Bug#1015926: ITP: persalys -- GUI for uncertainty treatment and variabilities management

2022-07-24 Thread Pierre Gruet
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Pierre Gruet 
User: debian-scie...@lists.debian.org
Usertags: field..science
X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-scie...@lists.debian.org

* Package name: persalys
  Version : 12.0.1
  Upstream Author : Airbus-EDF-Phimeca
* URL : https://persalys.fr/
* License : LGPL-3+
  Programming Lang: C++
  Description : GUI for uncertainty treatment and variabilities management

Persalys is a graphical user interface for OpenTURNS, dedicated to the
treatment of uncertainty and the management of variabilities. The software is
a tool between the computer simulation, probabilistic analyses and the data
sciences. The interface is available in French or in English.

Persalys allows one to:
- create mathematical models: analytical, coupling with an external model
(finite elements, ...), FMU;
- analyse the variability of one's parameters thanks to many methods and
visualisation tools;
- statistically analyse one's measuring data, infer probability distributions
or create metamodels.

I am an user of Persalys. I plan to maintain in in the Debian-science team.



Server rental (OT)

2022-07-24 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi !
I'm in the process of renting some servers.
Would you suggest I configure my 3 x 2 TV HDD as a RAID group ?
Or would this be somewhat useless because the service provider (who
rents the rack) already does some maintenance and preventive work ?
Thanks
-- 
Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside
-Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development



Re: Server rental (OT)

2022-07-24 Thread Ansgar
On Sun, 2022-07-24 at 04:14 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
wrote:
> I'm in the process of renting some servers.
> Would you suggest I configure my 3 x 2 TV HDD as a RAID group ?

Please contact debian-user@l.d.o for user support. Also describe your
use case as there are no "yes" or "no" answers independent of the use
case.

Ansgar



Re: adduser default for sgid home directories

2022-07-24 Thread RL
Marc Haber  writes:

> ... Here is what the adduser team considers possible
> documentation for this, and we itend to include this in NEWS.Debian as a
> rationale for the change.

As a user who reads NEWS.Debian (via apt-listchanges) i found the text
didnt give me the answers i was looking for. I wanted to know:

- what had changed (and when)
- why has a change been made
- how the change might affects my existing/new systems - eg do i need to
manually do something to adopt it?
- how/if i can customise/revert/use the new changes?

I also found the end of the draft was written almost combatively - as a
user i dont really care about bug reports or whether developers argued
on a mailing list: i just want to know the facts and whether i need to
do anything different as a result. A more neutral phrasing would be
better and would also go out-of-date slower.

Most NEWS files suffer from this to some extent but i was hoping for
something with less about bug reports and more like:


"adduser version 3.122 has changed
pp (DIR_MODE setting in /etc/ ) from aaa to bbb (one of these is
0700 i think, but i couldnt tell which?).

This change has been made to  (prevent files being created with the
wrong permissions? and also for compatibility with other distributions?)

This means ccc (something about the root user's home directory and the user 
account made
by the installer?).

Administrators of existing systems may want to (manually chmod /root and
other home directories under /home to 0700 for consistency with the new
default? )

Administrators who want to have different behavior may (edit /etc/???
and set DIR_MODE back to ? and then restart some service? or do
something else? )"

Happy to help, but i really couldnt follow the draft below very
clearly.

I hope you see this as helpful and not annoying - i would be happy to
help edit/send a patch etc when i understand the change. If you point me
to some better documentation i will be happy to help further



Transition proposal: pkg-config to pkgconf

2022-07-24 Thread Andrej Shadura
Hi,

Following a discussion at DebConf, I’d like to officially propose a transition
from pkg-config to pkgconf in Debian.

pkgconf is a newer, actively maintained implementation of pkg-config that
supports more aspects of the pkg-config file specification and provides a
library interface that applications can use to incorporate intelligent
handling of pkg-config files into themselves (such as build file generators,
IDEs, and compilers).

pkgconf is compatible with pkg-config when it is run as "pkg-config", so it
can completely replace the original implementation.

Debian would benefit from switching to pkgconf by utilising a more complete
implementation of pkg-config that handles aspects of .pc files that pkg-config
does not. For example, Provides rules and Cflags.private rules are supported,
and pkgconf has a better (and less costly) dependency resolver for .pc files.

Having a more complete implementation of the pkg-config implementation can
also help convince upstreams like Postgres and LLVM to switch to using
pkg-config instead of their custom scripts like llvm-config.

pkgconf also supports a feature called personalities [1], that can be used to
implement cross-build support without a wrapper script (as currently
implemented in both pkgconf and pkg-config packages).

pkgconf is already used by other major distributions like Fedora, Gentoo and
Arch, so by doing the switch we’ll be aligning ourselves with other
distributions ([2], [3], [4])

Migration plan
==

I believe that it would in the best interests of Debian to only ship one
pkg-config implementation, so I propose to make pkgconf provide the binary
package pkg-config without a possibility to fall back to the original
implementation. This means that after pkgconf takes over the pkg-config
binary package, all packages depending on pkg-config will be using the pkgconf
implementation without being able to opt out and use the one from
freedesktop.org. While this may seem limiting, it reduces the probability of
some packages staying with the freedesktop.org implementation indefinitely and
missing out on bug fixes or suffering from other differences in implementation
details in future when pkgconf becomes even more widespread.

In preparation for this migration, I ran a rebuild of all packages depending
on pkg-config and found only very few failures [5], which may or may not be
related to the difference in behaviour between pkg-config and pkgconf. I will
perform another rebuild and continue investigating them to provide patches
during the transition period.

[0]: http://pkgconf.org/features.html
[1]: https://manpages.debian.org/unstable/pkgconf/pkgconf-personality.5.en.html
[2]: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/pkgconf_as_system_pkg-config_implementation
[3]: https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/virtual/pkgconfig/dependencies
[4]: https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/pkgconf/
[5]: http://pkgconf-migration.debian.net/failed.html

-- 
Cheers,
  Andrej



Bug#1015971: ITP: pamixer -- pulseaudio command line mixer

2022-07-24 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Tzafrir Cohen 
X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org

* Package name: pamixer
  Version : 1.6
  Upstream Author : Clément Démoulins 
* URL : https://github.com/cdemoulins/pamixer
* License : GPL-3+
  Programming Lang: C++
  Description : pulseaudio command line mixer

pamixer is like amixer but for pulseaudio. It can control the volume
levels of the sinks.

It is used by the SXMO mobile phone interface, an ITP to follow shortly.

It will be packaged in the debian namespace on Salsa:
https://salsa.debian.org/debian/pamixer


Re: adduser default for sgid home directories

2022-07-24 Thread Matt Barry
Hello,

On Sun, 2022-07-24 at 15:09 +0100, RL wrote:
> Marc Haber  writes:
> 
> > ... Here is what the adduser team considers possible
> > documentation for this, and we itend to include this in NEWS.Debian
> > as a
> > rationale for the change.
> 
> As a user who reads NEWS.Debian (via apt-listchanges) i found the
> text
> didnt give me the answers i was looking for. I wanted to know:

It is a bit long, but this discussion has come up a number of times
over the years, so for the people interested in the details, we felt it
was better to have a well-documented rationale.

> 
> - what had changed (and when)

This was the first line of the NEWS.

"The default for DIR_MODE has been set to 0700 for this release.
Detailed explanation follows."

So: there is the change; no need to keep reading unless you're
interested in the details.

> - why has a change been made

I think this is explained in excruciating detail.  The short version
(from NEWS):

"mode 0700 provides both the most secure, unsurprising default"

> - how the change might affects my existing/new systems - eg do i need
> to
> manually do something to adopt it?
> - how/if i can customise/revert/use the new changes?
> 

For the vast majority of users, nothing needs to be changed.  If you
run a multi-user system, nothing about your existing users will change,
but new users created with adduser will have the new permissions.  If
you do not want this, the method for changing it back is well
documented.

> I also found the end of the draft was written almost combatively - as
> a
> user i dont really care about bug reports or whether developers
> argued
> on a mailing list: i just want to know the facts and whether i need
> to
> do anything different as a result. A more neutral phrasing would be
> better and would also go out-of-date slower.

I am sorry you read it that way; as I said, we felt that an extended
description of the change (and some of its history, for people
wondering why this change is happening) was appropriate.  Certainly no
combativeness was intended.

> 
> Most NEWS files suffer from this to some extent but i was hoping for
> something with less about bug reports and more like:
> 
> 
> "adduser version 3.122 has changed
> pp (DIR_MODE setting in /etc/ ) from aaa to bbb (one of these
> is
> 0700 i think, but i couldnt tell which?).

Respectfully, the NEWS is not THAT unclear.  Perhaps a better opening
would have been:


The default mode for users created with adduser is now 0700.  If you
don't know what that means and/or don't know what the default was, you
can ignore this change.

(but that alone would leave questions unanswered, for people that have
followed the issue)

Anyway, its been released at this point, so the issue is moot :)

--
Cheers,
Matt


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Re: adduser default for sgid home directories

2022-07-24 Thread Bjørn Mork
Matt Barry  writes:

>> - why has a change been made
>
> I think this is explained in excruciating detail.  The short version
> (from NEWS):
>
> "mode 0700 provides both the most secure, unsurprising default"

This is a self-referencing explanation.  It provides no value.  It's
only good if you already understand (and agree) that 0700 is more secure.

And the claim that this is "most unsurprising" (less surprising?) is
obviously false. "No change" is always less surprising than any change,
whatever the rationale is.


Bjørn



Re: adduser default for sgid home directories

2022-07-24 Thread Philipp Kern

On 25.07.22 08:46, Bjørn Mork wrote:

Matt Barry  writes:

- why has a change been made


I think this is explained in excruciating detail.  The short version
(from NEWS):

"mode 0700 provides both the most secure, unsurprising default"

[...]

And the claim that this is "most unsurprising" (less surprising?) is
obviously false. "No change" is always less surprising than any change,
whatever the rationale is.


It can also be unsurprising from an end-user's perspective. For someone 
new to the system. So that line of argument does not really hold.


Kind regards
Philipp Kern