Re: A localisation success: French po-debconf translations briefly reached a full "virtual" 100%

2004-10-27 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Il mer, 2004-10-27 alle 09:08, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder ha
scritto:
> Jujst wondering: hor much of this is automated, and how much do I need to do 
> manually as package maintainer?
> 
> Obviously, translation of the package itself will always be a manual task.  
> But does anything warn me (linda/lintian?) when I update debconf templates 
> and/or package descriptions and forget to post to debian-i18n? (which would 
> be: it should always warn, unless you build the AI to detect when I have 
> posted to the mailing list :-)

I wrote some months ago a little perl script to do this. I also filed a 
bug against po-debconf asking to include it (see #257125), but the 
maintainer hasn't done it yet. 

Yes, I know it isn't fully tested, and it can be improved, but IMHO 
it's useful and usable and I'd like to see it in po-debconf package. :)

Fabio.

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ITP: zope-cmfarchetypes -- A developers framework for rapidly developing and deploying rich, full featured content types

2004-10-31 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Package: wnpp
Severity: whishlist

* Package name: zope-cmfarchetypes
  Version : 1.2.5-rc5
  Upstream Author : Archetypes Development Team
   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://voxel.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/
archetypes/Archetypes-1.2.5-rc5.tar.gz
* License : GPL
  Description : A developers framework for rapidly developing 
and deploying rich, full featured content types

Formerly known as CMFTypes, Archetypes is a developers framework
 for rapidly developing and deploying rich, full featured content
 types within the context of Zope/CMF and Plone.
 .
 Archetypes is based around the idea of an _Active Schema_. Rather
 than provide a simple description of a new data type Archetype
 schemas do the actual work and heavy lifting involved in using
 the new type. Archetype Schemas serve as easy extension points
 for other developers as project specific components can be
 created and bound or you can choose among the rich existing set
 of features.
 .
 Features
 * Simple schemas with working default policy.
 * Power and flexibility with lowered incidental complexity.
 * Integration with rich content sources such as Office Product Suites.
 * Full automatic form generation
 * i18n content on a field basis
 .
 Homepage: http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/archetypes

This source package will generate the following binary packages:
 * zope-cmfarchetypes
 * zope-cmftransforms
 * zope-generator
 * zope-validation

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ITP: zope-cmactionicons -- Zope form validation for CMF and Plone

2004-10-31 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Package: wnpp
Severity: whishlist

* Package name: zope-cmfactionicons
  Version : 0.9
  Upstream Author : Tres Seaver, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://zope.org/Members/tseaver/CMFActionIcons/
CMFActionIcons-0.9/CMFActionIcons-0.9.tar.gz
* License : ZPL 1.0
  Description : Actions and icons add-on for Zope Content Management
Framework

This product is a add-on for the Zope Content Management Framework
(CMF). It should be useful with Plone, CPS, and other CMF-derived
extensions, as well.

The product provides:
 * A new tool, portal_actionicons, which serves as a registry 
   mapping object actions (using category and action ID) to a
   descriptive title, a priority, and an icon ID. The tool
   post-processes a set of actions (i.e., those generated by 
   the portal_actions tool), decorating them with additional
   information, and sorting them according to priority.

 * ZPT macros which build either horizontal or vertical icon 
   bars for a set of actions.

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ITP: zope-cmformcontroller -- Zope form validation for CMF and Plone

2004-10-31 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Package: wnpp
Severity: whishlist

* Package name: zope-cmfformcontroller
  Version : 1.0.3
  Upstream Author : Geoff Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://voxel.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/
collective/CMFFormController-1.0.3-beta.tar.gz
* License : Free custom license
  Description : Zope form validation for CMF and Plone

CMFFormController replaces the portal_form form validation
mechanism from Plone.  It should work just fine in plain CMF as
well.

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ITP: zope-cmfquickinstallertool -- Zope add-on to easy install CMF/Plone products.

2004-10-31 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Package: wnpp
Severity: whishlist

* Package name: zope-cmfquickinstallertool
  Version : 1.5.0
  Upstream Author : Philipp Auersperg (phil at bluedynamics.com)
* URL : http://voxel.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/
collective/CMFQuickInstallerTool-1.5.0.tgz
* License : GPL
  Description : Zope add-on to easy install CMF/Plone products.

CMFQuickInstaller is a Zope add-on to make easy to install CMF/Plone
products.

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ITP: zope-plonetranslations -- Translation files for Plone 2.0

2004-10-31 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Package: wnpp
Severity: whishlist

* Package name: zope-plonetranslations
  Version : 0.5
  Upstream Author : Jodok Batlogg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://dev.clearwind.ca/Files/Plone/
Nightly/PloneTranslations-0.5.tar.gz
* License : GPL
  Description : Translation files for Plone 2.0

This product contains the translation files for Plone 2.0.

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ITP: zope-ploneerrorreporting -- Error Reporting Tool for Plone 2.0

2004-10-31 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Package: wnpp
Severity: whishlist

* Package name: zope-ploneerrorreporting
  Version : 0.11
  Upstream Author : Geoff Davis 
* URL : http://voxel.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/
collective/PloneErrorReporting-0.11.tar.gz
* License : GPL
  Description : Error Reporting Tool for Plone 2.0

The plone error reporting tools helps the site manager to post bug
reports more easily.

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ITP: zope-pts -- Placeless Translation Service for Zope

2004-10-31 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Package: wnpp
Severity: whishlist

* Package name: zope-pts
  Version : 1.0-rc8
  Upstream Author : Jodok Batlogg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://voxel.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/
collective/PlacelessTranslationService-1.0-rc8.
tar.gz
* License : GPL
  Description : Placeless Translation Service for Zope

PTS is a way of internationalizing (i18n'ing) and localizing (l10n'ing)
software for Zope 2. It's based on the files supported by the GNU
gettext set of utilities.

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Re: ITP: zope-plonetranslations -- Translation files for Plone 2.0

2004-11-02 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Il giorno mar, 02-11-2004 alle 13:32 +0100, Igor Stroh ha scritto:
> IIRC plonetranslations and ploneerrorreporting depend
> on plone >= 2.0 which is not part of Debian yet. Plone 2.0
> however depends on CMF1.4 t which still has to be packaged
> as well...

Hi Igor, 
  I'm also packaging plone 2.0.4 and CMF 1.4. This is why 
I've filed some zope-* ITPs: all these packages are required 
by plone 2.0.4.

Thanks,
Fabio.

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Bug#299023: ITP: zope-common -- common settings and scripts for zope installations

2005-03-11 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Fabio Tranchitella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: zope-common
  Version : 0.5
  Upstream Author : Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/zope/
* License : GPL
  Description : common settings and scripts for zope installations

The package contains common settings and scripts for zope installations.

-- System Information:
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  APT prefers testing
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Bug#299024: ITP: dh-zope -- debhelper script for zope packaging

2005-03-11 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Fabio Tranchitella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: zope-debhelper
  Version : 0.3
  Upstream Author : Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://people.ubuntu.org/~doko/zope/
* License : GPL
  Description : debhelper script for zope packaging

The package contains the dh_installzope debhelper script used
for zope packaging tasks.

-- System Information:
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  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (500, 'testing')
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Re: Bug#299024: ITP: dh-zope -- debhelper script for zope packaging

2005-03-11 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Il giorno ven, 11-03-2005 alle 10:57 +0100, Igor Stroh ha scritto:
> > * URL : http://people.ubuntu.org/~doko/zope/
> I'm pretty sure you mean people.ubuntu.com :)

Yes, I've mistyped it.
Thanks for pointing this out,

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Re: Bug#353777: ITP: multixterm -- drive multiple xterms separately or together

2006-02-21 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Il giorno mar, 21/02/2006 alle 09.44 +, David Pashley ha scritto:
> >  Typing in the stdin window while holding down the alt or meta keys sends an
> >  escape character before the typed characters. This provides support for
> >  programs such as emacs.
> > 
> Why would I want to use this? I now know how to use it, but I am still
> none the wiser as to what I could do with it.

I'm not sure, but for example it could be useful for the maintenance of
a set of debian-based cluster nodes.

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Re: advice on a patch set

2005-01-26 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Il giorno mer, 26-01-2005 alle 17:17 +0100, martin f krafft ha scritto:
> Hi all,
> 
> I am trying to package the swsusp2 kernel patch, which comes in
> hundred little files. 

Hi Martin, why don't you apply all the patches to a clean kernel source
tree, and then diff that source tree from the original one?

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debhelper and debian/config.debhelper

2005-03-26 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Dear developers,
  I'm writing a debhelper script for zope packaging and I need to
add very similar config script to the packages created with it.
Actually, I'm using a common package (zope-common) with common
templates which I'm using with db_register and db_subst, and a 
debhelper package (dh-zope) which provides dh_installzopeinstance 
and some autoscripts.

  Everything works well, but I can't have debian/config.debhelper
handled neither by dh_installdeb or dh_installdebconf. The former
only handles {pre,post}{inst,rm}.debhelper and the latter just
copy debian/config into $tmp/DEBIAN/config.

Why #DEBHELPER# substitution isn't implemented for config file?
How can I handle this?

Thanks for your answers,

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Re: debhelper and debian/config.debhelper

2005-03-27 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 09:30:45PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> File a wishlist bug report. It's not particularly hard to write the
> necessary patches, although not trivial enough for me to do before
> replying to this email.

I have just done it (#301657).

Thanks,
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Hungary (Pecs and Budapest), meeting and key signing

2005-05-31 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Hello,
  I will be in Hungary from Saturday 4 to Sunday 12 June, mainly in
Pecs except one day in Budapest, but I don't know yet which day will 
be. If someone is there and has some spare time, let me know. :)

Thanks,

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Re: Is Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis MIA?

2005-06-07 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Hi Roberto,

On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 at 23:52 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> I am wondering what the deal is with Luca and his packages,
> specifically httperf.
> 
> [snip]
> 
> Just wondering what, if anything, should be done.  Personally, I would
> be willing to adopt httperf because I would like to see the bugs fixed.

Someone told me a few weeks ago that he is interested in coming back and 
start again working on his packages. I doubt that this will really happen,
and if nobody object the Debian Zope Team will take over his zope packages
in a few days. All in all, if he's interested in coming back he could join
the team, too.

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Re: Is Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis MIA?

2005-06-08 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> Recalling his packages in the past, I get a different opinion.

I can't define your email polite, and I have to admin that this list 
is often far from being friendly. I really don't know what you could 
get sending this type of email on this *development* list, and I mean 
personal opinion on the work done by someone who actually isn't in here
to give you replies.

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Bug#314590: ITP: zopex3 -- open source web application server (X3 branch)

2005-06-17 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Debian Zope team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: zope2.8
  Version : 2.8.0
  Upstream Author : Zope Community
* URL : http://www.zope.org/
* License : ZPL 2.0
  Description : open source web application server (2.8 branch)

Zope enables teams to collaborate in the creation and management of
ynamic web-based business applications such as intra-nets and
portals. Zope makes it easy to build features such as site search,
news, personalisation, and e-commerce into your web applications.

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Architecture: i386 (i686)
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Bug#314589: ITP: zope2.8 -- open source web application server (2.8 branch)

2005-06-17 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Debian Zope team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: zope2.8
  Version : 2.8.0
  Upstream Author : Zope Community
* URL : http://www.zope.org/
* License : ZPL 2.0
  Description : open source web application server (2.8 branch)

Zope enables teams to collaborate in the creation and management of
ynamic web-based business applications such as intra-nets and
portals. Zope makes it easy to build features such as site search,
news, personalisation, and e-commerce into your web applications.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 3.1
Architecture: i386 (i686)
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Re: Bug#314590: ITP: zopex3 -- open source web application server (X3 branch)

2005-06-17 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 at 11:58 +0200, Fabio Tranchitella wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: Debian Zope team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> * Package name: zope2.8
>   Version : 2.8.0
>   Description : open source web application server (2.8 branch)

Damn, I meant zopex3 and 3.0.0 ... 

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Tracking differences between Ubuntu and Debian for a set of packages

2006-09-18 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Hello,

  I've written a small-and-easy script to track the differences for a
given set of packages between Debian and Ubuntu. We (as Debian/Ubuntu
Zope Team) use it to coordinate syncs, but it could be useful to other
developers too.

  http://people.debian.org/~kobold/ubuntu-diff/

  If you'd like to have new sets of packages included, eventually
tracking different distributions (eg. testing / ubuntu) drop me an
email.

Have a nice day,

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Re: Tracking differences between Ubuntu and Debian for a set ofpackages

2006-09-20 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Il giorno mar, 19/09/2006 alle 20.51 +0200, Daniel Baumann ha scritto:
> Hi,
> 
> looks very nice.. do you mind publishing the source?

It is on gluck.debian.org, within my home directory, or here:

http://people.debian.org/~kobold/ubuntu-diff/bin/

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Re: Tracking differences between Ubuntu and Debian for a set ofpackages

2006-09-20 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Il giorno mer, 20/09/2006 alle 10.31 +0200, Daniel Baumann ha scritto:
> I know I could get it from gluck, but I wanted to be kind and ask before
> I take it.
> 
> Thanks a lot, very well done. I'll modify it so that I can track
> differences between backports and etch, to keep my backports easier
> uptodate.

Fine, that's another good use case. Could you please put it somewhere
public? We could have a common area for these "track the differences
between distributions" tools?

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Bug#361837: ITP: zope-cmfcontentpanels -- plone portlets product to build composite pages

2006-04-10 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Fabio Tranchitella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: zope-cmfcontentpanels
  Version : 2.3
  Upstream Author : Pan Junyong 
* URL : http://www.zopechina.com/products/CMFContentPanels
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: Python / Zope / Plone
  Description : plone portlets product to build composite pages

CMFContentPanels is a plone portlets product to build composite pages.
You can create new content which is composed of othr contents as
configurable 'content panels'. You can change the layout, the panel skin
and the content viewlet through the web.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (990, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.14-2-686-smp
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Self-conflicts and self-depends

2006-07-24 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Hello,

  I've noticed that some packages conflict or depend on themself. As far
as I know, this makes no sense and the dependency (of conflict) should
be removed, but I prefer to ask here before filing useless bug reports.

This is a list of the packages:

avr-libc:
  Conflicts on avr-libc ( )

ctsim:
  Conflicts on ctsim ( )

doodle:
  Conflicts on doodle (<< 0.6.2-1)

eclipse-common-nls:
  Conflicts on eclipse-common-nls (<= 3.1.1a-5)

exim4-config:
  Conflicts on exim4-config ( )

giflib-bin:
  Conflicts on giflib-bin ( )

kernel-patch-kdb:
  Conflicts on kernel-patch-kdb ( )

lib3ds-dev:
  Conflicts on lib3ds-dev ( )

libbonobo2:
  Depends on libbonobo2 (>= 1.0.22)

libc6-dev:
  Conflicts on libc6-dev (<< 2.0.110-1)

libdb4.4++:
  Conflicts on libdb4.4++ ( )

libdnet:
  Depends on libdnet ( )

libgail-common:
  Depends on libgail-common (>= 1.6.6)

libglide2:
  Conflicts on libglide2 ( )

libglide3:
  Conflicts on libglide3 ( )

libopencdk8-dev:
  Conflicts on libopencdk8-dev ( )

libopenh323-dev:
  Conflicts on libopenh323-dev ( )

libperl6-form-perl:
  Conflicts on libperl6-form-perl ( )

libstatgrab-dev:
  Conflicts on libstatgrab-dev (<< 0.12-1)

python-gnome2-desktop-doc:
  Conflicts on python-gnome2-desktop-doc (<< 2.13.3)

python2.3-apoo:
  Conflicts on python2.3-apoo ( )

python2.4-apoo:
  Conflicts on python2.4-apoo ( )

sylpheed-claws-gtk2-etpan-privacy:
  Conflicts on sylpheed-claws-gtk2-etpan-privacy (<< 2.3.0-1)

sylpheed-claws-gtk2-perl-filter:
  Conflicts on sylpheed-claws-gtk2-perl-filter (<< 2.3.0-1)

sylpheed-claws-gtk2-vcalendar-plugin:
  Conflicts on sylpheed-claws-gtk2-vcalendar-plugin (<< 2.3.0-1)

tasksel-data:
  Conflicts on tasksel-data ( )

unison:
  Conflicts on unison (<< 2.9.1-3)

unison-gtk:
  Conflicts on unison-gtk (<< 2.9.1-3)


Do anybody has an exaplanation of why these relationship should not be
removed?

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Re: Self-conflicts and self-depends

2006-07-25 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Il giorno lun, 24/07/2006 alle 23.22 +0200, Jan C. Nordholz ha scritto:
> > unison:
> >   Conflicts on unison (<< 2.9.1-3)
> 
> I guess this is meant to prevent older versions of unison and unison2.9.1
> (which Provides: unison) from being installed together (the same holds
> for unison-gtk).

If unison2.9.1 conflicts with unison and provides unison, that is enough
and there is no need for unison to conflict with himself.

Il giorno lun, 24/07/2006 alle 23.22 +0100, martin f krafft ha scritto: 
> An upgrade is the same as removing the old and installing the new
> package, so other than maintainer script invocations (which will
> differ if the old package was removed because of a conflict),
> I don't see a difference. Of course, dpkg wouldn't let you a package
> if it created a conflict, so yeah... no point...

If nobody disagree, I'll start filing bug reports for the packages
listed in the first email of the thread and I'll bug lintian to add a
check for this case.

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Re: Self-conflicts and self-depends

2006-07-26 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Il giorno mar, 25/07/2006 alle 18.10 -0700, Russ Allbery ha scritto:
> So, are people sure this is not useful even if the package name doubles as
> a virtual package?  It seems to me like it would be.  Or are people just
> arguing that that case will never occur?

Conflicts on virtual packages assure that two real packages providing
the virtual one can't be installed togheter, so let's say:

A: provides D; conflicts D
B: provides D; conflicts D

It is not possible to install both pkg A and pkg B because both provide
pkg D and the other package conflicts with it. If we replace D with A,
and remove the self-conflicts/self-provides, the situation would be:

A: nothing;
B: provides A; conflicts A

... which produces the same result, because you can't install both A and
B because B conflicts with (the real package) A.

For me, self-conflicts make no sense in every situation.

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Re: Self-conflicts and self-depends

2006-07-26 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Il giorno mer, 26/07/2006 alle 16.48 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow ha
scritto:
> > Conflicts on virtual packages assure that two real packages providing
> > the virtual one can't be installed togheter, so let's say:
> >
> > A: provides D; conflicts D
> > B: provides D; conflicts D
> >
> > It is not possible to install both pkg A and pkg B because both provide
> > pkg D and the other package conflicts with it. If we replace D with A,
> > and remove the self-conflicts/self-provides, the situation would be:
> >
> > A: nothing;
> > B: provides A; conflicts A
> >
> > ... which produces the same result, because you can't install both A and
> > B because B conflicts with (the real package) A.
> >
> > For me, self-conflicts make no sense in every situation.
> 
> Say your "A" package gets renamed to (or is named) "D". "D" then still
> has to conflict "D" so "B" can't be installed in
> parallel. exim4-config is an example of such a case.

I don't understand if you talk about my first example or about the
second one. 

If it is the first, then D doesn't need to conflict on itself: it won't
be installable because "B" already conflicts with it. 

I don't see neither why exim4-config is an example of such a case: there
are no packages in the archive which provides exim4-config, and even if
they would exists, they would conflict with exim4-config so they won't
be installable in parallel.

The conflict work also if just one of the two involved packages declares
the conflict, or not?

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Re: Self-conflicts and self-depends

2006-07-26 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Il giorno gio, 27/07/2006 alle 00.22 +1000, Hamish Moffatt ha scritto:
> Now extend for more than two packages. Should each package list every
> other, require every package to be updated when another is added?
> 
> Instead they can all provide and conflict a common virtual package.

It is ok to conflict on a common virtual package, but I don't see the
point for a package conflicting with itself. If there are other packages
which provide it, then it's up to them to conflict with the real one and
we are not talking about **virtual** packages anymore.

Another example:

 * foo
 * foo-extended: provides foo, conflicts foo;
 * foo-extended-nosql: provides foo, conflicts foo;

Is it really needed for foo to conflict with itself to have foo-extended
or foo-extended-nosql uninstallable in parallel with it? Aren't their
conflicts enough?

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Re: Self-conflicts and self-depends

2006-07-26 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
On mer, 26 lug 2006, Russ Allbery wrote:
> However, I don't see how the self-conflicts *hurts* anything, and some
> people are currently using this technique, probably because it's easier to
> remember to always have the Conflits.  So what are we gaining by adding a
> check for this and making people change it?  Is there a problem here that
> we're solving?  (Like, for instance, is this making dpkg or other package
> tools more complicated in ways that getting rid of it would let us fix?)

Yes, is making my life harder dealing with conflicts in britney.
Oh, nothing that we can't skip with an if block, but you asked. :)

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Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-07-28 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Il giorno ven, 28/07/2006 alle 17.37 +0100, Matthew Garrett ha scritto:
> That's not actually true. I do a lot of work in Ubuntu to add extra 
> hardware support. All the code gets pushed upstream so will end up in 
> Debian too, but Ubuntu's lack of a concept of package ownership makes it 
> massively easier to do integration work - rather than filing half a 
> dozen bugs and having to chase people up, I can just upload the 
> packages. Given the amount of time I currently have available to me, I 
> tend to choose the latter. If Debian had slightly less of a culture of 
> "Keep your hands off my package", I'd do it here instead.

If you need to apply a patch to one of my packages for a
non-critical bug in order to complete an integration work, please send
me the patch by BTS and if I do not reply in a few days feel free to
upload an NMU.

How many Debian maintainers think the same? I'm sure there are a lot
of them who do not soffer of the "this is my package, go away" syndrome.

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Re: Czech translation of po-debconf templates completed

2005-08-18 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Il giorno gio, 18/08/2005 alle 10.38 +0200, Marc Haber ha scritto:
> As for changing the templates, are there automatisms in place to fire
> off e-mails to the translators and their mailing lists to inform them
> of changed templates?

Sure, have a look at podebconf-report-po (from po-debconf package).

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Re: Unnecessary "Conflicts" with imap-server packages

2005-08-29 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Il giorno lun, 29/08/2005 alle 12.16 +0200, Olaf van der Spek ha
scritto:
> It's not solved.
> There are still daemons that conflict with eachother 'just' because
> they wish to listen on the same port or use the same directories (by
> default).

Which makes no sense, and I think this is an abuse of Conflicts field.
Having a package installed doesn't mean the corresponding service is
started.

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Re: Unnecessary "Conflicts" with imap-server packages

2005-08-29 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
On lun, 29 ago 2005, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Fabio Tranchitella wrote:
> > Having a package installed doesn't mean the corresponding service is
> > started.
> 
> If I install something then I want it installed, configured and
> running.
> 
> I think you are asking for another type of action for APT.  Currently
> APT has two types of remove.  You can remove leaving configuration
> files or you can purge taking off the configuration files too.  I
> think you are asking for a new type of install target where a package
> is only partially installed.  I could see the utility of that but
> there is no support for it in the code at this moment.

No, I meant that if I have to switch my mail server from $imapserver1 to
$imapserver2, I would prefer to have both imapservers fully installed and 
running, for example on two different ports. There is no need for them to 
conflicts one with each other, this is annoying and I think it is an abuse 
of the Conflicts field, which in my opinion means "you can't install both 
packages because (for example) they installs the same files" and not 
"you can't install both packages because it is not common to have both 
installed, even if it is possible".

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Bug#337929: ITP: zope-plonetestcase -- unit testing framework and test case for Plone

2005-11-07 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Fabio Tranchitella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: zope-plonetestcase
  Version : 0.7
  Upstream Author : Stefan H. Holek, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://zope.org/Members/shh/PloneTestCase
* License : ZPL
  Description : unit testing framework and test case for Plone

PloneTestCase is a thin layer on top of the ZopeTestCase package.
It has been developed to simplify testing of Plone-based applications
and products.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (990, 'unstable'), (500, 'experimental'), (500, 'testing'), (500, 
'stable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.12-1-686-smp
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Bug#337931: ITP: zope-cmfmember -- advanced members management for Plone sites

2005-11-07 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
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* Package name: zope-cmfmember
  Version : 1.1b5
  Upstream Author : Ben Saller (bcsaller), Jonah (MrEnoch), Geoff Davis (geoffd 
/ plonista)
* URL : http://plone.org/products/cmfmember
* License : ZPL
  Description : advanced members management for Plone sites

CMFMember is a replacement for portal_memberdata that provides TTP
(Through-The-Plone) member management. Members are ordinary Archetypes
(AT) objects that are controlled by workflow. Member data can be
expanded and configured via an AT schema (or via subclassing).

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (990, 'unstable'), (500, 'experimental'), (500, 'testing'), (500, 
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Architecture: i386 (i686)
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Bug#337932: ITP: zope-atseng -- framework to provide flexible schema editing for AT content-types

2005-11-07 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
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* Package name: zope-atseng
  Version : 0.3.2
  Upstream Author : Andreas Jung, Rob Miller (rafrombrc)
* URL : http://plone.org/products/atseng/
* License : LGPL
  Description : framework to provide flexible schema editing for AT 
content-types

ATSchemaEditorNG provides a means of allowing through the web (TTW) management 
of 
Archetypes schemas. Features include:
 * containment- or tool-based schema management
 * different schemas for the same content type in different locations
 * hooks for add TTW support for custom fields, widgets, or storages
 * hooks for extending the editor UI to supply custom attributes to fields
 * schema caching for performance

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (990, 'unstable'), (500, 'experimental'), (500, 'testing'), (500, 
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Architecture: i386 (i686)
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Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
* 2007-04-12 11:29, Joey Hess wrote:
> I wonder if it would be reasonable to make d-i hit one of two urls
> depending on whether the user chose to enable popcon, and count the
> results.

Isn't this a violation of user's privacy? If the user hitted `No', this
really means that he doesn't want to call home.

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Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
* 2007-04-12 12:09, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> As long as we don't use that to collect sensitive information, it would be
> ok IMO. (Of course, a preseed question could avoid it completely too)

I think Google Earth for Linux does the same, and IIRC the general
agreement in the free software community was that it is a evil behavior.

I may be wrong, I don't know, but in my opinion a ping to call back home
even if the user said `No' is a evil behaviour and Debian should avoid it.

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Can a package modify slapd.conf in its maintainer script?

2008-08-10 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Hello all,

I need some help regarding #493781: the submitter reported the bug as grave
because he thinks that modifying slapd.conf to include an extra LDAP schema
from the maintainer scripts of a package (phamm-ldap in this case) is
against the Debian policy.

Considering that slapd.conf is not (anymore) a conffile, in my opinion this
behaviour is not forbidden from the Debian policy and thus the bug report
could be closed without any change to the phamm-ldap package.

Of course, having an official way from the slapd package to add new schemas
would be wonderful, but until this feature is added I think that this is
the only possibility to automatically include a new schema in slapd.conf.

Opinions?

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Re: Can a package modify slapd.conf in its maintainer script?

2008-08-10 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
* 2008-08-10 21:09, Carsten Hey wrote:
> | 11.7.4 Sharing configuration files
> |
> | ...
> |
> | The maintainer scripts must not alter a conffile of any package,
> | including the one the scripts belong to.
> 
> It is not a conffile, so this is not a problem.

This is the exact sentence which keeps me thinking that this is not an RC
bug, or maybe not a bug at all until slapd does provide a script for
handling updates.

> The whole procedure *should* be done, so this is not a must.  Is there
> a valid reason in this particular circumstance to ignore the
> recommendation of the policy?

The package slapd doesn't provide any updater script, but without adding
the schema in slapd.conf phamm can't work so the package is unusable. What
the maintainer would like to have (I'm only sponsoring the package) is that
the user could use phamm directly after an "aptitude install phamm" without
having to read documentation or changing configuration files.

> Do you unterstand the full implications and did you carefully weighed
> your decision to alter the other packages configuration file (see quoted
> part of the RFC)? Is the other packages maintainer aware of the changes
> you do in his or her configuration file?

I think the slapd's maintainer should provide a way to add additional
schemas, and this is an old problem which has been discussed in the past.

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Re: Can a package modify slapd.conf in its maintainer script?

2008-08-10 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
* 2008-08-10 22:25, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> The submitter is right.
> 
> | Packages must not modify other packages' configuration files
> | except by an agreed upon APIs (eg, a /usr/sbin/update-foo
> | command).
> 
> http://release.debian.org/lenny/rc_policy.txt section 3.

Thanks, we'll prepare a new release which disables the slapd.conf mangling
and provides documentation within README.Debian.

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Re: Can a package modify slapd.conf in its maintainer script?

2008-08-11 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Hello,

* 2008-08-11 09:53, Bjørn Mork wrote:
> Is there any reason why phamm-ldap should depend on slapd?  It could
> recommend slapd, like e.g kolabd does.  I think maybe the same goes for
> gforge-ldap-openldap, which also seems to be a ldap client depending on
> slapd. 

phamm is the real "application" package, phamm-ldap is a very simple
package which only ships an additional LDAP schema and has to be installed
on your ldap server; for this reason, phamm-ldap has to depend on slapd.
Obviously, phamm only recommends phamm-ldap.

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Re: debian-infrastructure-announce (was: dupload failed)

2007-11-09 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Hi,

* 2007-11-09 10:38, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > So why should I subscribe to an additional list?
> 
> Because not every infrastructual bit should/needs to be announced on d-d-a?!
> 
> Obviously, if ftp-master is down, this needs to go to d-d-a. But if the 3rd 
> amd64 porter machine or the swedish debian mirror is offline for 6h due to 
> scheduled maintainance, this doesnt need to go to d-d-a. But it's nice to 
> have on the infrastructure list.

I'd suggest that if ftp-master is down, the message should go to both d-d-a
and the infrastructure list. There is no need to subscribe to the latter if
you don't care about the amd64 porter machine or the swedish debian mirror,
but you do about ftp-master.

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Help needed for bug #441794 on postgis

2007-11-13 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Hi fellow developers,

I need some help to figure out how to fix an issue with the postgis
package, a PostgreSQL extension for handling spatial data.

The bug report is #441794, and here there is a quick summary: the package
provides a shared object (liblwgeom) which is used by postgresql for the
postgis-specific functions. With the last upload (a new upstream release)
the soname changed and the database became unusable because those functions
referred to the old soname.

I know that I could change the package name to reflect the soname, but I'm
wondering if there is a better way to handle it. Note that this issue will
pop up again when upgrading from etch to lenny.

Thanks in advance,

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Is Lars Bahner MIA?

2007-11-17 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Dear fellow developers,

I'm trying to get in touch with Lars Bahner: he is the maintainer of
varnish, but the last upload is from February 2007 and several new upstream
releases were available since then.

I offered help for the packaging several times by e-mail, but I haven't
received any answer so far. Do anybody know how to contact him?

Thanks in advance,

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Re: Bug#531038: ITP: python-repoze-tm2 -- Zope-like transaction manager via WSGI middleware

2009-05-29 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Hello Zack,

* 2009-05-29 14:20, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> * Package name: python-repoze-tm2

repoze.tm2 depends on transaction, which is a python module which will be
packaged very soon by the Debian/Ubuntu Zope team as the result of the
splitting of the old monolithic zope3 package.

More details about this splitting and how it will affect reverse
dependencies will be send out in an announcement to debian-python, but the
general rule is that we are trying to keep the naming of the python module
as linked as possible with their setuptools name.

For example, zope.interface will have a source file called zope.interface
and a binary package called python-zope.interface. I would suggest to apply
the same rules to these packages, calling the binary python-repoze.tm2.

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Fabio Tranchitella http://www.kobold.it
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