Re: Question regarding patching in 4.9 kernel

[Harish Venkatraman]

Hi Ben, 

I am trying to manually back port to Linux 4.9 since in the link I don’t see a 
patch provided for 4.9 version. The last version that has this patch is 4.11, 
wanted to know if back port of this patch is supported on Linux 4.9 or this 
patch is supported only from 4.11?

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> On Sep 26, 2018, at 6:45 PM, Ben Hutchings  wrote:
> 
> [Note Reply-to: debian-kernel.]
> 
>> On Wed, 2018-09-26 at 18:00 +, Harish Venkatraman wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I want the following patch to be back ported to 4.9 kernel. Can you
>> please let me know if it can be back ported to 4.9 kernel?
>> 
>> https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/63a6fff353d01da5a22b72670c434bf12fa0e3b8
> 
> I assume you're talking about Linux 4.9 as used in Debian 9 "stretch".
> Debian doesn't normally add features to stable releases, so I don't see
> why would we do this.

> Ben.
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Re: Question regarding patching in 4.9 kernel

[Andrey Rahmatullin]

On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 02:28:35AM +, Harish Venkatraman wrote:
> Hi Ben, 
> 
> I am trying to manually back port to Linux 4.9 since in the link I don’t see 
> a patch provided for 4.9 version. The last version that has this patch is 
> 4.11, wanted to know if back port of this patch is supported on Linux 4.9 or 
> this patch is supported only from 4.11?
This is a wrong place to ask though, as this question is not related to
Debian.

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Re: epoch bump request for gnome-calculator

[Raphael Hertzog]

On Wed, 26 Sep 2018, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
> So is it appropriate to bump an epoch in Debian to match an important
> downstream's epoch?

Yes. Precisely because there is collaboration between both sides on those
packages.

The attitude "we don't care of mistakes made by derivatives" is
counter-productive. In the context of packages shared by Kali and Debian,
there have been times where I requested an upload on the Debian side
to increase the version to something bigger than what we had in Kali
so that we could sync (it was not an epoch bump, mainly a different way
to name git snapshots IIRC) and the maintainer accepted.

On the opposite side, Debian has been importing packages from Kali and
sometimes the maintainer picked the same .orig.tar.gz with a different
checksum and this made it impossible to sync the package (reprepro like
dak can't deal with different copies of the same file). I had to remove
all copies of the source package in Kali (including snapshots that should
not be modified) to be able to import. I could have requested the Debian
maintainer to change the upstream version (say with a +ds suffix) but I
did not do that.

I cut some slack to the careless Debian maintainer and I expect them to
cut some slack to us as derivative as well when we need some help to make
our life easier.

Cheers,
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Re: epoch bump request for gnome-calculator

[Colin Watson]

On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 09:32:31AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 9:48 PM Jeremy Bicha wrote:
> > So is it appropriate to bump an epoch in Debian to match an important
> > downstream's epoch?
> 
> An alternative might be for Launchpad to allow whitelisted downgrades
> of source packages (dropping the epoch) (zero idea how feasible that
> is) and then a dpkg-vendor conditional in debian/rules to re-add the
> epoch to the binary packages when they are being built for Ubuntu.

Launchpad doesn't need any changes here.  It's perfectly possible to get
Launchpad to accept a downgrade: while it won't accept it via the normal
upload path, Ubuntu archive admins can do it by way of a delete followed
by a copy.

Doing so for binary packages would be contrary to Ubuntu archive policy
for the obvious reason that apt clients would then be stranded on an old
version that compares greater than all current versions.  Doing so for
source packages would be unconventional but could be discussed.

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Re: epoch bump request for gnome-calculator

[Colin Watson]

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 11:41:02PM -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
> I appreciate your thinking of possible solutions, but my understanding
> is that Canonical isn't investing in any more Launchpad work than is
> necessary.

This overstates the case a bit.  It's true that we don't have a large
number of people working on Launchpad in the way that we did pre-2012,
but there's still active development going on and we can and do slot in
small amounts of unplanned work easily enough.  (However, as I said in
my previous reply to this thread, I don't believe any Launchpad work is
needed in this case.)

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New software for Debian

[Tommi Höynälänmaa]

Hi

I would like to include the following software to Debian testing or 
stable distribution:


- Theme-D programming language

- Theme-D-Gnome library

See pages

  http://www.iki.fi/tohoyn/theme-d/

  http://www.iki.fi/tohoyn/theme-d/theme-d-gnome.html

What should I do?

 - Tommi Höynälänmaa

Re: New software for Debian

[eamanu15]

Hi Tommi,

I think that you have to package it or search a contributor/mantainer  to
package it.

Regards!

El jue., 27 de sep. de 2018 a la(s) 09:30, Tommi Höynälänmaa (
tommi.hoynalan...@gmail.com) escribió:

> Hi
>
> I would like to include the following software to Debian testing or
> stable distribution:
>
> - Theme-D programming language
>
> - Theme-D-Gnome library
>
> See pages
>
>http://www.iki.fi/tohoyn/theme-d/
>
>http://www.iki.fi/tohoyn/theme-d/theme-d-gnome.html
>
> What should I do?
>
>   - Tommi Höynälänmaa
>
>
>

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Re: New software for Debian

[Paul Wise]

On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 8:50 PM eamanu15 wrote:

> I think that you have to package it or search a contributor/mantainer  to 
> package it.

The canonical guide for new package maintainers is here:

https://mentors.debian.net/intro-maintainers

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Bug#909760: ITP: eclipse-platform-team -- Platform Team Repository Integration Framework

[Jochen Sprickerhof]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Jochen Sprickerhof 

* Package name: eclipse-platform-team
  Version : 4.7.3
  Upstream Author : Eclipse Foundation, Inc.
* URL : https://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/platform-team/
* License : EPL-1.0
  Programming Lang: Java
  Description : Platform Team Repository Integration Framework

The Team component is responsible for providing repository tooling
integration into Eclipse and a universal compare facility for use by
repository tooling and others.

This package will be maintained by the Java Team. It's required to update
the Eclipse ecosystem in Debian and complete the transition to Java 11.

Re: epoch bump request for gnome-calculator

[gregor herrmann]

On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 12:49:38 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Sep 2018, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
> > So is it appropriate to bump an epoch in Debian to match an important
> > downstream's epoch?
> Yes. Precisely because there is collaboration between both sides on those
> packages.
[..]
 
I agree.

While epochs are nasty and ,
having this one more doesn't really hurt anyone and makes a
maintainer's life easier. Therefore I'm willing to hold my nose,
shrug, and look the other way :)


Cheers,
gregor

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Work-needing packages report for Sep 28, 2018

[wnpp]

The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested
through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the
last week.

Total number of orphaned packages: 1299 (new: 2)
Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 168 (new: 0)
Total number of packages requested help for: 55 (new: 0)

Please refer to http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ for more information.



The following packages have been orphaned:

   etcd-fs (#909546), orphaned 2 days ago
 Description: FUSE client for etcd
 Installations reported by Popcon: 8
 Bug Report URL: http://bugs.debian.org/909546

   tk-brief (#909433), orphaned 4 days ago
 Description: GUI for easily writing letters with LaTeX
 Installations reported by Popcon: 63
 Bug Report URL: http://bugs.debian.org/909433

1297 older packages have been omitted from this listing, see
http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/orphaned for a complete list.



No new packages have been given up for adoption, but a total of 168 packages
are awaiting adoption.  See http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/rfa_bypackage
for a complete list.



For the following packages help is requested:

   autopkgtest (#846328), requested 666 days ago
 Description: automatic as-installed testing for Debian packages
 Reverse Depends: autodeb-worker debci-worker
 Installations reported by Popcon: 1127
 Bug Report URL: http://bugs.debian.org/846328

   balsa (#642906), requested 2559 days ago
 Description: An e-mail client for GNOME
 Installations reported by Popcon: 704
 Bug Report URL: http://bugs.debian.org/642906

   broadcom-sta (#886599), requested 262 days ago (non-free)
 Description: Broadcom STA Wireless driver (non-free)
 Installations reported by Popcon: 1909
 Bug Report URL: http://bugs.debian.org/886599

   cargo (#860116), requested 534 days ago
 Description: Rust package manager
 Reverse Depends: dh-cargo
 Installations reported by Popcon: 650
 Bug Report URL: http://bugs.debian.org/860116

   cyrus-sasl2 (#799864), requested 1100 days ago
 Description: authentication abstraction library
 Reverse Depends: 389-ds-base 389-ds-base-libs 389-dsgw adcli
   autofs-ldap cairo-dock-mail-plug-in claws-mail
   claws-mail-acpi-notifier claws-mail-address-keeper
   claws-mail-archiver-plugin (120 more omitted)
 Installations reported by Popcon: 198775
 Bug Report URL: http://bugs.debian.org/799864

   dee (#831388), requested 804 days ago
 Description: model to synchronize mutiple instances over DBus
 Reverse Depends: dee-tools gir1.2-dee-1.0 libdee-1.0-4-dbg
   libdee-dev zeitgeist-core
 Installations reported by Popcon: 62038
 Bug Report URL: http://bugs.debian.org/831388

   developers-reference (#759995), requested 1489 days ago
 Description: guidelines and information for Debian developers
 Installations reported by Popcon: 11908
 Bug Report URL: http://bugs.debian.org/759995

   devscripts (#800413), requested 1094 days ago
 Description: scripts to make the life of a Debian Package maintainer
   easier
 Reverse Depends: apt-build apt-listdifferences aptfs arriero
   autodeb-worker brz-debian bzr-builddeb customdeb debci
   debian-builder (29 more omitted)
 Installations reported by Popcon: 12824
 Bug Report URL: http://bugs.debian.org/800413

   docker.io (#908868), requested 12 days ago
 Description: Linux container runtime
 Reverse Depends: golang-docker-dev
   golang-github-fsouza-go-dockerclient-dev
   golang-github-google-cadvisor-dev
   golang-github-samalba-dockerclient-dev kubernetes-node subuser
   whalebuilder
 Installations reported by Popcon: 1313
 Bug Report URL: http://bugs.debian.org/908868

   ed (#886643), requested 262 days ago
 Description: classic UNIX line editor
 Reverse Depends: apt-cacher libdebbugs-perl opensmtpd sn
 Installations reported by Popcon: 20168
 Bug Report URL: http://bugs.debian.org/886643

   ejabberd (#767874), requested 1424 days ago
 Description: distributed, fault-tolerant Jabber/XMPP server written
   in Erlang
 Reverse Depends: ejabberd-contrib ejabberd-mod-cron
   ejabberd-mod-log-chat ejabberd-mod-logsession ejabberd-mod-logxml
   ejabberd-mod-message-log ejabberd-mod-muc-log-http
   ejabberd-mod-post-log ejabberd-mod-pottymouth ejabberd-mod-rest (4
   more omitted)
 Installations reported by Popcon: 545
 Bug Report URL: http://bugs.debian.org/767874

   fbcat (#565156), requested 3179 days ago
 Description: framebuffer grabber
 Installations reported by Popcon: 192
 Bug Report URL: http://bugs.debian.org/565156

   fgetty (#823061), requested 880 days ago
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Outreachy December - March round!

[Paul Wise]

 Forwarded Message 
From: Molly de Blanc 
To: debian-wo...@lists.debian.org
Subject: Outreachy December - March round!

It's that time of the year again: Outreachy December - March
application round!

Outreachy is a project that provides three-month internships for people
underrepresented in tech, focused entirely on free and open source
software projects. Read more about Outreachy: https://www.outreachy.org/

Debian has participated in the past, and will be doing so again this
upcoming round. This means we're looking for mentors, co-mentors, and
projects for interns.

What you should do if you think you want to participate:

- Come up with a project idea. If you're interested, but uncertain
about mentoring, finding a co-mentor can make this significantly easier;
- Add your project idea to:
https://wiki.debian.org/Outreachy/Round16/Projects;
- After your project idea is added, it will be reviewed and, if
accepted, you'll be asked to add it to the Outreachy Debian community
page .

A few more notes:
- Please keep projects Debian specific;
- You don't have to be a DD to be a mentor, but if you're not,
please try to find a co-mentor who is;
- Suggesting a project or having a great applicant (sadly) does not
mean they will definitely get funded;
- We have secured funding for two (2) interns! If there are more
really stellar applicants, we'll apply for Outreachy general funds and
try to do some fundraising on our own;
- October 16th is the deadline for listing projects, so please
submit all of your ideas by October 14th.
- For a complete timeline, see:
https://www.outreachy.org/apply/project-selection/

That's all for now!

Cheers,
Molly, on behalf of the Debian Outreach Team




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