Re: congratulations to our ftp-master team
Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > My proposal would be exactly like that: extend the NEW queue > information page with a comments field where FTP-master can add any > comments for packages that aren't approved or rejected when first > examined. It would just have to contain a quick note about the > problems and what this package is waiting for. Every ITP opens a bug, every upload stalled in NEW should close it. No need to extend anything, the BTS is where these comments belong, IMHO. -- .''`. Follow the white Rabbit - Ranty (and Lewis Carroll) : :' : `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: congratulations to our ftp-master team
Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > I don't really care that much how it's implemented, as long as status > updates are given. Sure :) -- .''`. Follow the white Rabbit - Ranty (and Lewis Carroll) : :' : `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: For those who care about lesbians
Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote: > I got you sarcasm, but I still think that messages posted to > debian-devel-announce should be more official. Come on, it is just Mr. Suffield slowly turning into the Overfiend :) -- .''`. sleep: command not found : :' : `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A great weekend for Debian
Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > I think you're overly optimistic :-) Most of the simple RC bugs > (related to the xlibs-dev transition) have been fixed; there aren't 90 > more like those. Those left are: > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/[EMAIL > PROTECTED]:transition-xlibs-dev&repeatmerged=no You are right, the most simple ones are fixed now, only the ugly ones remain. We could use some help, so fellow Developers, smash an ugly bug today! -- .''`. sleep: command not found : :' : `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A great weekend for Debian
Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > I think you're overly optimistic :-) Most of the simple RC bugs > (related to the xlibs-dev transition) have been fixed; there aren't 90 > more like those. I got home from work and have second thoughts about the email I previously sent. I think I am a bit pissed off by this "simple RC bugs" statement. I don't personally care about my own credit, but I think the people who worked in this transition deserved the email Joseph Smidt sent and an acknowledgement for their work. Some of us have been barely doing anything else in our lives than this transition for 14 days. I am talking about Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt, Thomas Viehmann, Nico Golde, Steve Langasek, Victor Seva Lopez and Justin Pryzby, others I might not be aware of, and Moritz Muehlenhoff, who provided the script that helps find out the new Build-Depends. Let me explain. In 14 days, we have gone from a total of 577 reported bugs to - Serious policy violations; Patch Available (5 bugs) - Serious policy violations; Unclassified (34 bugs) - Pending Upload bugs - Serious policy violations (9 bugs) That is *impressive*. That amounts to 48 bugs to go. Some of them are still "easy", and we are still working on them. There is a *huge* amount of work behind those figures, whether the task looks tedious, repetitive and low profile to you or not, someone had to do it, and it has been done. In the meantime we have also reported MIA maintainers and have given the packages some love, ie fixing other RC bugs in our NMUs. Sometimes we have felt inspired and provided "quality" uploads as opposed to fixing "simple" RC bugs (related to the xlibs-dev transition). See, for example your patch to libggiwmh, which only takes care of the xlibs-transition: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi/libggiwmh-0.1.0-1.1-nmu.diff?bug=349452;msg=5;att=1 as opposed to what would have been my pacth: http://www.amayita.com/debian/xlibs-transition/libggiwmh_toolate/libggiwmh-0.1.0/debian/changelog But when I wanted to attach my patch to 349452 I was late, you had already uploaded :) There is nothing wrong with your patch BTW. That's not what I mean. The RC bug chart looks lovely: http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ Most of the time, I just NMUed otehr people's changes, but also went through testing, re-testing, and testing again, also trying to fix other bugs in the packages, and giving them some love, as I explained at: http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2006/01/msg00168.html I know it is not the NMU goal to go this far, but I had fun, and got to work with wonderful people in the proccess. I am also aware I sometimes fucked up (I broke links2, and have been reported to attach patches for the wrong packages or to the wrong bug numbers) out of exhaustion :) There is still major breakage to deal with. A list of up-for-adoption packages to be reported, maintainers to be pinged, more bugs to me filed (as in your package is in bad shape, either fix it or orphan it). It has been also depressing to upload certaing packages in bad shape, and in cases I have refused to upload at all because of packages being in terrible shape. Some of the packages that still need to be fixed are marked for removal. If you look at http://haydn.debian.org/~thuriaux-guest/qa/ you will discover that the QA team (which I am sadly not as active in as I would want to be) is in fact doing quite well and the sad lesson for me to learn is the incredible amount of people silently dissapearing and neglecting their packages while we assume those packages have a maintainer. It leads me to think Debian accounts should expire in a year of no activity and packages be automatically orphaned, but it is just a side effect of RC over-dose, and I really need to go back to my own packages when this is over. To all of those who have walked this path kudos! -- .''`. sleep: command not found : :' : `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lists.d.o Spam (was: Marking BTS spam)
Hi Cord! First of all, thanks for the listamster work involving spam. Cord Beermann wrote: > Also we (the listmasters) don't train the bayes-filter, May I ask why? > we add also rules to procmail and SpamAssassin if nessecary. That's great, thanks. -- .''`. I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think : :' : I have ended up where I needed to be -- Douglas Adams `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: For those who care about stable updates
Gustavo Franco wrote: > it seems that the default reply is "ok Martin, see you, thanks.". Yes, we are very thankful for his time, dedication, and achievemnets. > It's volunteer work, he's free to do whatever he wants and spend his > time with more pleasant tasks, Exactly. > but when will we try to solve some of the real problems we have Hey! It's DPL election time! Lobby around. I really am biting my tongue, but you don't have to. > Don't you care ? We do. But asking him to go back to doing something that was such a source of pain? No way. > Closing, thanks for your valuable contribution to this project Martin. Ditto. -- .''`. I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think : :' : I have ended up where I needed to be -- Douglas Adams `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: For those who care about stable updates
Andreas Tille wrote: > Ups, why are you biting your tongue? Because we all have our bit of fustration regarding this issue and I don't want to pour anger in email. For fear that I get expulsed :P No, seriously... This is being discussed in the debian-project mailing list right now, where it belongs, and Marga started a (sub)thread in the very tone we should use (that means a *calm* tone, in case someone is not following along). > I say it loudly: I will vote highest for the candidate who seems to me > most probable to solve this very problem. I still have to deal with my concers about the code of conduct, so I will bite my tongue some more and wait until the tone is right to raise them. -- .''`. I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think : :' : I have ended up where I needed to be -- Douglas Adams `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: For those who care about stable updates
Gustavo Franco wrote: > I agree with you, i wasn't simple asking him to go back. My point was > that if we just let somebody or a team take over that task the problem > will still be there, maybe not all the problems but some of them. I am also worried that these issues continue to exist throughout releases/DPLs/seasons... I honestly think it is all a lack of transparency and communication. -- .''`. I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think : :' : I have ended up where I needed to be -- Douglas Adams `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: For those who care about stable updates
Gustavo Franco wrote: > Sure Amaya, "what we've got here is failure to communicate...". Btw, i > hope we don't end in a civil war. :-) Civil? Not as long as we focus on attacking Ubuntu -- .''`. I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think : :' : I have ended up where I needed to be -- Douglas Adams `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: For those who care about stable updates
Gustavo Franco wrote: > hehe, i think you missed my joke first. Maybe, I just saw a GnR quote. -- .''`. I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think : :' : I have ended up where I needed to be -- Douglas Adams `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: For those who care about stable updates
Josselin Mouette wrote: > Who are you going to lobby? The candidates who are playing an active > role in "the problem", or the ones who are just claiming there is no > problem and that we should all be friends? This year the candidates are acting more like RL politicians than ever (IMVHO). So you... 1 - lobby (all of them) 2 - get promises in exchange of votes 3 - ... 4 - profit! Nah, just lack of iron talking. -- .''`. I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think : :' : I have ended up where I needed to be -- Douglas Adams `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: For those who care about stable updates (update)
Florian Haas wrote: > Joey did not quit because he woke up this morning and didn't feel like > doing the work. Yes, that is an issue that really has to be discussed in a civil manner and in more depth. The issue I am refering to is, again, the fragile equilibrium between meritocracy and elected delegates. People that hold key positions in the project. And I am very sorry to bring this up in such a painful moment, but I am afraid Joey himself has sometimes behaved in the same way that he so bitterly complains James Troup behaved. With plenty of differences, sure. And in no way I am trying to dissmiss the huge amount of work and time I am sure both have put into their respective tasks. But as far as I see (again biased by my own perception, lack of information and the alignment of Venus/Jupiter) both have issues with delegating, or acknowledging being overworked. I do have these same issues myself, I guees, we all do. No big deal, because my role is, fortunately for the project, not key to the project. I wonder if it is a control issue after all, on top of this lack of transparency and feedback. Just my thoughts, not judging anyone. -- .''`. I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think : :' : I have ended up where I needed to be -- Douglas Adams `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?
martin f krafft wrote: > I am finding lots of interesting points in other people's replies. Yes, I am also surprised about the civil tone (on most of the replies). > I think the discussion so far has been much constructive. Whether we > are going to let it deteriorate to a flame fest or not will largely > serve to show whether Debian has learnt something over the past > years or not. 100% agreed. I wonder if the "Huge Troll Warning" had any effect. -- ·''`. Policy is your friend. Trust the Policy. : :' : Love the Policy. Obey the Policy. -- Lars Wirzenius `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?
Eduard Bloch wrote: > Have you set a proper ultimatum and have you made understandable that > you are going to NMU? I usually do it this way so the terms are clear > for both sides. And/or using delayed upload to not forget about the > time period. I personally fear that using NMUs as threats (I am not saying that you do) contributes to some extent to this "Do not NMU my packages" trend. > And I also had cases where someone NMUed my package after three days > or so without warnings, and IIRC without posting a final diff. That > sucks! Completely! On the other hand, as a game, I have even sponsored NMUs of my own packages. But of course, YMMV. -- ·''`. Policy is your friend. Trust the Policy. : :' : Love the Policy. Obey the Policy. -- Lars Wirzenius `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?
Eduard Bloch wrote: > I know that feeling, and IMO it can be enjoyable: getting things done > without investing own effort into them ;-) I have not been NMUed in hostile way (yet), maybe I am not prone to seeing it like a hostile behaviour, because I take it as "this person cares about $PACKAGE, thank $DEITY, help is on the way!". I know other developers react similarly. But good communication i a must. -- ·''`. Policy is your friend. Trust the Policy. : :' : Love the Policy. Obey the Policy. -- Lars Wirzenius `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NMU for mantis - new upstream and some bugfixes
Daniel Knabl wrote: > If my "work" is welcome - as I hope - then I will try to go on with > it. If it is NOT, or if it is of too low quality, then just ignore my > tries. The quality is not really a big issue here, it can be improved with time. What I would like to see is some degree of commitment for maintaining mantis in the future, or helping co-maintain it, if the original maintainer comes back. If this is the case, I'd be happy to sponsor your work, but I would first take some time to look at your package, but my availability atm is low, as I am in holidays. I could look at it, maybe on monday, and then work with you until it is ready for upload. In the meantime you might want to look at my sponsoring checklist, taken from other sponsors, at the bottom of my wiki page: http://wiki.debian.org/AmayaRodrigo and maybe fix some common mistakes this weekend. Specially as this is a new upstream release, a thorough look at the licenses and files in the source, making sure there are no files there under a different license, would be great. Check: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2003/12/msg7.html and http://ganneff.de/blog/2005/10/23#new for great insight on this. On the other hand if you are able to find a quicker sponsor in the meantime, just go ahead. I suggest using the debian-mentors mailing list for this. Thanks for giving mantis some love! -- ·''`. Policy is your friend. Trust the Policy. : :' : Love the Policy. Obey the Policy. -- Lars Wirzenius `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NMU for mantis - new upstream and some bugfixes
Hi Daniel, I see you made a great job out of mantis. You are so enthusiastic that I could not make you wait. There are still some issues that I want to discuss with you (ie, the changelog should be improved). But let's take this off-list and talk in private. -- ·''`. Policy is your friend. Trust the Policy. : :' : Love the Policy. Obey the Policy. -- Lars Wirzenius `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ITP: subtitleeditor -- Graphical subtitle editor with sound waves representation
Peter Samuelson wrote: > This program also shows sound waves, which makes it easier to > synchronise subtitles to voices. > > No need to mention the competitors, really. Changed, thanks. There is always this "how will the user know what to install?" thingy. That's what I was trying to solve without realizing apt* and friends would show false positives. Happy hacking! -- ·''`. Policy is your friend. Trust the Policy. : :' : Love the Policy. Obey the Policy. -- Lars Wirzenius `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian cares more about documents than people
alfredo diega wrote: > Well, I guess it isn't fair. Look, have any of you ever sent an email > out of frustration, then wish you could take it back? I am sorry, I > hope somebody will forgive me. We all have, no big deal. > I just need to loose my pride and switch to Ubuntu. No, you just need to have a good laugh about this all. I suggest: http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Debian http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu I think humor comes in handy to deal with hardware pain ;) I have a tshirt that says: "Debian: Good things come to those who... wait". I love it beacuse it is both fun and true. Things may work a bit differently here, but we do care about our users. I think freedom is important to our users, and while I also understand your fustration, we do emphazise freedom. I guess you were "blessed" with an ugly piece of hardware with freedom issues in its support. It is going to take some time until it is ready, probably in a part of our archive that is labeled as non-free, and maybe, as you own this hardware, you might even be interested in helping out, if you are not so angry anymore, at least at the later testing stages. Both distros would benefit from this work, btw. Have fun! -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Free flash player for your browser (Was: Running x86-64 debian inside i386 pbuilder on AMD64)
Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 04:38:51AM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > [on gnash] > > In my experience, it will even _require_ AMD64 or similar CPUs to > > display even trivial pages. > > Isn't that a given for anything even remotely related to flash? Exactly, it is not like the propietary flash-player is exactly "light". I am not sure whether it is the player, certain animations or what, but it is not uncommon for the non-free player to report 100% CPU usage. -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#390754: O: piuparts -- .deb package installation, upgrading, and removal testing tool
Hi, I have been wanting to answer to your emails about piuparts sooner, but I was unable to. As you are already aware of, I am very interested in getting to know piuparts much better, to make it part of my QA efforts. I have not been able to yet. Lars Wirzenius wrote: > [...] I am overcommited with regard to time and responsibilities This is where I also find myself now. I am neglecting some of my packages (such as lirc, and aurel32 just annouced that he is dedicating less time to Debian, which also hurts lirc, I am so grateful to hector for all he is doing here, and the rest of the team, also), and my transitions ;) My work life has got very demmanding lately and I also plan to take some time off computers when this work peak goes away, to get rid of the stress. > [...] predictions of my leaving Debian are premature. I don't even think anyone is speculating about this. But I might have missed something, since I am so busy. Are you trying to avoid getting that wonderful tattoo you promised to get when we *release on time* (I know we will) by running to the woods? ;) In short, I am in no position at the moment to adopt piuparts, I lack the skills to become upstream, but if a group is started I will be very happy to join it and work in piuparts when my availability does not suck. Thanks for the fish! -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with piuparts?
Bill Allombert wrote: > I am certainly interested helping with piuparts but I am not confident > I understand where you would like the project to go. Count me in! (See a longer email I wrote on this some minutes ago). -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is Stan Vasilyev MIA?
Bas Wijnen wrote: > http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-beyond-pkging.en.html#s-mia-qa, > and that mentions debian-devel should be asked before [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also, Cc:ing the guy or the bug number is nice. -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Does anybody know where Janez Rabzelj Zappone is?
Carlos Martín Nieto wrote: > I ask because he took (or was going to anyway) maintainership of the > package blam, but this was about a month ago and no new version has > been uploaded. I am not so sure, he doesn't look like he intends to adopt blam: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=387945 I think he just > I sent him an e-mail a few days ago but he hasn't replied. There is > already a package ready which fixes at least two of the RC bugs, and > perhaps another or two as a side-effect. Great job! > I'm not looking forward to hijacking a package, but with four RC bugs > and the release of etch closing in, I don't see another way to > include it in etch. I'd say go ahead. We need to release etch with a working blam version. He can always help you co-maintain if he is interested. > So, if anybody knows that he is working on it, please speak up, > otherwise I will be requesting a sponsor for an updated blam package. You just found your sponsor, email me in private. -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug mass filling
Miriam Ruiz wrote: > Why don't we all try to calm down and get less paranoid? I hope there are big Finnish saunas in Edinburgh. I think we all need to gather for a hot sauna next DebConf. We should change this "you can't flame people you have had sauna with" to "you can't flame me until you've had sauna with me" :) > Most of us are nice people with just strong feelings about their > ideas, but I guess it might be nice for all of us to learn how to > empathyse and respect other's ideas, and think for a moment that other > people might also good reasons for them, as not everything is black or > white. What I do as an exercise in order to improve the skills you mention, empathy, respect, the feel of pleasure from working with others, is to work with the people I sponsor. They provide manpower and skills I lack, they fix bugs I have no time to look at, while I learn from them as they learn from me. I make mistakes they forgive me for, they make mistakes I can help them fix. It is something I encourage you all to do. Take a sponsoree and be his/her mentor. It's good for the karma. -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug mass filling
Anthony Towns wrote: > Please hold off on filing them for a few days, so I can add > usertag-on-submit support to debbugs, so that it should be possible to > automatically track this stuff, and easily avoid filing duplicate bugs > if they're not fixed the next time bugs get filed. Thanks, AJ. That is just what I was about to ask for :) -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please upload NMU of tix package to close #360920
Hi there, Matthias, Michael Michael Hanke wrote: > tags 360920 patch Matthias, I will review this package and sponsor the NMU. I will then upload to the delayed-1 queue. I hope you have no problem with this. -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[help] Tix: seeking advice for #394635
Hi there, fellow DDs, Debian enthusiasts and groff experts, I am looking at #394635. My eyes are starting to bleed. This bug is not even RC, but it is ugly, and I would hate to ship Etch with it. All the man pages for this package use macros, sitting in a file called man.macros. I have no idea where to install this file, or how to tell the man pages where to look for this file once I manage to install it somewhere that is not insane and ugly. My falied attempts to bring some sanity to this issue are found here: http://www.amayita.com/debian/1_sponsored/tix/old/tix-8.4.0/debian/rules I would very much appreciate a patch, pointer, hint, or hug. Thanks in advance! -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [help] Tix: seeking advice for #394635
Hi Matthew, Matthew Vernon wrote: > So you've put the macros file as /usr/share/man/tixman.macros. That's > sensible. Thanks for confirming this. > Now you want the manpages to use this file? > The thing to do is to edit the man-pages to the line that says: > .so man.macros > becomes: > .so tixman.macros > Doing this with sed in the rules file should be pretty > straightforward. I already did that by hand. I guess I am a bit dumb when it comes to automating stuff. The problem is that the macros file gets installed as: /usr/share/man/tixman.macros.gz My concern is that this file gets compressed, and I have tried to manually uncompress it, and leave it compressed. There seems to be no difference in how the manpages are displayed. Or I can't really spot it. Any advice? -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [help] Tix: seeking advice for #394635
Also lintian is screaming at me for various reasons: http://www.amayita.com/debian/1_sponsored/tix/lintian The only ones I can't fix are the $CURSE broken manpages. Or the $CURSE broken way I am trying to make them work. Thanks again for any hint. -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [help] Tix: seeking advice for #394635
Piotr Ozarowski wrote: > dh_compress -X.macros Thanks, that was helpful. -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lots of (easily recognisible) spam sent to the BTS today
Hi, Hamish Hamish Moffatt wrote: > I wrote a trivial perl script to which I pipe in BTS spams from mutt; > it extracts the bug number from the Subject then runs the bts program. URL? ;) -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IPW3945
Daniel Baumann wrote: > Philippe Cloutier wrote: > > See #363967. I heard some doubts about panthera's ability to handle > > more stuff, so maybe you can offer help. > > thanks you for your trust in me, this makes me very happy. Daniel, don't take this personally, don't be unhappy. I know your TODO list is huge, I also know you are going through it, at the best pace you can, specially so close to the releseaseof Etch, and you do know I have offered you my help several times :* It is still available for you whenever you need me. Just ping me. Philippe, we (Daniel, me, and the whole Debian community) welcome your patches, your testing and comments on the available ones, and welcome encouragement messages, such as thanking Daniel for all the hard work he has done so far and will keep doing in the future. Philippe, I also encourage you to read http://blog.daniel-baumann.ch/2006/09/04#20060904_missing-you and understand that we, the people who put our limited free time and sometimes scarce energy in Debian, are humans too. I value Daniel's work, I value his dedication, and I personally benefit from his work. I have also danced Tango with him, and it was a pleasure. Thanks. -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#397715: ITP: dudki -- a process maintenance daemon
Hi, Emmanuel dudki sounds interesting! Emmanuel Bouthenot wrote: > Dudki! is a process maintenance daemon that checks whether > certain processes are running (based on pidfiles) and, if > needed, tries to restart them. It supports a self-test > commandline invocation which can be used in a cron job. Can you briefly explain the differences or advantages over monit? -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Seeking sponsor for MaxDB r-c upload
Hi Martin, Martin Kittel wrote: > the upload of the latest maxdb-7.5.00 package that fixes a > release-critical bug for etch (#398413). I will sponsor your upload. -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hijacking ITA: sa-exim
Magnus Holmgren wrote: > On Friday 10 November 2006 13:23, Magnus Holmgren wrote: > > Can I take this package anyway? I use it since I feel it still has > > something Exim's built-in "spam" ACL condition (also known as > > exiscan) doesn't offer; namely, more flexibility in the adding of > > X-Spam headers. Please go ahead, and procceed. Anand can join you when he is less busy or more responsive. Retitle the bug accordingly, change the owner and please give sa-exim lots of love. Happy hacking! -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#402351: ITP: imsniff -- Simple program to log Instant Messaging activity on the network
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Amaya Rodrigo Sastre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: imsniff Version : 0.04 Upstream Author : Carlos Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/im-snif/ * License : GPLv2 Programming Lang: C++ Description : Simple program to log Instant Messaging activity on the network The imsniff program can be used to log IM activity on the network. It uses libpcap to capture packets and analyzes them, logging conversation, contact lists, etc. Users connecting after imsniff is started can get pretty good results, including complete contact lists and events (displaying a name change, for example). Users already connected will be able to get the conversations, but will miss the other information. The only required parameter is the interface name to listen to. This can be any interface that libpcap supports. A sample imsniff.conf.sample file is included. -- System Information: Debian Release: 4.0 APT prefers unstable APT policy: (990, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-3-k7 Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=es_ES.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) (ignored: LC_ALL set to en_US.UTF-8) -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com
Re: List of packages with problems wrt release
Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Amaya Rodrigo Sastre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > amaya (U): in unstable (9.51-2.1) but not in testing. I was removed from testing!? Are you guys releasing without me? :) > twiki (U): has RC bugs (#402817) This has been fixed, and there is also a security upload in the way,so please do not remove it from testing yet. I will request hinting when the package has been fixed. Thanks -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: db.debian.org (and related infrastructure) updates
Nicolas Boullis wrote: > What about gender? How is it specified? Currently it is a drop down that allows you to choose: - unspecified - male - female Which in my opinion reflects sex and not gender. I would rather have it as an input field where people can express their gender in the way they want to, as gender has little to do with biological sex, and there's more than two options for it. Please correct me if I am wrong. -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: db.debian.org (and related infrastructure) updates
Alexey Feldgendler wrote: > What other kinds of gender are there? It would be interesting to see > some examples. I paste some email I already privately answered. Someone wrote: > Wildly OT, but don't people generally self identify more with one > gender or the other? If "generally" equals "white and rich" (as in clean tab water), yes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender#Sex Gender can refer to the (biological) condition of being male or female, or less commonly hermaphrodite or neuter, which are missing. Not everywhere else: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_gender Then you have - Queer (term used to describe a sexual orientation and/or gender identity or gender expression that does not conform to heteronormative society). - Gender bender (informal term used to refer to a person who actively transgresses, or "bends," expected gender roles) - Transgender (individuals, behaviors, and groups involving tendencies that diverge from the normative gender role (woman or man) commonly, but not always, assigned at birth, as well as the role traditionally held by society) - Postgenderism (Advocates of postgenderism argue that the presence of gender roles, social stratification, and sexual dimorphisms are generally to the detriment of individuals and society, arguing that masculinity and femininity are oppressive social constructs) - Genderfuck is a gender performance which "fucks with" or plays with traditional gender identities, gender roles, and gender presentation. - Genderqueer (someone who identifies as a gender other than "man" or "woman," or someone who identifies as neither, both, or some combination thereof) > [I really don't knwo what the proper terms would be that didn't > conflate both gender and phenotypic sex (which of course, is distinct > from genetic sex.)] Me neither, that's why an input field feels less strict to me, and more welcoming to all individuals. -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: db.debian.org (and related infrastructure) updates
Kevin Mark wrote: > Whats the use for such data? for postal mail? For gift giving? I've > yet to see anyone in cyberspace address someone as 'genderqueer' or > 'male',YMMV. Yeah, I also wonder what this LDAP field is good for, but if we are going to have it, let's make it, at least, accurate. -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: db.debian.org (and related infrastructure) updates
Steve Langasek wrote: > But if all of our Japanese, Chinese, Greek Orthodox, Muslim, and > French Revolutionary developers can tolerate having to enter their > birthdates using the Gregorian calendar, I think we'll be able to make > do with an opt-in binary gender classification too. ROTFL You are so damn right! I will shut up now! :* -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Announce: zerotools (tools to keep virtual machine disks cleaner)
Hi, Aleksandr Aleksandr Koltsoff wrote: > Zerotools are a set of tools to aid keeping virtual disks clean (by > filling binary zero to those regions which are no longer in "use"). I maintain the package perforate. It contains a very similar utility, zum, that is just a small c binary that seems to do the same. This package is no longer maintained upstream, so you might be interested in looking at the source for zum.c (8 kb) and maybe tell me if this is superseeded by your Zerotools application, which sounds very likely to me. Also take a look at http://bugs.debian.org/294297 and be warned that these kind of utilities can ruin a vfat file system (just warning you in case you have not thought about it). BTW, patches or a new upstream would be very welcome :) Happy hacking! -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#322762: no blocking bugs anymore
Santiago Vila wrote: > No, the next step is to close the bug and celebrate it. As love ly as it sounds, I'd like to see what piuparts has to say about it :) But att the pace we are moving (piuparts) I expect to fix this in a different release. -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#322762: no blocking bugs anymore
Joey Hess wrote: > I note that we still arn't 100% sure we've caught every last upgrade > issue involving /usr/doc, since AFAIK puiparts has not been used to > test upgrades of everything. Pity :( > Also, I see that there are still some lintian warnings about it at > http://lintian.debian.org/reports/Tpostinst-should-not-set-usr-doc-link.html > but I guess these are obsolete, since it was last updated in August. I > spot-checked a couple of packages and they seem fixed. More up2date findings: http://merkel.debian.org/~ballombe/lintian-etch-i386/reports/Tpostinst-should-not-set-usr-doc-link.html Still obsolete packages, though. > Yes, I think it's time to reassign it to base-files, to get the > directory removed on upgrade if it's empty. Yay! -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com
Re: possible problem with ftp.us.debian.org
Wesley J. Landaker wrote: > Months; Confirmed. > I've had to switch 10's of clients to use ftp.debian.org instead since > I've been getting intermittant problems like this with > ftp.us.debian.org since ~ October last year. [EMAIL PROTECTED]>head /etc/hosts #35.9.37.225http.us.debian.org 128.101.240.212 http.us.debian.org I switch between the two of them. They are the two that work best. Which reminds me that I should switch to a European Mirror :) -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: We want to honestly apoligize to the whole Debian Community
Gregg Coner wrote: > Our actions in the Debian Mailing Lists were uncalled for. We honestly > regret everything we said and did. Good, now please just stop. -- .''`. I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think : :' : I have ended up where I needed to be -- Douglas Adams `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#360285: ITP: libjoey -- forks itself and does several things at the same time
Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
> I'd like the source for Joey, please. :-)
Formorer, please clarify with upstream, I have heard (today) that
libjoey is not 100% free, as in DFSG-free.
A concerned developer and browser,
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O: lirc - Linux Infra-red Remote Control support
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Re: O: lirc - Linux Infra-red Remote Control support
Guus Sliepen wrote: > You should file a wnpp bug. Not yet, I wanted to know if there was any interest before just leaving it out in the cold. Well, maybe you are right, maybe filing this wnpp bug is not as bad as it feels to me :) But... I have tried before to set up a co-maintainance group, and somewhat failed. There's an alioth project, Hector worked on lirc and most of the real nasty bugs are gone now, I still need to do house cleaning, and would like to remain in the packaging group, but not as lead bottleneck^W developer. > Since I'm also the maintainer of the inputlirc package, I could adopt > this package, but I'd rather let someone else who (still) uses > homebrewn receivers adopt it. Yes, that would be nice + makes a lot of sense. > Let me know if noone else steps up. I will. -- .''`. I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think : :' : I have ended up where I needed to be -- Douglas Adams `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RFA: lirc - Linux Infra-red Remote Control support
Steve Langasek wrote: > In that case, you probably want to open a RFA bug rather than an O bug. Yep. I got #364606 now. Really, people, nobody wants a beautiful lirc package? -- .''`. I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think : :' : I have ended up where I needed to be -- Douglas Adams `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The correct use of debian-devel
Cesare Leonardi wrote: > In particular, the primary question is: Who can write on debian-devel? http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/ Discussion about technical development topics. (High-volume mailing list.) This list is not moderated; posting is allowed by anyone. (I would add: Anyone who knows how to quote). Happy hacking! -- .''`. Sometimes the littlest feet leave the biggest impressions : :' : `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#322762: Done in NMU
tags 322762 fixed thanks -- .''`. Fuck your fascist beauty standards : :' : `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?
Huge Troll Warning -- ·''`. Policy is your friend. Trust the Policy. : :' : Love the Policy. Obey the Policy. -- Lars Wirzenius `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?
Marco d'Itri wrote: > It's sad that many people replied this way when it's obvious that > Debian has stopped innovating long ago. There is plenty of ways to express any opinion, and imho, the approach taken here is not the most constructive, as several other people have already pointed out. -- ·''`. Policy is your friend. Trust the Policy. : :' : Love the Policy. Obey the Policy. -- Lars Wirzenius `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian conference in the US?
Stephen Frost dijo: > Those who have concerns or political issues need not attend but that > should not stop the conference from happening if there are enough > people who are interested. Absolutely true, but I found Canada much mor affordable than the States last summer ;-) -- I would rather starve than lose your acceptance .''`.My eyes will always show my empty soul : :' :- Boy Sets Fire `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (Sid 2.4.20 Ext3) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com
Re: problemas con ftp.es.debian.org
> On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 01:39:48PM +0200, Eric Van Buggenhaut wrote:
> > Get:29 http://ftp.es.debian.org unstable/contrib Release [85B]
Estás volviendo loco al proxy de la Timo, me temo :-)
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Re: Debian 10th birthday gear
Sebastian Rittau dijo: > More installations than users? Yes. Example: I have several machines to myself. All of them run Debian. That would make one user, 5 installations. -- "You work so hard at not being seen as a sex object, .''`.after a while you're not seen at all" : :' :- The Life of David Gale `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (Sid 2.4.20 Ext3) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com
Re: Debian 10th birthday gear
Christian Marillat dijo: > This is possible when users come from the Windows world. Re-install > from the beginning when something doesn't work. *LOL* and so common! I have seen people reinstalling because they didn't set up the network or X right the first time! -- "You work so hard at not being seen as a sex object, .''`.after a while you're not seen at all" : :' :- The Life of David Gale `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (Sid 2.4.20 Ext3) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com
Re: volunteering accomodations for Vancouver debconf
Jonathan Walther dijo: > Hi. When is this debconf that will be held in Vancouver? I can > provide free accomodations and organic homebrew beer for up to two > developers, preferably ones who are on a tight budget and could not > otherwise make it here. This rises two questions for me: - Debcamp @ vancouver? - Possibility of a gym arrangement similar to Oslo's? I really enjoyed the fact of sharing accomodation. -- .''`.A woman must be a cute, cuddly, naive little thing, : :' : tender, sweet, and stupid-- Adolf Hitler `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (Sid 2.4.20 Ext3) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com
Re: debconf 2005 in Vienna, Austria
Martin List-Petersen dijo: > Something like that sounds sane. It gives even the possibility > organising a "shuttle"-bus or something likewise from LinuxTag to > Vienna That sound so appealing that I would even consider also attendig LinuxTag :-) -- .''`.A woman must be a cute, cuddly, naive little thing, : :' : tender, sweet, and stupid-- Adolf Hitler `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (Sid 2.4.20 Ext3) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com
Re: arch, svn, cvs (was: Bug#323855: ITP: opencvs -- OpenBSD CVS implementation with special emphasis in security)
Daniel Stone wrote: > vim! emacs! And my cats looked out to see who was calling them... :) -- .''`. Follow the white Rabbit - Ranty (and Lewis Carroll) : :' : `. `'Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (Sid 2.6.11 Ext3) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intend to hijack rrdtool
Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] was pinged several times about updating the package He is just dead busy, go ahead. -- ·''`.Moi je voudrais bien, un beau matin, qu'il y est : :' : une fleur dans mon jardin `. `' -- Manu Chao `- Proudly running (unstable) Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#438885: Not blocking anymore
unblock 438885 by 353660 unblock 438885 by 367727 block 438885 by 381485 thanks [18:21] >> amaya joins #debian-bugs [18:42] < amaya> so what to do about http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=438885? [18:43] < amaya> linda seems to be "dead" and jukebox-mercury is only present in oldstable [18:46] < bzed> I'd ignore linda [18:46] < luk_> I would close the jukebox-mercury bug [18:46] < bzed> same for the jukebox-mercury stuff, it was removed from unstable anyway [18:47] < luk_> the linda one is indeed a clear sign that linda is not really maintained anymore and should probably just be removed There is still bugs present in oldstable, for reference: http://lintian.debian.org/reports/tags/maintainer-script-calls-init-script-directly.html sauce: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=367759 dict-gcide: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=341415 dict-elements: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=348259 dict-jargon: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=348263 net-acct: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=367725 rbootd: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=367729 libroxen-imho: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=367730 iptotal: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=367731 genpower: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=367732 dict-moby-thesaurus: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=367733 dict-bouvier: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=367737 dict-gazetteer2k-zips: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=367740 battery-stats: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=367745 dict-gazetteer2k-zips: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=367740 tama: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=367755 gnudip: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=367762 Important: lintian: Also check for not using invoke-rc.d in other scripts. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=381485 -- ·''`.Moi je voudrais bien, un beau matin, qu'il y ait : :' : une fleur dans mon jardin `. `' -- Manu Chao `- Proudly running (unstable) Debian GNU/Linux
Bug#469049: debmake is deprecated
Package: general Severity: normal I am opening this bug to have a tracker for the "debmake is deprecated" transition progress. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/03/msg00019.html for details. The remaining bugs, that will become blockers, tagged important, are: #372973: cksfv: debmake is deprecated #372985: af: debmake is deprecated #372986: crypt++el: debmake is deprecated #372995: biew: debmake is deprecated Need raise severity for: #372964: xtranslate: debmake is deprecated #372965: vsound: debmake is deprecated #372970: pilot-template: debmake is deprecated #372972: floppybackup: debmake is deprecated #372977: tkusr: debmake is deprecated #372984: ucbmpeg-play: debmake is deprecated #373001: libwn6: debmake is deprecated Thanks -- System Information: Debian Release: lenny/sid APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Kernel: Linux 2.6.24-1-amd64 (SMP w/1 CPU core) Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash -- ·''`.Moi je voudrais bien, un beau matin, qu'il y ait : :' : une fleur dans mon jardin `. `' -- Manu Chao `- Proudly running (unstable) Debian GNU/Linux
Re: Processed: Re: debmake is deprecated
My bad, all of these package are not found in stable or testing. Transition is finished. Sorry for the noise. Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: > Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > owner 469049 Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Bug#469049: debmake is deprecated > Owner recorded as Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. > > > # see below for explanation > > severity 372964 important > Bug#372964: xtranslate: debmake is deprecated > Severity set to `important' from `normal' > > > severity 372965 important > Bug#372965: vsound: debmake is deprecated > Severity set to `important' from `normal' > > > severity 372970 important > Bug#372970: pilot-template: debmake is deprecated > Severity set to `important' from `normal' > > > severity 372972 important > Bug#372972: floppybackup: debmake is deprecated > Severity set to `important' from `normal' > > > severity 372977 important > Bug#372977: tkusr: debmake is deprecated > Severity set to `important' from `normal' > > > severity 372984 important > Bug#372984: ucbmpeg-play: debmake is deprecated > Severity set to `important' from `normal' > > > severity 373001 important > Bug#373001: libwn6: debmake is deprecated > Severity set to `important' from `normal' > > > block 469049 by 372973 > Bug#372973: cksfv: debmake is deprecated > Bug#469049: debmake is deprecated > Was not blocked by any bugs. > Blocking bugs of 469049 added: 372973 > > > block 469049 by 372985 > Bug#372985: af: debmake is deprecated > Bug#469049: debmake is deprecated > Was blocked by: 372973 > Blocking bugs of 469049 added: 372985 > > > block 469049 by 372986 > Bug#372986: crypt++el: debmake is deprecated > Bug#469049: debmake is deprecated > Was blocked by: 372973 372985 > Blocking bugs of 469049 added: 372986 > > > block 469049 by 372995 > Bug#372995: biew: debmake is deprecated > Bug#469049: debmake is deprecated > Was blocked by: 372973 372985 372986 > Blocking bugs of 469049 added: 372995 > > > block 469049 by 372964 > Bug#372964: xtranslate: debmake is deprecated > Bug#469049: debmake is deprecated > Was blocked by: 372973 372985 372986 372995 > Blocking bugs of 469049 added: 372964 > > > block 469049 by 372965 > Bug#372965: vsound: debmake is deprecated > Bug#469049: debmake is deprecated > Was blocked by: 372964 372973 372985 372986 372995 > Blocking bugs of 469049 added: 372965 > > > block 469049 by 372970 > Bug#372970: pilot-template: debmake is deprecated > Bug#469049: debmake is deprecated > Was blocked by: 372964 372965 372973 372985 372986 372995 > Blocking bugs of 469049 added: 372970 > > > block 469049 by 372972 > Bug#372972: floppybackup: debmake is deprecated > Bug#469049: debmake is deprecated > Was blocked by: 372964 372965 372970 372973 372985 372986 372995 > Blocking bugs of 469049 added: 372972 > > > block 469049 by 372977 > Bug#372977: tkusr: debmake is deprecated > Bug#469049: debmake is deprecated > Was blocked by: 372964 372965 372970 372972 372973 372985 372986 372995 > Blocking bugs of 469049 added: 372977 > > > block 469049 by 372984 > Bug#372984: ucbmpeg-play: debmake is deprecated > Bug#469049: debmake is deprecated > Was blocked by: 372964 372965 372970 372972 372973 372977 372985 372986 372995 > Blocking bugs of 469049 added: 372984 > > > block 469049 by 373001 > Bug#373001: libwn6: debmake is deprecated > Bug#469049: debmake is deprecated > Was blocked by: 372964 372965 372970 372972 372973 372977 372984 372985 > 372986 372995 > Blocking bugs of 469049 added: 373001 > > > thanks > Stopping processing here. > > Please contact me if you need assistance. > > Debian bug tracking system administrator > (administrator, Debian Bugs database) -- ·''`.Moi je voudrais bien, un beau matin, qu'il y ait : :' : une fleur dans mon jardin `. `' -- Manu Chao `- Proudly running (unstable) Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mass bug filing: non-UTF8 debian/{control.changelog}
Bas Zoetekouw wrote: > I'm planning to file bugs for packages that use non-UTF-8 encodings in > debian/control and/or debian/copyright. Can you report on any progress in this? Is there a bug that already tracks this issue? Thanks -- ·''`.Moi je voudrais bien, un beau matin, qu'il y ait : :' : une fleur dans mon jardin `. `' -- Manu Chao `- Proudly running (unstable) Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mass bug filing: non-UTF8 debian/{control.changelog}
Hey! Thanks for the status update. Russ Allbery wrote: > There are four source packages left with changelog encoding problems: > > http://lintian.debian.org/reports/tags/debian-changelog-file-uses-obsolete-national-encoding.html > > There are no remaining packages with control encoding problems. > > There is one package with a NEWS.Debian encoding problem and 417 packages > with debian/copyright encoding problems, but those weren't release goals. According to http://release.debian.org/lenny/goals.txt # UTF-8 debian/changelog and debian/control Advocate: Russ Allbery Release-Team-Contact: ?? Description: Fix all remaining debian/changelog and debian/control files which don't use UTF-8. These are easily found by lintian via debian-changelog-file-uses-obsolete-national-encoding and debian-control-file-uses-obsolete-national-encoding. Bug-User: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug-Tag: goal-utf8-control Bug-Url: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/[EMAIL PROTECTED]&tag=goal-utf8-control State: confirmed I think this Release Goal can be changed to "State: finished" very soon. Another release goal for lenny+1 should be issued inheriting the leftovers from this one. The "Bug-Url" field lists several bugs that seem not to exist in sid/testing anymore: #453966: xmms-arts: debian/changelog should be utf8 * [2008-01-20] xmms-arts REMOVED from testing (Britney) * [2008-01-20] Removed 0.7.1-4 from unstable (Joerg Jaspert) #453982: gmanedit: debian/changelog should be utf8 * Orphaned, still in testing, not sure about unstable. * [2008-02-11] gmanedit 0.3.3-12.1 MIGRATED to testing (Britney) #453991: gkrellmms: debian/changelog should be utf8 * [2008-02-29] Removed 2.1.22-1 from unstable (Joerg Jaspert) * [2008-01-21] gkrellmms REMOVED from testing (Britney) #454016: libglade-perl: debian/changelog should be utf8 * [2008-02-16] glade-perl REMOVED from testing (Britney) * [2008-02-15] Removed 0.61-1.1 from unstable (Joerg Jaspert) #454027: sgmltexi: debian/changelog should be utf8 * [2008-01-31] sgmltexi REMOVED from testing (Britney) * [2008-01-31] Removed 2003.00.00-2.2 from unstable (Joerg Jaspert) #454016: libglade-perl: debian/changelog should be utf8 * [2008-02-16] glade-perl REMOVED from testing (Britney) * [2008-02-15] Removed 0.61-1.1 from unstable (Joerg Jaspert) Maybe these bugs can be closed or marked as non-blocking? What about gmanedit? I am Cc:ing the ITA for followup. Anibal, do you plan to upload soon? Could you mark #453982 pending? Stuff that still needs to happen: * radiusclient: NMU (patch at #456870) by Marga (announced Thu, 28 Feb 2008) * gmanedit: upload with a new maintainer, hopefully fixing other bugs too by Anibal Alvelar * unblock of #453954 by #453966, #453982, #453991, #454016, #454027, #454016 (Amaya, about to). -- ·''`.Moi je voudrais bien, un beau matin, qu'il y ait : :' : une fleur dans mon jardin `. `' -- Manu Chao `- Proudly running (unstable) Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mass bug filing: non-UTF8 debian/{control.changelog}
Amaya wrote: > * gmanedit: upload with a new maintainer, hopefully fixing other bugs too by > Anibal Alvelar > * unblock of #453954 by #453966, #453982, #453991, #454016, #454027, #454016 > (Amaya, about to). Sorry, #453982 should not be marked un-blocking, as gmanedit is expecting a new upload. The rest of the unblocked have just been issued. They will be closed when the packages leave stable and old-stable. I hope this answers Bubulle's question at #453966. -- ·''`.Moi je voudrais bien, un beau matin, qu'il y ait : :' : une fleur dans mon jardin `. `' -- Manu Chao `- Proudly running (unstable) Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: triggers wishlist
Raphael Hertzog wrote: > And thanks to Guillem for doing the work despite the unfriendly atmosphere > that some managed to create. Ditto. -- ·''`. A waste is a terrible thing to mind! : :' : `. `' `-Proudly running (unstable) Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RFH: piuparts testing of the archive
Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Before the etch release, I did a few piuparts runs on all packages, > and filed the resulting bugs. I'd like someone to take over that task > for lenny. Whoever takes up this task, please keep #322762 updated about findings related to the /usr/doc symlink transition. I can't wait to see it go away :) -- ·''`. Fuck your fascist beauty standards : :' : `. `' `-Proudly running (unstable) Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NMU versioning
James Vega wrote: > "The version must be the version of the last upload, plus +nmuX, where > X is a counter starting at 1." I have found that NMUing native source packages is a bit tricky, as in, what is the consensuous regarding this increment? Where to increment? I hope I made myself understood, but I am at loss, not enough caffeine in bloodstream. -- ·''`. Come, let me sing into your ear, those dancing days are gone : :' : I carry the sun in a golden cup, the moon in a silver bag `. `' `- Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NMU versioning
Kartik Mistry wrote: > someversion+nmu1, someversion+nmu2 for example see, bzflag package. It > is at 2.0.10.20071115+nmu1 right now. Thanks, that answers my question. -- ·''`. Come, let me sing into your ear, those dancing days are gone : :' : I carry the sun in a golden cup, the moon in a silver bag `. `' `- Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Handling of (inactive) Debian Accounts
Hi, there Joerg Jaspert wrote: > To reduce the security risk an unused open account has, and also to > get the number of Developers to reflect the reality, we, the Debian > Account Managers, decided to do regular "WaT"[2] runs. Are you familiar with the MIA Team work? How is this work insufficient that this extra check needs to be implemented? Have you tought of a way to integrate the results of your tool into the MIA database? I tend to welcome this efforts, but I see this as a "let's reinvent the wheel" thing. Maybe this could be triggered by request of the MIA team, instead of by not voting? AFAIK, only around half of the DDs vote. Thanks! -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Handling of (inactive) Debian Accounts
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > I think the difference is that the MIA process is too > conservative, It starts off being polite, indeed. And patient. You never know the reason why a person is not so active anymore. Tbm gave a talk about how it is done and why it is done like that in Oslo, 2003 (Debconf3). Worth seeing. > and does not require an positive action on the part of maintainers, Yes, it does. They need to fix their packages, or they get orphaned. When no packages are left, we talk to DAM. > and starts with the default that all maintainers are active. Yes. That's the deafult state for any DD, even when you file a bug in their packages. > Looking at people who vote for a DPL means that the DD's have to take > an active role in indicating that they are present. I was technically MIA for quite a bit, and still voted. > How many other MIA people are undiscovered by our current process? I'm sure there are plenty. And I *do* want to believe that no more than 25% of us are MIA. There's currently aprox 650 entries in the MIA db. This does not mean that they are MIA now, but that they have been at some point. This means people come and go in and out of MIA, and it's just life. > Have you considered that most of the other half are not around, and > that our MIA process has not found them out? I am not opposed to this as long as it is done in sync with MIA. I see no reason to bother people twice about the same issue by different Debian teams. Redundancy of data makes it harder to track people down, imho. -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Handling of (inactive) Debian Accounts
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > So what is your oh-so-elegant solution to the MIA account problem? Humans problems have no technical solution. -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Seeking for Adrian Bridgett
I provided Christian with alternate email addresses from the MIA database. -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Review for NMU for mrd6
Hi there, Anand Kumria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> seems to be MIA and Laurent has a patch ready for an NMU. I do not know mrd6 well enough and I would appreciate input for the patch Laurent provided at #394590. Laurent Bigonville wrote: > On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:45:43 +0100 Amaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Laurent, > > In the meantime, if you'd like to help with his packages, maybe you > > can reply to bugs yourself, test patches, and help the QA team > > prepare NMUs or fixes, or if you want to adopt some of his package > > now, you are more than welcome to do so, no need to be a DD either. > > > > If you need a sponsor for this fixes, just ping us. > > Well I've already made patch[1] for the mrd6 package, the problem is > that nobody on debian-mentors want to upload my NMU due to the > severity of the bug :/ But I'm still thinking that this should be > fixed before etch release. Could you upload[2] it for me? I don't want > to adopt this package now because I don't use it ATM. > > Regards > > Laurent > > [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=394590 > [2] > http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/m/mrd6/mrd6_0.9.5-release-1.1.dsc Input on this patch is very welcome, as is an NMU/adopter to finally fix this issue. Thanks in advance! -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Review for NMU for mrd6
Marco d'Itri wrote: > Hugo is the upstream maintainer of mrd6 and he committed it, so it > should be correct. Yes, and thanks! We managed to get in contact with Hugo and he's already half-tricked into adopting mrd6 :) Happy hacking! -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I *love* goodbye-microsoft.com
Russell Coker wrote: > On Friday 23 February 2007 19:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > perhaps you should consider goodbye-fedora.org too ;-) > > Converting from Fedora to Debian is not a challenge, merely run > debootstrap from a root shell. Alternatively, install debtakeover: http://freshmeat.net/projects/debtakeover/ http://www.hadrons.org/~guillem/debian/debtakeover/README -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian French localisation team completes the translation of debconf screens
Christian Perrier wrote: > As of March 3rd 2007, all packages in Debian unstable that have > translatable debconf templates are translated into French [1]. Go bubullei (and team), go! -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/usr/doc is finished!
Isn't it amazing that I got this mail on my Birthday? Now, if he would only use a proper MUA ;) - Forwarded message from Debian Bug Tracking System <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:45:49 +0200 From: Holger Levsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: happy birthday! /usr/doc is finally gone User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, In 1999, Debian began moving /usr/doc to /usr/share/doc to comply with the FHS. In 2005 Joey Hess picked up the leftovers from this task, which in turn where picked up by Amaya in 2006. Today I have the honor and fun to close this blocker bug, which was used to track this transition and to wish Amaya the very best and much more for her birthday :-) I love you! Mucho! Have a great day and many many more happy days to come! :-) regards, Holger P.S.: there is a lintian check in place to prevent /usr/doc issues to come back: http://lintian.debian.org/tags/postinst-should-not-set-usr-doc-link.html - the last remaining package has been fixed in unstable and is awaiting either migration or removal to/from testing. I don't bother about http://lintian.debian.org/tags/readme-debian-mentions-usr-doc.html though I think that still speaking about /usr/doc is a sure sign of being behind the times... Policy is your friend. Trust the Policy. Love the Policy. Obey the Policy. - End forwarded message - -- ·''`. It's never too late to have a happy childhood : :' : `. `' `- Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SmellyWerewolf.com perfume & make-up discount
Steve Kemp wrote: > with debian-women making strides forward it seems this was a step > backward. Same here -- ·''`. It's never too late to have a happy childhood : :' : `. `' `- Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SmellyWerewolf.com perfume & make-up discount
Eduard Bloch wrote: > * Miriam Ruiz [Mon, Nov 24 2008, 12:07:53AM]: > > Sorry but Debian is not a men's club and we're not their "chicks". > > Come on, peace! I respect you as woman or man or whoever you are, there > is no need to polarize the discussion. Well, you can't simply ask people to not feel offended when they do. s/sexism/racism and everyone gets the point. -- ·''`. It's never too late to have a happy childhood : :' : `. `' `- Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NEW processing
Kalle Kivimaa wrote: > Lintian errors are almost always an immediate REJECT, so they don't > really slow down the process. Warnings slow the process down as then > I'm required to make a judgement call as to allow the package in or > not, so I'm much happier if the packager deals with them beforehand. > > debian/control and debian/copyright are the two main files for > ftpmaster checks, so having those clear and well written makes my job > faster. debian/changelog needs to have valid information, too. > debian/rules I check to make sure that it is sane - or at least looks > like sane. debian/source.lintian-overrides is always checked. This imput seems to me the most useful contribution to this thread, Zach came up with a very good idea inmediately. I think tests are important in our strive for quality, and I think they could be very much automatic, just as Zach pointed out. An automatic lintian reject if "E:" saves time for mainainers, ftp-masters and because of this everyone wins (users also are available to test packages much sooner). If we could get every ftp-team involved members in producing this kind of useful feedback, we could come up with other good ideas as on how to autmatize these check saving the ftp-team the fustration of reiteration of simple tasks, so that their job also becomes more interesting and thus, more motivating. I feel this works the same way as "antispam software helps in mailing list moderation tasks", if you know what I mean. Keep up this good thread, and think really hard about what of these tasks are easy to automate, given that get get more input from the ftp-team. -- ·''`. It's never too late to have a happy childhood : :' : `. `' `- Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NEW processing
Thomas Viehmann wrote: > In essence, this whole trip through NEW would not have happened if the > maintainer would actually routinely install his packages before > uploading. I am all in favor of fast-tracking urgent stuff, but the > deal should involve the maintainer making extra-sure to get things > right, too. I think that understand what the FTP masters do, how they do it, and the already documented errors that they look for would make us, as maintainers, be a lot more aware of what can go wrong with our NEW packages. That's why I believe that helpful input, in the line of Kalle Kivimaa, is crucial in order to make their jobs easyer. Maybe providing some sort of updated unstable to test our packages on, in case we don't trust that our system has not become too tainted due to intensive testing, would help. I know some of us do not have the resources to easily build cleaner testing targets. -- ·''`. It's never too late to have a happy childhood : :' : `. `' `- Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NEW processing
Joerg Jaspert wrote: > Note that we currently are working on integrating lintian into dak in > a way that lets us autoreject on selected lintian tags. That will help > NEW a little too, even if NEW is the smallest driving force for this > change. But in the same change we *can* go and reject all NEW > packages that show *any* (unoverridden) lintian E:, that would be a > large batch already. Wrong! The overrriden ones should be a lot of fun to look at. -- ·''`. It's never too late to have a happy childhood : :' : `. `' `- Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NEW processing
Russ Allbery wrote: > If you think Lintian is warning about something that it shouldn't warn > about, please report a bug. In some cases, it may be that we think that > you are not maintaining your package the way that we think you should > based on our understanding of the general Debian consensus, but a lot of > the time we just didn't realize. So you should at least make us *say* > that if that's really the case. You might be surprised by us agreeing > with you. :) +1 -- ·''`. It's never too late to have a happy childhood : :' : `. `' `- Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NEW processing
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 12:29:30AM +0100, Amaya wrote: > > This imput seems to me the most useful contribution to this thread, Zach > > > could be very much automatic, just as Zach pointed out. An automatic > > /me loves the Spanish pronunciation of my (nick)name :-) Nah, blame me, for letting búbúlle pamper me with allowing me to pronounce his nickname as I wish ;) I assure you Spain has nothing to do with this :) -- ·''`. It's never too late to have a happy childhood : :' : `. `' `- Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NEW processing
Clint Adams wrote: > No, not more power to them. Conflating unnecessary tasks with privileged > roles is a bad idea. 100% agreed. -- ·''`. It's never too late to have a happy childhood : :' : `. `' `- Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I hereby resign as secretary
I absolutely What Kale said: /me too! Kalle Kivimaa wrote: > Manoj Srivastava writes: > > As to the people who emailed me that they are putting together a > > petition for the DAM to have me removed from the project, > > WHAT?? Could these people step up please and tell us WHY you consider > expelling Manoj from Debian would be a good thing? Feel free to use > -private if you think your reasonings shouldn't be public. > > Thanks Manoj for your work as the Secretary. I've not always agreed > with your decisions but I acknowledge that the post is a difficult one > and you've been committed to do the best job you can - and it has been > a very good job on the whole. -- ·''`.There's no arguing with Nature. : :' :Promises comfort fools. `. `'All work and no play, makes Jack a dull boy. `- Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: "Debian women may leave due to 'sexist' post"
Peter Tuhársky wrote: > Saying that, I'm glad there are women in Debian community, although I > don't fully understand their effort to maintain a special "Debian > Women" community. There is no "Debian Men" community I know of, and Oh! Wait! What about the men! I think you lack some perspective. Debian Men is the *default* When I joined Debian there were 4 female developers, only one was active., out of 1000 male ones. I felt weird becasue I was so much into this 'boy thing'. By creating Debian Women, we are sending out the message that it is definitely ok to be a female and and a geek, and we aim to create visibility for those female users, developers, contributors... so that they can serve as 'role models', or inspiration for other males and females who might be inteested in getting involved. Regarding my personal webpage, it has nothing to do with Debian, so it is offtopic in this discussion. The fact that I am a radical feminist has nothing to do with Debian Women. I learned about feminism a lot after Debian Women was created. My sorry attemps to get approval of our project from male developers can be found in the list archives and proof I had no idea what I was doing. When I reflected upon my need for approval, I also found my answer to the one million dollars question: Why are there so few women in computing? For me, the patriachy is an acceptable answer. Find your own, it is an enlightment trip, and you do not need to aome to my same answer. You are right, the images there might be offensive to you as a man. I am not sorry for that, sorry :) Debian Women is a group of women, not a group of feminists. Some of us are feminists, well, get over it. If any part of my answer sounds harsh, I am sorry, I didn't intend to. I did my best over a sloppy ssh connection to be clear, but unapologetic. I blame the patriarchy for this. -- ·''`.There's no arguing with Nature. : :' :Promises comfort fools. `. `'All work and no play, makes Jack a dull boy. `- Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: "Debian women may leave due to 'sexist' post"
Всеволод Величко wrote: > That message has been carbon-copied to debian-devel list. I'm not > reading debian-women list. You think, this discussion should take > place in d-d? I'm not sure. That was a honest mistake. I did not realize I was replying to a cross-post. > If you're sending something to d-d, be ready that d-d have other > rules, than d-w. As in we will not tolerate your girly crap here? I dare you to threaten me or any other female again! -- ·''`.There's no arguing with Nature. : :' :Promises comfort fools. `. `'All work and no play, makes Jack a dull boy. `- Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#438885: Mass bug filling: must use invoke-rc.d
Package: general Severity: serious As of Debian Policy Manual version 3.7.2, the use of invoke-rc.d to run init.d scripts has been made mandatory. Earlier, its use was strongly recommended. In most cases the fix should be simple, replace this: /etc/init.d/package with this: if which invoke-rc.d >/dev/null 2>&1; then invoke-rc.d package else /etc/init.d/package fi On May 13 and 14, I checked all packages in Debian sid, and found that your package needs to be changed because of this policy change. This bug is part of a mass-filing to get all such bugs fixed. (See discussion starting at [1].) [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/05/msg00577.html -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com
Re: Bug#438885: Mass bug filling: must use invoke-rc.d
Felipe Sateler wrote: > But oldstable has 2.86.ds1-1. I thought that only direct upgrades were > supported. I guess the conditional is indeed redundant. It may be, but keeping backwards compatibility in this case can't hurt much. Although I'd like to hear other opinions on this. -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#441301: ITP: url2file -- wget a URL into a file an print the filename
Loic Dachary wrote: > Description : wget a URL into a file an print the filename ~~ and? >url2file - wget a URL into a file an print the filename Same here. >The file of the file in the cache directory is printed on the ~~~ filename? -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Giving away most of my packages
Dear developers, I am sadly (but happily) overwhelmed by work and RL and the time I can dedicate to Debian has been drastically reduced. So I am giving away my packages to sweet, loving and caring maintainers: - xdigger: http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xdigger.html No upstream, but easy to maintain. Games team candidate? - jail: http://packages.qa.debian.org/j/jail.html There are much better tools out there, maybe RFRemoval? - imsniff: http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/imsniff.html Upstream is a bit unresponsive, otherwise easy to maintain. I still need to issue requests to be removed from the uploaders field for: amaya, fkiss, gnomekiss, libirman, lirc, mencal, perforate, and piuparts. If you are in any of these teams, please remove my name from the uploaders field. I will still keep subtitleeditor, http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/subtitleeditor.html as I still care enough for it, but a Co-maintainer would be *very* wellcome. Heck, if you really fancy it, I will give it to you This is not a "Good bye Debian" email. I still plan to continue working on QA and transitions listed at http://wiki.debian.org/AmayaRodrigo, but at a slower pace, and in a "I got a spare afternoon, let's send some patches" fashion, but don't expect that to happen very often. Regarding my sponsorees, I am also "orphaning" them. If you use and like any of the packages I sponsor, feel free to offer yourself for sponsorship, (see: http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=amaya for details), but please keep me in the loop. I am specially worried about twiki, with a security bug (CVE-2007-5193, #444982) and a ready fix, that I simpply don't have the time to review for upload (It took me already too long to find time to write this email). Remember not to feed the trolls while I am away, and expect me back with full force by the beginning of next year :) Happy hacking! -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Giving away most of my packages
A brief update: Amaya wrote: > - xdigger: http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xdigger.html > No upstream, but easy to maintain. > Games team candidate? Taken by the games team. > - jail: http://packages.qa.debian.org/j/jail.html > There are much better tools out there, maybe RFRemoval? I will RFR. > - imsniff: http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/imsniff.html > Upstream is a bit unresponsive, otherwise easy to maintain. Will be orphaned. > I will still keep subtitleeditor, > http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/subtitleeditor.html as I still care > enough for it, but a Co-maintainer would be *very* wellcome. Heck, if > you really fancy it, I will give it to you Taken. -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: reporting BTS spam easily from Mutt
Hamish Moffatt wrote: > In case it's useful to anyone, here's a quick hack I put together for > easy BTS spam reporting from mutt. That is incredibly useful, is tehre any similar tool to report spam delivered through the Debian Mailing Lists? Sorry if this has been answered before, I am just starting to keep up with mail backlog. Thanks, Hamish! -- ·''`. Cheap beer & cheap chocolate - The real deal : :' : `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
