debian 11 Bullseye RC 1

2021-05-29 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
All,

I just successfully installed bullseye RC 1 on my Asus notebook model
X200CA. Everything is working. If you are looking for a notebook to
run Debian I highly recommend this model.

I installed Bullseye RC 1 on my new HP Pavillion 15-eh0097nr laptop.
The AMD Ryzen 4700 is a work horse but the integrated graphics don't
work. The WiFi does not work needs kernel 5.12. The bluetooth does not
work needs kernel 5.12. For now it will have to stay on Windows...
Boo If you are looking for a laptop to run debian I do not
recommend this model. I have Debian 11 RC 1 running in a virtual
machine with VirtualBox and almost everything works. I am not able to
mount my USB drive formatted to EXT4 and SDDM locks up and is
unresponsive after locking the screen for an extended period of time
requiring a reboot.

Can anyone suggest a WiFi USB adapter that works with debian? I have
purchased four from Amazon 2 AC 2 N and none of them work with
Bullseye. I want one that does not require building my own drivers and
has the drivers built into the Linux kernel. Any suggestions would be
greatly appreciated.

Looking forward to testing RC 2 when it is released.

Tim



Re: debian 11 Bullseye RC 1

2021-05-29 Thread John Scott
On Sat, 2021-05-29 at 07:27 -0400, Timothy M Butterworth wrote:
> Can anyone suggest a WiFi USB adapter that works with debian?

(Disclaimer: I'm the maintainer of the firmware-ath9k-htc package, and
ThinkPenguin, one of the vendors, has compensated me for my work.)

I suggest getting a wireless adapter that is Respects Your Freedom
certified by the Free Software Foundation to work with only free
software. You can see a list of those here:
https://ryf.fsf.org/products?category=7

These are guaranteed to work with fully free software and free
firmware.

Most (all?) of the USB ones use the ath9k_htc chipset, and although
they're not yet working with the installer (#934822) or working out of
the box (#900171), they work if you install the firmware-ath9k-htc
package.

Alternatively, you may reply to me privately if you're looking for
advice on how to hunt eBay for bargain ones, although then you're
taking a gamble of whether a device really has the chip inside it's
supposed to.


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Re: debian 11 Bullseye RC 1

2021-05-29 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 07:27:48AM -0400, Timothy M Butterworth wrote:
> All,
> 
> I just successfully installed bullseye RC 1 on my Asus notebook model
> X200CA. Everything is working. If you are looking for a notebook to
> run Debian I highly recommend this model.
> 
> I installed Bullseye RC 1 on my new HP Pavillion 15-eh0097nr laptop.
> The AMD Ryzen 4700 is a work horse but the integrated graphics don't
> work. The WiFi does not work needs kernel 5.12. The bluetooth does not
> work needs kernel 5.12. For now it will have to stay on Windows...
> Boo If you are looking for a laptop to run debian I do not
> recommend this model. I have Debian 11 RC 1 running in a virtual
> machine with VirtualBox and almost everything works. I am not able to
> mount my USB drive formatted to EXT4 and SDDM locks up and is
> unresponsive after locking the screen for an extended period of time
> requiring a reboot.
> 
> Can anyone suggest a WiFi USB adapter that works with debian? I have
> purchased four from Amazon 2 AC 2 N and none of them work with
> Bullseye. I want one that does not require building my own drivers and
> has the drivers built into the Linux kernel. Any suggestions would be
> greatly appreciated.
> 
> Looking forward to testing RC 2 when it is released.
> 
> Tim
> 
Tim,

Are you using the unoffcial non-free firmware .iso to install from?

Are you installing firmware-amdgpu from the non-free repository if not?

You may just be hitting the generic "I have a brand new laptop - why won't it
install" problem common to every Linux for a short while as the newest
hardware lacks immediate support.

What does lspci report for the Wifi chipset in the laptop itself?

All the very best, as ever,

Andy C.



Re: debian 11 Bullseye RC 1

2021-05-29 Thread Holger Wansing



Am 29. Mai 2021 18:33:34 MESZ schrieb "Andrew M.A. Cater" :
>Are you using the unoffcial non-free firmware .iso to install from?
>
>Are you installing firmware-amdgpu from the non-free repository if not?

Please note that there is no such package with name
"firmware-amdgpu" !
(You have already been told so in the past.)

It's named "firmware-amd-graphics".

Holger


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Re: debian 11 Bullseye RC 1

2021-05-29 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On 5/29/21, Holger Wansing  wrote:
>
>
> Am 29. Mai 2021 18:33:34 MESZ schrieb "Andrew M.A. Cater"
> :
>>Are you using the unoffcial non-free firmware .iso to install from?
>>
>>Are you installing firmware-amdgpu from the non-free repository if not?
>
> Please note that there is no such package with name
> "firmware-amdgpu" !
> (You have already been told so in the past.)
>
> It's named "firmware-amd-graphics".

I just found this:
https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/weekly-live-builds/amd64/iso-hybrid/
I am going to download and install from this image. Hopefully my WiFi
will work if not Linux Mint has drivers so I may download and install
it.

> Holger
>
>
> --
> Sent from /e/ OS on Fairphone3
>
>



Re: debian 11 Bullseye RC 1

2021-05-29 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi,

On 2021-05-29 1:55 p.m., Timothy M Butterworth wrote:
> On 5/29/21, Holger Wansing  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Am 29. Mai 2021 18:33:34 MESZ schrieb "Andrew M.A. Cater"
>> :
>>> Are you using the unoffcial non-free firmware .iso to install from?
>>>
>>> Are you installing firmware-amdgpu from the non-free repository if not?
>>
>> Please note that there is no such package with name
>> "firmware-amdgpu" !
>> (You have already been told so in the past.)
>>
>> It's named "firmware-amd-graphics".
> 
> I just found this:
> https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/weekly-live-builds/amd64/iso-hybrid/
> I am going to download and install from this image. Hopefully my WiFi
> will work if not Linux Mint has drivers so I may download and install
> it.
> 
You can also preseed the firmware or add them to your own system afterward.
I doubt that amdgpu firmware is preventing you from booting !

>> Holger
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sent from /e/ OS on Fairphone3
>>
>>
> 

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Re: debian 11 Bullseye RC 1

2021-05-29 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 12:29:48PM +, John Scott wrote:
> On Sat, 2021-05-29 at 07:27 -0400, Timothy M Butterworth wrote:
> > Can anyone suggest a WiFi USB adapter that works with debian?
> 
> (Disclaimer: I'm the maintainer of the firmware-ath9k-htc package, and
> ThinkPenguin, one of the vendors, has compensated me for my work.)
> 
> I suggest getting a wireless adapter that is Respects Your Freedom
> certified by the Free Software Foundation to work with only free
> software. You can see a list of those here:
> https://ryf.fsf.org/products?category=7
No 802.11ac, right?

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Re: debian 11 Bullseye RC 1

2021-05-29 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 07:27:48AM -0400, Timothy M Butterworth wrote:
> I just successfully installed bullseye RC 1 on my Asus notebook model
> X200CA. Everything is working. If you are looking for a notebook to
> run Debian I highly recommend this model.
> 
> I installed Bullseye RC 1 on my new HP Pavillion 15-eh0097nr laptop.
> The AMD Ryzen 4700 is a work horse but the integrated graphics don't
> work. The WiFi does not work needs kernel 5.12. The bluetooth does not
> work needs kernel 5.12. 
It's not *that* surprising but can you provide more info (e.g. the links
saying these require 5.12)?

> Can anyone suggest a WiFi USB adapter that works with debian? I have
> purchased four from Amazon 2 AC 2 N and none of them work with
> Bullseye. I want one that does not require building my own drivers and
> has the drivers built into the Linux kernel. Any suggestions would be
> greatly appreciated.
If the only problem with the internal one is a too old kernel then
certainly installing a newer kernel (even building it manually) is better
than literally buying several devices...

> Looking forward to testing RC 2 when it is released.
If the hardware requires a kernel newer than 5.10 this likely won't change
things.

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Re: debian 11 Bullseye RC 1

2021-05-29 Thread John Scott
On Sat, 2021-05-29 at 23:26 +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> > On Sat, 2021-05-29 at 07:27 -0400, Timothy M Butterworth wrote:
> > > Can anyone suggest a WiFi USB adapter that works with debian?
> > 
> > (Disclaimer: I'm the maintainer of the firmware-ath9k-htc package,
> > and ThinkPenguin, one of the vendors, has compensated me for my work.)
> > 
> > I suggest getting a wireless adapter that is Respects Your Freedom
> > certified by the Free Software Foundation to work with only free
> > software. You can see a list of those here:
> > https://ryf.fsf.org/products?category=7
> No 802.11ac, right?
Correct, to the best of my knowledge there don't exist any libre Wi-Fi
adapters supporting 802.11ac, USB or otherwise. Even the OpenWifi
project seems to have their sights set on 802.11n.

In theory this might not be a hardware limitation, but a
driver+firmware one.


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Re: debian 11 Bullseye RC 1

2021-05-29 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting John Scott (2021-05-30 00:55:04)
> On Sat, 2021-05-29 at 23:26 +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2021-05-29 at 07:27 -0400, Timothy M Butterworth wrote:
> > > > Can anyone suggest a WiFi USB adapter that works with debian?
> > > 
> > > (Disclaimer: I'm the maintainer of the firmware-ath9k-htc package,
> > > and ThinkPenguin, one of the vendors, has compensated me for my work.)
> > > 
> > > I suggest getting a wireless adapter that is Respects Your Freedom 
> > > certified by the Free Software Foundation to work with only free 
> > > software. You can see a list of those here: 
> > > https://ryf.fsf.org/products?category=7
> > No 802.11ac, right?
> Correct, to the best of my knowledge there don't exist any libre Wi-Fi 
> adapters supporting 802.11ac, USB or otherwise. Even the OpenWifi 
> project seems to have their sights set on 802.11n.

Seems OpenWifi has (at least a subset of) the newer 802.11ax in sight: 
https://github.com/open-sdr/openwifi/issues/56 
https://github.com/open-sdr/openwifi/issues/19

That said, I agree that 802.11n is the limit with Free drivers today.

 - Jonas

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