then there would not have been a 
problem. Anyway use buster if need be or after 6pm to 6am EST anonymous 
becomes a free for all at 1250 users

enjoy

--
Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





Re: FTP site performance low

1996-01-03 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Wed, 3 Jan 1996, Bruce Perens wrote:

> Is there any prediction how long the FTP site will be bombarded by people
> retrieving netscape? Is this going to be a regular occurrance? It's perhaps
> a bit too slow for mirror scripts to run well. Performance from here seems
> to be about 1K/second or less.

Well limits were just droped since we are close to school starting again.

Well netscape corp screwed me with politics and listed me in their mirror 
listings. Well there used to be more mirrors but it seems that we are one 
of three listed now. And until beta 5 or release version are out I can 
not get out of their list. And I can not remove their software until this 
happens.

So for now please use a mirror. Or get the files during the day when 
there is fewer users.



--
Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





Notice: Beta 5 Pending (fwd)

1996-01-05 Thread Matthew Bailey

JUST FYI ftp load should return to normal soon.. read attached message.
(meaning when this goes out the door then I will not be in their list 
anymore.)

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Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-- Forwarded message --
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 1996 16:32:49 +
From: Unknown netscape employee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Notice: Beta 5 Pending

Hi Mirrorsite friends,

This is some advance notice that
Beta 5 for Navigator *should* be ready
within several days.

I will notify you as soon as it is
ready for you to mirror.

Thanks,
-- 


Product Management, Netscape Navigator
Netscape Communications Corp.