Bug in Radeon in kernel 2.6.8?

2005-05-24 Thread Art Edwards
I have just finished compiling both the 2.6.6 and 2.6.8 kernels and
there appears to be a bug in the radeon_state piece of code in the 2.6.8
kernel that is absent in the 2.6.6 kernel. I receive the following
compilation errors (2.6.8)

  CC  drivers/char/drm/radeon_state.o
  drivers/char/drm/radeon_state.c: In function `radeon_cp_cmdbuf':
  drivers/char/drm/radeon_state.c:2316: warning: implicit declaration of
  function `drm_alloc'
  drivers/char/drm/radeon_state.c:2316: warning: assignment makes
  pointer from integer without a cast
  drivers/char/drm/radeon_state.c:2416: warning: implicit declaration of
  function `drm_free'

That are absent from the compilation of 2.6.6. 

This leads to

drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x51d71): In function `radeon_cp_cmdbuf':
: undefined reference to `drm_free'
drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x51daf): In function `radeon_cp_cmdbuf':
: undefined reference to `drm_free'
drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x524a7): In function `radeon_cp_cmdbuf':
: undefined reference to `drm_alloc'
make: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 1

I can remove these errors by not using the CONFIG_DRM_RADEON option. In
the make menuconfig proceedure, this amounts to just saying no to

ATI Radeon

in the Character devices menu that is under the Device Drivers option of
the main menu.

Art Edwards


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Re: Bug in Radeon in kernel 2.6.8?

2005-06-01 Thread Art Edwards
I'm posting this to the group to notify that the package 
/kernel-source-2.6.8-16.deb
still has the radeon bug. I'm clipping the last part of the compilation

drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x51d71): In function `radeon_cp_cmdbuf':
: undefined reference to `drm_free'
drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x51daf): In function `radeon_cp_cmdbuf':
: undefined reference to `drm_free'
drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x524a7): In function `radeon_cp_cmdbuf':
: undefined reference to `drm_alloc'
make: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 1

So Bug#301488 should still be open.

Art Edwards

On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 05:25:24PM -0400, Marty wrote:
> Art,
> 
> I owe you an apology.  I found out that my kernel sources were
> old.  When I updated them, I ran into the bug.  A web search
> indicates that this bug was filed as Bug#301488.  Here is the
> link I found referencing the bug:
> 
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2005/05/msg00377.html
> 
> The bug was supposedly fixed, but I haven't seen the replacement
> package yet.
> 
> Marty
> 
> 
> 
> Marty wrote:
> >Art Edwards wrote:
> >>Marty:
> >>
> >>I attach the config file and the snip of interaction with make bzImage
> >
> >Still works here (see new attachment).  I'm stumped, and I would propose 
> >that you
> >take it back to the list again, to see if anyone else has any ideas.  Good 
> >luck!
> >
> >Marty
> >
> >
> >>
> >>Art
> >>
> >>chalcogenide:/usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.8# make menuconfig
> >>scripts/kconfig/mconf arch/i386/Kconfig
> >>#
> >># using defaults found in .config
> >>#
> >>
> >>
> >>*** End of Linux kernel configuration.
> >>*** Execute 'make' to build the kernel or try 'make help'.
> >>
> >>chalcogenide:/usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.8# make bzImage
> >>  SPLIT   include/linux/autoconf.h -> include/config/*
> >>  make[1]: `arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.s' is up to date.
> >>CHK include/linux/compile.h
> >>LD  drivers/char/drm/built-in.o
> >>LD  drivers/char/built-in.o
> >>LD  drivers/built-in.o
> >>GEN .version
> >>CHK include/linux/compile.h
> >>UPD include/linux/compile.h
> >>CC  init/version.o
> >>LD      init/built-in.o
> >>LD  .tmp_vmlinux1
> >>drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x51d71): In function `radeon_cp_cmdbuf':
> >>: undefined reference to `drm_free'
> >>drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x51daf): In function `radeon_cp_cmdbuf':
> >>: undefined reference to `drm_free'
> >>drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x524a7): In function `radeon_cp_cmdbuf':
> >>: undefined reference to `drm_alloc'
> >>make: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 1
> >>
> >
> 

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xmgrace ddd again

2006-07-07 Thread Art Edwards
Neither xmgrace nor ddd will allow text input for AMD-64 architecture.
This is a severe problem. I'm writing to the developers list because
their common problem probably means there is, perhaps, a library issue.
I shouild point out that I have built from sources and have exactly the same
problem. For what it's worth, I have exactly the same problem in fedora core 5,
but not on Fedora Corre 4.

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Broken applications: Could we be honest?

2006-07-08 Thread Art Edwards
I have been writing to the list about two applications that
are so broken on the AMD64 distribution that they render the
box pretty useless. I'm sure one could say that two measly
applications are no big deal. However, if you do scientific computation 
for a living, and two of the primary tools are broken, you now have
a rather clumsy paperweight where a computer should be. You could
argue that we should simply learn new tools, and we could, but we 
should really be doing science instead.

This brought up the question, who uses 64 bit Linux anyway?
Surely gamers do not drive the 64-bit linux community. It can't be the desktop
community, seeing that the standard office tool doesn't really 
work for 64-bit. I would think that scientific and engineering 
users would drive this community. Besides the instruction set, which 
can probably give some speed, but wouldn't justify the cost, the address
space in 64-bit OS's mean that we can solve much larger problems. Unles you're
not doing some heavy-duty, memory-intensive computation, 64-bits seems
to be simply a status symbol.

For compute servers the amd64 distribution is fine. All you really need are 
languages (compilers), libraries and decent MPICH. We run our small, 32 bit
Beowulf on debian with abandon, and from my experience, I look forward to
converting it to amd64 ... with a 32-bit node where things actually work.

Unless such core pieces as the debugging tool (ddd) and the data display tool
(xmgrace) are working, it is dishonest to pretend that the 64-bit version 
is ready for testing. It would be very nice if you, and other distro's, were 
to put appropriate caveats on the websites, saying that 64-bit is really not 
ready for the prime-time desktop. That way, we could make better purchasing 
decisions.


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Re: Broken applications: Could we be honest?

2006-07-12 Thread Art Edwards
Thanks for your response.

We have the pgi compiler on the head node of a very
old, 32-bit beowulf. I do my production calculations on
a very nice large, 64-bit cluster at a national laboratory, but
my desktop machine had, until about 6 weeks ago, been a
1.4 GHz 32-bit machine. The graphics had become hopelessly
bogged down. So, ironically, our main internal compute engine
is 32-bit and my desktop is 64. Go figure. I'm using my
laptop for most code development and for making xmgrace 
figures for publication.

Art Edwards

On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 05:40:37PM +0100, Jimmy Tang wrote:
> On 7/8/06, Art Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >I have been writing to the list about two applications that
> >are so broken on the AMD64 distribution that they render the
> >box pretty useless. I'm sure one could say that two measly
> >applications are no big deal. However, if you do scientific computation
> >for a living, and two of the primary tools are broken, you now have
> >a rather clumsy paperweight where a computer should be. You could
> >argue that we should simply learn new tools, and we could, but we
> >should really be doing science instead.
> >
> >This brought up the question, who uses 64 bit Linux anyway?
> >Surely gamers do not drive the 64-bit linux community. It can't be the
> >desktop
> >community, seeing that the standard office tool doesn't really
> >work for 64-bit. I would think that scientific and engineering
> >users would drive this community. Besides the instruction set, which
> >can probably give some speed, but wouldn't justify the cost, the address
> >space in 64-bit OS's mean that we can solve much larger problems. Unles
> >you're
> >not doing some heavy-duty, memory-intensive computation, 64-bits seems
> >to be simply a status symbol.
> >
> >For compute servers the amd64 distribution is fine. All you really need
> >are
> >languages (compilers), libraries and decent MPICH. We run our small, 32
> >bit
> >Beowulf on debian with abandon, and from my experience, I look forward to
> >converting it to amd64 ... with a 32-bit node where things actually work.
> >
> >Unless such core pieces as the debugging tool (ddd) and the data display
> >tool
> >(xmgrace) are working, it is dishonest to pretend that the 64-bit version
> >is ready for testing. It would be very nice if you, and other distro's,
> >were
> >to put appropriate caveats on the websites, saying that 64-bit is really
> >not
> >ready for the prime-time desktop. That way, we could make better
> >purchasing
> >decisions.
> >
> >
> >
> At the risk of imposing what we do at our work place onto your work flow, i
> find that users generally should have access to better debuggers/profilers
> than what ships with standard gnu distros. presumably if you are doing
> scientific computations, you probably have access to a commercial compiler?
> i know that the portland group compilers ship with a fairly good gui
> debugger if you are not satisfied with gdb (in parallel attached to each
> running process)
> 
> also shouldnt users be using programs like xmgrace on their local
> workstations? again with out trying to impose my workflow to yours, i find
> sometimes users do silly things on the head node on clusters, and I tend to
> try and get my users to do post analysis etc... stuff that can run serially
> on their own desktops whenever possible.
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> 
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> Lloyd Building, Trinity College Dublin.
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Re: Broken applications: Could we be honest?

2006-07-12 Thread Art Edwards
Excuse me for chiming in, but I think many places simply look
for the best performance and productivity/dollar(euro). We do use the PGI 
compiler,
mostly because gnu had not had a f90-f95 compiler, and partly because
of, maybe, a 10% improvement in speed. 

What I find interesting is that both Fedora and Debian have similar
problems for different reasons. Debian has now stable release for
AMD64 because Sarge was released before AMD64 was really ready. This means
that we are all stuck in the beta test-site pool. It would be really nice
if Debian actually packaged up a "stable-like" version of AMD64 at the
same level as Sarge. Fedora has been moving so quickly, that they have 
incorporated the same problems into a nominally stable release.


On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 07:28:21PM +0200, Oliver Rother wrote:
> Jimmy Tang wrote:
> 
> >At the risk of imposing what we do at our work place onto your work 
> >flow, i find that users generally should have access to better 
> >debuggers/profilers than what ships with standard gnu distros. 
> 
> Well, if you intend to start a flame war on the lists... but enough on that.
> 
> >presumably if you are doing scientific computations, you probably have
> >access to a commercial compiler? 
> 
> Oh, we do. Consider an project with a timeline of many years or even 
> decades of years. would you choose a non onepn source (commercial) 
> compiler/debugger for that project? I'm pretty sure, you won't.
> 
> >also shouldnt users be using programs like xmgrace 
> 
> Talking about commerical applications from your point of view - why use 
> free software for data analysis when powerful commercial packages like 
> IDL are available?
> 
> Olli
> 
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Re: Broken applications: Could we be honest?

2006-07-12 Thread Art Edwards
The point is that they do not work exactly fine. For ddd, the console at the 
bottom is dead.
The keyboard fails. For grace(xmgrace) the same symptom is present in all 
text boxes. This appears to be a pretty general problem because the same is 
true for
Fedora Core 5, but not for Fedora Core 4. I have compiled xmgrace from sources 
and 
I have the same problem. I have done some looking and this problem surfaced
several years ago on a cygwin list. 
Just for the record, when I invoke xmgrace from the command line, I receive 
many errors like this:

Warning: String to TranslationTable conversion encountered errors
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:  osfHelp

I get exactly the same set from ddd. Again, this is true for AMD64 for both 
Debian and for Fedora Core 5.


Art Edwards

On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 07:02:24PM +0200, Oliver Rother wrote:
> Art Edwards wrote:
> 
> >Unless such core pieces as the debugging tool (ddd) and the data display 
> >tool
> >(xmgrace) are working, it is dishonest to pretend that the 64-bit version 
> >is ready for testing. 
> 
> ddd and grace are in Debian testing (etch) amd64 and work fine. So where 
> exactly is the issue?
> 
> We use an mixture of testing and unstable here with the following 
> priority setting /etc/apt/preferences:
> 
> Package: *
> Pin: release a=testing
> Pin-Priority: -1
> Package: *
> Pin: release a=unstable
> Pin-Priority: -2
> 
> So, if a package is still brocken in testing (as parts of gnome at least 
> at box installation time), we take it from unstable with
> 
> apt-get install PACKAGE -t unstable,
> 
> including its dependencies.
> 
> So far, we observerd no major issues.
> 
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Re: Broken applications: Could we be honest?

2006-07-12 Thread Art Edwards
Thanks very much. See below.
On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 02:54:14PM -0500, Ozzy Lash wrote:
> On 7/12/06, Art Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >The point is that they do not work exactly fine. For ddd, the console at 
> >the bottom is dead.
> >The keyboard fails. For grace(xmgrace) the same symptom is present in all
> >text boxes. This appears to be a pretty general problem because the same 
> >is true for
> >Fedora Core 5, but not for Fedora Core 4. I have compiled xmgrace from 
> >sources and
> >I have the same problem. I have done some looking and this problem surfaced
> >several years ago on a cygwin list.
> >Just for the record, when I invoke xmgrace from the command line, I 
> >receive many errors like this:
> >
> >Warning: String to TranslationTable conversion encountered errors
> >Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:  osfHelp
> >
> >I get exactly the same set from ddd. Again, this is true for AMD64 for 
> >both Debian and for Fedora Core 5.
> >
> >
> >Art Edwards
> 
> I did a google search for "Warning: String to TranslationTable
> conversion encountered errors" and found this link:
> 
> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82087
> 
> With the following suggestion:
> The answer is:
> 
> export XKEYSYMDB=/usr/share/X11/XKeysymDB

This was, indeed, the problem. It arose because my .cshrc file pointed to an
older place (/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XKeysymDB).

Again, thanks.

Art Edwards
> 
> 
> This is also needed to get the grace package to work right on Breezy, BTW.
> 
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> 
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Re: Broken applications: Could we be honest?

2006-07-12 Thread Art Edwards
I posted the same initial message on the three sites I thought were
appropriate. My plea for honesty was a measure of frustration with
what should be well-established packages. It turns out that in the newer
distros, the structure of /usr/X11R6 has changed dramatically enough
that it broke a .cshrc file that had worked for five years. 


Art Edwards

On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 10:18:40PM +0200, Thierry Chatelet wrote:
> Ozzy Lash wrote:
> >On 7/12/06, Art Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>The point is that they do not work exactly fine. For ddd, the console 
> >>at the bottom is dead.
> >>The keyboard fails. For grace(xmgrace) the same symptom is present in 
> >>all
> >>text boxes. This appears to be a pretty general problem because the 
> >>same is true for
> >>Fedora Core 5, but not for Fedora Core 4. I have compiled xmgrace 
> >>from sources and
> >>I have the same problem. I have done some looking and this problem 
> >>surfaced
> >>several years ago on a cygwin list.
> >>Just for the record, when I invoke xmgrace from the command line, I 
> >>receive many errors like this:
> >>
> >>Warning: String to TranslationTable conversion encountered errors
> >>Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:  osfHelp
> >>
> >>I get exactly the same set from ddd. Again, this is true for AMD64 
> >>for both Debian and for Fedora Core 5.
> >>
> >>
> >>Art Edwards
> >
> >I did a google search for "Warning: String to TranslationTable
> >conversion encountered errors" and found this link:
> >
> >http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82087
> >
> >With the following suggestion:
> >The answer is:
> >
> >export XKEYSYMDB=/usr/share/X11/XKeysymDB
> >
> >
> >This is also needed to get the grace package to work right on Breezy, 
> >BTW.
> >
> >
> >Hope this helps
> >
> >
> What is that honesty things invading all news group from Debian?
> Please answer only to the list the mail is originating. On top, I am 
> wondering why we have so many ' tell the truth mail lately.
> Thierry
> 
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System sees only 65M of memory

2000-09-10 Thread Art Edwards
I just purchased two Athalon-based systems, each with 768M of ram.
However, under debian (potato runnin kernel 2.2.17) the OS sees only 65
M of memory. I have tried to use the append command

mem=768M

but it still sees only 65 M? 

Does anyone have any ideas?


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[Fwd: Exim and DSL]

2000-12-28 Thread Art Edwards

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(505) 256-0834--- Begin Message ---
I'm haveing some difficulty getting my network to accept mail messages.
I'm using exim through a cicso router. I have forwarded port 25 to my
mail machine. I am able to send mail to anyone. And I can receive mail
from the local machines. When I try to send mail to my machine from
another, I get nothing. I attach a typical dialog with exim when I use
the -d9 switch to maximize debugging messages.


lcws/home/edwards> exim -d9 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exim version 3.12 debug level 9 uid=225 gid=231
probably Berkeley DB version 1.8x (native mode)
lcws.ahpcc.unm.edu in local_domains? yes (matched lcws.ahpcc.unm.edu)
Actual local interface address is 127.0.0.1
Actual local interface address is 129.24.244.32
user name "Arthur H. Edwards" extracted from gecos field "Arthur H.
Edwards"
sender address = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
set_process_info: 14099 3.12 accepting a local non-SMTP message from
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Recipients:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
search_tidyup called
Subject:Test
This is a test.
>>Original headers (size=28):
Subject:Test

This is a test.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] in [EMAIL PROTECTED] no (end of list)
rewritten sender = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
search_tidyup called
>>Final headers:
P Received: from edwards by lcws.ahpcc.unm.edu with local (Exim 3.12 #1
(Debia
)
id 14BfVB-0003fP-00
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 28 Dec 2000
09:02:13 -
00
  Subject:Test
I Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
F From: "Arthur H. Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
T To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 09:02:13 -0700

This is a test.
Data file written for message 14BfVB-0003fP-00
Writing spool header file
Size of headers = 369
LOG: 0 MAIN
  <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=edwards P=local S=386
exec /usr/sbin/exim -d9 -Mc 14BfVB-0003fP-00  
lcws/home/edwards> Exim version 3.12 debug level 9 uid=8 gid=8
probably Berkeley DB version 1.8x (native mode)
lcws.ahpcc.unm.edu in local_domains? yes (matched lcws.ahpcc.unm.edu)
Actual local interface address is 127.0.0.1
Actual local interface address is 129.24.244.32
Caller is an admin user
Caller is a trusted user
set_process_info: 14100 3.12 delivering specified messages
delivering message 14BfVB-0003fP-00
set_process_info: 14100 3.12 delivering 14BfVB-0003fP-00
Opened spool file 14BfVB-0003fP-00-H
user=edwards uid=225 gid=231 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sender_local=1 resent=no ident=edwards
Non-recipients:
Empty Tree
 End of tree 
recipients_count=1
body_linecount=1 message_linecount=8
Delivery address list:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
locked /var/spool/exim/db/retry.lockfile
opened DB file /var/spool/exim/db/retry: flags=0

Considering: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
icantbelieveimdoingthis.com in local_domains? no (end of list)
unique = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dbfn_read: key=R:icantbelieveimdoingthis.com
dbfn_read: key=R:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: queued for routing

After directing:
  Local addresses:
  Remote addresses:
  Failed addresses:
  Addresses to be routed:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Deferred addresses:

routing [EMAIL PROTECTED], domain
icantbelieveimdoingthis.co
lookuphost router called for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  dns lookup: route_domain = icantbelieveimdoingthis.com
DNS lookup of icantbelieveimdoingthis.com (MX) succeeded
DNS lookup of mail.thuntek.net () succeeded
DNS lookup of mail2.thuntek.net () gave NO_DATA
DNS lookup of mail.thuntek.net (A) succeeded
Actual local interface address is 127.0.0.1
Actual local interface address is 129.24.244.32
fully qualified name = icantbelieveimdoingthis.com
host_find_bydns yield = HOST_FOUND (2); returned hosts:
  buckhill.icantbelieveimdoingthis.com 206.206.97.132 10 1031 
  mail2.thuntek.net 206.206.98.15 20 2091 
queued for remote_smtp transport: local_part=edwards
domain=icantbelieveimdoin
his.com
routed by lookuphost router:
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kile

2007-07-03 Thread Art Edwards
In testing, kile has been removed. It appears that texlive is undergoing 
a reorganization. As a result, kile's dependencies are at odds with the 
new organization. When will kile be returned to the distribution?


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Re: kile

2007-07-09 Thread Art Edwards

This is a courtesy rejoinder:

Today kile installed without problem. Last time I think that texlive was 
not completely loaded into testing.


Art Edwards

Steve Langasek wrote:

On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 03:06:36PM -0600, Art Edwards wrote:
  

In testing, kile has been removed.



That doesn't appear to be the case.

  

It appears that texlive is undergoing a reorganization. As a result,
kile's dependencies are at odds with the new organization.



I don't see this in any version of kile in etch/lenny/sid.

  


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