Re: wiki.d.o on a git-backed engine

2025-05-24 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi Steve and others with interest in wiki.debian.org!

I wanted to follow up on this thread and advertise that Steve is
running a BoF session about the wiki future at DebConf:
https://debconf25.debconf.org/talks/146-debian-wiki-bof/

I've added some of the people who participated in
https://salsa.debian.org/debian/grow-your-ideas/-/issues/2 and who's
email address I have easily available as CC here, and I've posted a
note about this BoF in that issue. I have also added some research
about potential Markdown+git software in
https://salsa.debian.org/debian/grow-your-ideas/-/issues/2#note_288815.

Maybe you Steve could invite people to the BoF in advance to ensure
there is good attendance at least by the people who have publicly
committed they would be willing to work on upgrading/migrating the
wiki?

I probably won't have bandwidth to help with the software part, but
feel free to add me as co-organizer in the BoF if you want further
help with the BoF session itself.



Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?

2025-05-24 Thread Christian BAYLE

Hello,

if I wanted to rethink the bug tracking
i would seriously consider storing the bug in git

maybe with something like this i just discovered
https://github.com/git-bug/git-bug/tree/master

The big advantage is to unlock the tracking from any forge
and there is some kind of logic to attach bug to branch (i don't know if 
they do this)

But there seems to have at least Bridges with GitHub and GitLab

Regards

Christian


Le 24/05/2025 à 09:51, Pirate Praveen a écrit :
If we're at that point of "considering" having a second system to the 
BTS (or to augment) what would be wrong with using Gitlab issues on 
Salsa?


I've done little research on the matter besides a quick search [1], 
but presumably the BTS software could be modified to build a bridge 
with the Gitlab issues?  Then perhaps maintainers for packages that 
want to opt in could set a flag to have the BTS forward everything 
from BTS to Salsa for their packages.


[1] https://docs.gitlab.com/administration/incoming_email/


Gitlab has a fully email based Service Desk feature as well, which we 
use at work for customer support.




Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?

2025-05-24 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Christian BAYLE (2025-05-24 22:27:41)
> Hello,
> 
> if I wanted to rethink the bug tracking
> i would seriously consider storing the bug in git
> 
> maybe with something like this i just discovered
> https://github.com/git-bug/git-bug/tree/master
> 
> The big advantage is to unlock the tracking from any forge
> and there is some kind of logic to attach bug to branch (i don't know if 
> they do this)
> But there seems to have at least Bridges with GitHub and GitLab

Radicle provides a decentralized layer on top of git:
https://radicle.xyz/

Also adds an issue tracker.

 - Jonas

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Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?

2025-05-24 Thread Bill Allombert
Le Wed, May 21, 2025 at 08:48:00AM -0700, Otto Kekäläinen a écrit :
> Hi!
> 
> I came across this post https://issues.guix.gnu.org/76503 in Guix
> where they discuss how to improve the contributor experience, and in
> particular what technical changes they are doing.
> 
> Guix is interesting as they use a clone of Debbugs as their bug
> tracker at https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=guix.

Yes, but there is issue was not with Debbugs as a bug tracking system,
but Debbugs as a merge-request tracker, something that Debbugs was never
intended to be, and is available in Salsa already. Also they used extra
scripts that were not properly interfaced with the BTS, which leads to
extra problem.

So I do not think this applies to Debian. 

Cheers,
-- 
Bill. 

Imagine a large red swirl here.



Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?

2025-05-24 Thread Pirate Praveen


On 24/05/2025 12:46 am, Mario Limonciello wrote:



On 5/23/25 11:59, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:

On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 10:00:22AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:

On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 10:59:47AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:

On Fri, 23 May 2025 08:57:36 +0100, "Jonathan Dowland"
 wrote:

On Thu May 22, 2025 at 4:56 PM BST, Ahmad Khalifa wrote:
It's alive, not sure if sponsored by Red Hat/Mozilla, but both 
use it

(and Kernel, KDE, the list goes on).


Red Hat have transitioned almost entirely to JIRA.


Thankfully that's not an option for us (not dfsg free).


But it could be an option. If Atlassian offered the Debian project free
(gratis) use of their platform (especially if they handle the
administration), why wouldn't we accept?


Three points:

Having used Jira - I think I'd rather stick hot needles in my eyes.
Atlassian are *EXTREMELY* unlikely to offer anyone gratis use of 
their software.
Do remember why we have Git to replace Bitkeeper - free gifts can get 
withdrawn.


Just my €0.02



If we're at that point of "considering" having a second system to the 
BTS (or to augment) what would be wrong with using Gitlab issues on 
Salsa?


I've done little research on the matter besides a quick search [1], 
but presumably the BTS software could be modified to build a bridge 
with the Gitlab issues?  Then perhaps maintainers for packages that 
want to opt in could set a flag to have the BTS forward everything 
from BTS to Salsa for their packages.


[1] https://docs.gitlab.com/administration/incoming_email/


Gitlab has a fully email based Service Desk feature as well, which we 
use at work for customer support.


https://docs.gitlab.com/user/project/service_desk/using_service_desk/



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Re: Inquiry About Contributing a COM Mouse Driver to the Community

2025-05-24 Thread Bjørn Mork
bjorn@miraculix:~$  apt show inputattach
Package: inputattach
Version: 1:1.8.1-1
Priority: optional
Section: utils
Source: joystick
Maintainer: Stephen Kitt 
Installed-Size: 73.7 kB
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.15), libsystemd0
Homepage: https://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxconsole/
Tag: hardware::input, hardware::input:joystick, hardware::input:keyboard,
 hardware::input:mouse, implemented-in::c, interface::commandline,
 interface::daemon, role::program
Download-Size: 29.1 kB
APT-Sources: http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm/main amd64 Packages
Description: utility to connect serial-attached peripherals to the input 
subsystem
 inputattach connects legacy serial-attached input peripherals to the input
 subsystem: keyboards, mice, joysticks, touch-screens...
 .
 Amongst other things this allows legacy mice to be accessed via the
 /dev/input/mice multiplexer.
 .
 Supported devices include:
  * Serial-attached keyboards including the Apple Newton keyboard, DEC LK201
/ LK401 keyboards, the Stowaway keyboard, Sun type 4 and 5 keyboards,
standard PS/2 keyboards with a serial adapter
  * Serial mice using Genius, Logitech, Microsoft or Mouse Systems protocols
  * Serial-attached touchscreens including those manufactured by 3M, ELO,
Fujitsu, Penmount, Touchright, Touchwindow
  * Serial-attached joysticks including I-Force, SpaceBall, SpaceOrb, Gravis
Stinger, WingMan Warrior
  * The Handykey Twiddler used as a joystick or a chording keyboard