Re: What would help the most?

2023-10-30 Thread Imre Nagy

Hmm ...

I did not go deep into this situation, but if you would like to traing 
an agent and/or whatever, most likely you need a valid email address to 
post to a list.

If this is an agent, it is trained to (by the emails before)
- use/mimic older members address to show credentibility
- collect and parse repliers name so the email can be personalized.

These lower your guards.

I think all information can be gathered from the mailing-list public 
archive. So if Syzbalski does not pop up and say, "hey guys, I was drunk 
and texted to my ex and debian lists", I am still considering this being 
a AI training.


Best regars,
Imre

2023. 10. 30. 8:52 keltezéssel, Tino Didriksen írta:
That was also my initial reaction - so much so that I discarded the 
original email as Spam, because it hit all the factors in my head. But 
given other people took it seriously, I looked into whether 
szybal...@gmail.com has been active before, and sure enough there are 
mails going back more than a decade.


So evidence would say it's not spam, but still a bizarre set of mails.

-- Tino Didriksen


On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 at 07:03,  wrote:

Hi,

I have the feeling, that this is some kind of semi-AI generated chat.
I think we should stop it now.

Imre, Nagy

2023. 10. 30. 2:29 keltezéssel, Lukasz Szybalski írta:


On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 3:41 AM Paul Wise  wrote:

On Fri, 2023-10-27 at 14:00 -0500, Lukasz Szybalski wrote:

> What is the minimum most value thing that would
> help YOU accomplish your goals for Debian ?

Check out this page if no-one gives anything more specific:

https://www.debian.org/intro/help


Paul, Marc, Andrey
Thanks for replying.


To narrow it down:

*Vision of Debian:*
Create a free operating system, freely available for everyone.

*Goal:*
Coding and Maintaining Packages <https://www.debian.org/intro/help>
Testing and Bug Squashing <https://www.debian.org/intro/help>

/In these 2 goals:/
What is the minimum most valuable thing that would help YOU
accomplish your goals for Debian ?


Thanks
Lucas


Re: BinUtils /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL

2020-11-11 Thread Imre, Nagy

Hi Timothy,

This link might be useful for you: 
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18406369/qt-cant-find-lgl-error


Please keep in mind, that this is more a Qt related question, thus you 
would get correct answers faster on specific Qt forums and mailing lists.
Also, please try to use google first, since the the chance that your 
question would be answered would be higher if you show that you put the 
necesseary effort to find the answer.


Best regards,
Imre

On 2020.11.11. 18:31, Timothy M Butterworth wrote:

All,

I'm trying to built software with Qt Creator and I get the following
error message /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL. I'm running Debian 10
with KDE fully patched to the latest point release.

Timothy M Butterworth





Re: looking for debian friendly web app technology

2022-12-12 Thread Imre Nagy

Hi,

What do we think about "accessibility" in this thread? The MSAA like 
helping for visually challenged, or the global avaiblity (and 
acceptance) of QT?


As of Qt 5.15, (and Qt 6.4.x lately) you do not have to make the hard 
choice between responsive webpage or desktop application, since you can 
generate both from the same QT source code. The native is native, the 
browser based using WebAssembly technology. (I think MSAA is not yet 
supported for WebAssembly till this date, but please double check this 
information!)


The downside of these things, that current Debian does not seem to 
include Qt6 at all and I have no idea when it can go into the mainstream 
Debian, while there are a lot of project could be waiting for it. (Even 
my one is still pending for Debian). Qt6 for Debian is still in 
unstable/experimental state, which drives the developers like me to find 
other alternatives instead of Debian or for Debian.


Best regards,
Imre

2022. 12. 13. 1:48 keltezéssel, Sam Hartman írta:

I wrote too early sry. A desktop app is also possible. I will use qt.
Thanks for your time.


QT accessibility has improved a lot, but I suspect that a single page
web app with vuejs and a good widget set on top of that is going to be
more accessible than a QT app even today.
I find I stumble less with web app accessibility than I do with linux
desktop accessibility, although both are usable.






Re: looking for debian friendly web app technology

2022-12-13 Thread Imre Nagy

Hi Timothy,

I understand that, but 2 years from now Qt would be around 6.8-6.9 ... 
possible Qt7?

So I start to have doubt that Debian could ever catch up.
Although you are right, that _I_ can install Qt6 from sources, but I 
cannot expect that from all my users. They just want to use it.


So I am a bit disappointed with this now, although I would like to pay 
my respect and send kudos for all Debian people, since they are doing an 
enormous job.


I.

2022. 12. 13. 14:08 keltezéssel, Timothy M Butterworth írta:



On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 12:51 AM Imre Nagy  wrote:

Hi,

What do we think about "accessibility" in this thread? The MSAA like
helping for visually challenged, or the global avaiblity (and
acceptance) of QT?

As of Qt 5.15, (and Qt 6.4.x lately) you do not have to make the hard
choice between responsive webpage or desktop application, since
you can
generate both from the same QT source code. The native is native, the
browser based using WebAssembly technology. (I think MSAA is not yet
supported for WebAssembly till this date, but please double check
this
information!)

The downside of these things, that current Debian does not seem to
include Qt6 at all and I have no idea when it can go into the
mainstream
Debian, while there are a lot of project could be waiting for it.
(Even
my one is still pending for Debian). Qt6 for Debian is still in
unstable/experimental state, which drives the developers like me
to find
other alternatives instead of Debian or for Debian.

Qt 6 will not be in debian until debin 13. Bookworm will still have Qt 
5 and KDE 5. You can manually download and install Qt6 on Debian. If 
you target Debian 13 for inclusion of your app that will give you 
about two years to finish it.


Best regards,
Imre

2022. 12. 13. 1:48 keltezéssel, Sam Hartman írta:
>> I wrote too early sry. A desktop app is also possible. I will
use qt.
>> Thanks for your time.
>
> QT accessibility has improved a lot, but I suspect that a single
page
> web app with vuejs and a good widget set on top of that is going
to be
> more accessible than a QT app even today.
> I find I stumble less with web app accessibility than I do with
linux
> desktop accessibility, although both are usable.
>
>



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