Re: Posting to debian-bugs-dist is not allowed
On 6/29/07, List Management wrote: > >Hi, >Is there an easy way to make a chart automatically include new rows as >they are entered? >I currently have a spreadsheet with three columns: A, B and C. >Column A contains dates (i.e. the period, ex: June 2005) >Column B and C contains figures for the period. ><!I made a post FS/FT A? recently and when I finished it the message said >your post will take 3-10 hours to appear. Not more than 5 minutes >later I received a E-mail reply to the post. I could not view my post >until 5.5 hours later at 12:30 in the morning. I replied back to the >E-mail and asked him how he seen the post so quickly. He said he just >seen it come up and that the post time delay may have something to do >with my ISP! I sent a question to Google groups support but their >reply was they were very busy and it may take some time to respond! I >checked their FAQ's to no avail. My ISP is a cable company DSL hi >speed line. >Can anyone shed some light on this. Is there anything the member can >do differently to see these posts as soon as they are released. If it >is the ISP what do you tell them to do differently? Is there a better >URL or IP address to access?? >Appreciate any replies, >Rich >When I copy and paste printed text to news group post, the line breaks from the original publication are retained and result in >something like: >-- >POSTED 8:54 a.m. EST; UPDATED 9:21 a.m. EST, March 5, 2007 >PACKERS CHASING BELL >Bell was acquired by the Lions last week as part of the Dre' Bly deal. As we've reported, both Bell and former Broncos tackle >George Foster are candidates to be traded again. >We're also told that the Packers contacted the Bears about the availability of running back Thomas Jones, but the Bears said that he >is not available. It remains to be seen whether the Bears would be willing to trade him to a team other than their intra-division >arch-rivals. >http://www.img9.org/uploads/a341b77b81a2e9e9f484e5bb312783c0.jpg";> > >-- >I think it might have something to do with >Tools/Options/Send/News Sending Format >Can the off the automatic word wrap be disabled? >I've heard that there's another Two-Wheeled Tuesday somewhere >west of the city. Anyone been there or know of any others in the >area? >I've seen a different version of the Macross Plus LDs called >Macross Plus International Edition. I asked somebody about >them and my friend said they're supposed to be something >similar to the Pioneer LDs, english on the digital track, japanese >on the analog, and closed captioning. Can somebody please >confirm this? (so I can go out and buy these LDs right now :) >Wilson Verardi >I'm selling on eBay (link below) a brand new condition copy of the "jp >airline-fleets international edition 96/97". This is the most >comprehensive guide to the airline fleets of all countries. Includes >info on complete fleets, types of aircraft, numbers, registration >numbers, etc. A very impressive book. > What the hell is this? -- Ben Goodger B.F. Goodger, Age 16½
Re: Debian on the Desktop - plans for Lenny?
On 08/08/2007, Tim Hull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm a new (though fairly knowledgeable) Debian user and possibly a > prospective developer. Anyway, though I do like Debian a lot, one thing is > obvious - it lags somewhat behind as a desktop (or laptop) distribution as > compared to many other distributions (notably Ubuntu, which is of course > based on Debian). > > Anyway, I'm curious - what are the plans for Lenny to help bridge this > gap? I have heard the DPL's statements about "making Debian sexy", and I'm > wondering what the plans are and how I can get involved. A few particular > areas of interest for me are: > > * Making laptop frequency scaling/suspend/etc work "out of the box" when > Laptop task is installed > We already have this on the desktop, from what I can see (there is evidence of a scaling-module-loading-thingummy running on boot) * Installing all (free) codecs that are commonly used by default in the > Desktop task (FAAC is one that comes to mind as one that could be added, as > it is in main now) > A good idea, but this might swell the CDs beyond what is desirable. * Simplifying debian-installer for new users (this could include by > streamlining the steps as well as having an Ubuntu-like 1-CD live installer) > The Ubuntu installer is a horrible mistake IMO. The installer is streamlined as much as is possible, and we already have a perfectly good live cd project (debian live.) * De-uglifying the default fonts - currently, many applications in Debian > use poor-quality fonts or even *bitmap fonts*. > Which programs are these? The default for GTK is Bitstream Vera Sans (or clone), which is perfectly good. * Simplify installation of out-of-tree kernel modules, possibly by adapting > Ubuntu's Restricted Manager to work with m-a. Non-free drivers would *only* > be displayed if non-free is in the sources.list. > This is a good idea. Simplifying the installation of non-free graphics card drivers should also be a priority, though not to the extent Canonical are currently planning. -- Ben Goodger B.F. Goodger, Age 16½
Re: Simplify installation of non-free? (was: Debian on the Desktop - plans for Lenny?)
On 08/08/2007, Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Ben Goodger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Simplifying the installation of non-free graphics card drivers > > should also be a priority, though not to the extent Canonical are > > currently planning. > > I strongly disagree. The installation of non-free should *not* be a > priority for the Debian project, since this works against the explicit > goal to create a *free* operating system. > > Individual developers can work on non-free to their heart's content, > but it should not get any priority from the Debian project. Oh, for the love of god, not more of this... If these (read: nvidia/ati) drivers were DFSG-compliant, they'd be included by default. Since this is not possible, it should be made as easy as possible to install them. The only thing is to ensure that it remains an opt-in, since people must choose to run proprietary software. The free operating system is all very well, but obviously people cannot be forced to have freedom: they must have the freedom of choice - and once they have made that choice, and been told that they forfeit all respect, right to help, etc etc, then the issue becomes one of usability. At this point, the problem is not "should we make installing _non-free_ software easy?" but "how can we make installing this _program_ painless?" -- Ben Goodger B.F. Goodger, Age 16½
Re: Simplify installation of non-free? (was: Debian on the Desktop - plans for Lenny?)
On 09/08/07, Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The objection is making it a priority over supporting free drivers or
> diverting people working on supporting vendors who provide DFSG free
> drivers by making it a distribution wide priority.
The free drivers are perfectly well supported as they are, and are
excellently maintained by a vast number of talented people from many
projects. The non-free ones are god-awful as a simple result of them being
closed source, and their installation and use can be calamatous for many,
and hence they require special coddling, methinks I am not in favour of
favouring anything over free software - if it were up to me, I'd just buy
one of Intel's excellent and proper-game-capable GPUs (which obviously I
can't, because they don't make any) - but once we have got over the fairly
simple hurdle of enforced freedom the issue just turns into a question of
how to make non-free drivers less nightmarish to install.
Since you appear to be interested in it quite a bit, you'd be well served by
> making it your priority.
I'm grossly underqualied in that respect, I fear. I can outline precisely
what needs to be done to make nvidia-glx, for example, bearable[1] (and it
does not involve a specialised GUI, god forbid) but am in no position at all
to do so :(
--
Ben Goodger
B.F. Goodger, Age 16½
[1] metapackage "nvidia-graphics-nonfree" or similar to not conflict with
the similarly named source package, to depend on nvidia-glx and the current
nvidia-kernel-{uname -r} and other appropriate packages, and a moderately
intelligent post-install script to parse /etc/X11/xorg.conf for the
appropriate settings and flag suspicious lines, with references to
appropriate wiki/man pages... eventually, this should become an "aptitude
install nvidia-graphics-nonfree" situation, without manual
xorg.conffiddling, and without bludgeoning the entire system
Automatix-style (may
require many weeks of tedious regexen, but it would IMO be worth it to Do
Things Properly, as is the Debian way.)
Re: Debian on the Desktop - plans for Lenny?
On 09/08/07, Luis Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > having a console tasksel is not enough ... someone was developing a gtk+ > front end ... right? running "tasksel --new-install" gets you a debconf window, which is either curses, gtk, qt etc depending on your debconf conf. -- Ben Goodger B.F. Goodger, Age 16½
Re: Debian's Linux kernel continues to regress on freedom
On 13/09/2007, Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes. It is appears to be an excellent way to decide to ship broken > software: > > > http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/2007/09/12/ubuntu-technical-board-votes-on-compiz-for-ubuntu-7-10 > http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/13/1721212 Making jokes about the mentally handicapped is not suitable material for this list. -- Benjamin F. Goodger ~ design and ideas lab ~
Re: Menu categories
On 21/10/2007, Sune Vuorela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have tried to make a script that converts desktop files into reasonable > menu files. I have trouble understanding the difference. Please elaborate. -- Benjamin F. Goodger ~ design and ideas lab ~
Re: Orphaned packages with quite some users
On 31/10/2007, Luk Claes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://packages.qa.debian.org/libg/libglade.html > http://packages.qa.debian.org/libv/libvncserver.html AFAIK these are unofficially or officially deprecated: libglade is now replaced by something nearly identical or perhaps merely renamed as a part of GNOME; libvncserver has dropped out of use and been replaced by vlc. -- Benjamin F. Goodger ~ design and ideas lab ~ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS/S/M/B d- s+:- a--- c++$ UL++>+++ P--- L++>+++ E- W+++ N+++ k? w--- O? M- V? PS++(+++) PE-() Y? t(+) 5? X-- R- !tv(+) b++>+++ DI+(++) D+ G e> h! r* y- --END GEEK CODE BLOCK--
Re: Orphaned packages with quite some users
On 31/10/2007, Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 31-Oct-07, 12:39 (CDT), Ben Goodger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > libvncserver has dropped out of use and been replaced by vlc. > > Huh? VNC != VLC. Oh yes, misread the N. Whoops. -- Benjamin F. Goodger ~ design and ideas lab ~ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS/S/M/B d- s+:- a--- c++$ UL++>+++ P--- L++>+++ E- W+++ N+++ k? w--- O? M- V? PS++(+++) PE-() Y? t(+) 5? X-- R- !tv(+) b++>+++ DI+(++) D+ G e> h! r* y- --END GEEK CODE BLOCK--
