Re: the ncurses "brushfire" -- anybody want to take over the project?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 3 Jun 1997, Michael Alan Dorman wrote: > >1. The software may be redistributed by anyone. The license may > restrict a source file from being distributed in modified form, > as long as it allows modified binary files, and files that are > distributed along with the source for the express purpose of > modifying the source. > > So Eric is entirely correct in pointing out that the project is being > contradictory. > Clearly, this means that the author can require that we provide the virgin source .tgz along with a patch file to change it to the way we want it (this is exactly how debian source is distributed in the new format). So we are still distributing change work (once the source is unpacked with dpkg-source. But the author can be content that people have his/her original source available too in a .tar.gz file. Erv - -- PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Fingerprint: A5 AB 25 7D 7A FD 4D FE BE 21 47 60 0C DC 67 9E ==-- _ / / \ ---==---(_)__ __ __/ / /\ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / / /_/\ \ \- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ /__\ \ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] \_\/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM5TV9LkbWT/F2aV1AQEQQgP9GchMcYOxcXRFrUP7XBLDvOyjZIna0w+g pQN7M/s61a3OW4XwNnGjm8bcwDvbkyyO9dCdB/4mEfL07D9424oMhDliEyBt0zjm wbRFNnY7JxKvp6OtlqFUc1htZVkruQa1Owbq8l7RZTECLyUodkurJ4ppo58Bieeo yDdJ2P5ujE8= =OT6J -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
locale errors
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The locale errors are getting extremely annoying. What is the most
correct way to solve the problems. unsetting LANG solves the problem,
but I can't find where it is getting set in the first place. That's
not the most elegant solution anyway.
My locale version is 2.0.4-1
The error (from perl) is:
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LC_ALL = (unset),
LANG = "us"
are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
Note: There are similar error from other programs (emacs, etc). This
becomes particularly annoying when installing new packages (which
calls perl many times in a row).
Please tell me how to solve this problem
Thanks,
Erv
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kinda a bug with Debian 1.3 installation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I found a small bug with installation of 1.3.0 last night while installing on a friend's Toshiba Tecra Laptop. The problem deals with the kernel/pcmcia services. He has a Panasonic pcmcia 4x CDROM. It is supported by pcmcia and I have had it working in linux before so I didnt expect any problems. We intended to install the base system from floppies, copy the pcmcia-cs and pcmcia-modules to another floppy and then install them with dpkg by hand before continuing the installation from CD. This worked for 1.2 (I think). The problem is that boot disks are kernel 2.0.29. pcmcia-cs installs fine with this, and there are 2 versions of pcmcia-modules (one for 2.0.29 and one for 2.0.30). The problem is that the pcmcia-modules-2.0.29 depends on an earlier version of pcmcia-cs that isnt present. It wont install without --force-depends. Even when we tried this the modules in pcmcia-modules-2.0.29 do not work. They give a long list of missing kernel symbols when you boot. So. We needed kernel 2.0.30. It's on the CD, but we can't read it from linux. We had to reboot to DOS and copy it to his dos partition (too big for a floppy). After rebooting the base linux and mounting his dos partition, installing kernel-image-2.0.30 went fine until we tried to reboot. Remeber he has a tecra. We couldnt reboot with LILO or a boot floppy cause kernel-image has a bzimage in it. So I copied the kernel image back to dos and booted with loadlin. That worked fine. Now installing pcmcia-modules-2.0.30 and pcmcia-cs worked without problems. Rebooting (via loadlin) worked again. Now we have access to the CD. We install kernel-package and kernel-source-2.0.30, and compiled a zimage kernel for his tecra. now we can boot 2.0.30 with lilo or a floppy and not use DOS. Now we can continue with dselect. Really this was only about an hour or so. Not that big a deal for me (an experienced Linux/Debian user/admin), but there is now way he could have done it alone (or other newbies I'd imagine). I think the root of the problem was that the boot floppies have 2.0.29 on them and they dont match the kernel support services in the distribution. Of course, I dont know the whole story so maybe there is a reason to need 2.0.29 on boot floppies while we have 2.0.30 in the distribution. Another way to get around this problem would have been to include pcmcia-modules-2.0.29 that work. Finally, my last bit of advice is to include some documentation (maybe next to the tecra boot floppies on the ftp site) explaining how tecra kernels are different. It took me a while on the web to realize that I needed to compile a zimage and not a bzimage. It might make things easier for newbies who want to compile a new kernel to know they need to add -zimage to make-kpg I haven't filed a bug report, basically, because I'm not sure which package to file against. Thanks, Erv - -- PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Fingerprint: A5 AB 25 7D 7A FD 4D FE BE 21 47 60 0C DC 67 9E ==-- _ / / \ ---==---(_)__ __ __/ / /\ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / / /_/\ \ \- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ /__\ \ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] \_\/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM6QgDrkbWT/F2aV1AQG4qAP/W7vAEfHp7qKuBRqZV5dCUgPXrlJyuVTm vmhmwBIO1Y7TsUCa2zz/KgEXGDOcy4J2VijZVznhZGMZTFn6KP/b7v/LhOPX7msU idXzxPrZvM6+1hiV6/ZxH1rZGL2AZgs2sRfW06xbgpvYzZAaDdP7Z9qyx5PWqKgq o9dfvNXYgVg= =MOQt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: locale errors
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 15 Jun 1997, Kai Henningsen wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Erv Walter) wrote on 13.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Please tell me how to solve this problem > > Do you have libc6 and friends installed? That seems to be what causes this > for me. > > MfG Kai > Yes i do, but uninstalling them is not a solution since clearly that is where Debian is heading. I need a different solution. Can I uninstall locale? I dont use any special services of it (that I know of). Erv - -- PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Fingerprint: A5 AB 25 7D 7A FD 4D FE BE 21 47 60 0C DC 67 9E ==-- _ / / \ ---==---(_)__ __ __/ / /\ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / / /_/\ \ \- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ /__\ \ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] \_\/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM6QhXrkbWT/F2aV1AQFU1AQAtbMMV1d/ZZaS44jUKZB8Bjj4ATe2miqz WIxYM4YoDQYqNGMjq0Yj2qVnZ541PWlnSo9gWbcRNFxSRmD6JqpZT1BY9CdXWSK7 N9/q9qzjfWwK89sodEPaQbws4552X8OHQIs6h2UVaX337Ju3vG77lqeFg3J2/1Cb TpW9doy0yVg= =uLuk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: locale errors]
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On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, Mark Baker wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Erv Walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
> > perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
> > LC_ALL = (unset),
> > LANG = "us"
> > are supported and installed on your system.
> > perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
>
> I got that (with perl only) before I installed debian; it doesn't like
> locale settings that other programs seem to get on with OK. Try removing the
> LANG variable and it ought to work. Is whatever sets LANG (your .bashrc?)
> something you copied off another system?
> .
>
Well, I finally found where LANG was being set. It is set in .sd.sh
(which is the setup script for StarOffice). I removed it and problems
have disappeared (I dont know if I screwed up StarOffice of course :)
Erv
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Re: locale errors
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Re: locale errors
Damn, pinepgp is screwing up auto signatures. Sorry. === > On 17 Jun 1997, Ben Pfaff wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) writes: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Meskes) wrote on 17.06.97 in <[EMAIL > > > PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > No! You cannot use libc5 compiled perl with glibc locales! Wait for a > > > > libc6 version of perl and everything should be fine again. > > > > > > This is, of course, a problem nearly as serious as that about utmp. > > > > Not really. This is an issue only with `unstable' (as far as I can > > tell from the discussion), and `unstable' means exactly > > that--everything might not work properly. > That is true, but like the utmp problem, it's not going to go away by itself. If we want to be able to have a system where both libc5 and libc6 programs can coexist, we run into a problem with utmp. The 2 libraries manipulate utmp differently, so if you run both libc5 and libc6 binaries that try to manipulate utmp, it gets corrupted. Similarly, if we install libc5 locale files, libc6 programs can't use them. If we install libc6 locale files, libc5 programs can't use them. These are not trivial problems to fix, and they'll still be around in 3 months if nothing is done in the mean time. I am confident that someone will come up with an elligant solution after the 1.3 release settles down. Erv -- PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Fingerprint: A5 AB 25 7D 7A FD 4D FE BE 21 47 60 0C DC 67 9E ==-- _ / / \ ---==---(_)__ __ __/ / /\ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / / /_/\ \ \- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ /__\ \ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] \_\/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
xterm terminfo entry
I have a question about the terminfo entry for 'xterm' I am wondering how I need to adjust it so that it says color is supported. xterm now supports color (demonstrated by ls --color and tin in color), but the terminfo entry still says black and white so programs like lynx and slrn are blackand white. Maybe this should be fixed next time terminfo files are released. In the mean time, what entries do i need to change? Thanks, Erv -- Graduate Student[EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Chemistry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Univ of Wisconsin-Madison [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0kRqPrjUQ2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Rescue disk and Thinkpads (problem identified).
Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Install a bzImage kernel on the hard disk using LILO, and see if it will > > boot. If it boots, it's only a problem with the floppy bootstrap. All of > > our kernels are bzImage, so that should be easy to test. > Tried it, and it hangs when booting bzImage from the hard drive too. > -- > Rob Well, i had trouble booting a toshiba tecra with bzImages except via loadlin. The solution was to use a simple zImage instead of the bzImage. Now, lilo, syslinux, etc all work. Good Luck, Erv -- Graduate Student[EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Chemistry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Univ of Wisconsin-Madison [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Rescue disk and Thinkpads (problem identified).
Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd rather fix the software bug that prevents bzImage from working on > some computers. Thus, I need good data on what those computers are, > and I need people with those computers to test new boot floppies. Sounds good to me. I'll check the model number and get back to you (not my laptop). And I'd be ahppy to test possible solutions. Erv -- Graduate Student[EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Chemistry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Univ of Wisconsin-Madison [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
recent duplicate messages -- My Fault
The recent duplicate messages that appeared on debian-user and debian-devel were my fault. An error in my procmail script was resending things out, and I didnt catch it until several messages slipped out. I guess I should have tested it better before I unlocked the mail queue. Please forgive me, Erv Walter -- Graduate Student[EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Chemistry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Univ of Wisconsin-Madison [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: deb + tar + bzip2 suggestion
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > Sorry for the late reply - catching up. > IMHO speed is always relevant, and so is memory usage. This is the trap > Micro$oft > and Apple have fallen into. Just because the hardware is capable of running > faster > is no excuse for sloppy coding. I'm not saying everything should be written > in assembly > language and optimized, but horsepower is not a substitute either. Memory usage is important, but the useage time is short in this sense. Speed is important too, but the extra 30 seconds it takes to uncompress somethis is made up for in this case by the 5 minutes saved in downloading. This, of course, is only true if you have a slow link to the internet, but I think that that is true for a majority of people. Erv -- Graduate Student[EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Chemistry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Univ of Wisconsin-Madison [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wouldn't be caught dead with a necrophiliac. -- tagline 1.00 by xopy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Including Mysql in the Main Distrubation
Meskes, Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please tell me what exactly you like more about mysql in comparison to > PostgreSQL which really is DFSG free. 1) Speed 2) While neither completely implements SQL92 and newer standards, the portion that mysql implements is more useful for my application than the portion that PostgreSQL implements. Erv Walter -- Graduate Student[EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Chemistry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Univ of Wisconsin-Madison [EMAIL PROTECTED] With two ways to spell a word, the wrong one will be used -- tagline 1.00 by xopy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
