Post-stretch mass bug filing: build-depending on automake1.11

2017-03-12 Thread Simon McVittie 
Most packages in Debian that run autoreconf currently build-depend
directly or indirectly on automake (version 1.14.1 in jessie, released
2013; version 1.15 in stretch/sid, released in 2015). However, 58
packages in sid still build with automake1.11, released in 2009. This
doesn't seem desirable for buster.

I am *not* planning to report these bugs as RC, unless the release team
or the automake1.11 maintainer want to remove automake1.11 from
buster entirely (if so, please let me know).

Most of the packages that I've glanced at so far seem to have moved
from an ancient version (often automake1.4 or automake1.9) to 1.11.
In the past, Automake had a tendency to break compatibility
between minor releases, making it desirable to lock the build system
to the specific version that upstream used. However, recent versions
have been queueing up incompatible changes for 2.0 instead (as
described in the Automake 1.14 release notes,
)
so maybe many of these packages can track 1.x indefinitely?

A dd-list follows, generated by:

grep-dctrl -FBuild-Depends,Build-Depends-Arch,Build-Depends-Indep \
automake1.11 \
/var/lib/apt/lists/deb.debian.org_debian_dists_sid_*_source_Sources \
| dd-list --dctrl

Nothing seems to have a runtime dependency on automake1.11, at least
not on amd64 or i386. A couple of these packages build-depend on
automake (>= 1.11) | automake1.11, but to be honest they'd probably be
better off with just automake (>= 1.11) anyway, so I haven't filtered
those out.

Regards,
S

 dd-list of affected packages 

Adrian Knoth 
   jack-audio-connection-kit (U)

Andrew Lee (李健秋) 
   scim-chewing (U)

Andy Spencer 
   aweather (U)

Anibal Monsalve Salazar 
   libnfsidmap

Barry deFreese 
   qonk (U)

Ben Armstrong 
   xpilot-ng

Bill Allombert 
   libjpeg6b
   libjpeg8

ChangZhuo Chen (陳昌倬) 
   scim-chewing (U)

Christoph Egger 
   warzone2100 (U)

Chrysostomos Nanakos 
   tcpstat

Chuan-kai Lin 
   fam

Clément Stenac 
   madplay (U)

Debian Accessibility Team 
   svox

Debian Games Team 
   qonk
   warzone2100

Debian Gauche Maintainers 
   gauche

Debian GCC Maintainers 
   cloog-ppl

Debian Med Packaging Team 
   trinityrnaseq

Debian Multimedia Maintainers 

   icecast2
   jack-audio-connection-kit
   libshout
   pd-iemmatrix
   unicap

Debian OCaml Maintainers 
   cairo-ocaml

Debian PHP Maintainers 
   php7.0
   php7.1

Debian Printing Team 
   ijs

Debian QA Group 
   agg
   aumix

Debian Science Maintainers 
   ann
   aweather
   lhapdf

Debian Science Team 
   freefem3d

Debian XMPP Maintainers 
   gsasl

Emanuele Rocca 
   urlview

Florian Maier 
   smartmontools (U)

Free Ekanayaka 
   jack-audio-connection-kit (U)

Giacomo Catenazzi 
   g15mpd
   libg15render

Giulio Paci 
   basilisk2 (U)

Giuseppe Iuculano 
   smartmontools

Guillaume Pellerin 
   icecast2 (U)
   libshout (U)

Hakan Ardo 
   avr-libc
   gcc-avr

HIGUCHI Daisuke (VDR dai) 
   uim

IME Packaging Team 
   scim-chewing

IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU) 
   pd-iemmatrix (U)

Jens Thiele 
   gauche (U)

Jonas Smedegaard 
   basilisk2
   cstream
   icecast2 (U)
   ijs (U)
   jack-audio-connection-kit (U)
   kannel-sqlbox
   libshout (U)
   pd-iemmatrix (U)
   unicap (U)

Jonathan Dowland 
   smartmontools (U)

Jordà Polo 
   exult

Jorge Salamero Sanz 
   gsasl (U)

Jose Luis Tallon 
   libsieve

Junichi Uekawa 
   jack-audio-connection-kit (U)

Jérémy Lal 
   basilisk2 (U)

Kiwamu Okabe 
   uim (U)

Kurt Roeckx 
   madplay (U)

Lifeng Sun 
   lhapdf (U)

Lior Kaplan 
   php7.0 (U)
   php7.1 (U)

Luca Bruno 
   openocd (U)

Mad Maintainers 
   madplay

Martín Ferrari 
   qonk (U)

Marvin Stark 
   syrep

Mathieu Parent 
   svox (U)

Matthias Klose 
   cloog-ppl (U)

Michael Banck 
   exult (U)

Michael R. Crusoe 
   trinityrnaseq (U)

Michael Tautschnig 
   cloog-ppl (U)
   diagnostics

NIIBE Yutaka 
   gauche (U)

Nobuhiro Iwamatsu 
   uim (U)

OHASHI Akira 
   liece

Ondřej Surý 
   php7.0 (U)
   php7.1 (U)

Paul Wise 
   warzone2100 (U)

Peter Eisentraut 
   source-highlight

Phil Brooke 
   xpilot-ng (U)

Philipp Kern 
   hercules

Reinhard Tartler 
   jack-audio-connection-kit (U)

Rene Engelhard 
   muttprint

Romain Beauxis 
   cwiid
   icecast2 (U)
   libshout (U)

Roman Haefeli 
   pd-iemmatrix (U)

Rudy Godoy 
   torcs

Sam Clegg 
   madplay (U)

Samuel Mimram 
   cairo-ocaml (U)

Samuel Thibault 
   svox (U)

Simon Josefsson 
   gsasl (U)

Stephen Kitt 
   basilisk2 (U)

Steve M. Robbins 
   nyquist

Stéphane Glondu 
   cairo-ocaml (U)

Teemu Ikonen 
   ann (U)

Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo 
   gsasl (U)

Tim Retout 
   enscript

Tomas Pospisek 
   mailsync

Unit 193 
   icecast2 (U)

Uwe Hermann 
   openocd

Vincent Cheng 
   conky
   dbus-c++

Willi Mann 
   squidview

YAEGASHI Takeshi 
   gauche (U)

Yaroslav Halchenko 
   qwo

Ying-Chun Liu 
   libshout (U)

Re: Bits from the DPL -- January-February 2017

2017-03-12 Thread jathan 
On 12/03/17 01:14, Mehdi Dogguy wrote:
> Dear fellow developers,
> 
> Here is my report for January and February 2017.
> 
> 
> Stretch Freeze
> ==
> 
> As planned, the Release Team announced the freeze of Stretch [1]. It
> is now our turn to squash bugs and help them to make the release!
> 
> [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2017/02/msg1.html
> 
> As a reminder, I have announced in [2] that I am willing to reimburse
> up to USD 100 (or equivalent in your local currency) for your travel
> and accommodation expenses for participating in Bug Squashing Parties.
> 
> [2] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2016/12/msg1.html
> 
> I am aware of the following BSPs:
> - https://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2017/03/de/credativ (17-19 March in Germany)
> - https://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2017/03/br/Curitiba (18-19 March in Brazil)
> - https://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2017/05/fr/Paris/Announcement (13-14 May
>   in France)
> - https://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2017/05/ch/Zurich (5-7 May in Switzerland)
> 
> If there are no Bug Squashing Parties next to your city, can you
> organize one?
> 
> It is also time to start documenting "The most exciting new things in
> Stretch"! If you have ideas, please submit them to the Release Team
> for inclusion in the release announcement.
> 
> Other ways to help include testing upgrades and installations and
> filing reports for experienced issues.
> 
> Last but not least, if your package is affected by an RC-bug and you
> do not have time or the skills to fix it, please consider tagging it
> with “help” so that other bug squashers can help you.
> 
> 
> DebConf Committee
> =
> 
> It was my pleasure to announce [3] the creation of the DebConf
> Committee as an official team of the Debian project.
> 
> [3] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2017/01/msg3.html
> 
> This new delegation officially deprecates the former delegation
> made for DebConf Chairs and which is no longer valid.
> 
> Unlike DebConf Chairs, the DebConf Committee's role is twofold:
> 
> 1) Organize the bid process and make final decisions about who will
>organize DebConf;
> 
> 2) Provide support to DebConf team and share their experience of
>DebConf organization.
> 
> As last resort, the DebConf Committee has a special power and can
> override specific decisions in the context of DebConf organization.
> 
> Recently, the DebConf Committee reached their first decision and
> announced [4] DebConf18 will be hosted in Hsinchu, Taiwan.
> 
> [4] https://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20170215.171536.9b1203f9.en.html
> 
> 
> Roadmap
> ===
> 
> During DebConf16, I have gathered a list of potential volunteers for
> the roadmap team or people generally interested in the idea of a
> roadmap for Debian.
> 
> Recently, I have tried to start a discussion [5] about organizational
> aspects of this new activity. Everyone is more than welcome if you
> want to join the discussion!
> 
> [5] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debian-roadmap/
> 
> After Stretch's release, a discussion with a wider audience will take
> place.
> 
> 
> Assets
> ==
> - Approved expense of CAD 185.11 to buy the cloth for on-site
>   accommodation for DebConf17.
> - Approved expense of USD 1040 for two Debian contributors to attend
>   and give a talk at FOSSASIA 2017.
> - Approved budget of EUR 750 for listmaster sprint.
> - Approved budget of EUR 3300 (max EUR 5000) to organize a BSP at
>   Paris, France.
> - Approved budget of EUR 1000 for 10th Debian Groupware Meeting
>   (sprint).
> 
> In other news, SPI recently published a treasurer reports for 2016
> [6]. I wanted to thank them for their efforts!
> 
> [6] http://www.spi-inc.org/treasurer/reports/
> 
> 
> Day-to-day log
> ==
> My day-to-day log of DPL activities is available on master.debian.org:
> - /srv/leader/news/bits-from-the-DPL.txt.201701
> - /srv/leader/news/bits-from-the-DPL.txt.201702
> 
> Cheers,
> 
Hello. If I want to organize a Bug Squashing Party in my city, it could
be in any month before July 2017? Thanks and regards.

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Re: Bits from the DPL -- January-February 2017

2017-03-12 Thread jathan 
On 12/03/17 01:14, Mehdi Dogguy wrote:
> Dear fellow developers,
> 
> Here is my report for January and February 2017.
> 
> 
> Stretch Freeze
> ==
> 
> As planned, the Release Team announced the freeze of Stretch [1]. It
> is now our turn to squash bugs and help them to make the release!
> 
> [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2017/02/msg1.html
> 
> As a reminder, I have announced in [2] that I am willing to reimburse
> up to USD 100 (or equivalent in your local currency) for your travel
> and accommodation expenses for participating in Bug Squashing Parties.
> 
> [2] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2016/12/msg1.html
> 
> I am aware of the following BSPs:
> - https://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2017/03/de/credativ (17-19 March in Germany)
> - https://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2017/03/br/Curitiba (18-19 March in Brazil)
> - https://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2017/05/fr/Paris/Announcement (13-14 May
>   in France)
> - https://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2017/05/ch/Zurich (5-7 May in Switzerland)
> 
> If there are no Bug Squashing Parties next to your city, can you
> organize one?
> 
> It is also time to start documenting "The most exciting new things in
> Stretch"! If you have ideas, please submit them to the Release Team
> for inclusion in the release announcement.
> 
> Other ways to help include testing upgrades and installations and
> filing reports for experienced issues.
> 
> Last but not least, if your package is affected by an RC-bug and you
> do not have time or the skills to fix it, please consider tagging it
> with “help” so that other bug squashers can help you.
> 
> 
> DebConf Committee
> =
> 
> It was my pleasure to announce [3] the creation of the DebConf
> Committee as an official team of the Debian project.
> 
> [3] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2017/01/msg3.html
> 
> This new delegation officially deprecates the former delegation
> made for DebConf Chairs and which is no longer valid.
> 
> Unlike DebConf Chairs, the DebConf Committee's role is twofold:
> 
> 1) Organize the bid process and make final decisions about who will
>organize DebConf;
> 
> 2) Provide support to DebConf team and share their experience of
>DebConf organization.
> 
> As last resort, the DebConf Committee has a special power and can
> override specific decisions in the context of DebConf organization.
> 
> Recently, the DebConf Committee reached their first decision and
> announced [4] DebConf18 will be hosted in Hsinchu, Taiwan.
> 
> [4] https://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20170215.171536.9b1203f9.en.html
> 
> 
> Roadmap
> ===
> 
> During DebConf16, I have gathered a list of potential volunteers for
> the roadmap team or people generally interested in the idea of a
> roadmap for Debian.
> 
> Recently, I have tried to start a discussion [5] about organizational
> aspects of this new activity. Everyone is more than welcome if you
> want to join the discussion!
> 
> [5] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debian-roadmap/
> 
> After Stretch's release, a discussion with a wider audience will take
> place.
> 
> 
> Assets
> ==
> - Approved expense of CAD 185.11 to buy the cloth for on-site
>   accommodation for DebConf17.
> - Approved expense of USD 1040 for two Debian contributors to attend
>   and give a talk at FOSSASIA 2017.
> - Approved budget of EUR 750 for listmaster sprint.
> - Approved budget of EUR 3300 (max EUR 5000) to organize a BSP at
>   Paris, France.
> - Approved budget of EUR 1000 for 10th Debian Groupware Meeting
>   (sprint).
> 
> In other news, SPI recently published a treasurer reports for 2016
> [6]. I wanted to thank them for their efforts!
> 
> [6] http://www.spi-inc.org/treasurer/reports/
> 
> 
> Day-to-day log
> ==
> My day-to-day log of DPL activities is available on master.debian.org:
> - /srv/leader/news/bits-from-the-DPL.txt.201701
> - /srv/leader/news/bits-from-the-DPL.txt.201702
> 
> Cheers,
> 
Hello. If I want to organize a Bug Squashing Party in my city, it could
be in any month before July 2017? Thanks and regards.

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Re: Post-stretch mass bug filing: build-depending on automake1.11

2017-03-12 Thread Eric Dorland 
Hi Simon,

* Simon McVittie (s...@debian.org) wrote:
> Most packages in Debian that run autoreconf currently build-depend
> directly or indirectly on automake (version 1.14.1 in jessie, released
> 2013; version 1.15 in stretch/sid, released in 2015). However, 58
> packages in sid still build with automake1.11, released in 2009. This
> doesn't seem desirable for buster.
>
> I am *not* planning to report these bugs as RC, unless the release team
> or the automake1.11 maintainer want to remove automake1.11 from
> buster entirely (if so, please let me know).

Thanks for looking at this! As I've done a few times in the past I was
also planning to do a mass bug filing to remove automake1.11. I don't
think it rises to the level of RC but it would still be great to get
it all fixed up for buster. Usually posting patches and a few NMUs are
enough to move things along.

You're very welcome to kicking off the mass bug filing if you're
interested though :)

> Most of the packages that I've glanced at so far seem to have moved
> from an ancient version (often automake1.4 or automake1.9) to 1.11.
> In the past, Automake had a tendency to break compatibility
> between minor releases, making it desirable to lock the build system
> to the specific version that upstream used. However, recent versions
> have been queueing up incompatible changes for 2.0 instead (as
> described in the Automake 1.14 release notes,
> )
> so maybe many of these packages can track 1.x indefinitely?
> 
> A dd-list follows, generated by:
> 
> grep-dctrl -FBuild-Depends,Build-Depends-Arch,Build-Depends-Indep \
> automake1.11 \
> /var/lib/apt/lists/deb.debian.org_debian_dists_sid_*_source_Sources \
> | dd-list --dctrl
> 
> Nothing seems to have a runtime dependency on automake1.11, at least
> not on amd64 or i386. A couple of these packages build-depend on
> automake (>= 1.11) | automake1.11, but to be honest they'd probably be
> better off with just automake (>= 1.11) anyway, so I haven't filtered
> those out.
> 
> Regards,
> S
> 
>  dd-list of affected packages 
> 
> Adrian Knoth 
>jack-audio-connection-kit (U)
> 
> Andrew Lee (李健秋) 
>scim-chewing (U)
> 
> Andy Spencer 
>aweather (U)
> 
> Anibal Monsalve Salazar 
>libnfsidmap
> 
> Barry deFreese 
>qonk (U)
> 
> Ben Armstrong 
>xpilot-ng
> 
> Bill Allombert 
>libjpeg6b
>libjpeg8
> 
> ChangZhuo Chen (陳昌倬) 
>scim-chewing (U)
> 
> Christoph Egger 
>warzone2100 (U)
> 
> Chrysostomos Nanakos 
>tcpstat
> 
> Chuan-kai Lin 
>fam
> 
> Clément Stenac 
>madplay (U)
> 
> Debian Accessibility Team 
>svox
> 
> Debian Games Team 
>qonk
>warzone2100
> 
> Debian Gauche Maintainers 
>gauche
> 
> Debian GCC Maintainers 
>cloog-ppl
> 
> Debian Med Packaging Team 
>trinityrnaseq
> 
> Debian Multimedia Maintainers 
> 
>icecast2
>jack-audio-connection-kit
>libshout
>pd-iemmatrix
>unicap
> 
> Debian OCaml Maintainers 
>cairo-ocaml
> 
> Debian PHP Maintainers 
>php7.0
>php7.1
> 
> Debian Printing Team 
>ijs
> 
> Debian QA Group 
>agg
>aumix
> 
> Debian Science Maintainers 
> 
>ann
>aweather
>lhapdf
> 
> Debian Science Team 
>freefem3d
> 
> Debian XMPP Maintainers 
>gsasl
> 
> Emanuele Rocca 
>urlview
> 
> Florian Maier 
>smartmontools (U)
> 
> Free Ekanayaka 
>jack-audio-connection-kit (U)
> 
> Giacomo Catenazzi 
>g15mpd
>libg15render
> 
> Giulio Paci 
>basilisk2 (U)
> 
> Giuseppe Iuculano 
>smartmontools
> 
> Guillaume Pellerin 
>icecast2 (U)
>libshout (U)
> 
> Hakan Ardo 
>avr-libc
>gcc-avr
> 
> HIGUCHI Daisuke (VDR dai) 
>uim
> 
> IME Packaging Team 
>scim-chewing
> 
> IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU) 
>pd-iemmatrix (U)
> 
> Jens Thiele 
>gauche (U)
> 
> Jonas Smedegaard 
>basilisk2
>cstream
>icecast2 (U)
>ijs (U)
>jack-audio-connection-kit (U)
>kannel-sqlbox
>libshout (U)
>pd-iemmatrix (U)
>unicap (U)
> 
> Jonathan Dowland 
>smartmontools (U)
> 
> Jordà Polo 
>exult
> 
> Jorge Salamero Sanz 
>gsasl (U)
> 
> Jose Luis Tallon 
>libsieve
> 
> Junichi Uekawa 
>jack-audio-connection-kit (U)
> 
> Jérémy Lal 
>basilisk2 (U)
> 
> Kiwamu Okabe 
>uim (U)
> 
> Kurt Roeckx 
>madplay (U)
> 
> Lifeng Sun 
>lhapdf (U)
> 
> Lior Kaplan 
>php7.0 (U)
>php7.1 (U)
> 
> Luca Bruno 
>openocd (U)
> 
> Mad Maintainers 
>madplay
> 
> Martín Ferrari 
>qonk (U)
> 
> Marvin Stark 
>syrep
> 
> Mathieu Parent 
>svox (U)
> 
> Matthias Klose 
>cloog-ppl (U)
> 
> Michael Banck 
>exult (U)
> 
> Michael R. Crusoe 
>trinityrnaseq (U)
> 
> Michael Tautschnig 
>cloog-ppl (U)
>diagnostics
> 
> NIIBE Yutaka 
>gauche (U)
> 
> Nobuhiro Iwamatsu 
>uim (U)
> 
> OHASHI Akira 
>liece
> 
> Ondřej Surý 
>php7.0 (U)
>php7.1 (U)
> 
> Paul Wise 
>

Re: Bits from the DPL -- January-February 2017

2017-03-12 Thread Paul Wise 
On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 12:58 AM, jathan wrote:

> Hello. If I want to organize a Bug Squashing Party in my city, it could
> be in any month before July 2017? Thanks and regards.

You can organise a BSP at any time, but obviously before the release
is more helpful to the release :)

-- 
bye,
pabs

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