Re: bits from the release team
On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 06:43:28PM -0500, Brian Nelson wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes: > > > On Jan 04, Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Not to mention that 2.6.15 requires a newer udev. Who knows what other > >> newer > >> things newer kernels might require. > > OTOH, old kernel are buggy and out of date wrt modern hardware, and we > > lack the manpower to backport for years fixes and new features RHEL-style. > > Do you have a better solution? > > Why don't we use RHEL's kernel, or collaborate with them to maintain a > stable kernel tree, or something? or http://members.optusnet.com.au/ckolivas/kernel/ -- Chris. == Reproduction if desired may be handled locally. -- rfc3 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Packet radio and foul language
On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 03:41:09PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 12:43:16PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Manners/politeness is social lubricant. It makes society run > > smoother and less violently. > > I'm pretty sure that people who always take the path of least > resistance are *precisely* how the world got so fucked up in the first > place. Sacrificing "long term gains" for "short term pleasures", perhaps, rather than "*always* taking the path of least resistance." -- Chris. == Reproduction if desired may be handled locally. -- rfc3 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 11:47:50AM +0200, David Weinehall wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:21:46AM -0700, Stephen Birch wrote: > > Florian Weimer([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-06 09:32: > > > * Stephen Birch: > > > > > > > Wow Nokia just became my new favourite company. > > > > > > To put things into perspective, Nokia is one of the companies lobbying > > > for unlimited software patents in Europe. > > > > Oops. I don't like to appear fickle but I guess they just went from > > top company to bottom in my mind. Sigh ... I would have liked one of > > those tablet computer. > > So, I take it you don't buy any products from Apple, IBM, Sony, > etc either? > > There's a distinct difference between corporate policy and the project > internal policy of the Nokia/OSSO team who have developed the N770. > > > Software patents are an absolute menace in the USA it would be crazy > > for Europe to also start issuing them. > > Well, the European Parliament is (or has at least been) strongly opposed > to software patents, so it's unlikely that they will pass without some > serious trickery. FFmpeg threatened by software patents: http://ffmpeg.org/ specifically: The European commission has just passed its directive on software patents, violating democratic rules and procedures to the sole benefit of big non-European corporation and Ireland and to the detriment of small and medium sized businesses (which comprise 99% of the European software industry) and free software. The European parliament will now be taking the last stand against software patents in a voting for which an absolute majority is needed. Such a majority is hard to come by in a parliament with a low attendance level. Doesn't look good :-( -- Chris. == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Canonical and Debian
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 04:50:31PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 05:52:08PM +0200, Julien BLACHE wrote: > > Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >>> accusing people of being members of a Canonical-controlled cabal when > > >>> they > > >>> do you the courtesy of informing you about their personal priorities for > > >>> etch. Your choice. > > >> > > >> "personal priorities", that's a good summary for the Vancouver > > >> proposal, indeed. > > > > > > Are you willing to have Debian dictate your work to you? > > > > If you're not willing to maintain your packages on the architectures > > supported by the Project (assuming it is possible, ie the packages > > aren't arch-specific), then you're not helping the project, and you'd > > better spend your time on another one. > > > > Last time I checked, we were all here to help this project build the > > best OS ever. > > > > Please don't forget world domination. I really decided to start the > process of becoming a NM after Branded told me about his plans for total > world domination :-) Nothing like a good session of planning to take > over the world to wake you up in the morning. > > (Just kidding, Branden) While there's Microsoft the Borg won't dare come near us :-) -- Chris. == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody removed from mirrors
On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 06:15:28PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > Debian is not updating packages in Woody, its now oldstable. Debian now > has support for Sarge and will still support Sarge when Etch is released > but when Lenny is near release Sarge will stop being supported like > Woody is now (this is based upon a generalized 1 year support). > - > now: > - > Supported : Sarge(stable), Etch(testing) > Not supported: bo, hamm, potato, woody(oldstable) > - > after Etch is released: > - > Supported : Sarge(oldstable), Etch(stable), > Not supported: bo, hamm, potato, woody > - > Shortly before Lenny is released: > - > Supported : Etch(oldstable), Lenny(stable) > Not supported: bo, hamm, potato, woody, Sarge Hey ... what about slink? :-) -- Chris. == " ... the official version cannot be abandoned because the implication of rejecting it is far too disturbing: that we are subject to a government conspiracy of `X-Files' proportions and insidiousness." Letter to the LA Times Magazine, September 18, 2005. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [desktop] ¿Dead?
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 11:55:23PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 06:14:26PM -0400, Janez Rabzelj Zappone wrote: > > Hi, the project is dead? > > > No, this is not an ex-project. It is sleeping! Not unlike the Norwegian > blue parrot! > Cheers, > Kev Which was because of a particulary long squawk? -- Chris. == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program
On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 06:21:41PM +0100, Gabor Gombas wrote: > On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 12:11:32AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > > I read all of your points as criticisms of Linux. That is disappointing. > > Why is criticism disappointing? The goals of Linux and the Linux Perhaps he meant that *reading them as criticisms of Linux* was disappointing. -- Chris. == Reproduction if desired may be handled locally. -- rfc3 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A suggestion
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 03:16:48PM +0200, Andrea Bolognani wrote: > On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 00:38:36 -0300 > Joel Franco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I think that the testing or above releases may be suitable for the > > desktop of a EXPERT linux user. I need a stable release because my > > desktop must simply to work; it is not a so critical system like a > > server but this is critical to my business go on. > > >From my experience, testing is perfectly suitable for a desktop/development > system. I have used it exclusively on both my desktop and my laptop for a > couple of years now, and I have experienced only a couple of minor issues > so far. > > The main difference between a desktop and a server is that usually on a > server you can't afford any downtime, while on a desktop system you can > screw up and reinstall every once in a while if needed... Unfortunately, many people new to Debian/Linux get the impression that testing is perfectly suitable for a desktop system. -- Chris. == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A suggestion
On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 11:31:44PM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > Am Mittwoch 02 April 2008 schrieb Chris Bannister: > > On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 03:16:48PM +0200, Andrea Bolognani wrote: > > > On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 00:38:36 -0300 > > > > > > Joel Franco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I think that the testing or above releases may be suitable for the > > > > desktop of a EXPERT linux user. I need a stable release because my > > > > desktop must simply to work; it is not a so critical system like a > > > > server but this is critical to my business go on. > > > > > > > >From my experience, testing is perfectly suitable for a > > > > desktop/development > > > > > > system. I have used it exclusively on both my desktop and my laptop for a > > > couple of years now, and I have experienced only a couple of minor issues > > > so far. > > > > > > The main difference between a desktop and a server is that usually on a > > > server you can't afford any downtime, while on a desktop system you can > > > screw up and reinstall every once in a while if needed... > > > > Unfortunately, many people new to Debian/Linux get the impression that > > testing is perfectly suitable for a desktop system. > > It really depends on the person(s) using that desktop. But your wording > is "black or white" anyway (see: perfectly). My wording is just a paraphrase of the previous message. As for "It really depends on the person(s) using that desktop." I did say "people new to Debian/Linux". I agree testing/unstable is a good choice for someone who is fairly familiar with Debian. For example, being able to report bugs should be mandatory. Knowing where/how to peruse documentation. etc. -- Chris. == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A suggestion
On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 10:29:30AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 01:44:56AM +1300, Chris Bannister a écrit : > > > > Unfortunately, many people new to Debian/Linux get the impression that > > testing is perfectly suitable for a desktop system. > > Maybe because they have read Debian's website? > > "things should not break as badly as in unstable or experimental > distributions" > http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/index.en.html > > "The unstable distribution is where active development of Debian > occurs. Generally, this distribution is run by developers" > http://www.debian.org/releases/index.en.html > > There is nothing in these pages that warns against the use of Testing on > a desktop system, except of course that Debian "primarily recommends > using" Etch. > > There are three alternative options for escaping Etch's bugs (for > instance white-on-white selections in Evince): > > - Backporting some packages by hand, but this requires skill. > - Using backports.org, but it is unofficial. > - Using Testing or Sid. > > If Debian wants to issue stronger warnings for those using Testing on > the desktop, maybe mentionning that it is also a development tool and it > is not inteded for normal use would do the job… Instead of advising a new user "If you can't cope with the problems of testing use stable" which sounds rather harsh and dismissive, especially if they were advised to download the testing netinst iso because it should better support their hardware, it would be better to point them to an official link[1] which points out what users should be aware of: * purpose of testing, i.e. not just a better stable. * pitfalls of using testing. * how to diagnose why their system broke + intelligent use of apt/aptitude/synaptic/whatever + installing apt-listbugs etc. + How to use the BTS/PTS to help diagnose and possibly find a fix to why their system suddenly went crook. + How to file a proper bug report. (Would be handy to read, in any case.) * Other resources like update-excuses, why is package foo not in testing yet, etc. etcetera. I don't host my own website on the net, otherwise I'd have a shot, but considering that it would then be unofficial, and considering the differences of opinion already from the many replies of I have read, and if there were any inaccuracies it may even cause more confusion to new users. Also there are probably more good resources than I am aware of, also I won't know of any additions or improvements to resources of this type. It annoys me when someone posts to debian-user with "the latest upgrade just broke my system -- what is going on?" sometimes in not so nice terms. [1] If there is one, my most humblest apologies and after the flaming, could you please advise where it is. I will download and read http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/index.en.html, but from Charles comments above it does not go that far. -- Chris. ==
Re: A suggestion
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 08:13:59AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 10:55:40AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen a écrit : > > > > Given how much uproar there is about Microsoft's desire to retire > > Windows XP while many people would rather stick with it that go to > > Vista, perhaps the idea that everyone wants the latest and greatest is > > no longer true. > > Hi Lennart, > > I think that the way people use XP looks more like "Stable + Backports" > that just "Stable". > > As for the purpose of Testing, in the end the answer is probably in the > hands of those : > - who invented it; > - who control its content. > > On this list we can read opposite opinions of individual developpers, > so maybe the persons who feel "in charge" of Testing (probably the > release team, the FTP team, and the testing security team) can clarify > on the list and/or on the website if they think it is needed. Something like: If you run testing please use the following resources: foo/bar before submitting bugs or complaining on the debian-user mailing list. -- Chris. ==
Re: What about use xml for descriptions of packages?
On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 08:29:56AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > What's an extra few MB plus parsing overhead when "everyone" has > 250GB HDDs, multi-core 64-bit CPUs and 2+GB RAM? > Huh?. Why commit "good" machines to the landfill? -- Chris. == "One, with God, is always a majority, but many a martyr has been burned at the stake while the votes were being counted." -- Thomas B. Reed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian's eboard package
On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 04:07:55PM +0200, Patrik Fimml wrote: > Hi, > > the latest eboard package in unstable is version 1.0.3-1. It is rather > unusable, because it keeps crashing frequently (#452686). Meanwhile, upstream > has moved on to version 1.1.1, released three months ago. > > I have tried to contact the maintainer on this issue four days ago, without > reply to date. > > However, seeing that the latest package is more than a year old, and there is > a one-year-old bug constating the wish for a 1.0.4 package (#427434), it seems > to me that the maintainer is not interested in the package. > > As I frequently use eboard and have done some "hobby" packages before, I'd > like to take care of the package. What exactly is the procedure to follow in > this case? Is xboard a suitable replacement? -- Chris. == "One, with God, is always a majority, but many a martyr has been burned at the stake while the votes were being counted." -- Thomas B. Reed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ITP: debian-backports-keyring -- GnuPG archive key of the backports.org repository
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 12:49:50PM -0500, William Pitcock wrote: > Have you ever heard the fable concerning a father, a son and a donkey? > In a nutshell, first, nobody rides down the road on the donkey, and > instead lead him with a rope. People criticized them for doing so, e.g. > "why not let the kid ride on top of the donkey?" > > So, the father told the kid to ride the donkey. Then people criticized > them again, for not letting the father ride the donkey instead. So, they > switched again. Then people criticized that too, so they wound up > carrying the donkey. Eventually, they reached a stream and fell in the > water because there was too much weight in once place on the bridge they > were crossing. Wouldn't that happen whether they were riding or carrying the donkey? -- Chris. == "One, with God, is always a majority, but many a martyr has been burned at the stake while the votes were being counted." -- Thomas B. Reed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#413735: ITP: mdk2 -- Destructive 802.11 wireless network hacking tool
On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 07:56:52AM +0200, Debian Oracle wrote: > On ti, 2007-03-06 at 15:31 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > mdk2 is a tool designed to crash 802.11 wireless network. > ... > > What's the non-black hat purpose of this tool? > [..] > You owe the Debian Oracle a patch to icedove to warn about quoting more > than you write yourself. What do you get for warning about incorrect attribution? -- Chris. == " ... the official version cannot be abandoned because the implication of rejecting it is far too disturbing: that we are subject to a government conspiracy of `X-Files' proportions and insidiousness." Letter to the LA Times Magazine, September 18, 2005. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reasons for recommends and suggests
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 02:08:16AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > Now as for the need for re-classification of 'recommends' to say > 'suggests' to trim (mega|giga)bytes from the basic install sounds like a neat > idea and a way to help with that is to have the maintainer have a simple > file that explains the association between the package and its > recommends(kind of like the proposed comments) so that it can be peer > reviewed if someone questions its usefulness in a regular install with > aptitude. > > debian.recommends.txt for mutt > --- > mutt-print: adds a way to print mail using tex formatting > gnupg: used to sign and/or encrypt incomming/outgoing mail > --- Yeah but mutt-print is neither mentioned as a recommends nor a suggests! -- Chris. == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#428256: ITP: ffrenzy -- Multiplayer platform with dwarfs fighting with/for food
On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 10:41:43AM +0200, Paul van Tilburg wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Paul van Tilburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * Package name: ffrenzy > Version : 1.0.2 > Upstream Authors: Bas Kloet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Christian Luijten <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]>, > Emiel Neggers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bram Senders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Sjoerd Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Paul van Tilburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : http://ffrenzy.luon.net/ > * License : GPL > Programming Lang: C mainly, Python for the menu and utils > Description : Multiplayer platform with dwarfs fighting with/for food > > Dwarfs need to collect food as fast as possible to bring it back to their > mushrooms to live. When a dwars leaves his home without providing it with ^ ? > food too long, it dies from hunger. The collected food can be thrown at > other dwarfs, making them unconscious when hit. When a power-up is picked > up, thrown food will have special powers! -- Chris. == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: APT 0.7 for sid
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 05:39:54PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > The frontends imho just need a clear way of showing which packages are > going to be installed because of a Depends and which because of a > Recommends, so it would be easier to de-select a recommended package. > > Otherwise there would be no point having Suggests and Recommends, if > they are basically treated the same by the package management tool. You could scrap the "Suggests and Recommends" tags all together and use the debtags to relate packages. Just a thought. :-) Chris. == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#489824: ITP: pllua -- PL/Lua is an implementation of Lua as a loadable procedural language for PostgreSQL
On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 02:01:13PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > > On that basis, a better synopsis would be: > > PL/Lua procedural language for PostgreSQL So the short description can start with a capital letter? -- Chris. == "One, with God, is always a majority, but many a martyr has been burned at the stake while the votes were being counted." -- Thomas B. Reed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#490805: ITP: txtreader -- text reader, mainly used for reading text originally novels
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 08:23:27PM +0800, LI Daobing wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: LI Daobing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * Package name: txtreader > Version : 0.4.4 > Upstream Author : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > * URL : http://www.minisrc.com/?q=taxonomy/term/2 > * License : GPL > Programming Lang: C++ > Description : text viewer, mainly used for reading text originally > novels Ummm, Do you mean: Description : text viewer, mainly used for reading text of original novels -- Chris. == "One, with God, is always a majority, but many a martyr has been burned at the stake while the votes were being counted." -- Thomas B. Reed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [DRAFT] resolving DFSG violations
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 01:02:30PM -0500, Ean Schuessler wrote: > Its a lot like exercise. Its not convenient and its not easy but in the long > run its a good idea. Nice pun! :) -- Chris. == I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen F Roberts -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug Sprint results (draft)
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 07:48:21PM +0100, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > >=2E.. hence, given that Lenny hasn't been release yet, when are we gonna > > make another one? :) > > Let's make it a Beer Sprint. The winners receive a package with the local > brew from the people who didn't manage to fix their bugs. I'm offering > German beer to five winners, just as Joss did for cookies. But ... *who* is gonna want the aussie beer? :) -- Chris. == I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen F Roberts -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Ignorance is no defence. (was ... Re: Leverage in licensing discussions)
On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 08:28:16PM +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Being in favor of open-sourcing firmwares (including those controlling > > critical security devices in cars) does not mean being in favor of > > letting anyone ship their own version. In such cases, there needs to be > > some appropriate process to validate the new versions and to enforce it > > legally. Just like you are not allowed to make any modification you like > > in your engine, you should not be allowed to make modifications in the > > car’s firmware. And just like modifying the engine without the original > > plans makes it more likely to fail, the same holds for a firmware you’d > > modify without source. > > Well, if there is some law preventing me from modifying the code, it's > not free software any more. It's still not 'closed software' but that > still renders it non-free and non-distributable for debian. > > > Indeed. But you can still use a modified firmware, even without the > > source. If ill-intentioned people wanted to do it, this would already be > > quite feasible. > > There is a difference between 'ill-intended people' (those with criminal > intentions) and interested kiddies just downloading and tampering with > freely available source code, having no idea of what harm they might > cause to others. Not in the "eyes of the law". Ignorance is not a defence. Although, with a "decent" lawyer you "should" be OK. Unfortunately, this is also true for the 'ill-intended people'. :( -- Chris. == I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen F Roberts -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SmellyWerewolf.com perfume & make-up discount
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 10:41:13PM +0100, Federico Di Gregorio wrote: > Il giorno dom, 23/11/2008 alle 15.17 -0600, Manoj Srivastava ha scritto: > > On Sun, Nov 23 2008, Federico Di Gregorio wrote: > > > > > > > Yes (I'd find it funny). That's what humour is. > > > > hen you are a retrograde, beetle browed moron. > > > Mm.. sincerely from someone of your flaming fame I expected something > better. I'll make it do. :D Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries. -- Chris. == I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen F Roberts -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#508725: ITP:pmwiki -- easy of use wiki-based system
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 02:16:37PM -0500, Cristian Paul Peñaranda Rojas wrote: > X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Package: pmwiki > Severity: wishlist > Owner: cristian paul peñaranda rojas > > * Package name : pmwiki > Version : 2.2.0 > Upstream Author : Patrick R. Michaud > * URL : http://www.pmwiki.org > License : GPL > Programming Lang: PHP > > Description: easy of use wiki-based system Should be: "easy to use wiki based system." > PmWiki is designed to be easy to install and customize as an engine for > creating professional web sites with one to any number of content authors. > The software focuses on ease-of-use, so people with little IT or wiki > experience will be able to put it to use. Also extemely extensible > and customizable -- Chris. == I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen F Roberts -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Bug#440823: ITP: kelbt -- backtracking LR parser
On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 09:24:18PM +0200, Guus Sliepen wrote: > Which CASCON paper? I don't think you should mention this in the > description. The description is meant for a user to decide if he wants > to install this package or not. You shouldn't make a user follow So after reading the description and you are still in the dark as to whether you want to install a package, should you file a bug? -- Chris. == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#457424: ITP: yougrabber -- download simultaneously several videos from youtube.com
On Sat, Dec 22, 2007 at 12:04:06PM +0100, root wrote: Humourous or risqué? -- Chris. ==
Re: Sources licensed under PHP License and not being PHP are not distributable
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 08:57:43PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > I'd recommend that we safeguard our users against 'PHP' licensing problems > the same way I protect myself against a meteorite hitting me on my way to > work tomorrow, and for roughly the same reasons. Because there is nothing you can do? -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140627024316.GE29004@tal
Re: "thanks" messages on mailing lists/bug reports
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 03:41:50PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 15:45:21 +0200 > Sven Bartscher wrote: > > > Greetings everyone, > > > > I recently started contributing to debian. > > Before that, most of my writing with people I don't know personally > > through the internet was on Stack Exchange. > > On Stack Exchange, messages that only consist of thanking people or > > agreement are not considered helpful. > > High volume mailing lists are often the same. If you're adding "noise", > it isn't going to be seen as helpful. +1 and "thanks" are generally > regarded as "noise" if there is no other content. (Worse is when those > are applied at the end of a very long email without snipping other > content.) +1 -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140628105559.GM31608@tal
Re: Proposal to avoid executable naming conflicts (was: Bug#753704: ITP: amap -- Next-generation scanning tool for pentesters)
On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 11:31:12AM -0400, Eric Cooper wrote: > Since Debian package names must already be unique, we ought to be able > to leverage that to avoid having to fight over which package gets to > claim which binary name. > > What about making it into a user's install-time decision, > rather than a developer's packaging-time decision? Wouldn't you get sick of 'that name has already been taken, please try another.' message? -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140708185702.GI13825@tal
Re: Let's shrink Packages.xz
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 08:40:29PM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014, at 19:28, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Ondřej Surý writes: > > > On Mon, Jul 14, 2014, at 18:25, Jakub Wilk wrote: > > > > >> Food for thought: > > >> Which fields take up most space in Packages.xz[0]? > > > > > I am still lost - what problem are we trying to solve here? > > > Could we at least define it to see if the problem exists? > > > > I'm fairly sure Jakub's message was in response to the recent discussion > > about small Node.js packages and the frequent complaints that we should > > not introduce small packages into the archive because it bloats our > > metadata. > > > > Reducing the size of Packages.xz by 11% or 22% would leave room for quite > > a lot of small packages while not making the problem any worse than it is > > today. > > Ok, that makes much more sense now. Still is the main problem the > download > size or the size on the disk (I can guess that it can be a problem on > embedded > archs). Or both? Or just being a tidy citizen and try to avoid unnecessary wastage? -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140718150937.GK8963@tal
Re: Bug#755285: marked as done (general: Black screen on resume after suspend)
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 08:25:05PM +0200, Abou Al Montacir wrote: > because it is duplicate and not because it is missing information. It > may be clear for may that "dupe" means duplicate, but this is not clear > for every body especially that in French this means "stupid". Considering the language is English, it would be a pity if the reader made this mistake. Let's assume a modicum of 'common sense' at least. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140720131209.GL12789@tal
Re: Bug#756172: ITP: ssh-cron -- cron-like job scheduler than handles ssh key passphrases
On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 09:05:37PM -0700, tony mancill wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: tony mancill > > * Package name: ssh-cron > Version : 0.91.01 > Upstream Author : > * URL : > * License : GPL-2+ > Programming Lang: C++ > Description : cron-like job scheduler than handles ssh key passphrases Presume you mean "... scheduler that handles ..." It may even be "proper English" to say "... scheduler which handles ..." -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140727065723.GA32374@tal
Re: Bug#756669: ITP: kalendas -- Calculations of calendar and Julian Date
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 05:10:40PM -0500, Mike Molina wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Owner: Miguel Molina > > * Package name: kalendas > Version : 1.0.0 > Upstream Author : Miguel Molina > * URL : https://github.com/mikemolina/kalendas > * License : GPL v3 > Programming Lang: Perl > Description : Calculations of calendar and Julian Date > > Hello, > kalendas is a perl script to make calendar calculations. The > computations are developed on three systems of dating: the > Julian calendar, the Gregorian calendar and the system of > numbering of Julian day/date. > > kalendas also is available in languages spanish and portuguese; > the program documentation is in spanish. So there is no documentation in English? -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140801022734.GC15792@tal
Re: systemd, again (Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing)
On Sun, Sep 07, 2014 at 12:18:08PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Hi, > > Zack Weinberg: > > I think this strategy is positively _necessary_ in order to ensure > > that systems currently running Wheezy can safely be upgraded to > > Jessie. There are simply too many wacky configurations out there; it > > If we do decide that a default switch is unsafe for too many systems, then > I wouldn't have a problem with, for instance, adding a debconf question to > systemd-sysv's preinst which tells people what to do if they don't want > systemd for whatever reason. > > > [ symlink and co-installability ] > > If technically feasible, that would be a far better safety net (just tell > people to boot with init=/sbin/sysvinit if they run into a problem) than > an "oh dear, it's so dangerous that we don't even install it by default" > message. :-/ Surely, it should be an OPT-IN choice, not an OPT-OUT one? I'm talking upgrades here, not new installs. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140907111201.GA11840@tal
Re: systemd, again
On Sun, Sep 07, 2014 at 02:02:33PM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > > On the other hand, a non-GNOME wheezy user SHALL not > be upgraded to systemd, true. That is contadicted by: https://lists.debian.org/20140907151102.go21...@smurf.noris.de -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140908105532.GH30983@tal
Re: Bug#762274: ITP: libx11-keybord-perl -- Keyboard support functions for X11
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 03:24:25PM +0200, Mike Gabriel wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Mike Gabriel > > * Package name: libx11-keybord-perl ^^^ Is the misspelling of keyboard deliberate? If so sorry for the noise. > Version : 1.4 > Upstream Author : Erick Calder > * URL : https://metacpan.org/release/X11-Keyboard > * License : Expat > Programming Lang: Perl > Description : Keyboard support functions for X11 -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140920144019.GA2234@tal
Re: peace of mind
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 05:09:57PM +0100, Robert Lemmen wrote: > not as much as would be ideal, but I have been running it on one > machine, adapted a few things that I run for starting, and trieid the > monitoring/restart. but really, my main concerns are fueled by pages > like this [0]. Am I missing something, or are statements like this fraught with much headscratching and bewilderment? : "Note that this is a promise, not an eternal guarantee." > [0] > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/InterfaceStabilityPromise/ -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141023142546.GH29294@tal
Re: Bug#766576: ITP: libatf -- Automated Test Framework (ATF) libraries
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 09:39:35PM -0700, Craig Rodrigues wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Craig Rodrigues > > * Package name: libatf > Version : 0.21 > Upstream Author : Julio Merino > * URL : https://github.com/jmmv/atf > * License : BSD > Programming Lang: C, C++, Bourne shell > Description : Automated Test Framework (ATF) libraries > > The Automated Test Framework (ATF) provides libraries > in C, C++, and shell script for writing test programs. > ATF can be used to tests can written for be used to test system software. ??? -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141025043317.GH530@tal
Re: Bug#767617: ITP: calculix-ccx -- CalculiX CrunchiX is a three dimensional structual Finite Element Solver
On Sat, Nov 01, 2014 at 03:10:03PM +0100, Wolfgang Fuetterer wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Wolfgang Fuetterer > > * Package name: calculix-ccx > Version : 2.7 > Upstream Author : Guido Dhondt > * URL : http://www.calculix.de/ > * License : GPL > Programming Lang: C, Fortran > Description : CalculiX CrunchiX is a three dimensional structual Finite > Element Solver > > Calculix-ccx is a three dimensional structual Finite Element Solver. The > upstream URL is: http://www.calculix.de > > > Description from the website: > CalculiX is a package designed to solve field problems. The method used is the > finite element method. > > With CalculiX Finite Element Models can be build, calculated and post- ^ should be built -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141108101431.GF2374@tal
Re: Bug#768936: ITP: nufft -- Library implementing the Non-Uniform Fast Fourier Transform
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 10:21:33AM +, Ghislain Antony Vaillant wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Ghislain Antony Vaillant > > * Package name: nufft > Version : 1.3.3 > Upstream Author : Leslie Greengard > * URL : http://www.cims.nyu.edu/cmcl/nufft/nufft.html > * License : BSD > Programming Lang: FORTRAN > Description : Library implementing the Non-Uniform Fast Fourier > Transform > > Implementation of the Non-Uniform Fast Fourier Transform (NUFFT) coded in > FORTRAN using a fast, procedural, algorithm. > > Compared to existingly packaged solutions, like the NFFT library, the NUFFT > provides Octave (and MATLAB) compatible bindings. Because of the procedural > implementation, usage of the NUFFT is more straightforward. However, it lacks > support for high dimensionality than 3 and support for precomputation in case ^^ I think that would be better worded as "dimensions greater than three" or similar. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/2014042101.GB4295@tal
Re: Being part of a community and behaving
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:02:53AM +0100, Bálint Réczey wrote: > Dear Josselin, > > I have just noticed your blog post on planet.debian.org: > https://np237.livejournal.com/34598.html > > I would like to ask you to resist the temptation of publishing similar posts. > It makes fun of part of our community which you are well aware of and > it also shows corpses which probably did not ring a bell in you. Skeletons are *not* corpses. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141117141322.GI20978@tal
Re: Being part of a community and behaving
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:48:29PM +, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 11:05:13AM +0100, Bj??rn Mork wrote: > > m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) writes: > > > On Nov 17, Steve Langasek wrote: > > >> > This is what many still (retorically) wonder about: we the systemd > > >> > maintainers did not reject that change, > > >> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=15;bug=746578 > > > Please try to be less selective in your quoting: the issue was still > > > being discussed. > > I see. So any systemd bug with a 'wontfix' tag is still considered open > > for discussion? That's good to know. Thanks. > > Isn't any (open) bug tagged wontfix still "open for discussion"? If you've > got new information, or a new approach that the maintainer might prefer, > you can post it to the bug and discuss it with the maintainer... It appears to be a misnomer then. I read 'wontfix' as "I'm not going to to fix it as I don't see it as a bug." Or am I confusing an open wontfix with a closed wontfix? -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141118034838.GD7745@tal
Re: Improving our response to "duplicate" packages in Debian
On Sun, Jul 01, 2012 at 08:24:27AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > Has anyone quantized the % of tasks that a DD/DM does that are outside of > their > pet projects? Meaning, once they get their itch scratched, how far outside of > their main reason for joining Debian, do they explore? Would it be useful to > game-ify people's efforts outside their 'comfort zone' (eg. a perl packager Is this yet another new word? -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120702030137.GY15677@tal
Re: Concerns and Challenges of Squeeze and Ongoing Elements
On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 12:10:18AM -0400, John L. Males wrote: > > Modified Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.3 (squeeze) > Planning, Upgrade, Modifications from Highly modified ^^^ > Debian 4.x Etch ^^^ And you upgraded to Lenny, then Squeeze finding more problems on each upgrade? I think If you approached debian-u...@lists.debian.org with your concerns, an individual email per concern, would be more constructive. Just my 2c. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120711091618.GY3873@tal
Re: Package changelog should contain, well, a log of changes
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 08:46:22AM +1000, Craig Small wrote: > On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 12:24:44AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > On 12-07-13 at 08:39pm, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > > > Jonas Smedegaard (13/07/2012): > > > > Please proofread your changelog before releasing a packaging, and make > > > > sure all entries describe what was _changed_. ^ > > > > > > SNCR, > > > KiBi. > > > > I fail to extract any meaning out of the above. > > Could you please elaborate? > It should of been package not packaging. I got that bit. > Still, I'm not sure what "Stevie Nicks Concert Reviews" or the "Society > for New Communications Research" has got to do with it. Shows a sense of humour. :) SCNRSorry, Could Not Resist -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120714074612.GC3205@tal
Re: Package changelog should contain, well, a log of changes
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 07:14:56AM +, Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2012-07-13, Craig Small wrote: > >> On 12-07-13 at 08:39pm, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > >> > SNCR, > >> > KiBi. > > > It should of been package not packaging. I got that bit. > > Still, I'm not sure what "Stevie Nicks Concert Reviews" or the "Society > > for New Communications Research" has got to do with it. > > I guess it is short for "Sorry Not Could Resist". > > It is most likely due to the following law: > > Everytime you correct spelling errors on the internet, > you have a spelling error in your message correcting it Although spelling and grammar errors make a product "look" cheap, and show a lack of respect for the buyer/reader. IMHO. But times, they are a changin' :( http://news.slashdot.org/story/12/07/09/1132201/does-grammar-matter-anymore -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120714120635.GB8057@tal
Re: Bug#687103: ITP: maps -- OpenStreetMap client for the GNOME Desktop
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:28:16AM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 06:45:42AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > > also sprach Luca Capello [2012.09.09.2029 +0200]: > > > Or, if this is tightened to OSM, 'gnome-osm-maps'. > > > > except the 'm' on "osm" is already a "map", so maybe osm-client. > > I like dropping 'gnome', and not doubling-up map, but osm may not > be clear enough to those who aren't intimately involved, how about > openstreetmap-client? If it pulls in half of GNOME when you install it, its nice to have the name "gnome" in there somewhere. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120923230831.GX8568@tal
Pulseaudio (was ... Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports)
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:44:21AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > My most recent experience with PulseAudio came when I noticed that WoW > (run through Wine) was producing crackling, stuttering sound again; this > was during the late months before the wheezy release. > > I tried half-a-dozen things, without noticeable change (except for the > things which led to no sound at all); eventually I noticed that some > PulseAudio packages had been installed, apparently as recommendations or > dependencies of other things. I tried a few things to disable use of > PulseAudio without removing it, without affecting the problem; I then > removed all *pulse* packages I could, and the problem was > gone. Me too, and I don't even use a DE! One day sound just stopped working. Removing all of the *pulse* packages I could got sound working again. I didn't mess with anything either. If there _suddenly_ appears a bad smell in your house and you find the cause, do you a) Remove the cause? b) Waste time by trying to find out why it smells? -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130717042936.GC11770@tal
Re: Missing makefile
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 10:53:33AM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > > And compiling kernel modules is off-topic for debian-user. It > should, however, be on-topic here. Correct, but you are more likely to be directed to debian-mentors. Try there. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130731150903.GA9392@tal
Re: Bug#718791: ITP: mikutter -- Simple, powerful and moeful twitter client
On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 10:35:01PM +0900, HIGUCHI Daisuke (VDR dai) wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: "HIGUCHI Daisuke (VDR dai)" > > * Package name: mikutter > Version : 0.2.2.1318 > Upstream Author : Toshiaki Asai > * URL : http://mikutter.hachune.net/ > * License : GPL-3, CC-BY-SA-3.0 > Programming Lang: Ruby > Description : Simple, powerful and moeful twitter client ^^ > Mikutter is a simple, powerful and moeful twitter client. ^^ I can't find any definition of "moeful" and therefore is more of a hindrance to understanding the description than an aid. >* Followee, Follower list No such word. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130805235929.GC23885@tal
Re: Bug#719211: ITP: lnav -- nurses-based log file viewer
On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 11:44:11AM +0200, Salvatore Bonaccorso wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Salvatore Bonaccorso > > * Package name: lnav > Version : 0.5.0 > Upstream Author : Timothy Stack > * URL : http://tstack.github.io/lnav/ > * License : BSD > Programming Lang: C++ > Description : nurses-based log file viewer root@tal:~# apt-cache search ncurses | wc -l 147 root@tal:~# apt-cache search nurses | wc -l 0 root@tal:~# -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130810064213.GE11757@tal
Re: Bits from the Release Team (Jessie freeze info)
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 09:28:04PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On 13/10/13 19:47, Niels Thykier wrote: > > (Not sure of the origins of the rime; I remember it being used in "V > > from Vendetta" though.) > > As a Brit I guess I'm as surprised by people not knowing this as some US > folks are when I don't have plans for the 4th July. What's so special about the 4th of July? :) -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131014110719.GB3831@tal
Re: Please assume good faith (was Re: systemd effectively mandatory now due to GNOME)
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 11:00:42PM +0900, Norbert Preining wrote: > On Do, 24 Okt 2013, Charles Plessy wrote: > > at this point, I would like to point at a very important part of the > > "revised code of conduct" that Wouter is proposing: "Assume good faith". > > On Do, 24 Okt 2013, Adam Borowski wrote: > > My apologies, I overreacted. > > > Oh holy s...sunshine (I have to be careful, otherwise I will be ostracised > again) ... now that useless "political correctness" is taking > over again. Just remember that if someone is offended it doesn't mean they are right. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131026082804.GO358@tal
Re: Proposal: switch default desktop to xfce
[Please don't top post on this mailing list!] On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 06:45:02PM +0200, Zlatan Todoric wrote: > And just bashing GNOME DE for systemd and GNOME Classic > is not good enough point because probably the largest user base > of Debian user use GNOME. That is because it is installed by default! (unless you explicitly opt-out.) -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131026112612.GR358@tal
Re: Introducing codesearch.debian.net, a regexp code search engine
On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 07:05:43PM +0100, Michael Stapelberg wrote: > Hi, > > I hereby announce a new Debian project: Debian Code Search. [...] > You can use the search engine at http://codesearch.debian.net/ > Here are a few sample queries: > • http://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=workaround+package%3Alinux > • http://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=XCreateWindow > • http://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=AnyEvent%3A%3AI3+filetype%3Aperl > > The corresponding thesis (and source code, of course) will be released > I hope you find it useful and would love to hear your feedback. Just in case the correct use of English is important (and I hope it is) then the lines: amount of regexp results: amount of source results: should be altered to either: Number of regexp results: Number of source results: or simply regexp results: source results: See: http://grammar.about.com/od/words/a/amount.htm http://grammarist.com/usage/amount-number/ -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121107201157.GI24124@tal
Re: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 01:20:42PM -0600, Kevin Toppins wrote: > I do not want to fight with you. > > I do not want to silence you. > > I do not want to _force_ you to think a certain way. But I would be > pleased if you would be willing to try a different way of thinking. Me too, please read: http://catb.org/jargon/html/T/top-post.html -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121120040207.GD4413@tal
Re: Canonical pushes upstart into user session - systemd developer complains
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 08:43:07PM +0200, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote: > Hello! > > Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez has written on Saturday, 24 November, at 19:20: > >FYI, Yet another episode of the Linux init drama: > > > >https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/Specs/RaringUpstartUserSessions > > >https://plus.google.com/115547683951727699051/posts/ZZWLtq6tYdn > > > It is only me who thinks that it is going by Windows steps? With only > difference Windows has more manpower to manage that bloated monster bugs. https://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailarchive/lau/2012/11/21/194431 There is a rather bad smell regarding all this. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121125094827.GI9596@tal
Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 03:40:41PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > the discussion that systemd is a bad design because it uses the same > configuration file syntax as Windows ini files or XDG .desktop files, > adding the statement that these are too difficult to parse. If you are refering to my post: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/11/msg00700.html Please read it again, and read it all the way through. My post was in response to the statement: "It is only me who thinks that it is going by Windows steps?" in post: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/11/msg00681.html JFTR, it was your post: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/11/msg00701.html which sparked the discussion regarding the merits of .ini vs .xml. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121201175408.GF17068@tal
Re: Mplayer not running with user privileges
On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 03:47:27PM +0400, Игорь Пашев wrote: > 2012/12/7 Andrei POPESCU > > This is list is for development of Debian, your question should be > > posted on debian-user instead (or one of the debian-user- > > lists). > > > This makes me think that the right list have been choosen: :-) Development of Debian, not development of mplayer. :) -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121207133456.GB5703@tal
Re: Debian bugs #800000 and #1000000 contest
On Sat, Feb 09, 2013 at 05:16:06PM +, Neil Williams wrote: > On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 08:23:57 -0800 > Tyler MacDonald wrote: > > > "An obscure french DD". Wow, what a way to describe a person. Did that > > person kill your pet squirrel or something? :-) > > Christian is referring to himself. He might have killed his own pet > squirrel - he hasn't said - but he's more likely to have overfed it on > cheese & then drowned it in wine (or is that a waste of good > cheese)? Does that improve their flavour? -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130210094343.GB21983@tal
Re: so long, and thanks for all the fish
On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 01:55:24AM +0100, Aneurin Price wrote: > On 4 April 2013 18:28, wrote: > > > There is apparently no mode of argument, or "style of > > communications", which is capable of penetrating the Debian > > bureaucracy. It is impervious, even to patches which have been > > previously solicited. Silly me, for taking that seriously. > > > > You need to remember that the Debian project is essentially masturbation. > Nobody likes to be told they're doing it wrong. Are you pulling my leg? -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130407110010.GC24249@tal
Re: Bug#706160: general: it should be easier for ordinary developers to work with Debian packages
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 03:04:52PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 02:20:53PM +0200, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote: > > dh_make -f ../foo-1.tar.gz > > dpkg-buildpackage > > I think one valid point the OP makes which each of these suggestions — in > isolation — seem to miss, is there are *too many ways to do it*. The > suggestions you (and others) make are great, but how discoverable are they to > a > newbie packager? Conversely, how (non-)discoverable are the myriad bad ways to > do things (the hello package is a good example of this.) +1 -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130427192239.GD6353@tal
Re: Debian Developers team in Launchpad
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:08:06AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 08:17:16AM +0900, Tae Wong wrote: > > Tagliamonte: > > Your native language is Korean and if you'll need to post questions > > about Debian in Korean language. > > I will not buy this record, it is scratched. SCNR http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NNm1p1Y-XQ (Puts that remark in context.) -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131220123207.GB13927@tal
Re: Bug#736604: ITP: r10k -- Smarter Puppet deployment, powered by killer robots
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 03:04:33PM +0100, Sebastien Badia wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Sebastien Badia > > * Package name: r10k > Version : 1.1.2 > Upstream Author : Adrien Thebo > * URL : https://github.com/adrienthebo/r10k > * License : Apache2 > Programming Lang: Ruby > Description : Smarter Puppet deployment, powered by killer robots A misleading description doesn't help alleviate erroneous search results. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140125152439.GA30373@tal
Re: openrc: Updated patches making openrc work properly on Debian GNU/Hurd
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 03:29:28AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jan 25, Svante Signell wrote: > > > Whatever you have decided about Linux only, this is relevant > > information. Debian is about versatility in the Unix/Posix way, not any > No, it's not. Next. Does the NEXT OS still exist? SCNR -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140126115855.GE19593@tal
Re: Bug#736826: ITP: tea4cups -- The Swiss Army's knife of advanced CUPS administrators
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:02:55AM +0100, Mike Gabriel wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Mike Gabriel > > * Package name: tea4cups > Version : 3.13~alpha1+svn3565 > Upstream Author : Jerome Alet > * URL : http://www.pykota.com/software/tea4cups > * License : GPL > Programming Lang: Python > Description : The Swiss Army's knife of advanced CUPS administrators > . > Tea4CUPS is the Swiss Army's knife of the advanced CUPS administrator, and Sorry, but I think you'll find that it's actually 'Swiss Army knife' -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140128131958.GF24708@tal
Re: Bug#737563: ITP: telegram-cli -- Command-line interface for Telegram
On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 08:52:41PM +, Cleto Martín wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: "Cleto Martín" > > * Package name: telegram-cli > Version : 0.1 > Upstream Author : Vitaly Valtman > * URL : https://github.com/vysheng/tg > * License : GPL > Programming Lang: C > Description : Command-line interface for Telegram messenger > > Telegram messenger is a cloud-based instant messaging platform > designed for smart phones and similar to Whatsapp but more flexible, > and powerful. You can send messages, photos, videos and documents to > people who are in your phone contacts (and have Telegram). Telegram > also supports secret chats whose provide a private (encrypted) way of ^ That should be "which provides"? > communication. > . > This package contains a command-line based client for Telegram with > the following features: > * Colored terminal messages. > * Message management: history, stats, etc. > * Group chat: create and manage groups. > * Secret chat: secured and encrypted conversations. > * Contact management: add/edit/remove contacts. > * Multimedia support: send/load photos and videos. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140204045207.GD31701@tal
Re: Bug#727708: Fsck SystemD and its developers and its users. GR to override this please.
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 04:18:50PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 03:51:33PM +0100, Salvo Tomaselli wrote: > > Well if a bug can be solved by killing the buggy process and getting better > > functionality than when the process is running is certainly a very very bad > > bug! > > As mentioned before: File a bug. There is no bug if its not installed. Same happened to me. Purging pulseaudio allowed the audio to work once again. 1st man: It hurts when I bang my head against the wall. 2nd man: Well, stop doing it then! -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140212071653.GI17812@tal
Re: Need advice on building a package
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:06:10PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > This mailinglist is, after all, a list about developing Debian. If your > interest is only in *using* Debian e.g. for own package development, > then our debian-user lists are more appropriate for that: > https://lists.debian.org/users.html People asking on debian-user about packaging normally get referred to debian-mentors, after all that's where the expertise is. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140214041005.GA20059@tal
Re: pulseaudio related problems....
On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 10:17:52AM +0100, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Quoting John Paul Adrian Glaubitz (glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de): > > On 02/15/2014 09:22 AM, Christian PERRIER wrote: > > > So, before doing so: will that be helpful? > > > > I think most people simply don't configure PulseAudio correctly. They > > have the assumption that sound cards are still simple devices with > > one input jack and one output jack and any application using it just > > has to find the sound card and output its audio signal. > > I'm one of these people. I indeed don't remember installing pulseaudio > voluntarily. It probably came out as a Recommends from something else Same here, I didn't ask for it to be installed, and I have APT::Install-Recommends "false"; > (my system runs unstable, with KDE as DE and hasn't been reinstalled > since.well, maybe woody? :-))) I'm not running a DE, just FVWM, so don't really see why pulseaudio was installed on a system if it was a DE dependency. > > So, in order to be able to properly configure PulseAudio, install > > "pavucontrol" # apt-get install pavucontrol [...] 0 upgraded, 17 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 7,500 kB of archives. After this operation, 38.0 MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n Wow! All this to configure a piece of software I didn't ask for, when my set up was working perfectly before it was installed. Please, let's try and use a bit of common sense here. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140217030212.GG24018@tal
Re: default init on non-Linux platforms
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 06:31:12PM +, Neil McGovern wrote: > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 07:18:30PM +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > > [0] Can we haz a release name? > > > > Sure. It's Debian 8.0, "zurg". [0] > > Neil > [0] Note: may be a lie. Umm, Debian 9.0? -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140219103708.GE28892@tal
Re: Debian default desktop environment
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 08:18:41AM +1100, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: > On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 14:16:15 Undefined User wrote: > > The problem is that right now Debian project is changing its default > > desktop environment, and I think that this is not a good move. Of course, > > it all depends on where the project is aiming at, specially on which users. > > But, for normal users, Gnome 3 is a way better experience than Xfce. > > I think Xfce is much better *default* desktop environment (DE) than Gnome. > > As KDE fan I do not like Gnome. Those who forget to choose DE in installer > (just like I did more than once) and end up with Xfce will have a lot less to Yeah, forgetting to press space instead of enter can lead to disaster! :) -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140404094052.GI26381@tal
Re: Debian default desktop environment
[Please don't top post on this mailing list.] On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 10:03:46AM -0300, Undefined User wrote: > Well, it's almost impossible to avoid personal judgments on this matter. > This involves personal taste. But when talking about "new users" or > "not-that-advanced users", I'm really suggesting Gnome 3 to be the choice > of the project. Having a sensible default is not about "new users" or "not-that-advanced users"; there are derivatives which cater for that sort of thing. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140404132543.GB1288@tal
Re: Debian default desktop environment
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 09:27:00PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > previously on this list Jakub Wilk contributed: > > > * Gunnar Wolf , 2014-04-04, 23:22: > > >- Media player: mplayer (on libcaca, of course) > > > > With its 4 RC bugs, it doesn't look like mplayer is going to be part of > > jessie. > > > > I can't tell, is that sarcasm, I hope so as it is the only player hat > does certain things or has enough performance for some video on > some machines. apt-cache show mpv -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140408034205.GA30892@tal
Re: Why Debian
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 10:43:29AM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: > I love democracy, where everyone has a say and have a chance to make > the changes they want rather than depending on someone. Just remember that Democracy is where 13 lions and 5 sheep vote for what to have for dinner. :( -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140413112820.GB24891@tal
Re: Bug#747920: ITP: libdatabase-dumptruck -- document-oriented interface to a SQLite database
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 12:56:34AM +0200, Lubomir Rintel wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Debian Perl Group > > * Package name: libdatabase-dumptruck > Version : 1.2 > Upstream Author : Lubomir Rintel > * URL : https://metacpan.org/release/Database-DumpTruck > * License : Artistic or GPL-1+ > Programming Lang: Perl > Description : document-oriented interface to a SQLite database > > Database::DumpTruck is a simple document-oriented interface to a SQLite What does "document-oriented interface" mean? > I am packaging this so that it's conventiently available for use with Morph ^ Shouldn't the package name be "libdatabase-dumptruck-perl"? -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140513001321.GA1787@tal
Re: Bug#749099: ITP: conv -- Simple ASCII,binary,decimal,hex converter
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 11:53:15PM -0300, Marcio de Souza Olivera wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Marcio de Souza Olivera > > * Package name: conv > Version : 0.02 > Upstream Author : Xfuw89 > * URL : https://github.com/xfuw89/BinDecHexAscii > * License : GPL3 > Programming Lang: C > Description : Simple ASCII,binary,decimal,hex converter > > Conv is a program that converts the argument from standard input to > the numbering system or character set (ASCII) specified in the option > and prints the result on the screen. That way you can perform the > following conversions: Binary to decimal, Binary to hex, Binary to ASCII, > Decimal to binary, Decimal to hex, Decimal to ASCII, Hex to binary, > Hex to decimal, Hex to ASCII, ASCII to binary, ASCII to decimal, > ASCII to hex. Perhaps a 'and vice versa' would suffice? -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140524055455.GC6524@tal
Re: Bug#750546: ITP: sluice -- rate limiting data piping tool
On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 11:39:42AM +0100, Colin Ian King wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Colin Ian King > > * Package name: sluice > Version : 0.01.00 > Upstream Author : Colin King > * URL : http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~cking/sluice > * License : GPL-2+ > Programming Lang: C > Description : rate limiting data piping tool > > Sluice reads from standard input and write to standard ^ writes > output at a specified data rate. This can be useful -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140609115925.GI21959@tal
Re: length of a package extended description
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 01:24:20PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2015-01-10 13:34:37 +0100, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > > Nonsense, the format is trivial and stable. > > I've never seen that it was stable. > > > A quick one-line-ish fix for this (requires a modern shell) is: > > > > apt-cache show texlive-latex-extra | tr '\n' $'\001' | sed $'s/\001 / /g' | > > tr $'\001' '\n' | sort | less +-S > > which doesn't work at all, neither with zsh nor with bash. Works here, just have to press return on the 'Chop long lines (press RETURN)' message. (bash, version 4.3.30) ditto for zsh (zsh 5.0.7) -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150112124257.GA746@tal
Re: Bug#775456: ITP: sankore -- interactive whiteboard interface
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 04:41:22PM -0400, David Prévot wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: David Prévot > > * Package name: sankore > Version : 2.5.1 > Upstream Author : Nicolas Nenon > * URL : http://open-sankore.org/ > * License : GPL-3 > Programming Lang: C++ > Description : interactive whiteboard interface > Open-Sankoré aims at choreographing educational content, allowing to: > * Insert any type of document (text, images, flash animations, videos) > * Access web resources without leaving Open-Sankoré > * Comment on any content > * Display the essential part of your teaching message > * Share documents simply > > Any digital interactive tables or interactive beamers, graphic tablets, > PC tablets and any type of computers should be adapted. ^^ Is that correct? Are you sure it's not "could" or "can"? -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150117135845.GB32061@tal
Re: Who gets an email when with bugreports [was: Re: Unauthorised activity surrounding tbb package]
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 01:03:52AM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Mon, 2015-01-19 at 08:37 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:06 AM, Don Armstrong wrote: > > > > > I'm going to put together a bit more firm of a proposal in the next few > > > weeks, but I think that basically everything but nnn-done@ and > > > nnn-submitter@ should be no different from mailing nnn@, and until I > > > allow submitters to opt out of e-mail, mailing nnn-submitter@ should be > > > no different from e-mailing nnn@ either. > > > > I'd very much appreciate the ability to not be auto-subscribed to > > every bug so please do implement the opt-out thing, preferably before > > this change is rolled out. > > > > Personally, I think subscriptions should work like this: > > > > The default should be to auto-subscribe submitters and contributors to bugs. > [...] > > No, this would turn the BTS into a (worse) spam vector. If a user submits a bug report then doesn't it make sense that the user would want to be able to be kept informed of any progress updates? Or an option in reportbug to do so, turned on by default. It could put an X- header in the email. That way users of reportbug can choose to be 'spammed' or not. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150121040736.GG31842@tal
Re: Bug#780155: ITP: baculum -- Baculum WebGUI tool for Bacula Community program
On Mon, Mar 09, 2015 at 10:13:31PM +0100, gani wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Marcin Haba > > * Package name: baculum > Version : 7.0+git20150208 > Upstream Author : Marcin Haba > * URL : http://www.bacula.org/ > * License : AGPLv3 > Programming Lang: PHP > Description : Baculum WebGUI tool for Bacula Community program > > Baculum is web based tool to manage, administrate and monitor Bacula services. > >From server side Baculum is written in PHP and works basing on PRADO > >Framework. > Baculum interface enables e.g. to run Bacula backup and restore actions, take > access to Bacula console via web, watch backup graphs and others. > > - why is this package useful/relevant? > > This package allows access to Bacula basic administrative tasks via web > intreface. > > - is it a dependency for another package? > > Yes, it is. Baculum uses external toolset - PRADO Framework. > Additionally Baculum uses external JavaScript libraries. Is that correct? I thought a dependency was when *another* package *depended on it* to function. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150310125534.GB10702@tal
Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 08:00:52AM -0700, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > On Jul 15 2015, Bas Wijnen wrote: > > As Jakub was saying: just starting it up without even visiting a site yet > > will > > do a POST and a *few dozen* GET requests. Shouldn't it be waiting with its > > checks until it actually knows what to check? What is it sending them at > > browser startup? > > Why don't you check the code? That won't answer the why, just the how. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150717174016.GB22734@tal
Re: system upgrade by systemd
On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 10:42:13PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le jeudi 27 août 2015 à 05:22 +0200, Michael Meskes a écrit : > > Besides, what causes the system to make those package downloads before? > > I may be behind a slow or expensive line and don't want any downloads > > performed at all. > > It’s gnome-software in sid, or g-s-d in jessie, querying PackageKit for JFTR, what is g-s-d? gnome-software-? -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X
Re: system upgrade by systemd
On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 05:38:36AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Chris Bannister (2015-08-30): > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 10:42:13PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > > Le jeudi 27 août 2015 à 05:22 +0200, Michael Meskes a écrit : > > > > Besides, what causes the system to make those package downloads before? > > > > I may be behind a slow or expensive line and don't want any downloads > > > > performed at all. > > > > > > It’s gnome-software in sid, or g-s-d in jessie, querying PackageKit for > > > > JFTR, what is g-s-d? gnome-software-? > > kibi@arya:~$ apt-file search /usr/bin/g*-s*-d* > gnome-settings-daemon: /usr/bin/gnome-settings-daemon tal% apt-cache policy apt-file apt-file: Installed: (none) Candidate: 2.5.4 Version table: 2.5.4 0 990 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main i386 Packages Nice idea though, although a filename in /usr/bin doesn't necessarily equate to the package name. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X
Re: DAK Commands for Bikesheds
On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 08:39:19PM +0200, Jeffrey Ratcliffe wrote: > On 23 September 2015 at 00:16, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > unzip ; strip ; touch ; grep ; finger ; mount ; fsck ; more ; yes ; umount > > ; sleep > > Has anyone mentioned git? No, nor split. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X
Re: Re: support for merged /usr in Debian
On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 10:56:21AM +0100, Eric Valette wrote: > Russ Allbery writes: > > >For one specific example, it's become quite clear over the past year that > >systemd has achieved the same status as abortion debates in US politics. > >Not only is it clear that we will *never* stop arguing about systemd, > >opposition to or support of systemd has turned into a tribal identity > >marker for at least some people. > > Your example comparing systemd debate vs abortion debate is definitively > insane : abortion is a philosophical debate that mainly roots whether you Unbelievable!! What part don't you understand? He says it's "achieved the same status", even I, understood at least that much. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X
