Re: Bug#502959: general: raff.debian.org uses non-free software
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Di, 21 Okt 2008, Luca Niccoli wrote: >> > raff.debian.org uses a Compaq Smart 5i RAID card. A flash memory is used >> > to store the firmware. While the firmware is freely downloadable (as in >> > beer) on HP website [1], we don't have the corresponding source code. >> >> May I ask how many computers does the project debian use, which have >> closed source BIOSes (or equivalent)? > > 100% agreed. We should shut down the Debian project until enough > coreboot is added. > > In the end, all these discussions showed that many people here don't > give a piss for the users. As a mere user I very glad that Debian stands where it does on the spectrum of caring about users vs caring about freedom. It is one of the major reasons I am a user of Debian. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 02:35, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jun 28, Mike Hommey wrote: > >> Unfortunately, as xpcom is guaranteed forward compatible but not >> backwards compatible, some plugins and extensions, once built against >> xulrunner 1.9.2, are likely to not work in iceape 2.0 anymore. This >> would leave iceape users with a bitter aftertaste. Alternatively, > And how would this be worse than shipping a version of iceweasel which > is already obsolete? Who actually cares about iceape? I would say I care, but I use Mozilla nightlies straight from ftp.mozilla.org... But if current stable doesn't have iceape, anyone on stable that wants it must be doing something else anyway, so I'm not sure it's that big a deal. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktili6xjjh5ckitbdcdj3hipmnvo8r37bjynto...@mail.gmail.com
Re: What's going on in Debian Qt world?
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 01:15, Fathi Boudra wrote: > > Finally, I have started to ship a snapshot of a new Phonon backend: Phonon > VLC, > one backend to rule them all ;) You aren't going to drop the GStreamer backend, though, right? Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktiloqutnxyywj_zvbrknes0l_fkgklqsd1ovv...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Upcoming Section changes in the archive
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 15:50, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le jeudi 26 février 2009 à 21:07 +0100, Joerg Jaspert a écrit : >> ruby Everything about ruby, an interpreted object >> oriented >> language. >> java Everything about Java > > How about a "cli" section about everything related to Mono and the > Common Language Infrastructure (aka .NET) ? That makes quite a number of > packages now. Am I the only one that gets confused by the name "cli"? I always think "command line interface" first and mono/.net second. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Berkeley DB 6.0 license change to AGPLv3
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * Paul Tagliamonte [130702 15:15]: >> Again, why do you plan on removing free software from main due to a >> change in license? > > Licenses matter. Just because something it acceptable for Debian > main does not mean it is a good idea to have something licensed under > a specific license. So removing stuff if their license changes can > make sense in many situations. > > And doubly so for AGPL. (I'll never understand why people consider it > free software, I'd not even allow the term freeware for it). Something like AGPL is needed, badly; if you can help come up with a better license that gets to the same goal, please do! Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFoWM=8cotk4vwjdppg5fqk+7erjfedu3b37sk5no_ppfox...@mail.gmail.com
Re: PulseAudio
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 2:53 AM, Maarten Lankhorst wrote: > Op 17-07-13 11:20, Samuel Thibault schreef: >> John Paul Adrian Glaubitz, le Wed 17 Jul 2013 11:13:37 +0200, a écrit : >>> On 07/17/2013 11:09 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote: >>>> That these setups exist is completely fine. That the additional >>>> PulseAudio layer is being imposed even on systems that have a single >>>> sound card, is not. >>> Unless your PC was made in 1995, I am pretty sure it has one of these >>> "advanced" setups. Secondly, I am not seeing PA imposed onto anyone, >> It's getting pulled through various packages. >> >>> If you don't like it, uninstall it. >> It becomes more and more difficult to do it. >> >> Samuel >> >> > Fine, I'll bite.. > > chmod -x /usr/bin/pulseaudio > > or > > apt-get remove pulseaudio > > And just because libpulse is pulled doesn't mean the pulseaudio daemon is > pulled. Removing the > pulseaudio package would still be possible, even if it means leaving libpulse > intact. > > Pulseaudio is a GOOD thing, I don't know if you remember dmix before > pulseaudio, but it was a > wonder if you could make it work on more than 1 card. Just because it worked > on your own card > was no guarantee that it worked on anyone else's. > > And before that it was even worse, and you had to configure dmix manually, in > an attempt to get > sound from multiple programs at the same time, or use esound or artsd.. > of course they were not compatible with each other. > > The work on pulseaudio forced consistency and made sound work a lot better on > linux out of the box. > I remember life before pulseaudio, and I don't miss it. I don't want to > restart a program just to make > it detect a headset I plugged in. Or restart because I unplugged it (if the > program doesn't crash already). I never got dmix to work at all. PA made multiple simultaneous sound sources possible for me, and ended my Flash audio issues. After some early flakiness (pre 2.0), it has been very stable as well. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFoWM=-Q2WAECZ2C0YeyOFG�xnaj_oagtyzfyme5uf+os...@mail.gmail.com
Re: debian on nokia N93i
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 05:13, ..Blue...Genea.. wrote: > Good day, > Please if you have information provided can be installed on Nokia N93 > with Symbian OS 9.1, S60 3rd edition, a version of Linux. > > thank you for the advice! I am not a Debian Developer, but I have never heard of Linux being installed on a Nokia phone other than the N900, the N9 and the N950 (all designed for running Linux). The N93 uses an ARM11 cpu, which is rather weak for running Linux, and even if you got basics working, I am sure that the drivers are not there to make it really functional (e.g. able to make phone calls). Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFoWM=_VQsf1Rr=nhjzscfzvs5-798zm3vttzrdhgvtudms...@mail.gmail.com
Re: /tmp as tmpfs and consequence for imaging software
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 05:55, John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell wrote: > > 3) Whether 1.2G is or is not in a directory is a mute Question and argument. it is a moot question, not mute Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFoWM=8-+sy5ncm89pyybujt2_rktn4_5mssg8axwf7_jo2...@mail.gmail.com
Re: (seemingly) declinging bug report numbers
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 12:40 AM, Christian PERRIER wrote: > > For sure, this kind of "decline" is not that visible. We still have > new contributors, we still manage to do releases, we still have an > ever growing number of packages. But, we have less bug reports. We have > partly abandoned packages, including in the "core" of the > distribution. We have an installer that has just been "rescued" by > nearly a "one-man" effort. And I probably forget many other examples. > > This is sometimes hidden by the incredible work and investment of > several people in the project (yes, that's probably mean whoever is > reading this). > > But, still, yes, I feel we are in danger in some way. That may sound alarming > (death of Debian predicted, film at 11), but, really, getting new > blood is important for usif we don't want to shrink into a club of > old chaps who are doing Debian "just for their needs" but can't manage > to do it anymore because there is too much to do..:-). > A thread like this really makes me feel bad personally. I am no real programmer, but I am a power user for sure, and on my way to being a sysadmin. But I basically never report bugs. I have used Sid for years, and in fact I often don't notice bugs in my personal workflow (maybe if I can think of myself as a user? I notice end-user-impacting bugs in other areas). If someone comes over and sees me working the might say, "wow that is an annoying bug" and I say "what bug? Oh that. I didn't notice, I just worked around it." Even with bugs I do notice, I usually just ignore and work around until it is fixed. I guess it is a combo of never having gotten comfortable with the bug report workflow and never feeling like I could go deep enough into debugging to be very useful (I have gotten useful info out of gdb maybe twice over the years). Now I am just in a habit of not doing it. Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFoWM=-m_bpbsc4krvfdwzt3+0o3_fwx7wyeppn_9yb-_ok...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: > > BTW, if systemd is a good design, why does it rely so heavily on > socket-based activation, which has fundamentally unmaintainable security? Please excuse the intrusion of a mere user, but I haven't heard that one yet, can you elaborate? Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFoWM=_0YhxEEpp6CgptZKzEeC=8w=2=+sx8chni80zn7ho...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Salvo Tomaselli wrote: > On Thursday 15 November 2012 00.57.50 John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> People are constantly insisting that systemd is too bloated or unreliable, >> but yet no one has really come up with real examples to prove that. > > Hum, actually when i tried it, i couldn't halt or reboot my machine without an > hard reset. I suppose that is a real example of bloated? > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=661239 That would be unreliable, not bloated. Bloated could mean a number of things, roughly: Does too many things, links to too many libraries, takes up too much memory, disk space or possibly CPU time for what it does. Pretty much always a value judgement at some level. Clearly all interrelated, but nothing (directly) to do with unreliable. Doing a lot without good enough QC could lead to unreliability, but it doesn't have to. And code can be unreliable while being very tight and compact - though it should decrease the likelihood. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFoWM=92e1wXvvwgv4LjnSrg6OdRy5=hszfp_3p2d889rfk...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Canonical pushes upstart into user session - systemd developer complains
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 7:23 AM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > And interfaces in various programming languages? http://docs.python.org/2/library/configparser.html http://search.cpan.org/~shlomif/Config-IniFiles-2.78/lib/Config/IniFiles.pm https://rubygems.org/gems/inifile http://ini4j.sourceforge.net/ https://github.com/2ion/ini.lua https://code.google.com/p/inih/ https://github.com/shockie/node-iniparser http://php.net/manual/en/function.parse-ini-file.php http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/10809/A-Small-Class-to-Read-INI-File http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_45_0/doc/html/property_tree.html http://doc.qt.digia.com/qt/qsettings.html > And command-line tools? An editor with syntax highlighting? Other than that, I don't know of any, but do you really need it with ini? For a specific purpose, you could probably whip something up pretty fast with one of the libraries... >The advantage of XML is that it is more common. [citation needed] ini is pretty darn common... I would guess that they might be about the same. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFoWM=_wgjpuuekj+g23x--g3njffpjwmybotk+e_-wtyrm...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Back to technical discussion? Yes! (was: network-manager as default? No!)
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 07:29, Sune Vuorela wrote: >> I do not think that reading documentation before trying to achieve >> something is that elitist. And in the case of wpa_supplicant, it is >> definitely not dozens of pages. Basically, it is just >> >> man interfaces >> man wpa_supplicant.conf >> zless /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian.gz > > I don't consider myself 'stupid user', but I haven't yet been able to > put my laptop on wpa network without the use of network manager. I never did get nm or wicd to work. Only with ifupdown+wpa_supplicant was I able to make WiFi work. This was with an ordinary home router with WPA2 PSK and an Atheros PCIe NIC This possibly explains why you will never see me supporting nm/wicd as a default. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktim51nc4rpdxewhwdqdgvekszqp...@mail.gmail.com
