Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

[gregor herrmann]

On Wed, 05 Apr 2017 08:54:57 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:

> On Apr 05, Andrey Rahmatullin  wrote:
> > I don't trust Linux enough to put my laptop into the bag not checking that
> > it is indeed suspended.
> Indeed, about every month my Latitude immediately wakes up after 
> suspend, and when this happen I can only reboot it because it will keep 
> waking up again after every attempt at suspending.

The last time I had this issue, `echo mem > /sys/power/state' helped. 


Cheers,
gregor

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Laptop reboot and suspend

[Teemu Likonen]

Florian Lohoff [2017-04-05 07:55:29+02] wrote:

> I have a very different perception - It is so rare that i reboot my
> notebook which travels with me all day that everytime i do i have
> troubles remembering the 30+ character Luks passphrase. I
> suspend/resume multiple times a day and thats my current uptime:
>
>  07:49:26 up 22 days, 20:04,  4 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.05, 0.17

That also means that you have had your encrypted LUKS partitions open
for almost 23 days. My laptop's (Apple Macbook Air) suspend-resume works
well with Debian 8 but I shut it down when traveling through risky
places because I want to have my data encrypted (can't use gpg
separately for all valuable data).

I suggest posting follow-ups to debian-user list (Cc'd) and dropping
-devel.

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can't push new version to collab-maint

[Harald Dunkel]

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Hi folks,

trying to push a new version of mg to collab-maint I get an error
message "unable to update info/refs+"


{harri@cecil:mg (pristine-tar) 588} git push
Counting objects: 4, done.
Delta compression using up to 8 threads.
Compressing objects: 100% (3/3), done.
Writing objects: 100% (4/4), 2.54 KiB | 0 bytes/s, done.
Total 4 (delta 1), reused 0 (delta 0)
remote: Sending notification emails to: dispatch+mg_...@tracker.debian.org
remote: error: unable to update info/refs+
To ssh://git.debian.org/git/collab-maint/mg.git
   75c9e8a..74e  pristine-tar -> pristine-tar

{harri@cecil:mg (pristine-tar) 589} git remote -v
origin  ssh://harri-gu...@git.debian.org/git/collab-maint/mg.git (fetch)
origin  ssh://harri-gu...@git.debian.org/git/collab-maint/mg.git (push)


This is not my first upload of mg, of course.


Every helpful comment is highly appreciated.
Harri
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Bug#859626: ITP: pgaudit -- PostgreSQL Audit Extension

[Michael Banck]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Michael Banck 

* Package name: pgaudit
  Version : 1.1.0
  Upstream Author : pgAudit developers
* URL : http://pgaudit.org/, https://github.com/pgaudit/pgaudit
* License : PostgreSQL
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : PostgreSQL Audit Extension

 The pgAudit extension provides detailed session and/or object audit
 logging via the standard PostgreSQL logging facility.
 .
 The goal of pgAudit is to provide PostgreSQL users with capability to
 produce audit logs often required to comply with government, financial,
 or ISO certifications.
 .
 An audit is an official inspection of an individual's or organization's
 accounts, typically by an independent body. The information gathered by
 pgAudit is properly called an audit trail or audit log.

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

[Marco d'Itri]

On Apr 05, gregor herrmann  wrote:

> > Indeed, about every month my Latitude immediately wakes up after 
> > suspend, and when this happen I can only reboot it because it will keep 
> > waking up again after every attempt at suspending.
> The last time I had this issue, `echo mem > /sys/power/state' helped. 
I expect that systemd correctly manages to do this since the system 
really suspends. But just for one second.

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ciao,
Marco


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Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

[Ian Jackson]

Florian Lohoff writes ("Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 
17.10?""):
> On Wed, Apr 05, 2017 at 02:56:04PM +1000, Russell Stuart wrote:
> > As far as I can tell, for laptop's rebooting is a non-issue mainly
> > because suspend is not reliable enough to use safely [0] - so they are
> > rebooted every day.  Ergo just fixing bug #744753 would be the cure if
> > it is indeed the problem - but it doesn't sound like it to me as this
> > isn't a suspend issue.
> 
> I have a very different perception

Me too.  I guess it depends very much on whether one can afford to buy
a good laptop which works well with Linux.

Ian.

Attention Russel Stuart

[Ian Jackson]

Hi Russel.  Our mail servers seem to be fighting.  Could you contact
me at
   postmas...@chiark.greenend.org.u  (bypasses spamfilter)
   hqo...@fyvzl.net  (bypasses spamfilter even more)
   irc: Diziet on oftc or freenode

The complaint from your MTA is that you can't mail postmaster@chiark.
If true, that would be a bug, and I would like more information so I
can fix it.

I tried to mail postmaster@stuart but it bounced - see below.

Thanks,
Ian.

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Re: Attention Russell Stuart

[Ian Jackson]

Ian Jackson writes ("Attention Russell Stuart"):
> Hi Russell.  Our mail servers seem to be fighting.  Could you contact

Fixed my misspelling of your name.  I'm very sorry!

Ian.

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

[Nikolaus Rath]

On Apr 05 2017, Ian Jackson  wrote:
> Florian Lohoff writes ("Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 
> 17.10?""):
>> On Wed, Apr 05, 2017 at 02:56:04PM +1000, Russell Stuart wrote:
>> > As far as I can tell, for laptop's rebooting is a non-issue mainly
>> > because suspend is not reliable enough to use safely [0] - so they are
>> > rebooted every day.  Ergo just fixing bug #744753 would be the cure if
>> > it is indeed the problem - but it doesn't sound like it to me as this
>> > isn't a suspend issue.
>> 
>> I have a very different perception
>
> Me too.  I guess it depends very much on whether one can afford to buy
> a good laptop which works well with Linux.

I think there's a pre-requisite that's much harder for a lot of people:
finding out what laptop works well with Linux. This is the stage where I
have repeatedly failed - the differences in model numbers are just too
tiny and subtle, and typically things that work well are no longer sold
commercially.


Best,
-Nikolaus

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Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

[Russell Stuart]

On Wed, 2017-04-05 at 12:38 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Me too.  I guess it depends very much on whether one can afford to
> buy a good laptop which works well with Linux.

Not in this case.  My laptop concerned is an Dell XPS 9550.  It wasn't
cheap and in the 12 months of ownership I'd describe the hardware as
better than "good".  Dell's part of the design is not big part of the
total of course, Intel, Sony, Broadcom, Samsung to name a few all have
their fingers in the pie, as they do in every laptop.  But bits Dell
did contribute are extraordinarily well done, with the exception of the
keyboard layout.  It's definitely the best laptop I've ever owned.

My pain is largely self inflicted: I covet shiny bits.  Lots of
companies sell new laptops with bits a couple of years old that work
with Debian stable.  Knowing this, I bought the XPS anyway.

Although there are components in this laptop, almost of the pain come
from one: Intel's Skylake CPU.  (The touchpad also contributed but the
libinput maintainers were fantastic, going way above and beyond the
call of duty and contacting me directly when I complained on LWN.  It
now works wonderfully; worth the early adopter pain then some.) 
Getting Intel's CPU and in particular it's internal GPU working took
far longer and involved more pain than that I bargained for.  Just to
put this into perspective: they didn't work on Windows either.  Intel
CPU's are not something you can avoid by buying a more expensive
laptop.

All this new hardware has meant I have had to run Debian Testing. 
Combine shiny new hardware with the shiny new software needed to drive
it, and random little surprises become part of ones life.  Coming close
to dropping your new laptop because of a burning sensation as you
retrieve it from it's bag wasn't surprising or even unexpected - not to
me anyway.

Anyway, this discussion prompted me to get off my bum and look at why
unattended-upgrades wasn't working.  Turns out the default install has
"label=Debian-Security", and all these laptops are running testing.  I
guess the assumption that people running testing have the wherewithal
to configure their machines properly isn't unreasonable.


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Fwd: can anyone review diaspora-installer?

[Pirate Praveen]

Sharing with wider debian community, hoping to get some support.

Current version in unstable does not have any RC bugs, but recent
changes in the package made release managers not happy with the quality
of the package and it was removed from testing. Now their justification
to not accept unblock request is lack of time to review it before
stretch release.

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To: debian-ruby 

Hi team,

A review will help with unblock request.

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=858180#37

Losing diaspora-installer after putting years long effort would be very
demotivating.

thanks
Praveen





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