Re: Proposal: Repository for fast-paced package backports

2019-01-01 Thread Scott Leggett
On 2018-12-31.18:06, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Mon, 2018-12-31 at 18:31 +0100, Jonas Meurer wrote:
> > Pirate Praveen:
> > > On 2018, ഡിസംബർ 31 5:19:22 PM IST, Jonas Meurer  
> > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Please don't name it 'rolling'. This term is used a lot in the sense of
> > > > 'rolling releases' by other distributions, and also in discussions
> > > > about
> > > > constantly usable testing.
> > > 
> > > Well, it only makes things clear as the packages in this repo will be 
> > > rolling.
> > 
> > ... as packages do in unstable, testing and ${stable}-backports. So it's
> > not a particularly good term to describe the unique feature of the new
> > repo either. In my eyes, 'fastpaced' makes the point far better.
> > 
> > But as said, the main argument against calling it 'rolling' is that it
> > would create confusion due to the name already being used in other
> > (Debian-related) contexts.
> 
> At the risk of bikeshedding, some alternate names that might be less
> confusing:
> 
> - fresh-apps
> - evergreen
> - rolling-apps

To continue the bikeshedding, what about "express"? Seems quite fitting
as the packages don't make the usual stop through testing...

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Re: Bits from the DPL (December 2018)

2019-01-01 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Dec 31 2018, Chris Lamb  wrote:
>  * Followed-up on progress regarding potential new "Member Benefits"
>[9] and ensured that some previously-promised reports for events
>funded by Debian ended up appearing on Planet [10].
>
>I also provided solicited (!) advice to a few other developers on
>conference booths and suitable/alternative conferences they may
>wish to attend instead.

Is there something missing here? Attend instead of what, and how does
that relate to member benefits?


Best,
-Nikolaus

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Re: fuse -> fuse3

2019-01-01 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Dec 25 2018, "Theodore Y. Ts'o"  wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 11:03:34PM +0100, Oibaf wrote:
>> The package fuse3 is available since awhile in sid/buster.
>> Their users however are still using old fuse (v2), e.g. sshfs-fuse.
>> According to this:
>> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=912528
>> fuse3 is not co-installable with fuse, but a patch is available.
>> 
>> So is there a chance this get fixed and sshfs-fuse and other package can be
>> updated to use fuse3 for buster?
>
> Thanks for mentioning it!  I didn't even *know* about the existence of
> fuse3.  Is libfuse3 API compatible with fuse2?

No, but in most cases the necessary changes are not too invasive.

> P.S.  If fuse3 and fuse are not co-installable, we really should have
> managed this as a formal buster migration earlier.

They are co-installable in principle, this is just a bug in packaging.

Best,
-Nikolaus

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Bug#917943: ITP: kuttypy -- Graphic user interface to interact with KuttyPy

2019-01-01 Thread Georges Khaznadar
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Georges Khaznadar 

* Package name: kuttypy
  Version : 0.1
  Upstream Author : Jithin B.P. 
* URL : https://github.com/csparkresearch/KuttyPy-GUI
* License : MIT, CC0
  Programming Lang: Python
  Description : Graphic user interface to interact with KuttyPy

 KuttyPy is a USB interfaced board that gives you an option to do such
 things like to switch a light bulb, rotate a motor or measure a
 temperature under software control, in pure Python.
 .
 Playing with LEDs, motors, switches etc. is the primary objective of
 this hardware, but the experience gained in manipulating the 32
 Input/Output pins of this board will gradually make you familiar with
 the ATMega32 micro-controller.

This utility offers a glimpse into the brain of the
processor, and allows students to fiddle with it in real time.
I believe this can be exciting for a high school audience.

The autor of kuttypy-gui, Jithin B.P., has also authored the
package eyes17 (part of the debian package exepeyes) which I
maintain since year 2012. I shall keep maintaining both of them.

One remarkable point is that the kuttypy board, like eyes17 board,
is free hardware, designed in the spirit of frugal technology.



Re: Proposal: Repository for fast-paced package backports

2019-01-01 Thread Pirate Praveen
On 1/1/19 3:42 PM, Scott Leggett wrote:
> To continue the bikeshedding, what about "express"? Seems quite fitting
> as the packages don't make the usual stop through testing...

I think STS (Short term support) will fit nicely with LTS. If there is
no serious objections, I'd go with this.



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Re: Bits from the DPL (December 2018)

2019-01-01 Thread Chris Lamb
Hi Nikolaus,

> >  * Followed-up on progress regarding potential new "Member Benefits"
> >[9] and ensured that some previously-promised reports for events
> >funded by Debian ended up appearing on Planet [10].
> >
> >I also provided solicited (!) advice to a few other developers on
> >conference booths and suitable/alternative conferences they may
> >wish to attend instead.
> 
> Is there something missing here? Attend instead of what, and how does
> that relate to member benefits?

I don't believe anything is missing; these are two standalone
sentences on different topics. ("X conference? Thought about Y
conference instead?")


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Re: Proposal: Repository for fast-paced package backports

2019-01-01 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 1:06 PM Ben Hutchings wrote:
> At the risk of bikeshedding, some alternate names that might be less
> confusing:
>
> - fresh-apps
> - evergreen
> - rolling-apps

At further risk of bikeshedding, how about "sideports"?

1. Uses a metaphor rather similar to backports.
2. Sorts lexicographically after bpo, although its not clear to me
which should take precedence.
3. The sideports.org domain name could be registered and used to
address the concern backports maintainers keep bringing up about
starting this outside of debian first.  Less arguing required, more
doing.

Negatives:

1. Sorts lexicographically after security updates, "debXuY"

Best wishes,
Mike



Re: Bits from the DPL (December 2018)

2019-01-01 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Jan 01 2019, Chris Lamb  wrote:
> Hi Nikolaus,
>
>> >  * Followed-up on progress regarding potential new "Member Benefits"
>> >[9] and ensured that some previously-promised reports for events
>> >funded by Debian ended up appearing on Planet [10].
>> >
>> >I also provided solicited (!) advice to a few other developers on
>> >conference booths and suitable/alternative conferences they may
>> >wish to attend instead.
>> 
>> Is there something missing here? Attend instead of what, and how does
>> that relate to member benefits?
>
> I don't believe anything is missing; these are two standalone
> sentences on different topics. ("X conference? Thought about Y
> conference instead?")

Then maybe a missing bullet point for the second paragraph? But even
with that I remain rather confused. What is the conference for which
these developers wanted an alternative, and why?

(I'm just very curious)

Best,
-Nikolaus

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