Re: Debian conference in the US?
Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The citizens of the US have a little more power than the rest of the world, > in that you have a *vote* as to who gets to fuck the rest of the > world. Well, didn't work that way last time... -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - I am the rocks. Looking for a developer in St. Louis? http://web.springies.com/~ats/ Death row is entirely too small and empty.
Re: Bug#196800: flex mustn't assume stdint.h is available on allplatforms
Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > SuSv3 aka POSIX was released one year ago. Huh? POSIX is the same as SUSv3 now? They used to be separate. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - I am the rocks. Looking for a developer in St. Louis? http://web.springies.com/~ats/ Ten animals I slam in a net
Re: how to package Haskell libraries
Isaac Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How would Debian prefer to see this? Some people tell me that it'll > probably be too slow to build the packages on the end-user's system > (as is done for elisp), That's also done with Common Lisp, and I don't think it's too slow (as an end-user). -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - I am the rocks. Looking for a developer in St. Louis? http://web.springies.com/~ats/ Put your cat in box, add postage and mark "Schr*edinger."
Re: CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge
Bas Zoetekouw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So am I. To bad it isn't lpr compatible at all (at least not > lprng-lpr). Well, lprng isn't lpr... but if there are clienty things you want, you could probably use lprng's clients with CUPS's lpr server. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - I am the rocks. He's so sadistic, he put quicksand in the litter box.
Re: How to install X-Chat in five hours (or more)
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Oh, look, someone else who CCs when it is obvious the person they're > responding to is participating right here. Maybe you should stop whining and just set the Mail-Copies-To header, which is generally respected by posters on Debian lists? -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - I am the rocks. What's all this I hear about "endangered feces"?
Re: How to install X-Chat in five hours (or more)
Richard Braakman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Heh, teach yourself to type /Va* and you're going to get BURNED one day. > (Your co-sysadmin finds a rootkit on another machine and stores it > in /Various Dangerous Programs/ for later examination...) And gee, your shell beeps, completes up to /Various\ , and doesn't go further. How is this going to get you burned? -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - I am the rocks. Your rifle won't leave a wet spot on the bed after you use it.
Re: About NM and Next Release
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > No. But you said that the opposite is the wrong reason. If we like > Debian it is a bad reason to want to contribute. No. I think Andrew meant that liking Debian or wanting to contribute is a bad reason to join Debian. He wants people to contribute, since you don't need join Debian to do it. I don't know if he really sees any reason as being a good one to try to join Debian. I'd think the right to vote on policy that would affect things that contributers are doing would be a good reason, but nobody ever seems to mention that. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - I am the rocks. Timothy: What happens when you feed a smurf after midnight.
Re: what about ip's
"David Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > my first assumption is that charter sells their users email addresses. does > anyone on this list know how an unused email address that has never been > used can have spam without the ip giving the address out? Is it a fairly simple username, like dsmith? Those can get caught by spammers blindly sending to common usernames. Now, if the username were something like hkja89ZJNhks8S12 and got spammed, someone in the organization is probably selling usernames, but it could just be a rogue employee. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - I am the rocks. Women were made to be loved, not to be understood.
Re: nethack popularity contest - number_pad?
Thomas Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > number_pad is your friend. It's far easier to remember the keys. I used to use the number pad, but then I got a laptop... -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - I am the rocks. Let me be one of the first to welcome you back...
Re: 0.01-6 > 0.1-3 ?????
Federico Di Gregorio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > that's right. dpkg compares numbers ... numerically. so 0.01 and 0.1 are > equivalent. then -6 > -3. What exactly do you mean by numerically? Is 0.1 == 0.01 == 0.1 == 1.0 == 10 == 10? What should be watched out for? -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! The star of riches is shining upon you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 0.01-6 > 0.1-3 ?????
Agustin Martin Domingo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > point in versions is not decimal separator, but major or minor version > separator. So > > 0.1 == 0.01 == 0.1 > > all means > > major version=0 > first minor version=1 Many developers don't consider those identical, though. I wonder if fields should be zero-padded to equal width before comparison? So comparing 0.01 and 0.1, you'd zero-pad 0.1 -> 0.10, and get the right comparison. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! A crucifix? Oy vey, have you got the wrong vampire! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#156503: microsoft changed its policy, msttcorefonts broken
Jan Nieuwenhuizen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If you write a Free Software application that needs to display text, > but you omit a good font, it's useless. So all text editors should come with their own font?! -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! The best way to love your neighbor is when your boyfriend is away.
Re: Why do system users have shells?
"H. S. Teoh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Now that somebody mentioned it -- will /bin/true work, or is that a > wishlist feature? Is it in /etc/shells? Here's what you do: ln -s /bin/false /usr/local/bin/ftponly echo /usr/local/bin/ftponly >> /etc/shells -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! "I'm your boyfriend now, Nancy! Bwhahahahahahha!" - Freddy Kruger
Re: Bug#171208: ITP: tlpr -- a Trivial LPR client
Rene Engelhard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Sory, but why not simply use "cat foo | lpr" ? Or "rlpr", if you don't want to set up a printcap. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! Something came out of my.BUTT!
Re: Bug#171208: ITP: tlpr -- a Trivial LPR client
Rene Engelhard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > cat foo | lpr does not work for raw data (e.g. PS files for PS > printers). Huh? It works fine, depending on how you set up your filters. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! Parents have eyes in the backs of their heads.
Re: i386 compatibility & libstdc++
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Realistically, are there any C++ apps on the planet that wouldn't choke > an i386 to death anyway? groff -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - I am the rocks. Looking for a developer in St. Louis? http://web.springies.com/~ats/ I do not fear computers. I fear the lack of them.
Re: Debian conference in the US?
Glenn McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 22 May 2003 12:20:39 -0500 > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Let me clue all of you in: anyone who takes a stand and tries >> to hurt the US economy, I see as a taking action inimical to me, and >> my loved ones, and I do *NOT* see that as friendly action. > > What you say is just bad, bad, bad, and you should be ashamed. Did you forget to take logic while you were in school? > In the least it implies you personally are only friendly with people > when you are taking their money. In other words, you dont have any true > friends. No, Manoj isn't implying that at all. He said that if an individual is taking a stand to hurt the US economy, he views that as an unfriendly action. He can certainly be friends with people who aren't giving him money, but if someone has the intent "I'm going to take certain actions to hurt their economy and hope they learn a lesson" that's not friendly. > On the Australia-US trade deal thats being worked on. > If it worked out to be better for Australia than for the US, would you > bear a grudge against all individual Australians ? See your below comment on separation between between governments and individuals. If the trade deal turned out to help Australia more than it helped the US, who cares... we're still doing better. If the trade deal _hurt_ the US while helping Australia, I'd be far more likely to bear a grudge against the US politicians who negotiated it, because it's pretty likely that they screwed the rest of us for something that helped them out. > There is a layer of abstraction been government and people, any action > by or against your government is not necesarily an action from or against > individual US'ians. Yes, and that's what you seem to be missing. The US economy is huge mass of individuals. Hurting the economy will certainly hurt individual US'ians more than it will hurt anyone involved in government (because those in government are usually independantly wealthy). So people intent on harming the US economy are intent individuals. This seems much the same rationale as spam fighters... trying to hurt innocents in hopes they'll rise up and convince their ISP to take some action. Except with spam all that's lost is some mail... taking deliberate actions to hurt an economy can destroy families. > I hope you can see the obvious flaws in your comments, and can learn > from your mistakes. Ditto. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - I am the rocks. Looking for a developer in St. Louis? http://web.springies.com/~ats/ "I am Tigger of Borg! HooHooHoo...Assimilatin's what Tiggers do best!"
Re: Proposing task-debian
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In many Linux distributions, Emacs is a high-level installation task, like > "Games" or "Mail". This makes sense to the average user, who usually either > wants Emacs or does not. For a little amplification, while "Emacs as an editor" may not make much sense as a task (only a couple packages), a task which installed most Emacs add-ons might be useful. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! I used to have a drinking problem. Now I love the stuff.
Re: Bug#95430 acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#95430: ash: word-splitting changes break shell scripts)
Zack Weinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Uh, no it can't. I'm talking about self-contained shell scripts, > not functions. IFS does not inherit through the environment. > Self-contained scripts can count on its being set to > "" when execution begins. Says who? SUS says: IFS Input field separators : a string treated as a list of characters that is used for field splitting and to split lines into words with the read command. See Field Splitting . If IFS is not set, the shell behaves as if the value of IFS were the space, tab and newline characters. Implementations may ignore the value of IFS in the environment at the time sh is invoked, treating IFS as if it were not set. That seems to indicate that sh is not required to ignore IFS in the environment. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! In specifications, Murphy's Law supersedes Ohm's.
Re: Bug#95430 acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#95430: ash: word-splitting changes break shell scripts)
Zack Weinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Irrelevant. Look up IFS in a bugtraq archive. > I shan't do your homework for you. You're reporting a bug. The standards say this isn't a requirement or a problem. Prove your case or at least take it to private email. There are billions and billions of ways you can tweak environment variables to break shell scripts that don't bother. What's your point? If I can tweak IFS to change parsing, I can also tweak PATH. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! Please take note:
Re: Bug#95430 acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#95430: ash: word-splitting changes break shell scripts)
Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There are billions and billions of ways you can tweak environment > variables to break shell scripts that don't bother. What's your > point? If I can tweak IFS to change parsing, I can also tweak PATH. So far, all I've come up with are programs passing unvalidated and untrusted info to scripts... but there was a mention of Solaris sh no longer accepting IFS from scripts. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! To be or not to be, that is the bottom line.
Re: Runlevel for powersaving
Arthur Korn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Looking at apmd(8), it seems "change power" would fit, but > unfortunately it doesn't tell you wheter AC was plugged in or > out. Your script could query `apm | grep on-line` or something. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! According to the obituary notices, a mean and unimportant person never dies.
Re: why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !
"John H. Robinson, IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 04:02:33PM -0400, Jacob Kuntz wrote: > > Closed-source software is even more of a pity. DJB's license (or lack there > > of) makes it impossible to distribute binaries that aren't compiled by DJB > > himself. > > i certainly hope you speak out of ignorance, i would hate to think that > you are deliberately trying to mislead us [...] > You may distribute a precompiled package if > >o installing your package produces exactly the same files, in > exactly the same locations, that a user would obtain by > installing one of my packages listed above; If you compile it yourself, the files will not be exactly the same. I'm not sure if timestamps are embedded in binary files on Linux, but even if not, the odds that a different compiler will produce the exact same files as his are unlikely. It means you have to link against the exact same libraries as djb. So, "makes it impossible to distribute binaries that aren't compiled by DJB himself" sounds pretty accurate to me. It may not be the original intent of the license, but what it looks like. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! Stellar rays prove fibbing never pays. Embezzlement is another matter.
Re: why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !
"John H. Robinson, IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > it says ``that a user would obtain by installing'' Sorry, I thought he was referring to binary packages above. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! Well, Jim, I'm not much of an actor either.
Re: Why why why!!???
Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Wow, that's the most creative spam I've ever read..it almost was worth the > effort :) Except there was really nothing there! -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! If you don't care where you are, then you ain't lost.
Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore
Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 02:46:15PM +0200, Arthur Korn wrote: > ? I was referring to this: And Arthur was referring to the fact that you can set LANG=hr_HR and LC_COLLATE=C and get the old behavior. > It acts as if the interpunction doesn't exist, which is just plain wrong! > And it's not happening on potato. Whee, I switched to Debian in time to catch the fury here, too. Basically, the situation is: Take it up with the glibc developers or set LC_COLLATE. They aren't listening and nobody else can do anything. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! Skiers go down fast.
Re: how can Euro symbol be displayed under X [4.0.3]?
"John H. Robinson, IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > it depends upon the font that you use. the latin-9 font contains the > sideways quake two symbol, ¤, (some fonts will show that as a o with > four little tick marks on it) Your Content-Type was " Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 so _everyone_ should be showing it as the "o with four little tick marks". (What a weird character... it has to have a name, right?) -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! Oxymoron: Intense Apathy.
Re: how can Euro symbol be displayed under X [4.0.3]?
Gordon Sadler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Not everyone. It's a square here, on the console. Just like good ol' > pong. Right, because you're using a limited mailer which can't show different charsets. 8^) (A rather decent reason for preferring a "graphical" mailer over mutt, though I don't know whether most of them can display different charsets correctly, or if they're limited to the one in the font you specified.) -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! Freedom of the press is for those who happen to own one.
Re: how can Euro symbol be displayed under X [4.0.3]?
David Starner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Mutt is pretty good about displaying different charsets, maybe even > better than some of the "graphical" mailers. Cool! Useful thing to know. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! The less time planning, the more time programming.
Re: how can Euro symbol be displayed under X [4.0.3]?
"John H. Robinson, IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > nope. your content-type was the same; and i opened it up in two > different rxvt's one (the smaller one) spawned like this: You're using an iso8859-15 font to display iso8859-1 messages. Don't you see how that's wrong? -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! Graduate life: It's not just a job. It's an indenture.
Re: how can Euro symbol be displayed under X [4.0.3]?
Wolfgang Sourdeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > My 0.02 ¤ (2 ¢) If you're going to try to use the euro, you should be posting as "iso-8859-15", not "iso-8859-1". -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! Today you'll start getting heavy metal radio on your dentures.
Re: how can Euro symbol be displayed under X [4.0.3]?
Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I guess that the o with four little tick marks must be some sort of > currency symbol in some country... Iirc, it's not a currency symbol anywhere... it's just sort of a generic symbol. Yes, so says Bringhurst... it's a generic symbol to provide a placeholder in a font where a real currency symbol can be placed. > However, xemacs-mule doesn't seem to support anything greater then > ISO-8859-9, so it looks like I am out of luck here. This is a good place for the Ob"Emacs 21 will support it" -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! Sign in restroom: Hortas - Please don't eat the urinals!
Re: Student Looking for A Final Year Project
Glenn McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I hate CVS, i thought everyone else did as well and people only used it > because of a lack of alternatives. http://subversion.tigris.org -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! Silverman's Law: If Murphy's Law can go wrong, it will.
Re: Student Looking for A Final Year Project
Glenn McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [subversion] > It looks like a candidate to be packaged as well. Maybe not yet, though ISTR there's a Debian Developer who follows subversion. Right now, its under extreme development and just started self-hosting, so people interested in it probably want to keep up-to-date by compiling it locally. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! Oh, Aunty Em, it's so good to be home!
Re: 'getenv' C function
Pedro Zorzenon Neto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The author intends to incorporate my patch in the upstream, I'd like to > know if "getenv" will work in DOS. It's ANSI C. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! Get forgiveness now -- tomorrow you may no longer feel guilty.
Re: Preview of new Ghostscript packages - please test
Torsten Landschoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > - Adding the wrappers to gs-common (ps2pdf etc.) Is that a good idea? I know the scripts have changed between GNU and Aladdin GS, to make things somewhat more secure. You naturally won't be able to use the Aladdin versions in gs-common, but that means that you will lose features. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! Give your very best today. Heaven knows it's little enough.
Re: Preview of new Ghostscript packages - please test
Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is that a good idea? I know the scripts have changed between GNU and > Aladdin GS, to make things somewhat more secure. You naturally won't > be able to use the Aladdin versions in gs-common, but that means that > you will lose features. A bit more data... I'm not sure there are any differences between GNU GS 6.51 and AFPL 7.00 in this area, but there are changes in CVS HEAD, so when that releases, there will be differences. Two I know of are pdfopt and pdf2ps. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! A wise man once said ..."I don't know."
Re: [RFC] Developer documentation packages.
David Starner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yep. Instead of all these packages with ps and pdf files, whereever possible, > why don't we just have the LaTeX/Texinfo/Tex/Docbook/whatever source, with > instructions on how to build ps/pdf in README.Debian? Better yet, standardize a script used by all these packages, which knows how to translate various sources, so you can do doc-gen ebook-foo pdf and have it come out right? Or maybe hook it into debconf so on installation, the format you wish is autogenerated.... -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! Money is better than poverty, if only for financial reasons.
Re: pci.ids
Remco van de Meent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There is a maintainer, Martin Mares, listed at the top of those files. > Don't know what the best place for the file is, I'm trying to keep it > uptodate in the pciutils package (also by Martin). Probably the kernel-source? -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! Amnesia used to be my favorite word, but then I forgot it.
Re: /bin/ls is impure!
Norbert Veber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > --> Now run ls. Wow! That's really, really cool! It's a purity package problem. It's messing around with stty settings Script started on Wed Sep 19 12:24:51 2001 [12:24:51] wesley:~ $ stty -a speed 38400 baud; rows 25; columns 80; line = 0; [...] [12:24:53] wesley:~ $ purity nerd The East Campus Nerd Test [...] [12:24:58] wesley:~ $ sty ty -a speed 38400 baud; rows 63753; columns 49151; line = 0; [...] Anything which tries to play with the screen afterwards will probably use lots of ram, after trying to allocate a REALLY BIG SCREEN. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! If you don't do the things that are not worth doing, who will?
Re: /bin/ls is impure!
Philippe Troin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Get:1 http://debian.commerceflow.com woody/main purity 1-9 [25.7kB] Looks like it's only the purity in unstable (1-11). In fact, it looks like it's the termios patch put in purity 1-10 that is munging stty settings. (Aaron, if you haven't been following this thread on debian-devel, check the bug listing, since I just reported it.) Time to check the source -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! "I am BugsBunny of Borg. Eh... What's up, collective?"
Re: /bin/ls is impure!
Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Looks like it's only the purity in unstable (1-11). In fact, it looks > like it's the termios patch put in purity 1-10 that is munging stty > settings. Yep, a typo... it wanted to query the settings, but actually set them. Oops. Patch will go into BTS as soon as I get a response telling me what bug number my report was. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! A mind is a wonderful thing to waste.
Re: default font resolution in X Windows
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Suarez Soto) writes: > So, am I the only one that even in 17" monitors uses 75dpi fonts? Are you using 75dpi fonts on a 75dpi monitor, or just using 75dpi fonts because you like them? -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! Cheer Up! Things are getting worse at a slower rate.
Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)
Sam Couter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Because the files accessed from within the chroot once it's broken are the > SAME FILES as on the real system. We're not discussing running two binds on a system, one in a chroot and one not. (Although I think I understand your concern now.) We're discussing running exactly one bind in a chroot, so that if bind is exploited, the damage is minimized. Then, for ease of maintenance, we're discussing symlinking /etc/bind to /wherever/chroot/etc/bind, so you can edit the configuration files as if they were in etc. We're on the same page so far, right? Your concern seems to be that an attacker would break the bind within the chroot and edit the configuration files. If the files were copied from a file outside the chroot (and thus out of their realm to modify), you think this would add security, right? It would add as much security to have but one copy of those files modifiable only by root, read-only by anyone else (ie, the bind process in the chroot). Then, unless the attacker managed to get root from bind, they can't modify the files... and if they could get root from bind, they can break the chroot anyway. (man 2 chroot) -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! If *I* had a hammer, there'd be no more folk singers.
Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)
Peter Palfrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > AFAIK mount -o ro --bind /etc/ foo/etc does not mount readonly. So > there would be write access to the root partition in the chroot. If they are not writable by the user of the chroot process, that isn't a problem. If the attacker gets root, the user can break the chroot. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! Anyone stupid enough to be caught by the police is probably guilty.
Re: gpg -e errors - All garbled output
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I don't know if my locale is causing it or what. The problem is that as > soon as I try to gpg -e to edit a key I get the following junk. [23:24:22] wesley:~ $ gpg --help|grep -e -e -e, --encryptencrypt data -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! BE ALOOF! (There has been a recent population explosion of lerts.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sid: libc6-2.2.5-4 kills vmware workstation 3.0
Donald J Bindner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > VMware Workstation PANIC: > AIO: NOT_IMPLEMENTED F(566):1081 > This is on a relatively current Woody system, and VMWare was > running fine last week. Is this the same issue, and does that > leave me in the "sorry" category? Yes, you're screwed. If you have useful info in those saved sessions, downgrade libc and unsuspend... or just remove the std file and fsck/scandisk/whatever when/if you upgrade to 3.x. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! If wishes were horses, then beggars would be thieves. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) and /usr/share/common-licenses
Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I find it ... foolish to declare a license to be free IFF some clauses of > the license are not exercised. Using this language, any proprietary > license becomes free as long as none of the proprietary sections are > inforced by the author... > > The license is a complete text. It is either free or it isn't. Selective > editing creates a new license that may or may not actually exist. No, that's not the case. Any options are chosen by the author at the time of licensing the work. It's not a matter of enforcement, it's a matter of choosing what variant of the license to use on a specific piece of documentation. This may mean that piece of documentation using the FDL with certain options may not be free, and that a piece of documentation using the FDL with different options may be free. Think of the FDL as a meta-license, and specific instances as used in packages as the real license. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! Art is the tree of life. Science is the tree of death. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Python module for debconf
Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The byte compilation should be done when the package is built, not > at runtime, not at install time. So you're saying that the maintainer should need to either create separate packages for a given add-on for all current (and future) Emacs flavors, or that they should include the byte-code for all current (and future) Emacs flavors within the one package, even though for most people that will be useless data? -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! Suicide is simply a case of mistaken identity. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Python module for debconf
Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is debian for maintainers or users? Users are well-served by not requiring a maintainer to release new byte-compiled versions of a package for a new flavor of Emacs. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! Stealing a rhinoceros should not be attempted lightly. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Python module for debconf
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Adding them to build-essential would take a policy amendment...but now that > we've reached a consensus on debian-devel, they can be Essential: yes > instead. That's as it should be, anyway. Now to move at least emacs from /usr to / so that it can replace init. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! Wedding rings are the world's smallest handcuffs. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
