Re: attention to bug 321435

2005-09-30 Thread Adam Thornton


On Sep 30, 2005, at 1:46 AM, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:



Please see http://bugs.debian.org/321435.

This bug is that gs-gpl fails to work on s390.  I recall just seeing
a principal s390 developers say he was no longer doing the Debian s390
port.  I don't know what effect this has on the bug.

This bug is blocking a number of packages, at the very least, ifhp and
scummvm.  Something needs to happen...

I'm not sure what.


I wrote to Gerhard Tonn indicating my willingness to be a maintainer  
of last resort if no one more suitable for the s390 port stepped  
forward, but I did not receive a reply and I do not know whether  
someone else has been found.  It's not clear to me that the buildd  
maintainer's duties exactly are, or, critically, how much time per  
week it takes.


I guess that the thing to do is to build gs-gpl with debugging turned  
on, as well as scummvm, and try to find out in what function things  
are rupturing.  I'm going to hazard a guess that it's an assumption  
about signed/unsigned characters, but that's purely a guess based on  
what my gut feeling for most of the portability bugs I've seen on  
s390 are about.  I myself am not likely to have time to do this  
before the middle of next week.


Adam


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Re: Future of the s390 port

2009-08-31 Thread Adam Thornton


On Aug 31, 2009, at 12:01 PM, Michael Casadevall wrote:


I think a bigger question is where do you find hardware where you can
get remote root on; I'm not very familiar with s390 or mainframes in
general, but its not a piece of hardware one individual person would
own. I'm aware of the Hercules emulator, but that doesn't seem like it
would be useful for general development of a port.


The Debian project has access to a couple of machines hosted by OSDL,  
or at least it used to (I haven't actually checked the status  
recently).  These are older machines (z800?) but still 64-bit.


The death of Flex-ES and the lack of a P/390, Integrated Server, or  
even H50/H70 equivalent for zSeries has left a hole in the market for  
lower-end developers (not just in the Debian or even Linux space).   
Hercules is actually pretty useful except in that it doesn't emulate a  
lot of modern peripheral hardware, particularly the QDIO OSA  
interfaces and the Fibre Channel interfaces which are a fact of life  
on modern z boxes.


Adam


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Re: Future of the s390 port

2009-08-31 Thread Adam Thornton


On Aug 31, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Bastian Blank wrote:



The first problem is the worst.  Currently only Frans Pop and I do  
work
on it.  Frans only does the Debian-Installer part and I simply have  
not
enough time to do the rest.  The s390 architecture is quite  
different to

anything else, so it needs several specialized packages to work[1] and
they need lasting attention.  So if anyone wants to help (especially
Debian developers) for the continuity of this port please speak up.


I'd like to help; my time has become much more limited than during  
previous release cycles, though, and my access to modern zSeries  
hardware has also become more limited.


I can test installation, but on nothing anywhere near a full  
complement of device types, and I can make recommendations and  
amendments to a fair number of the sysconfig shell scripts and the  
shell scripts in the d-i packages.  And given the pressures of my day  
job I can't really guarantee that I will be able to respond to any  
specific item in a timely fashion.


I wish I could do more.

Adam


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Re: Future of the s390 port

2009-09-03 Thread Adam Thornton


On Sep 3, 2009, at 4:32 AM, Martin Grimm wrote:


I'm aware of popcon and as much as I'd appreciate it to see our  
systems

counted there this will not happen because these are mainly production
systems behind firewalls or in internal networks with no internet  
access

and I've generally a bad feeling when thinking of software that's
talking to outside systems when there is sensitive data on my  
server ;-)


I'm running about 20 Debian guests on z, but like Martin's, mine  
cannot actually get to the outside world directly, and that is not  
going to change.


Apt-proxy is a wonderful thing, though.

Adam


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