Re: How many people need locales?
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 02:21:04AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > Hello. > > For the purposes of determining whether or not "most users need to > change the /etc/locale.gen file" Ben and I need an estimate of the > proportion of Debian users using locales among all Debian users. > > [ See Bug #111008 for details ]. > > I think we can consider the volume or the number of subscribers of the > debian-user mailing list, and compare it with the volume or the number > of subscribers of all other language-specific debian-user-foo lists > combined. Is there anybody who can do this count? > > Can you think of another way to estimate the proportion of users using > locales? There is a package called 'popularity-contest' . It looks for most used files/packages and sends them out anonymously to be compiled into statistics. Maybe you can talk to it's maintainer, and see if he is willing to look into locales statistics in the next release? > > Thanks. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- GPG key-id: 1024D/5BE3DCFD Dmitriy CCAB 5F17 A099 9E43 1DBE 295C 9A21 2F1C 5BE3 DCFD Adobe put Dmitry in jail for the crime against society of revealing that they were selling ROT-13 as "encryption." He is rotting in US prison as a political prisoner for speaking out. Free Dmitry Sklyarov! http://www.freesklyarov.org pgp6GniU4kIyB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How many people need locales?
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 09:46:42AM +0900, Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote: > Hi, > > > I think we can consider the volume or the number of subscribers of the > > debian-user mailing list, and compare it with the volume or the number > > of subscribers of all other language-specific debian-user-foo lists > > combined. Is there anybody who can do this count? > > > > Can you think of another way to estimate the proportion of users using > > locales? > > In case of Japanese, I cannot imagine any Japanese people using > Linux without locale, except for server purpose. (I don't run > apache, postfix, and so on under Japanese locale.) In short, > all Japanese users of Desktop Linux use locale. > > Estimating number of users from ML subscribers: > Since there are [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing lists whose > public language is Japanese, Japanese people tend to subscribe > them and don't subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] or even > debian-japanese@lists.debian.org . (The public language of > debian-japanese@lists.debian.org is English and the list is > mainly used by foreign people who want to configure Japanese > environment.) I think the administrator of debian.or.jp mailing > lists knows the number of subscribers of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > lists. > > Also I imagine ordinary Chinese and Korean people use locale. add Russian to that list too :-) > > --- > Tomohiro KUBOTA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://www.debian.or.jp/~kubota/ > "Introduction to I18N" http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/intro-i18n/ > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- GPG key-id: 1024D/5BE3DCFD Dmitriy CCAB 5F17 A099 9E43 1DBE 295C 9A21 2F1C 5BE3 DCFD Adobe put Dmitry in jail for the crime against society of revealing that they were selling ROT-13 as "encryption." He is rotting in US prison as a political prisoner for speaking out. Free Dmitry Sklyarov! http://www.freesklyarov.org pgp5IXpmNFLAO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: feedback on jablicator: package choice sharing tool
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 09:07:46PM -0700, Jeff Breidenbach wrote: > > Hi all, > > I just wrote "jablicator" [1], which is a tool to help novice Debian > administrators leech off of more experienced administrators. > Specifically in the area of picking an appropriate set of packages to > install from Debian's untold thousands. I appreciate any feedback or > suggestions, and particularly technical feedback or comments from > those involved with the infamous "task-*" packages and their > successors. > > I'm sending this mail to debian-devel because this program actually > creates packages, and from a certain perspective, subdistributions. > This is traditionally the realm of Debian developers, so I want > developer feedback first. Eventually I expect tools like this to > somewhat blur the line between users and developers. > > > 0: General reactions? Would anyone consider using this tool? > > 1: Does some other Debian package already have this functionality? > > 2: Any technical hiccups? Am I doing the right thing with the output, >when creating "dists" and "pool"? > > 3: What's a better name? "deblicator" and "apt-share" have been >suggested so far. > > 4: Do some gurus with well thought out or specialized package >collections want to share the fruits of their labor by posting >their jablicator output? > > Thanks, > Jeff > > [1] It's in incoming http://incoming.debian.org or maybe already > in sid by the time you read this. If you try it out, make sure > to get version 1.0-3 or later. > Ugh My clock appers to run right (date shows correct TZ and local time) , but I get: tar: ./postinst: time stamp 2001-09-04 20:53:08 is 81768 s in the future tar: ./prerm: time stamp 2001-09-04 20:53:09 is 81769 s in the future tar: ./md5sums: time stamp 2001-09-04 20:53:14 is 81774 s in the future tar: ./control: time stamp 2001-09-04 20:53:13 is 81773 s in the future It works fine, but I just thought I'd point that out (v. 1.0-3 BTW) > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- GPG key-id: 1024D/5BE3DCFD Dmitriy CCAB 5F17 A099 9E43 1DBE 295C 9A21 2F1C 5BE3 DCFD Free Dmitry Sklyarov! http://www.freesklyarov.org pgpo4qeupHmfV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: >>>11,000,000 EMAIL ADDRESSES..............
On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 02:15:32PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Dear debian-devel@lists.debian.org, > > > Would you like to send an Email Advertisement to > 11,000,000 PEOPLE DAILY for FREE? > === [snip] > > NOTE: (If you do not already have a product or service to sell, we can > supply you with one). [snip] Heh, I wonder how 11,000,000 people would like to convert to debian for special introductory price of $99.95 :-) -- GPG key-id: 1024D/5BE3DCFD Dmitriy CCAB 5F17 A099 9E43 1DBE 295C 9A21 2F1C 5BE3 DCFD Free Dmitry Sklyarov! http://www.freesklyarov.org pgpVWCyu63u9D.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: XFS Kernel image packaging
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 01:12:52PM -0600, Russel Ingram wrote: [snip] > if it has to be done with dpkg-deb tool. I've used the make-kpkg command > to create kernel packages, but they always come out with a custom-1.00 > label on them and I haven't figured out how to get around that. try `make-kpkg --revision something0.99 ...` see man page for more info. > > Thanx, > Russ > > -- > Russel H. Ingram > Unix Systems Administrator > Institute for Scientific Computation > University of Wyoming/Math Dept. > Phone: (307)766-6546 > E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- GPG key-id: 1024D/5BE3DCFD Dmitriy CCAB 5F17 A099 9E43 1DBE 295C 9A21 2F1C 5BE3 DCFD Free Dmitry Sklyarov! http://www.freesklyarov.org pgpv4n4vqlKUy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Using USB serial device with a cdc-acm driver
Hello everyone, we have a small device of our own, which communicates through serial USB on Windows. Now we need it to work on Raspberry (yes, I know this is Debian, which is Raspberry based on). USB descriptors configured as a modem, so, when I connect it to Linux, cdc-acm module is loaded. However, there is apparently some process which is watching modems, so on connection I got some info on my device - on Ubuntu it is AT commands, for which I have adapted firmware (seems ModemManager is running), but on Raspberry I cannot find out what process attaches to my "modem" and what it wants. It sends a data similar to terminal control sequence. Where should I look at? I want to turn this process off. Ubuntu does not use inittab anymore, but Raspberry seems still uses. I do not see anything suspicious in /etc/inittab: # /etc/inittab: init(8) configuration. # $Id: inittab,v 1.91 2002/01/25 13:35:21 miquels Exp $ # The default runlevel. id:2:initdefault: # Boot-time system configuration/initialization script. # This is run first except when booting in emergency (-b) mode. si::sysinit:/etc/init.d/rcS # What to do in single-user mode. ~~:S:wait:/sbin/sulogin # /etc/init.d executes the S and K scripts upon change # of runlevel. # # Runlevel 0 is halt. # Runlevel 1 is single-user. # Runlevels 2-5 are multi-user. # Runlevel 6 is reboot. l0:0:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 0 l1:1:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 1 l2:2:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 2 l3:3:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 3 l4:4:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 4 l5:5:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 5 l6:6:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 6 # Normally not reached, but fallthrough in case of emergency. z6:6:respawn:/sbin/sulogin # What to do when CTRL-ALT-DEL is pressed. ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t1 -a -r now # Action on special keypress (ALT-UpArrow). #kb::kbrequest:/bin/echo "Keyboard Request--edit /etc/inittab to let this work." # What to do when the power fails/returns. pf::powerwait:/etc/init.d/powerfail start pn::powerfailnow:/etc/init.d/powerfail now po::powerokwait:/etc/init.d/powerfail stop # /sbin/getty invocations for the runlevels. # # The "id" field MUST be the same as the last # characters of the device (after "tty"). # # Format: # ::: # # Note that on most Debian systems tty7 is used by the X Window System, # so if you want to add more getty's go ahead but skip tty7 if you run X. # 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty --noclear 38400 tty1 2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2 3:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty3 4:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty4 5:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty5 6:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6 # Example how to put a getty on a serial line (for a terminal) # #T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS0 9600 vt100 #T1:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS1 9600 vt100 # Example how to put a getty on a modem line. # #T3:23:respawn:/sbin/mgetty -x0 -s 57600 ttyS3 #Spawn a getty on Raspberry Pi serial line #T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyAMA0 115200 vt100 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/99ff66e5-df2b-4a64-b62d-2ff35526e...@radier.ca
Re: Using USB serial device with a cdc-acm driver
On Dec 2, 2014, at 1:42 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Dmitriy Fitisov wrote: >> USB descriptors configured as a modem, so, when I connect it to Linux, >> cdc-acm module is loaded. >> However, there is apparently some process which is watching modems, so on >> connection >> I got some info on my device - on Ubuntu it is AT commands, for which I have >> adapted firmware >> (seems ModemManager is running), but on Raspberry I cannot find out what >> process attaches >> to my "modem" and what it wants. >> It sends a data similar to terminal control sequence. > > Possibly 'getty'? > May be. In this case I have to have some line in inittab which tells me that getty has to be activated on /dev/ttyACM0, but I do not have it. Somewhere else? >> Where should I look at? I want to turn this process off. > > Look in /var/log/syslog and hopefully something will be logged there. No, nothing related. I compiled cdc-acm with debug support and print bytes flowing and see that there is some info exchange with lot of 0x20 0x08 sequences after some "term control sequences" > > Look in 'ps -ef' and see if anything is shown associated with the tty > device. Tried that. No such things. It is "come and go". I carefully went through list of running processes with "top" and identified couple of suspects, which behaves actively at the time of insertion: udevd and ifplugd. If I stop service udevd, no devices created in /dev/ which is logically, udevd should be responsible for some part. > > Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/60e220b2-6c3e-4b8d-9aeb-e27158d40...@radier.ca
Re: Using USB serial device with a cdc-acm driver
On Dec 2, 2014, at 3:24 AM, Bjørn Mork wrote: > Dmitriy Fitisov writes: > >> we have a small device of our own, which communicates through serial USB on >> Windows. >> Now we need it to work on Raspberry (yes, I know this is Debian, which is >> Raspberry based on). >> USB descriptors configured as a modem, so, when I connect it to Linux, >> cdc-acm module is loaded. >> However, there is apparently some process which is watching modems, so on >> connection >> I got some info on my device - on Ubuntu it is AT commands, for which I have >> adapted firmware >> (seems ModemManager is running), but on Raspberry I cannot find out what >> process attaches >> to my "modem" and what it wants. > > lsof /dev/ttyACM0 > That I also tried last week. Nothing is open. It is like "probe on startup", some program does not recognize it as a valid terminal and close it. Just how it seems to me. I would not care about that, but my firmware receives some data which I do not expect at that time. > > Bjørn > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: https://lists.debian.org/874mtesbmk@nemi.mork.no > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/640dffe6-8657-4e3e-b153-23f3b88c8...@radier.ca
Re: Using USB serial device with a cdc-acm driver
Thank you, that might be.. Actually I tested it again and appears I was not exact. When device starts everything is ok. Then Linux app opens "/dev/serial/by-id/mydevice" (which with lsof somehow shows that /dev/ttyACM0 was opened instead) and sends few bytes: "t 6\n\r", device sends back some data starting with 0xCE, but my application does not receive it, instead some from some unknown place I see that cdc-acm itself in response to device data sends like this: 0x5e 0x43 0x5e 0x42 0x33 0xFF 0xD3 0x5E 0x45 0x31 0x53 0x38 0x30 0x40 0x59 0x25 0x43, then 4 first bytes that device sent and 0x5E 0x41 0x5E 0x40 0x5E 0x40 - repeats few times 0x5e 0x40 then lot of 0x08 0x20.. Which looks like ^C^B3 0xFF 0xD3 ^E1S80@Y%C does not make sense to me.. Checked udev, shat down ifplugd and dbus-daemon, no effect. On Dec 2, 2014, at 7:02 AM, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Hi, > > Dmitriy Fitisov: >>> lsof /dev/ttyACM0 >> >> That I also tried last week. Nothing is open. > > The next target of interest would be udev. > Which rules fire, and do they start anything? > (udevadmin monitor …) > > -- > -- Matthias Urlichs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/d6d9c13d-ce60-4b4b-a443-1044926b9...@radier.ca
