Re: Example for use of dh_strip --dbg-package=... and CDBS?

2005-03-02 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
fltk1.1 does this.  Here's its rules file:

#!/usr/bin/make -f
include /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/buildcore.mk
include /usr/share/cdbs/1/class/autotools.mk
include /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/debhelper.mk

# The original definition also includes -fno-exceptions, which we
# might as well punt so that throwing exceptions from callbacks
# actually works.  We also punt -Wall, which CDBS puts in CFLAGS.
FLTK_OPTIM="$(CFLAGS) -Wunused -Wconversion -fPIC -D_REENTRANT"

DEB_CONFIGURE_EXTRA_FLAGS  = --enable-shared --enable-threads --enable-xft 
--without-links
DEB_CONFIGURE_SCRIPT_ENV   =
DEB_MAKE_INVOKE= make OPTIM=$(FLTK_OPTIM)
DEB_MAKE_CHECK_TARGET  =
DEB_INSTALL_CHANGELOGS_ALL = CHANGES
DEB_INSTALL_DOCS_ALL   = CREDITS README
DEB_DH_MAKESHLIBS_ARGS = -V
DEB_DH_SHLIBDEPS_ARGS  = -l debian/libfltk1.1c102/usr/lib -Lfltk1.1c102
DEB_DH_STRIP_ARGS  = --dbg-package=libfltk1.1c102

clean::
rm -rf autom4te.cache

build/fltk1.1-doc::
cd documentation && make fltk.ps && make fltk.pdf

binary-predeb/fluid:: binary-fixup/libfltk1.1c102

[Likewise for ncbi-tools6, but its rules file is much hairier.]

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Re: StrongARM tactics

2005-12-07 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> +pcsx: i386# i386 
> assembly

AFAICT, this is only because its Linux/Makefile forces CPU to ix86
unconditionally.

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Re: StrongARM tactics

2005-12-08 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Ryan Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> PCSX 1.6 does not compile with GCC4 when the ix86 flag is not specified, even 
> on i386. I don't know about amd64, but my other partially-ASM (using NASM 
> like PCSX) package (libopenspc) will not build on amd64, so I'm assuming that 
> the same is true here -- I'll change it if someone can confirm that it will 
> build and work.

It built on my AMD64 system with a crude patch (attached, along with
the resulting log) that drops the CPU setting unconditionally, but I
haven't actually tested the result -- I built it mainly because I'm a
packrat. ;-)

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diff -u pcsx-1.6df/debian/control pcsx-1.6df/debian/control
--- pcsx-1.6df/debian/control
+++ pcsx-1.6df/debian/control
@@ -6,7 +6,7 @@
 Standards-Version: 3.6.2
 
 Package: pcsx
-Architecture: i386
+Architecture: any
 Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}
 Recommends: psemu-sound, psemu-input, psemu-drive, psemu-video
 Description: Sony PlayStation emulator
diff -u pcsx-1.6df/debian/changelog pcsx-1.6df/debian/changelog
--- pcsx-1.6df/debian/changelog
+++ pcsx-1.6df/debian/changelog
@@ -1,3 +1,12 @@
+pcsx (1.6df-1.0) unstable; urgency=low
+
+  * NMU of sorts (though no actual upload intended.)
+  * debian/control: Change architecture from i386 to any.
+  * Linux/Makefile: don't force CPU to ix86 (should be done conditionally
+in debian/rules).
+
+ -- Aaron M. Ucko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Mon, 28 Nov 2005 10:42:36 -0500
+
 pcsx (1.6df-1) unstable; urgency=low
 
   * Initial release Closes: #137355
only in patch2:
unchanged:
--- pcsx-1.6df.orig/Linux/Makefile
+++ pcsx-1.6df/Linux/Makefile
@@ -7,7 +7,7 @@
 
 all: pcsx
 
-CPU = ix86
+# CPU = ix86
 
 OPTIMIZE = -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -finline-functions -ffast-math
 FLAGS = -D__LINUX__ -DPCSX_VERSION=\"${VERSION}\" -DPACKAGE=\"pcsx\"
dpkg-buildpackage: source package is pcsx
dpkg-buildpackage: source version is 1.6df-1.0
dpkg-buildpackage: source changed by Aaron M. Ucko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture amd64
 fakeroot debian/rules clean
dh_testdir
# Add here commands to configure the package.
cd /home/amu/src/pcsx/pcsx-1.6df/Linux && ./configure --bindir=/usr/games
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking for working aclocal... found
checking for working autoconf... found
checking for working automake... found
checking for working autoheader... found
checking for working makeinfo... found
checking for gcc... gcc
checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of executables... 
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed
checking for strip... strip
checking for rm... rm
checking for rmdir... rmdir
checking gtk+2... checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config
checking for gtk+-2.0 > 2.0.0... yes
checking GTK_CFLAGS... -DXTHREADS -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 
-I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 
-I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 
-I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include  
checking GTK_LIBS... -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm 
-lpangoxft-1.0 -lpangox-1.0 -lpangoft2-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lgobject-2.0 
-lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lglib-2.0  
configure: creating ./config.status
config.status: creating Makefile.cfg
touch configure-stamp
dh_testdir
dh_testroot
rm -f build-stamp configure-stamp
# Add here commands to clean up after the build process.
cd /home/amu/src/pcsx/pcsx-1.6df/Linux && /usr/bin/make clean
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/amu/src/pcsx/pcsx-1.6df/Linux'
rm -f Makefile.cfg
rm -f *.o ../*.o ..//*.o pcsx
rm -f config.*
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/amu/src/pcsx/pcsx-1.6df/Linux'
dh_clean 
 dpkg-source -i -b pcsx-1.6df
dpkg-source: building pcsx using existing pcsx_1.6df.orig.tar.gz
dpkg-source: building pcsx in pcsx_1.6df-1.0.diff.gz
dpkg-source: building pcsx in pcsx_1.6df-1.0.dsc
 debian/rules build
dh_testdir
# Add here commands to configure the package.
cd /home/amu/src/pcsx/pcsx-1.6df/Linux && ./configure --bindir=/usr/games
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking for working aclocal... found
checking for working autoconf... found
checking for working automake... found
checking for working autoheader... found
checking for working makeinfo... found
checking for gcc... gcc
checking for C compiler default outpu

Re: c2a transition: libraries still needing transition

2005-12-21 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>   aqsis

It would be nice if whoever uploads this could also address #324025
(64-bit FTBFS, patch available).

> It would be very nice to finish these off.  Once all these libraries are
> transitioned, the remaining C++ programs using the old ABI can be queued for
> automatic binNMUs by the release team, so these are the only source uploads
> still needed just for the transition (not including uploads to fix FTBFSes,
> RC bugs, etc.)

It's not quite that simple, as some applications will also need
sourceful uploads because tight dependencies between binary-all and
binary-arch packages yielded broken binNMUs:

  cinepaint
  kgeography
  pingus

(maybe others, those are just the ones I've run into that haven't been
fixed yet).  Surprisingly, only pingus has a bug open about the matter
(#342231).

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Re: gconf transition

2006-01-06 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
"Alejandro Bonilla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2: error while loading shared
> libraries: libpangocairo-1.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such
> file or dir
> gconf-sanity-check-2 did not pass, logging back out

Fun! :-/

> Which package gets the bug report?

Looks like libgconf2-4, for lacking proper dependencies (on
libpango1.0-0, at the very least).

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Re: Heimdal and openssh

2006-01-11 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Juha Jäykkä <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>>   * Interoperate with ssh-krb5 << 3.8.1p1-1 servers, which used a
>>>   slightly
>>> different version of the gssapi authentication method (thanks, Aaron
>>> M. Ucko; closes: #328388).
>
>> Perhaps this is THE patch which makes them all work together while
>> openssh folks claim they don't? This is a side-issue, but it would be
>> nice to know.
>
> That may very well be the case, yeah.  I've not done a lot of
> experimentation.

As I recall, that patch (which I lifted from ssh-krb5) just addresses
interoperation with old (3.5-era) versions of the "unofficial" patch,
which is otherwise stabler than the upstream-blessed gssapi support.

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Bug#351276: ITP: python-dsv -- Python module for delimiter-separated-value files

2006-02-03 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Aaron M. Ucko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: python-dsv
  Version : 1.4.0
  Upstream Author : Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/python-dsv/
* License : standard CNRI Python license
  Description : Python module for delimiter-separated-value files

 Python-DSV is an alternative to Python's standard csv module, with
 somewhat different usage and optional support for wxWidgets-mediated
 user interaction in the course of format autodetection.  Like the
 standard module, it supports a wide range of delimiters and handles
 both import and export.

I'm packaging this in the course of reviving bitpim's ITP (#265585).
I will probably issue a single binary package, for Python 2.3, because
that's all that python-wxgtk2.x supports anyway.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing'), (500, 'stable'), (1, 
'sarge-unsupported')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.15
Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US (charmap=ISO-8859-1)


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Re: ./configure in debian/rules

2006-02-24 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Were can I read up on how and why I should do this?  AFAIR, the policy

/usr/share/doc/autotools-dev/README.Debian.gz has advice on how to run
configure scripts sanely.

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Re: AT&T Korn Shell

2006-02-28 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
"Josh Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Seems these libraries are statically linked. It may be worth to think
> about providing shared library versions since there are many
> applications which can use libshell and libast. For example AT&T
> claims a 30%+ performance improvement for perl applications if sfio
> (provided by libast) is used instead of stdio.

There are sfio-dev and sfio2000 packages, though nothing in the
archive appears to be built against them at present.

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Re: Adding dependencies to e2fsprogs: libdevmapperr, libselinux and libsepoll

2006-03-09 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Theodore Ts'o <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Actually, because of the e2fsck-static package, e2fsprogs has to have
> a build-depends on libselinux.  There doesn't seem to be a way to say,
> "except on non-Linux platforms" for a build-depends as far as I know,
> unfortunately.  Any suggested solutions?

I believe

Build-Depends: dpkg-dev (>= 1.13.12), libselinux-dev [linux-any], ...

is supposed to work nowadays.

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Re: Bug#292572: ITP: praat -- program for speech analysis and synthesis

2005-01-27 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
181 U+026F  # É
182 U+FFFD  # ï
183 U+FFFD  # ï
184 U+0278  # É
185 U+01A5  # Æ
186 U+0253  # É
187 U+032F  # Ì
188 U+0330  # Ì
189 U+0290  # Ê
190 U+1D0A  # á
191 U+0153  # Å
192 U+02A2  # Ê
193 U+0318  # Ì
194 U+026C  # É
195 U+028C  # Êinduction  [ÉnËdÊkÊÉn]
196 U+0263  # É
197 U+FFFD  # ï
198 U+029D  # Ê
199 U+02CC  # Ëoligarchic  [ËÉlÉËgÉËkÉk]
200 U+02C8  # Ëreversionary  [rÉËvÉËÊnÉrÉ]
201 U+026B  # É
202 U+200A  # â
203 U+031F  # Ì
204 U+2197  # â
205 U+2198  # â
206 U+025C  # É
207 U+02A0  # Ê
208 U+0324  # Ì
209 U+033C  # Ì
210 U+0281  # Ê
211 U+027B  # É
212 U+025A  # É
213 U+02DE  # Ë
214 U+0295  # Ê
215 U+0284  # Ê
216 U+21BF  # â
217 U+21C3  # â
218 U+030B  # Ì
219 U+0301  # Ì
220 U+0304  # Ì
221 U+0300  # Ì
222 U+030F  # Ì
223 U+0302  # Ì
224 U+030C  # Ì
225 U+0306  # Ì
226 U+0303  # Ì
227 U+028D  # Ê
228 U+027A  # É
229 U+0270  # É
230 U+0302  # Ì
231 U+0265  # É
232 U+039B  # Î
233 U+0302  # Ì
234 U+0256  # É
235 U+0257  # É
236 U+02E0  # Ë
237 U+02EC  # Ë
238 U+0267  # É
239 U+025F  # É
240 U+0127  # Ä
241 U+026D  # É
242 U+0334  # Ì
243 U+030C  # Ì
244 U+030C  # Ì
245 U+0299  # Ê
246 U+0268  # É
247 U+0273  # É
248 U+0272  # É
249 U+02D0  # Ëshootingrange  [ËÊuËtÉÅreÉndÊ]
250 U+0266  # É
251 U+0199  # Æ
252 U+0291  # Ê
253 U+029B  # Ê
254     U+0255  # É
255 U+0288  # Ê

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Re: Another load of typos

2005-03-25 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Florian Zumbiehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> FLTK

Please consider this ambiguous (like FAQ), as upstream favors the
pronunciation "fulltick" (and makes a point of noting so on the main
http://www.fltk.org/ page because a lot of users nevertheless do spell
it out).

Thanks.

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Re: Bug#303609: ITP: libdata-dumper-perl -- stringified perl data structures, suitable for both printing and eval

2005-04-07 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Um, as far as I can tell, this module is already present in perl-base,
and even at the correct version:

$ dlocate -S /usr/lib/perl/*/Data/Dumper.pm
perl-base: /usr/lib/perl/5.8.4/Data/Dumper.pm
$ fgrep VERSION /usr/lib/perl/5.8.4/Data/Dumper.pm
$VERSION = '2.121';

As such, I see no reason to package it separately.

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Re: gluck available again / filesystem shaked

2005-04-07 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Just one question, how do we access the box if the .ssh directory has been
> disabled ? 

AFAICT, it still consults LDAP (db.d.o) for authorized keys.

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Re: namespace conflict != package Conflict?

2005-06-10 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Sebastian Kuzminsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The cogito /usr/bin/git is a tiny little helper script hardly worth its
> inode, but it's in the upstream package and I dont want to remove it or
> rename it.

As others have asked, why not?  Does anything actually rely on the
script existing by that name?

At any rate, if you're absolutely dead set on keeping it, I suppose
you could divert any preexisting instance of /usr/bin/git to, say,
/usr/bin/git.not-cogito, and then have the script fall back to it when
not called with one of the handful of supported first arguments:

#!/bin/bash -norc
cmd=git-$1-script
if command -v "$cmd" >/dev/null 2>&1; then
shift
exec "$cmd" "$@"
else
exec -a "$0" /usr/bin/git.not-cogito "$@"
fi

(You'd likewise need to divert /usr/share/man/man1/git.1.gz, and
perhaps add a pointer to the diverted manpage in your version.)

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Re: wiki.debian.net brokenness?

2005-06-13 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Andres Salomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I've discovered that I can no longer log into wiki.debian.net.  When
> visiting pages, it informs me that I'm AnonymousUser; when I try to edit a
> page, it tells me that the web page doesn't not allow anonymous editing. 
> However, it doesn't provide a link to log in (or maybe I'm just missing
> the link?).  This makes it rather difficult to actually update wikis.

AFAICT, you just need to follow the link labeled AnonymousUser and
enter some other username...

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Re: Running x86-64 debian inside i386 pbuilder on AMD64

2006-08-24 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Sander Marechal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Quick question: Do I only need the AMD64 linux-image package, or also
> the linux-restricted-modules package?

You need corresponding versions of whichever modules package(s) you
currently have installed.

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Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-08-24 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Sander Marechal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I don't think Debian should do that, but perhaps the process to install
> them after the fact could be easier for people who are not full blown
> Linux admins?

Are you aware of module-assistant?

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Re: Is lack of UTF support an RC bug?

2006-09-07 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Marcin Owsiany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> It doesn't matter for ekg2, which will stay in experimental for quite a
> while I'm afraid, but it is important for at least two other of my
> packages (which are in etch) which don't support UTF-8 at all. And I'm
> reasonably sure they are not the only packages in etch which don't
> support UTF.

Right; for instance, as noted in #229702/#236214, libfltk1.1 and its
~30 reverse-dependencies have the same limitation, which upstream
won't address because doing so would break the ABI.

> Don't get me wrong, I'm not against UTF-8, but just dropping everything
> that doesn't support it, without a former warning, sounds ridiculous.

Agreed.

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Re: gcc-4.2 build-depends?

2006-10-20 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
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> here. Also, the same solution should be used (eg. split the
> package).

The gcc-4.x packages are already set up to support building the Java
and Ada compilers (and associated libraries) separately from the rest
of GCC; however, there is no need to do so for 4.2 while it is still
only in experimental.

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Re: [OT] Looking for a program which generates binary formats decoders from a high-level description

2006-12-27 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
BitPim's protogen.py seems similar to what you're looking for; its
canonical use is for making it easier to communicate with mobile
phones (particularly BREW-based GSM models), but its packet
description language should be rich enough to handle at least some of
the examples you give as is.

The resulting decoders (and encoders, should you have need of them)
are in Python.

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Re: [OT] Looking for a program which generates binary formats decoders from a high-level description

2006-12-28 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Stephane Bortzmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>  a message of 0 lines which said:
^
It wasn't quite that short. ;-)

> It seems so, thanks, but it is hard to say because the file in
> http://www.bitpim.org/pyxr/c/projects/bitpim/src/protogen.py.html
> seems quite underdocumented. Any other documents you know?

http://bitpim.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bitpim/trunk/bitpim/dev-doc/packetdescription.txt?revision=3493&view=markup

For further examples, you can also look at any of bitpim's *.p files
(under src/phones in the source tree, and installed in
/usr/share/bitpim/code/phones).

You should also be able to ask questions on the bitpim-devel mailing
list; only subscribers may post, but volume's pretty low.

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Re: GFDL question

2006-03-27 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 06:24:50PM +0100, Arthur de Jong wrote:
>> On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 14:06 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
>> > The resolution which passed excludes documentation with front cover
>> > texts.  Read it.
>> 
>> I re-read it, and it states:
>> | This means that works that don't include any Invariant Sections, Cover
>^
>> | Texts, Acknowledgements, and Dedications (or that do, but permission
> ^
>> | to remove them is explicitly granted), are suitable for the main
>> | component of our distribution.
>
> That includes both front- and back-cover texts.

Perhaps Thomas meant "excludes from main" rather than "excludes from
eviction."

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Re: First AMD64 Binary Uploaded

2006-03-27 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Yee-ha!  This makes a wonderful (if moderately belated) first birthday
present for my em64t workstation. :-)

One question, though: what's the contact address for the new buildd's
administrators?  I tried [EMAIL PROTECTED] (to call #359023 to their
attention), but it bounces.

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Re: First AMD64 Binary Uploaded

2006-03-27 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Kurt Roeckx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I've requested the binNMU to be done, it should probably get
> build tomorrow somewhere.

Thanks.

> For now I suggest you contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

OK, thanks; I considered that, but wasn't sure it was focused enough.
(Granted, -devel isn't that focused either, but it is more
developer-oriented.)

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Re: Bug#360163: ITP: libannexlib-ocaml -- Library of miscellaneous OCaml code

2006-03-31 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Ewan Mellor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Do I need to do anything to the ITP to reflect this, or should I
> just close it any start again?

I'd say it's sufficient, and not even strictly necessary, to retitle
the bug.

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Re: amd64 uploads

2006-04-07 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Aurelien Jarno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> kid3
>
> This one dep-wait on the wrong package.

Yeah, the dep-wait should be dropped to reflect the recent upload.

Speaking of dep-wait, there appear to be a few bugs whose fixes would
probably clear out most of
http://buildd.debian.org/stats/?arch=amd64&state=Dep-Wait :

atlas3 bug #351646 (needs tweaking for new make)
gdal bug #360389 (bad cast, fix pending since Tuesday)
ruby1.9 bug #321316 (needs less optimization or [AFAICT] new upstream)
wxwidgets2.6 bug #350695 (FTBFS with new make, fix "pending" for months)
wxwindows2.4 bug #350696 (likewise)

A lot of the others simply need to desupport old versions of Python.

> I also noticed cpuburn has not been rebuilt, probably because it is
> listed i386 only in Package-Arch-Specific, whereas the amd64 team was
> probably using another version of this file.

Likewise for mindi and mondo, at least.

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Re: id gives conflicting results

2006-05-19 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I wonder if the weird AFS PAG hack is corrupting the process group list in
> some way.  It would be the first time I'd heard of that problem if so, but

That's quite possible, as I've observed similar behavior on my amd64
machine (but neglected to report it previously).

To wit, my regular user account is a member of group adm, and id(1)
confirms so, but the kernel reports EPERM on log files that only group
adm can read when I have a PAG. :-/

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Re: small quirks setting up a cross-compile toolchain

2006-07-27 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Tyler MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>   Has anybody else run into this? Is there something I can do that's
> cleaner and closer to The Debian Way than manually making symlinks?

Install the Debian toolchain-source package and go from there.

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Re: Version woes (packaging SWT milestones)

2005-01-21 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Shaun Jackman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> it must start with 3.0.x. Perhaps 3.0.3.1M4? Ugly. Any thoughts?

Post-sarge, I believe 3.1~m4 should work.  For now, I'd probably call
it 3.0+3.1m4, which is slightly less ugly IMO than having dots
throughout.  (I've used a similar notation for FLTK prereleases.)

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Re: Bug#194515: ITP: debdivert -- Debian packaging aid to create patch packages

2003-05-24 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I still don't get why you wouldn't simply generate a modified version
> and install it _instead_ of the original package, unless foo also
> include a switch-debdivert-foo package that enables to choose to
> switch to officila package faster than 'dpkg -i official.deb'

I can kind of see this.  If your modified version has the same name as
the original, you might end up accidentally upgrading to a version
without the desired changes.  On the other hand, if it has a different
name, it cannot be a full substitute because dpkg still doesn't
support versioned provides.

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Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-24 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I don't assume that everyone agrees, just the 49.X% that voted for him.

This figure is not as meaningful as it might seem; we still use a
non-preferential voting system, in which votes for non-mainstream
candidates are effectively wasted. :-/

> The most amusing thing was that no USian even bothered to ask me
> whether I am implementing such a boycot myself, they just made their
> assumptions and jumped into the flame-war.

Toward the beginning of the thread, I specifically asked who would
actually be unwilling to show up, as opposed to merely knowing other
developers with that stance.

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Re: Orphaning my packages

2003-05-27 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Another point of note is that nascent packagers are encouraged to adopt
> other software that's already in the archive before packaging new
> items. In this case, he is merely following that advice.

Granted.  OTOH, applications may be a better place to start, inasmuch
as they are easier to deal with in many respects and accidentally
breaking them may not necessarily affect anything else (though it
obviously depends on the program in question).

>  - David Nusinow

Any relation to the Nusinoviches?

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Re: buildd failure

2003-06-03 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Attila SZALAY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> # out of date on hppa: libzorpll, libzorpll-dev (from 2.0.5.2-1)

Hm, http://buildd.debian.org/build.php?arch=&pkg=libzorpll seems to
indicate that the hppa autobuilder never attempted 2.0.26.4-1 for some
reason.  Try building it yourself in paer's sid chroot?

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Re: aptitude borked [was: Re: Fun with python-apt]

2003-06-20 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
"David A. Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> guarantee it will work because it seems as though apt thinks
> apt-listchanges is still installed.

This is a matter of configuration files; try purging apt-listchanges,
and if that doesn't work remove /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20listchanges
yourself.

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Re: package descriptions dummy/transitional

2003-06-23 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Is there a way I can get a list of those "you can remove it safely after
> upgrade (if no others depend on it)" packages?

deborphan --guess-dummy --guess-only

tries to do this, and automatically filters out packages that you
can't yet remove.

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Re: kernel 2.5.73+, fakeroot, debuild - a small problem

2003-06-24 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Marek Habersack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>   2. Modify fakeroot to check the kernel version, the type of fs on which it
>  is currently working and have it issue a sysctl to enable
>  restricted_chown. It looks better than #1 but it might incurr

Er, is this even possible as an ordinary user?

>   5. Influence the XFS/kernel maintainers to change the default value of
>  restrict_chown to enabled.

I agree that this is the best solution.

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Re: Accepted java-gnome 0.8.0cvs20030627-1 (source)

2003-06-30 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
If you're going to leave out any architecture-specific packages from
your uploads, please still include at least the arch-all packages,
since the autobuilders skip them.

Thanks.

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Re: Debootstrap, Sid, and console-tools-libs

2003-07-02 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
"Matthew P. McGuire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>   E: Couldn't download console-tools-libs

You need a newer version of debootstrap; it looks like 0.1.17.29
corrects console-tools-libs to libconsole.

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problem setting up interlibrary dependencies

2003-07-12 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
I'm running into difficulties getting vibrant6 [1] to comply with the
new policy requiring full inter-library dependencies.  The source of
the complication is that two of the libraries come in OpenGL and
non-OpenGL variants, but certain intervening libraries are
OpenGL-agnostic and therefore come in only one variant.

Since OpenGL is a pretty hefty dependency, I'd like to avoid it if
possible, and not have the intermediate libraries indirectly require
it; on the other hand, the GL-enabled variant of the higher-level
library (ncbicn3d) specifically needs the GL-enabled variant of the
lower-level library (vibrant) in order to work properly.  I would also
like for packages that request linkage against plain vibrant not to
end up depending on the GL variant, even if built on systems with the
GL variant installed.  (On the other hand, packages that specifically
try to link against the GL variant should get it)

I haven't quite been able to come up with a reasonable arrangement
that satisfies all of these constraints.  The closest I've come up
with so far falls apart the moment ldconfig runs:

BASELINE:
libvibrant-nogl.so.6.1.: real file, soname libvibrant.so.6
libvibrant-nogl.so.6 -> libvibrant-nogl.so.6.1.
[libvibrant-nogl.so -> libvibrant-nogl.so.6.1.]
[libvibrant.so -> libvibrant-nogl.so]

WITHOUT libvibrant6-gl:
libvibrant.so.6 -> libvibrant-nogl.so.6

WITH libvibrant6-gl:
libvibrantOGL.so.6.1.: real file, soname libvibrantOGL.so.6
libvibrantOGL.so.6 -> libvibrantOGL.so.6.1.
[libvibrantOGL.so -> libvibrantOGL.so.6.1.]
libvibrant.so.6 -> libvibrantOGL.so.6 (clobbered by ldconfig :-/)

I could perhaps kludge around this by having libvibrant6-gl also
contain a dummy library with a soname of libvibrant.so.6 that pulls in
libvibrantOGL.so.6 and sorts after libvibrant-nogl.so.6.1., but
that would be gross, and lead to odd-looking ldd output.

Any suggestions?  Should I just punt and force everyone to use the
OpenGL version?  (That would certainly be simplest, but I'd really
prefer to avoid the dependency bloat if I can.)

[1] I am simultaneously renaming the package to libvibrant6, so please
refrain from commenting on its archaic name. ;-)

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Re: problem setting up interlibrary dependencies

2003-07-13 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> So to restate, you have two libraries which export similar ABIs, but not
> identical; the GL-enabled version of the library exports additional
> entry points which are only of use to a subset of callers.  You want to
> supply distinct .so links for each library, so that at build-time a
> program can clearly specify which variant it wishes to link against; and
> you don't want to drop the non-GL variant, because OpenGL is a hefty
> dependency for those who don't need it.

Right.  I would moreover like for the GL variant to supersede the
non-GL variant when both are installed, since that's what the
GL-neutral higher-level libraries will be linking against.

The way this worked up to now was that the only library dependencies
were on libc, with both variants residing in a single package that did
not depend on libGL(U); applications using the higher-level libraries
would have to link explicitly either against the non-GL variant or
against the GL variant and libGL(U).

> 1) Divide the library into two parts: one which provides the non-GL
> functions, and one which provides *only* the GL functions.  This

This would definitely be a pain, given that the two variants are built
from the same sources, just with different #defines.

> 2) Continue to ship complete versions of each library, tagging each with
> a unique soname and keeping their associated filenames entirely
> separate.  If someone wants the non-GL version, they link with
> -lvibrant; if they want the OpenGL-enabled version, they link with
> -lvibrant-gl.  Disadvantage: if you have a higher-level library that
> would use the non-GL version of the library, and an application that
> would use both this higher-level library and libvibrant-gl, you would
> have both libvibrant and libvibrant-gl loaded into memory, which
> probably won't work too well unless you implement symbol versioning as
> well.

Right, though I think I want the *opposite* of what symbol versioning
would give me: if the GL variant shows up at runtime in any fashion,
the process should not use any symbols from the non-GL variant, even
if it pulls it in indirectly.

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Re: Using reportbug with Gnus

2003-07-22 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Marcus Frings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> | Symbol's function definition is void: gnus-agent-possibly-save-gcc

Confirmed; FWIW, I have reportbug 2.20, emacs21 21.3-1, and gnus 5.10.2-3.

> Okay, I read man reportbug, I read /usr/share/doc/reportbug/ and I looked
> in /usr/share/reportbug/ where `gnus-agent-possibly-save-gcc' could have
> been used but nowhere I found this option to be used/set.

The call seems to be from within Gnus, which I guess doesn't quite
manage to load properly:

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function gnus-agent-possibly-save-gcc)
  gnus-agent-possibly-save-gcc()
  run-hooks(message-header-hook)
  message-send-mail(nil)
  message-send-via-mail(nil)
  message-send(nil)
  message-send-and-exit(nil)
  call-interactively(message-send-and-exit)

Adding (load "gnus-load" t) to the top of
/usr/share/reportbug/reportbug.el fixes it, at least on my system.

Incidentally, you might also be interested in debbugs-el, which
provides a nice report-debian-bug command.

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Re: Using reportbug with Gnus

2003-07-24 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> That would be `M-x debian-bug'.  :-)

Oops, so it would; I crossed it with report-emacs-bug.

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Re: Future releases of Debian

2003-07-25 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Nick Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>   The reason I havn't offered them for general Debian machines is that there
> are already (generally better) machines available on better connections.

Last I checked, there weren't any public mips or mipsel machines.

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Re: Future releases of Debian

2003-07-25 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Karsten Merker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> There is an official mips system available to all developers (casals.d.o).

Oh, cool, I must have missed that announcement.

> If you need stuff tested on a mipsel system in the meantime, please send me
> an email and I will try to get account on another mipsel system for you.

Nah, no rush.  Thanks, though (and thanks to Noah for actually making
it happen ;-)).

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Re: debconf 2005 in Vienna, Austria

2003-07-29 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Joshua Kwan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Feh, we need one in the States... I'm totally raring to go to a debconf
> in the states, but there is a severe lack of $ (and parental permission)
> with regards to going to one in europe :(

Don't worry; as far as I know, the proposed conference in DC next
spring I asked about a few weeks ago is still planned.

Meanwhile, I doubt I'd make it to anything in Vienna, but I'm fine
with people meeting there, or anywhere else they can find critical
mass.

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Re: package name change (moviemate -> mediamate)

2003-07-30 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> you should Conflict, Replace, and provide MovieMate.  This will ensure a 
> smooth transition.  You instead (may) want to upload a package called 
> moviemate which is a dummy package that depends on MediaMate.

I'd say "as well as" rather than "instead," though of course you'll
need to limit the conflict to pre-transition versions so that the
dummy package is actually installable

Otherwise, yeah, just make the change as smooth and transparent as you
can.

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Re: package name change (moviemate -> mediamate)

2003-07-30 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
"Jamin W. Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I was thinking about the dummy package approach, but then the dummy
> package would just hang around indefinitely, right?

Well, until the user removes it; the description usually hints at
that, and deborphan will also optionally point out dummy packages you
can safely remove.  At any rate, having a dummy package installed
isn't a big deal; they aren't exactly huge.

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Re: Bug#205471: [rene@debian.org: Bug#205471: devscripts: running debuild could lead to deleting _all_ backup dirs/files on the system]

2003-08-20 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I really like this idea, thank you!  I will accept directory names

Thanks. :-)

> matching the regexp /^$package(-.*)?$/ - does that seem reasonable?

Yep, though I might change the * to a +.

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Re: [rene@debian.org: Bug#205471: devscripts: running debuild could lead to deleting _all_ backup dirs/files on the system]

2003-08-20 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I do have the following four cases:
> 
> 
> 
> 

It should definitely allow package-upstreamver, since that's more or
less canonical.  However, generalizing a bit and simply checking that
the name of the directory starts with the name of the source package
would allow your other cases while still avoiding things like $HOME
(unless your username happens to match the package name, but that's
probably too much of a corner case to worry about).

BTW, no need to Cc: me.  (No big deal, though.)

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Re: Accepted fltk 1.0.11-11.1 (i386 source all)

2003-08-23 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Congratulations, you've just broken binary compatibility by
(implicitly) rebuilding with G++ 3.3.  I'm preparing a new NMU that
switches back to G++ 2.95 (except on IA64, which needs 2.95, and HPPA,
which needs 3.0).

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Re: Accepted fltk 1.0.11-11.1 (i386 source all)

2003-08-23 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> So what you were saying is, the package could not be built from source
> correctly anyway, and he only fixed one of the two bugs?

Right.  (Emphasis on "correctly" -- the build did nominally succeed.)

> That's an independant bug; why was it not filed when g++ 3 became the
> default?

Good question.  Lameness?

At any rate, I have uploaded an -11.2 which should (I think...)
restore sanity and keep -11.1 from making it out of incoming.

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Re: where to install additional kernel modules?

2003-08-24 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Where then should comedi install itself? comedi drivers are for data
> acquisition cards.

/lib/modules/VERSION/misc?

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Re: where to install additional kernel modules?

2003-08-24 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Christoph Hellwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> no.  that's wrong for 2.4+ kernels.

Interesting, as it seems to be the status quo; I have a bunch of
modules in /lib/modules/2.4.21/misc (from four different modules
packages produced via make-kpkg), which incidentally all seem to load
fine.

No need to Cc me, BTW.

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Bug#208313: RFA: alsa-xmms -- ALSA 0.9 output plugin for XMMS

2003-09-01 Thread Aaron M . Ucko
Package: wnpp
Severity: normal

Since I hardly ever listen to music on my computer these days except
when testing this package, I should probably hand it over to somebody
who uses it more actively.  It's pretty low maintenance(*), so I'm
content to keep it indefinitely; OTOH, that also means that interested
parties need not worry much about load.

I am willing to serve as sponsor for any prospective developer who
wishes to take the package over.

(*) I've had to upload a new (Debian or upstream) version roughly once
every three weeks on average, and the changes between versions have
generally been fairly small.

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Re: Where are we now? (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-03 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Or, alternatively, this was the only crappy NMU that was noticed while
> quite a few others were made against ancient packages with inactive
> maintainers who didn't notice or didn't care.  I'm not terribly
> interested in going through all the NMUs done and attempting to prove
> this but I find it more likely than the possibility that only one poor
> NMU was done during that period.

No, you're not alone; I got to clean up after an overly hasty NMU of
fltk 1.0.x that switched to G++ 3.x without adding c102.  (I must
admit, however, the package was asking for trouble by neither forcing
the right [older] compiler version nor even carrying a warning about
the situation in the BTS.)  Fortunately, I was able to react in time
to keep that NMU from advancing beyond incoming.

Nevertheless, I feel that the 0-day NMU period generally went quite
well.

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Re: Who needs libcurl3?

2005-07-25 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Domenico Andreoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> unfortunately heimdal bug #316980 makes curl FTBS :(

:-/ Can you use MIT krb5 instead?

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Re: MIT krb5 vs. Heimdal for curl's GSSAPI support (Re: Who needs libcurl3?)

2005-07-26 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Domenico Andreoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> i'm not a kerberos guru, i never used it and probably i will never be
> interested in it. i added this package only after a debian user asked
> for GSSAPI support in curl (FYI bug #241553).

Got it. :-)

> anybody knows if curl will modify its behaviour switching to MIT krb5?

It oughtn't, though it looks like you need to edit debian/rules in
addition to debian/control:

diff -u curl-7.14.0/debian/control curl-7.14.0/debian/control
--- curl-7.14.0/debian/control
+++ curl-7.14.0/debian/control
@@ -3,7 +3,7 @@
 Priority: optional
 Maintainer: Domenico Andreoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Uploaders: Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
-Build-Depends: debhelper (>> 3.0.0), autotools-dev, binutils (>= 2.14.90.0.7), 
libssl-dev, zlib1g-dev, stunnel, heimdal-dev [!hurd-i386], libidn11-dev, 
groff-base, libdb4.2-dev
+Build-Depends: debhelper (>> 3.0.0), autotools-dev, binutils (>= 2.14.90.0.7), 
libssl-dev, zlib1g-dev, stunnel, libkrb5-dev [!hurd-i386], libidn11-dev, 
groff-base, libdb4.2-dev
 Standards-Version: 3.6.1
 
 Package: curl
diff -u curl-7.14.0/debian/rules curl-7.14.0/debian/rules
--- curl-7.14.0/debian/rules
+++ curl-7.14.0/debian/rules
@@ -46,7 +46,7 @@
 
 ifeq (${DO_GSSAPI},yes)
mkdir -p debian/build-gssapi
-   cd debian/build-gssapi && ../../configure ${CONFIGURE_ARGS} 
--with-gssapi-includes=/usr/include --with-gssapi-libs=/usr/lib
+   cd debian/build-gssapi && ../../configure ${CONFIGURE_ARGS} 
--with-gssapi=/usr
 endif

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Re: todos: command not found

2005-11-02 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
João Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Anyone knows what package brings the todos command?

$ apt-file search bin/todos
sysutils: usr/bin/todos

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Re: apt-proxy

2005-11-08 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> However, I prefer the approach over apt-cacher, as the apt-sources
> entries remain independent of the server that will be used to retrieve
> the files.

I originally kept away from apt-cacher for exactly that reason, but it
now (as of version 1.0.6) supports a path_map directive that allows
for symbolic names.

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Re: Possible mass bug filing: missing shared library dependencies

2008-01-18 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> Aaron M. Ucko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>libncbi6-dev
>
> (Just a sample of the -dbg and -dev packages)

This was genuinely buggy (oops), as it ships a couple of utilities
alongside the other content; I've just uploaded a fixed version.

Thanks for bringing it to my attention, Niko!

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Re: Intent to hijack gtkglext

2008-02-18 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
William Pitcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I've already prepared an upload for this. It should hopefully go
> sometime today.

Great; thanks for taking it off my DDPO page. ;-)

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Re: Looking for co-maintainer for mercurial

2008-02-25 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
[migrating to -curiosa]

Julian Andres Klode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> BTW, I think that hg is now the only VCS package which is not maintained in 
> its
> own VCS format. (or are there other packages, too?)

$ apt-cache showsrc rcs | grep Vcs
Vcs-Browser: http://git.debian.org/?p=users/rfrancoise/rcs.git
Vcs-Git: git://git.debian.org/git/users/rfrancoise/rcs.git

I can't say I entirely blame its maintainer, though. ;-)

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Re: Bug#467097: ITP: eficas -- ASter Command FIle Editor

2008-02-29 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Sylvestre Ledru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> What do you want me to put as an author ? Electricité de France would be
> OK ?

In that case, I might give both the current legal form and a
clarifying comment:

EDF S.A. (historically named Electricité de France)

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Re: where to register TeX related software with doc-base?

2008-03-23 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Ralf Treinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Sorry if this has been answered before, but looking at section 2.3.3 of
> the doc-base manual (version 0.8.10) I cannot find a section TeX. If
> memory serves me right we used to have a section "tex", at least I
> used to register the docs of some my TeX-related packages there :-)
> Has this section been removed on purpose? If yes, where should
> TeX-related documenation go now?

Good question; with the currently declared hierarchy, I'd suggest
Programming/TeX, but I acknowledge that that's still not entirely
intuitive.

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Re: Default value for CFLAGS/LDFLAGS set by dpkg

2008-03-31 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Kurt Roeckx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I also have to wonder that if we have something like this as default,
> why -Bsymbolic-functions would be a good default, and not -Bsymbolic.

It's also worth noting that the original proposal (
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2007/12/msg00090.html ) gave
testing -Bsymbolic-functions as a potential use case, but *NOT* as an
actual proposed default (at least AFAICT).

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Re: Specification for the 'Bugs' field in 'debian/control'

2008-05-13 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I don't want to just guess based on existing packages and hope I get
> it right. Where can I find the specification for this 'Bugs' field?

deb-control(5):

   Bugs: 
  The url of the bug tracking system for this package. The current
  used   format   is   ://,like deb-
  bugs://bugs.debian.org.

You might also find /usr/share/doc/reportbug/README.developers to be
of interest.

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Re: Correct way to rename a binary package

2008-06-13 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Luca Capello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>   Package: hunchentoot
>   Version: 2.0
>   Provides: cl-hunchentoot [1]
>   Replace: cl-hunchentoot (<< 2.0)
>   Conflicts: cl-hunchentoot (<< 2.0)
>
>   Package: cl-hunchentoot
>   Depends: hunchentoot
>
> Am I correct?

I believe so, modulo one typo (Replace: vs. Replaces:).  Thanks for
taking care to allow a smooth transition.

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Re: Bug#538202: ITP: virt-what -- detect if we are running in a virtual machine

2009-07-23 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Laurent Léonard  writes:

> Description: detect if we are running in a virtual machine

What does it offer over the existing imvirt package?

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Re: Please test eglibc 2.9-23+multiarch.2

2009-08-05 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Bastian Blank  writes:

> What happens if someone install libc-bin without a new libc6 then?

At present, I would expect that to run into file conflicts with
libc6.  In the future, yes, that could be a problem without
appropriate Breaks: or Conflicts: declarations. :-/

One possible workaround could be to follow gtk+-2.0's lead: keep the
actual binaries in the lib package, but place them under /usr/lib and
have the bin package just ship symlinks to them.

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Re: Bug#543150: ITP: pdkim -- cryptographically identify the sender of email

2009-08-22 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Magnus Holmgren  writes:

> * Self-contained, no dependencies (except libc), thanks to code included 
> from the PolarSSL project.

>From a Debian perspective, that's a policy violation, not a feature!
Please arrange for it to use an external PolarSSL installation.

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Re: Bug#556643: ITP: togl -- a Tk OpenGL widget

2009-11-23 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Christophe Trophime  writes:

> The license states that "Modifications to this software may be copyrighted by 
> their authors
> and need not follow the licensing terms described here, provided that
> the new terms are clearly indicated on the first page of each file where
> they apply.". Does it mean the it is not DFSG?

No, it just means that it's not under the GPL or another "copyleft"
license.

http://togl.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/togl/Togl/LICENSE?revision=1.3&view=markup

looks like a typical MIT- (or modern BSD-) style license to me; the
portion you quoted is simply a reminder that it's legal to produce
non-free derived works.

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Re: Bug#412570: ITP: fldigi -- digital modem program for hamradio operators

2007-03-06 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Benjamin Seidenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I would suggest adding a word about the interface - is it a GUI or
> console program?

FLTK is a GUI toolkit.

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Re: [Help] AMD64 specific bug on libblitz0 (#424644)

2007-05-18 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The AMD64 package was builded by a sid autobuilder and if

... last week, with g++-4.1 4.1.2-5, which still had #421790.

> I did understand the thread correctly the problem should
> not happen, right?

It should not happen with the version of g++-4.1 *currently* in sid,
but last week's version is another matter entirely.

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Re: [Help] AMD64 specific bug on libblitz0 (#424644)

2007-05-18 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> That means if I would ask for a binary only upload for AMD64 this bug
> would be fixed?

I believe so.

> How can I ask for this?

Per http://zomers.be/~luk/blog/content/binNMU.html , simply email a
rebuild request to debian-release.

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Is Ron Lee MIA? (was Re: wxwidgets2.8)

2007-05-24 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Bart Martens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Thanks for explaining why filezilla is not yet updated.  If you have the
> time, you might want to offer help to the maintainer of wxwidgets2.6:

Likewise, bitpim has moved to 2.8 upstream, forcing me to hold back or
backport various GUI-related changes on their part, so I'd also
greatly appreciate seeing wxWidgets 2.8 in Debian.

However, I am concerned that its maintainer (Ron Lee) may have gone
altogether MIA, as I see no indication of Debian-related activity on
his part since the end of February; has anyone seen any sign of him
since?

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Re: Is Ron Lee MIA?

2007-05-24 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
"Paul Wise" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I exchanged a couple of emails with him about GPG signing in April.

Good to know; apologies for the false alarm.

> I'm thinking there needs to be a co-maintainence team for wxWidgets,
> and ron seems open to the idea.

Sounds reasonable, though I'm spread too thin already to participate
myself; wxWidgets is rather large and popular for anyone to take on
solo, even with close ties to upstream.

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Re: Bug#480563: Doesn't strip binary NMU version (+b1, +bN etc.) when reporting bugs

2008-07-18 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
"Sandro Tosi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm more inclined to Chris' position (not strip because binNMU can
> introduce bugs not present in previous version) but DDs more
> experienced than me can have a wider view and a different opinion.

I'd tend to agree -- better to err on the side of sending extra
information, which the BTS can presumably at least arrange to ignore
for the time being if fully handling it is too involved.

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Re: Available papersizes vs. default papersizes

2008-08-04 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I would like to solve a long-standing bug and finally make TeX aware of
> libpaper and its system-wide paper size setting.

Thanks; I, for one, would greatly appreciate that.

> However, taking the intersection of paper sizes the different program's
> configuration files accept as default, I end up with a4paper and letter.

AFAICT, those are also the only two sizes that standard locales use,
so I don't think supporting any others is particularly crucial (though
Johannes's suggestions are worth considering if you want to widen the
set slightly).

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Re: Need g++-3.4 package in lenny

2008-08-11 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I need older gcc and g++ as I have a lot of iostream.h in my code. 

If that's the only consideration, you should be able to use 4.1 and
4.2, both of which exist in lenny.  That said, I would echo others'
advice to port to the modern .h-less headers; iostream.h predates the
standard, and has been deprecated for years.

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Re: postinst-has-useless-call-to-ldconfig with a -dev package because of .so development files ?

2008-08-20 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Xavier Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I suppose that dh_makeshlibs adds it because of .a/.so devel files
> being placed in /usr/lib (?)

More likely because of the private shared libraries in
/usr/lib/httrack/libtest.

> Is there a clean way to prevent that ?

dh_makeshlibs -X/usr/lib/httrack/libtest

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Re: Changelog and patche

2008-10-14 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
"Sandro Tosi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> You can ask lintian to be more verbose, adding -v option to its call.

I'd suggest -i, as -v merely traces lintian's activity in more detail.

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Re: (UPDATED) mass bug filing for undefined sn?printf use

2009-01-06 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Kees Cook  writes:

> Aaron M. Ucko 
>ncbi-tools6

Not any more; I uploaded a fixed version (6.1.20080302-4) more than a
week ago, and it's even propagated to lenny because the release team
honored my request to unblock it.  (Thanks!)  I just hadn't previously
bothered replying to the thread, even privately.

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Re: Bug#512834: ITP: ocaml-autoconf -- autoconf macros for OCaml

2009-01-30 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Adeodato Simó  writes:

> Package: autoconf-archive

I agree that that makes sense as a long-term location.  If you're
impatient, perhaps you could (temporarily?) add it to ocaml-tools.

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Re: How to track down the data of package installations

2007-11-03 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
That sounds like the xfwm4/gtk-2.12 deadlock fixed in xfwm4 4.4.1-3,
which evidently hasn't actually made it into testing yet despite its
high urgency. :-/

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Re: Using sgid binaries to defend against LD_PRELOAD/ptrace()

2007-12-08 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Although this is an interesting idea, I have misgivings about running
even temporarily with any sort of extra privileges; C++ executables in
particular may run a fair bit of code from static objects'
constructors before main() ever starts.

I would counter-propose introducing some sort of ELF tag that ld could
set and the kernel and ld.so could check; while this would be more
involved, it would be less hackish and would avoid introducing new
potential vulnerabilities.

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Re: Using sgid binaries to defend against LD_PRELOAD/ptrace()

2007-12-08 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> There are no extra privileges; noptrace is intended to be a group that owns
> no files other than the sgid binaries, can write to none of them, contains
> no users, is unable to ptrace any other processes that it couldn't already,
> and doesn't grant privileges to kill any processes that the user couldn't
> already kill.  It's an extra group membership, but where do you see extra
> privileges here?

The key word is "intended" -- I can easily envision situations in
which group-noptrace-writable files exist, either due to
inconsistent uid/gid mappings across filesystem boundaries or due to
executables accidentally winding up mode 2755.  To be sure, both are
corner cases and arguably operator error, and exploiting them requires
additional bugs, but why take the chance?

Furthermore, it would be nice to be able to create a protected
executable for personal use without having special privileges, or to
be able to mount a filesystem nosuid without losing process
protection.

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Re: Using sgid binaries to defend against LD_PRELOAD/ptrace()

2007-12-10 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Martin Pitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> That would be ideal, of course. Does ELF support anything like that?

AFAICT, it should be possible to use a custom .note.* or .gnu.*
section for such purposes.  I'm not an ELF expert, though.

> P.S. Please honour m-f-t, thanks.

Sorry about that; I read most debian lists via GMANE, and have not yet
worked out how to tweak Gnus to honor it automatically.  I'll try to
keep an eye out, and have taken care to include you directly on this
reply.

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Re: APT: Errors when replacing syslog by syslog-ng

2003-10-13 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> OK, but why are there _two_ identical messages for both klogd and anacron?

Probably once for the real package "sysklogd" and once for the virtual
package "system-log-daemon", since the dependencies explicitly list both.

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Re: XMMS doesn't like itself much...

2003-10-15 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
As the erstwhile alsa-xmms maintainer, I can officially confirm
Cameron's explanation: the latest upstream XMMS version (1.2.8)
incorporates the ALSA plugin itself, so there's no longer any need for
a separate package and you should go ahead and remove the obsolete
alsa-xmms package in favor of the new xmms version.

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Re: XMMS doesn't like itself much...

2003-10-15 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Matt Bonner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Thanks!  I was wondering if it wouldn't have been clearer to say
> that XMMS 1.2.8 Provides alsa-xmms instead of saying alsa-xmms
> Conflicts with xmms.  Any thoughts?

xmms both provides and conflicts (with) alsa-xmms; dselect just only
chooses to mention the latter relationship, at least on that screen.
I agree that its interface could be better, and personally favor
aptitude; however, it doesn't have explicit conflict-resolution
screens at all.

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Re: XMMS doesn't like itself much...

2003-10-15 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Matt Bonner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Amazing.  dselect managed to mention 4 relationships, but not that one.
> "There has to be a beter way..."

Erm, actually, I just took another look at your original mail and saw
the provides line at the bottom.  Still, I would suggest giving
aptitude a try.

BTW, debian-user might have been a more appropriate list.

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Re: Changes in t1lib.

2003-11-05 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
"Artur R. Czechowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I changed the naming scheme. All binary packages contain version in its
> name, i.e.: t1lib-dev is now named t1lib1-dev. Of course old packages are

If you're renaming them anyway, why not follow Policy 8.1 and
s/t1lib/libt1-/ (yielding libt1-1, etc.)?

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Re: Changes in t1lib.

2003-11-06 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
"Artur R. Czechowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> And last but not least: upstream name is t1lib. I do not like to change it
> until it is really needed.

Fair enough; that's probably the best argument.  (I similarly resisted
renaming alsa-xmms to xmms-alsa because I felt it would be better to
keep the upstream name.)

At any rate, only the ftpmasters can raise binding objections; since
they evidently didn't, I will let it drop and wish you (and the
packages) well.

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Re: Victory Abah

2003-11-13 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
"Quinn, Ryan PO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>I am writing you in response to an E-mail I got from a Mr. Victory Abah.
> He said he wants to transfer some money to one of my accounts. I looked him
> up on the web and the only thing I got from him was the request to transfer
> 152 million dollars to your account. Is this a guy ligit, did you pursue
> this?

The offer is almost certainly a scam; please see
<http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/alerts/nigeralrt.htm>.

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Re: Bug#221492: ITP: smile -- [Biology] Find statistically significant patterns in sequences

2003-11-18 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Steffen Moeller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> * URL : http://www.example.org/
> * License : none

*cough*

>   Description : [Biology] Find statistically significant patterns in 
> sequences

This should be an uncapitalized noun phrase: perhaps something like
"tool to infer structured motifs in biological sequences"

>  SMILE inferences structured motifs from multiple DNA or protein
>  sequences.  The extraction is made according to multiple
>  criteria given by the user. Since version 1.4, SMILE accepts extractions
>  on any kind of sequences written on any alphabet, searching for motifs
>  on any alphabet that may even be degenerated.

This could also use some rephrasing: how about

SMILE infers structured motifs from multiple DNA or protein sequences
according to a user-specified set of criteria.  It handles arbitrary
sequence alphabets, which may even be degenerate.

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Re: Debian packages and freedesktop.org (Gnome, KDE, etc) menu entries

2003-12-05 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> doesn't seem to be available in a documented way to people who have
> their own $HOME/.fvwm2rc)

FTR, you can do something like this:

  Read /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook
  
  AddToMenu Applications  "Applications"  Title
  +   "&Debian"   Popup   "/Debian"
  +   ""  Nop
  +   "X&term"Execxterm
  +   "&uxterm"   Execuxterm
  +   "X&calc -rpn"   Execxcalc -rpn
  +   "&Galeon"   Execgaleon

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Re: recovery status update

2003-12-09 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> It makes a lot of sense to restrict auric permanently and have an
> up-to-date mirror for general access purposes.  The issues I can think
> of are:

Although I agree that there is definitely something to be said for
this approach, I would like to note an additional issue with it:

- how to verify that katie will process uploads as expected (I'd been
  running dinstall -n, via dput -D; I suppose it would be possible to
  upload separately to the mirror and test there, but that's awkward.)

> - how to run the DELAYED queue

Extra ftp upload directories?  sftp access to the full queue area?

> - how to give developers the possibility of seeing what's in the queue

I believe http://incoming.debian.org/ is functioning as usual (though
it's a bit hard to tell shortly after a dinstall run ;-) ).  Other
queues, especially queue/new, can also be interesting to inspect, but
mirror delay there would hardly be the end of the world.

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Re: recovery status update

2003-12-09 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 03:37:55PM -0500, Aaron M. Ucko wrote:
>> - how to verify that katie will process uploads as expected (I'd been
>>   running dinstall -n, via dput -D; I suppose it would be possible to
>>   upload separately to the mirror and test there, but that's awkward.)
>
> Seems to me that, with proper checks before upload and a properly done
> upload itself, dinstall -n is superfluous. I can't remember when was the
> last time I got my stuff rejected by e.g. a competing upload, mistaken
> number, or anything like that... And even if something does get rejected,
> you only have to wait around five minutes to find out.

Hm, yeah, I must admit that there's much less call for this now that
automatic feedback occurs every 15 minutes rather than only once a
day.

>> I believe http://incoming.debian.org/ is functioning as usual (though
>> it's a bit hard to tell shortly after a dinstall run ;-) ).

Yep.

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Re: recovery status update

2003-12-09 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Clint Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> - how to run madison and wanna-build

I thought the idea was for the unrestricted mirror to include a
read-only copy of the database madison consults.

wanna-build presumably needs more real-time access, though.

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