WG: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread Annette . Schweigardt
Not for me

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Annette Schweigardt
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> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von:  Philip Hands [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Gesendet am:  Donnerstag, 17. August 2000 17:11
> An:   debian-cd@lists.debian.org; debian-devel@lists.debian.org
> Betreff:  Re: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened
> 
> Anthony Towns  writes:
> 
> > Well, one thing that'd help would be having a cdimage.debian.org that
> > doesn't crash all the time. That's the main reason we didn't have any
> > time at all to check things, or for Phil to double check things with you
> > as to how things should be done when the first sparc images didn't work.
> 
> I'm working on it -- open's getting a full body transplant on Tuesday
> (or thereabouts).
> 
> I know it's been a pain in the arse, but I think I actually made the
> right decision in leaving it as it was for the duration.  Admittedly,
> open died the moment I started building CDs, but once rebooted
> (unfortunately 8 hours later, waiting for someone to fsck /), it's
> actually stood up to the load reasonably well all things considered (2
> 30 minute outages), whereas we could have done a panic replacement
> with untested hardware, and found ourselves without anything.
> 
> Anyway, once it's plugged into it's 100Mbit LAN, and is an Athlon 650,
> rather than a P166, these problems should be behind us, with a bit of
> luck.
> 
> > Another thing that would help is getting this stuff more automated and
> > common. While boot-floppies and kernels and cd images are all being
> > made by one or two people who know how to tweak the settings correctly,
> > we're going to keep having problems like this. Much better, IMO, to
> setup
> > cdimage.debian.org (or similar) to build a new set of CDs once a week,
> > automatically, ideally straight from debian-cd.deb.
> 
> Nice idea, but it's taken until very recently to get the scripts into
> this state, with constant feedback -- if we were unable to tweak the
> scripts to make them work, they'd never work as well as they do.
> 
> And then we find that they still don't work ;-)
> 
> > More directly though, we should be able to very easily setup some
> automated
> > tests to make sure this doesn't happen again. After building the CDs,
> mount
> > them over loopback and checking device files have correct ownerships and
> > permissions, or check that various packages in base are all on CD#1, or
> > similar.
> 
> Now this is a very good idea.
> 
> > The more checking and testing we can offload from volunteers onto
> machines,
> > the better. We can always get more machines, getting more people with
> the
> > requisite clues and free time is much harder.
> 
> It's almost impossible to remember all the little things that might go
> wrong as well, so encapsulating that knowledge in a regression test
> suit is definitely the way to go.
> 
> The fact that the CDs always need to be built in the early hours
> doesn't help.
> 
> Cheers, Phil.
> 
> 
> -- 
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WG: ITP: Moscow ML - An implementation of standard ML.

2000-08-17 Thread Annette . Schweigardt
Not for me...

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Annette Schweigardt
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> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Gesendet am:  Donnerstag, 17. August 2000 17:02
> An:   Nicolás Lichtmaier
> Cc:   Torsten Landschoff; debian-devel@lists.debian.org
> Betreff:  Re: ITP: Moscow ML - An implementation of standard ML.
> 
> Le 2000-08-16 01:55:59 -0300, Nicolás Lichtmaier écrivait :
> > > > > Don't do that. Moscow ML was my first package when I joined and I
> had 
> > > > > to learn that there are license problems. To be precise it is
> based on 
> > > > > Caml Light which is not GPLed (read: has further restrictions)
> therefore
> > > > > you can't link GPL-code against it. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > We can't distribute binaries of that :((
> > > > 
> > > >  Have you contacted the authors?
> > > 
> > > I don't quite remember. I think I contacted inria (they hold the Caml
> > > copyright) about changing that but to no extent. I am not sure if
> changing
> > > the MoSML license would help - at least it has to go to non-free then.
> 
> > > I did not want to maintain a non-free package at that time so I gave
> up on 
> > > it.
> > 
> >  The MosML could add to the license: "As an exception to the GNU GPL,
> you
> > may distribute this software linked to CAML".
> 
> As far as I remember, Objective CAML, which is supposed to be
> an advanced version of CAML light, has been moved to LGPL.
> 
> But I don't think the CAML light licence has changed.
> 
> -- 
> Jean-Philippe Guérard
> 
> 
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WG: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread Annette . Schweigardt
Not for me...

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Annette Schweigardt
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> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Gesendet am:  Donnerstag, 17. August 2000 17:36
> An:   debian-cd@lists.debian.org; debian-devel@lists.debian.org
> Betreff:  WG: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened
> 
> Not for me
> 
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
> 
> Annette Schweigardt
> AOK BD Heidenheim
> Gesundheitszentrum
> Daimlerstraße 6
> 89518 Heidenheim
> Tel:  (07321) 314 250
> Fax: (07321) 314 252
> EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von:Philip Hands [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Gesendet am:Donnerstag, 17. August 2000 17:11
> > An: debian-cd@lists.debian.org; debian-devel@lists.debian.org
> > Betreff:Re: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened
> > 
> > Anthony Towns  writes:
> > 
> > > Well, one thing that'd help would be having a cdimage.debian.org that
> > > doesn't crash all the time. That's the main reason we didn't have any
> > > time at all to check things, or for Phil to double check things with
> you
> > > as to how things should be done when the first sparc images didn't
> work.
> > 
> > I'm working on it -- open's getting a full body transplant on Tuesday
> > (or thereabouts).
> > 
> > I know it's been a pain in the arse, but I think I actually made the
> > right decision in leaving it as it was for the duration.  Admittedly,
> > open died the moment I started building CDs, but once rebooted
> > (unfortunately 8 hours later, waiting for someone to fsck /), it's
> > actually stood up to the load reasonably well all things considered (2
> > 30 minute outages), whereas we could have done a panic replacement
> > with untested hardware, and found ourselves without anything.
> > 
> > Anyway, once it's plugged into it's 100Mbit LAN, and is an Athlon 650,
> > rather than a P166, these problems should be behind us, with a bit of
> > luck.
> > 
> > > Another thing that would help is getting this stuff more automated and
> > > common. While boot-floppies and kernels and cd images are all being
> > > made by one or two people who know how to tweak the settings
> correctly,
> > > we're going to keep having problems like this. Much better, IMO, to
> > setup
> > > cdimage.debian.org (or similar) to build a new set of CDs once a week,
> > > automatically, ideally straight from debian-cd.deb.
> > 
> > Nice idea, but it's taken until very recently to get the scripts into
> > this state, with constant feedback -- if we were unable to tweak the
> > scripts to make them work, they'd never work as well as they do.
> > 
> > And then we find that they still don't work ;-)
> > 
> > > More directly though, we should be able to very easily setup some
> > automated
> > > tests to make sure this doesn't happen again. After building the CDs,
> > mount
> > > them over loopback and checking device files have correct ownerships
> and
> > > permissions, or check that various packages in base are all on CD#1,
> or
> > > similar.
> > 
> > Now this is a very good idea.
> > 
> > > The more checking and testing we can offload from volunteers onto
> > machines,
> > > the better. We can always get more machines, getting more people with
> > the
> > > requisite clues and free time is much harder.
> > 
> > It's almost impossible to remember all the little things that might go
> > wrong as well, so encapsulating that knowledge in a regression test
> > suit is definitely the way to go.
> > 
> > The fact that the CDs always need to be built in the early hours
> > doesn't help.
> > 
> > Cheers, Phil.
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
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WG: ITP: Moscow ML - An implementation of standard ML.

2000-08-17 Thread Annette . Schweigardt
Not For me...

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Annette Schweigardt
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> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Gesendet am:  Donnerstag, 17. August 2000 17:37
> An:   debian-devel@lists.debian.org
> Betreff:  WG: ITP: Moscow ML - An implementation of standard ML.
> 
> Not for me...
> 
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
> 
> Annette Schweigardt
> AOK BD Heidenheim
> Gesundheitszentrum
> Daimlerstraße 6
> 89518 Heidenheim
> Tel:  (07321) 314 250
> Fax: (07321) 314 252
> EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Gesendet am:Donnerstag, 17. August 2000 17:02
> > An: Nicolás Lichtmaier
> > Cc: Torsten Landschoff; debian-devel@lists.debian.org
> > Betreff:Re: ITP: Moscow ML - An implementation of standard ML.
> > 
> > Le 2000-08-16 01:55:59 -0300, Nicolás Lichtmaier écrivait :
> > > > > > Don't do that. Moscow ML was my first package when I joined and
> I
> > had 
> > > > > > to learn that there are license problems. To be precise it is
> > based on 
> > > > > > Caml Light which is not GPLed (read: has further restrictions)
> > therefore
> > > > > > you can't link GPL-code against it. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > We can't distribute binaries of that :((
> > > > > 
> > > > >  Have you contacted the authors?
> > > > 
> > > > I don't quite remember. I think I contacted inria (they hold the
> Caml
> > > > copyright) about changing that but to no extent. I am not sure if
> > changing
> > > > the MoSML license would help - at least it has to go to non-free
> then.
> > 
> > > > I did not want to maintain a non-free package at that time so I gave
> > up on 
> > > > it.
> > > 
> > >  The MosML could add to the license: "As an exception to the GNU GPL,
> > you
> > > may distribute this software linked to CAML".
> > 
> > As far as I remember, Objective CAML, which is supposed to be
> > an advanced version of CAML light, has been moved to LGPL.
> > 
> > But I don't think the CAML light licence has changed.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Jean-Philippe Guérard
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
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WG: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread Annette . Schweigardt
Not for me...

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Annette Schweigardt
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> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Gesendet am:  Donnerstag, 17. August 2000 17:41
> An:   debian-cd@lists.debian.org; debian-devel@lists.debian.org
> Betreff:  WG: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened
> 
> Not for me...
> 
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
> 
> Annette Schweigardt
> AOK BD Heidenheim
> Gesundheitszentrum
> Daimlerstraße 6
> 89518 Heidenheim
> Tel:  (07321) 314 250
> Fax: (07321) 314 252
> EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Gesendet am:Donnerstag, 17. August 2000 17:36
> > An: debian-cd@lists.debian.org; debian-devel@lists.debian.org
> > Betreff:WG: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened
> > 
> > Not for me
> > 
> > Mit freundlichen Grüßen
> > 
> > Annette Schweigardt
> > AOK BD Heidenheim
> > Gesundheitszentrum
> > Daimlerstraße 6
> > 89518 Heidenheim
> > Tel:  (07321) 314 250
> > Fax: (07321) 314 252
> > EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > > Von:  Philip Hands [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Gesendet am:  Donnerstag, 17. August 2000 17:11
> > > An:   debian-cd@lists.debian.org; debian-devel@lists.debian.org
> > > Betreff:  Re: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened
> > > 
> > > Anthony Towns  writes:
> > > 
> > > > Well, one thing that'd help would be having a cdimage.debian.org
> that
> > > > doesn't crash all the time. That's the main reason we didn't have
> any
> > > > time at all to check things, or for Phil to double check things with
> > you
> > > > as to how things should be done when the first sparc images didn't
> > work.
> > > 
> > > I'm working on it -- open's getting a full body transplant on Tuesday
> > > (or thereabouts).
> > > 
> > > I know it's been a pain in the arse, but I think I actually made the
> > > right decision in leaving it as it was for the duration.  Admittedly,
> > > open died the moment I started building CDs, but once rebooted
> > > (unfortunately 8 hours later, waiting for someone to fsck /), it's
> > > actually stood up to the load reasonably well all things considered (2
> > > 30 minute outages), whereas we could have done a panic replacement
> > > with untested hardware, and found ourselves without anything.
> > > 
> > > Anyway, once it's plugged into it's 100Mbit LAN, and is an Athlon 650,
> > > rather than a P166, these problems should be behind us, with a bit of
> > > luck.
> > > 
> > > > Another thing that would help is getting this stuff more automated
> and
> > > > common. While boot-floppies and kernels and cd images are all being
> > > > made by one or two people who know how to tweak the settings
> > correctly,
> > > > we're going to keep having problems like this. Much better, IMO, to
> > > setup
> > > > cdimage.debian.org (or similar) to build a new set of CDs once a
> week,
> > > > automatically, ideally straight from debian-cd.deb.
> > > 
> > > Nice idea, but it's taken until very recently to get the scripts into
> > > this state, with constant feedback -- if we were unable to tweak the
> > > scripts to make them work, they'd never work as well as they do.
> > > 
> > > And then we find that they still don't work ;-)
> > > 
> > > > More directly though, we should be able to very easily setup some
> > > automated
> > > > tests to make sure this doesn't happen again. After building the
> CDs,
> > > mount
> > > > them over loopback and checking device files have correct ownerships
> > and
> > > > permissions, or check that various packages in base are all on CD#1,
> > or
> > > > similar.
> > > 
> > > Now this is a very good idea.
> > > 
> > > > The more checking and testing we can offload from volunteers onto
> > > machines,
> > > > the better. We can always get more machines, getting more people
> with
> > > the
> > > > requisite clues and free time is much harder.
> > > 
> > > It's almost impossible to remember all the little things that might go
> > > wrong as well, so encapsulating that knowledge in a regression test
> > > suit is definitely the way to go.
> > > 
> > > The fact that the CDs always need to be built in the early hours
> > > doesn't help.
> > > 
> > > Cheers, Phil.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
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WG: floppy disk

2000-08-17 Thread Annette . Schweigardt

Not for me
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> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Gesendet am:  Donnerstag, 17. August 2000 17:41
> An:   debian-alpha@lists.debian.org
> Betreff:  WG: floppy disk
> 
> Not for me...
> 
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
> 
> Annette Schweigardt
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> 
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Gesendet am:Donnerstag, 17. August 2000 17:38
> > An: debian-alpha@lists.debian.org
> > Betreff:    WG: floppy disk
> > 
> > Not for me...
> > 
> > Mit freundlichen Grüßen
> > 
> > Annette Schweigardt
> > AOK BD Heidenheim
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> > 89518 Heidenheim
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> > 
> > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > > Von:  Marcus Williams [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Gesendet am:  Donnerstag, 17. August 2000 16:33
> > > An:   Andrew MacNamara; debian-alpha@lists.debian.org
> > > Betreff:  RE: floppy disk
> > > 
> > > If the light is on continuously it usually means you've put the
> > > floppy cable the wrong way round - it doesnt break anything in
> > > itself, but the OS wont be able to use it. If it doesnt work the
> > > other way round it still could be a broken cable or controller -
> > > not much help really but at least you can tell whether you've got
> > > the cable around the right way :-)
> > > 
> > > Marcus
> > > 
> > > --
> > > M J Williams @ work - Quintic Ltd, Cambridge, UK
> > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.onq2.com
> > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Andrew MacNamara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 3:13 PM
> > > > To: debian-alpha@lists.debian.org
> > > > Subject: floppy disk
> > > >
> > > [snip]
> > > > When I put it in one way, the drive light never comes
> > > > on at all.
> > > >
> > > > When I put it in the other way, the drive light comes
> > > > on when the system
> > > > boots up, and it stays on -- it never goes off.
> > > [snip]
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
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WG: Netscape Probs

2000-08-17 Thread Annette . Schweigardt
Not for me

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

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> Gesendet am:  Donnerstag, 17. August 2000 17:41
> An:   debian-alpha@lists.debian.org
> Betreff:  WG: Netscape Probs
> 
> Not for me...
> 
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
> 
> Annette Schweigardt
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> 
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Gesendet am:Donnerstag, 17. August 2000 17:37
> > An: debian-alpha@lists.debian.org
> > Betreff:WG: Netscape Probs
> > 
> > Not for me
> > 
> > Mit freundlichen Grüßen
> > 
> > Annette Schweigardt
> > AOK BD Heidenheim
> > Gesundheitszentrum
> > Daimlerstraße 6
> > 89518 Heidenheim
> > Tel:  (07321) 314 250
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> > 
> > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > > Von:  Paul Slootman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Gesendet am:  Donnerstag, 17. August 2000 16:57
> > > An:   debian-alpha@lists.debian.org
> > > Betreff:  Re: Netscape Probs
> > > 
> > > On Sat 15 Aug 2020, Steve Hiller wrote:
> > > 
> > > > run netscape I get...
> > > > 
> > > > /usr/bin/netscape: /usr/lib/netscape/netscape-navigator: No such
> file
> > or
> > > > directory
> > > > 
> > > > even though the file exists. I have tried just running the
> > > netscape-navigator
> > > > binary file but I get the same no such file or dir message. Oh ya.
> > This
> > > is on a
> > > 
> > > You *do* have the Digital Unix (or whatever it's called this month)
> > > shared libraries installed?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Paul Slootman
> > > -- 
> > > home:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.wurtel.demon.nl/
> > > work:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.murphy.nl/
> > > debian: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.debian.org/
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> > > 
> > > 
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WG: ITP: Moscow ML - An implementation of standard ML.

2000-08-17 Thread Annette . Schweigardt
Not for me...

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Annette Schweigardt
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> Betreff:  WG: ITP: Moscow ML - An implementation of standard ML.
> 
> Not For me...
> 
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
> 
> Annette Schweigardt
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> > Gesendet am:Donnerstag, 17. August 2000 17:37
> > An: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
> > Betreff:WG: ITP: Moscow ML - An implementation of standard ML.
> > 
> > Not for me...
> > 
> > Mit freundlichen Grüßen
> > 
> > Annette Schweigardt
> > AOK BD Heidenheim
> > Gesundheitszentrum
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> > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > > Von:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Gesendet am:  Donnerstag, 17. August 2000 17:02
> > > An:   Nicolás Lichtmaier
> > > Cc:   Torsten Landschoff; debian-devel@lists.debian.org
> > > Betreff:  Re: ITP: Moscow ML - An implementation of standard ML.
> > > 
> > > Le 2000-08-16 01:55:59 -0300, Nicolás Lichtmaier écrivait :
> > > > > > > Don't do that. Moscow ML was my first package when I joined
> and
> > I
> > > had 
> > > > > > > to learn that there are license problems. To be precise it is
> > > based on 
> > > > > > > Caml Light which is not GPLed (read: has further restrictions)
> > > therefore
> > > > > > > you can't link GPL-code against it. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > We can't distribute binaries of that :((
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  Have you contacted the authors?
> > > > > 
> > > > > I don't quite remember. I think I contacted inria (they hold the
> > Caml
> > > > > copyright) about changing that but to no extent. I am not sure if
> > > changing
> > > > > the MoSML license would help - at least it has to go to non-free
> > then.
> > > 
> > > > > I did not want to maintain a non-free package at that time so I
> gave
> > > up on 
> > > > > it.
> > > > 
> > > >  The MosML could add to the license: "As an exception to the GNU
> GPL,
> > > you
> > > > may distribute this software linked to CAML".
> > > 
> > > As far as I remember, Objective CAML, which is supposed to be
> > > an advanced version of CAML light, has been moved to LGPL.
> > > 
> > > But I don't think the CAML light licence has changed.
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Jean-Philippe Guérard
> > > 
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