Re: Release Plans (1999-05-10)
On Mon, 10 May 1999, Hartmut Koptein wrote: > > There's also another thing that need to be worked on, the CDs. The > > script creating the images is not smart enough to select just the > > good number of packages for each CDs. Currently, the two binary CDs > > can still be generated for potato but not the source images (they are too > > big). And many dependencies on the first CD are not met. > > For m68k-mac and powermac we need 'hybrid' cd-images (msdos + hfs). A bootable CD for PReP will need a special layout as well. prep image + isofs...looks like we need multiple powerpc binary cd images. -- Matt Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is Linux Country. On a quiet night, you can hear Windows reboot.
Re: Release Plans (1999-05-10)
On Mon, 10 May 1999, Hartmut Koptein wrote: > > > For m68k-mac and powermac we need 'hybrid' cd-images (msdos + hfs). > > > > A bootable CD for PReP will need a special layout as well. prep image + > > isofs...looks like we need multiple powerpc binary cd images. > > PReP can't read msdos partition on cd? Sure, it just needs a special layout to be bootable...which I'd like to see. I'm sure pmac and chrp have a special format to boot a CD too, right? Realistically, this is the least of my worries...I'm still hammering away on boot-floppies to get PReP working... :-/ -- Matt Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is Linux Country. On a quiet night, you can hear Windows reboot.
Re: Release Plans (1999-05-10)
On Wed, 12 May 1999, Sven LUTHER wrote: > On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 03:09:02PM +0200, Hartmut Koptein wrote: > > No! Only one (2) cd for all powerpc systems. Please think about a wrapper > > for this > > or special boot-arguments ... but not 5 different powerpc-images. > > I think the issue is the different way that different ppc systems uses to boot > from the CD. I am not entirely sure how amigaos does this, but i bet it is > different from macos ... > > Sure, we could choose not to be cd-bootable, best would be to d othis the same > way it is done for linux/m68k cds .. Exactly. For a PReP bootable CD (which would be nice), you have to lay the first track as a raw PReP bootable image. The second track has your fs in whatever format you want dos/iso/etc. Although this CD will work on other architectures, it will not be bootable unless they have boot schemes which don't conflict with PReP. The problem is that each subarch is too different to have a full-featured unified CD. If we want a unified official CD then it will have to go to the lowest common denominator. Of course, a PPC user can't boot from CD then they have to resort to floppy or network which means we've got to split the rescue disk or fix the libc hack so we can squeeze on one floppy. How hard is maintaining separate bootable CD images for each subarch that can handle booting from CD? We have apus - ? chrp - ? pmac - supports CD booting - how? prep - supports CD booting - as I described. Everything on the fs will be the same at least between subarchs. -- Matt Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is Linux Country. On a quiet night, you can hear Windows reboot.
Re: Release Plans (1999-05-10)
On Wed, 12 May 1999, Joel Klecker wrote: > At 15:14 +0200 1999-05-12, Sven LUTHER wrote: > >I think the issue is the different way that different ppc systems uses to > >boot > >from the CD. I am not entirely sure how amigaos does this, but i bet it is > >different from macos ... > > > >Sure, we could choose not to be cd-bootable, best would be to d othis the > >same > >way it is done for linux/m68k cds .. > > For power macs, we don't need to worry about bootable CDs, most of > them have Open Firmware that is too broken to even be capable of > booting from either a cdrom drive or a iso9660 filesystem. > The few macs that have reasonable OF should be able to boot from an > arbitrary executable residing anywhere on the filesystem. The non-mac CHRP boards (LongTrails etc.) also use OF I believe. Are their OF's so broken that they don't work properly as well? Perhaps APUS and PReP (and I'm talking PPCBUG firmware not OF systems) are the only ones we need to worry about. Interestingly enough, Motorola dropped OF because it was so damn buggy. -- Matt Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is Linux Country. On a quiet night, you can hear Windows reboot.
Re: Hosed system during package build
On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 08:26:15PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 16-Sep-99, 13:21 (CDT), Ben Gertzfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>>>> "Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Dale> I'm going to take my time "recovering" from this, as there > > Dale> are things still on hda1 that I am likely to want saved. Any > > Dale> helpful hints about how to keep such things from happening > > Dale> in the future would be greatfully appreciated. > > > > Fakeroot, fakeroot, fakeroot. What I tell you three times is true. :) > > I saw much talk about fakeroot not working with the new glibc, much talk > about it being difficult to fix, and no talk about it being fixed. > > So, it is working again? I didn't know it was broken. I use it with glibc 2.1.2 on PowerPC every day to manually build packages. -- Matt Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is Linux Country. On a quiet night, you can hear Windows reboot.
