Re: Debian with HiDPI / 4K displays

[Daniel Pocock]

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On 10/08/15 23:29, Simon Kainz wrote:
> 
> 
> Am 2015-08-09 um 09:22 schrieb Vincent Bernat:
>> ❦  8 août 2015 18:11 -0700, Josh Triplett
>>  :
> 
>>> This handles the majority of programs I use.  A few notable 
>>> exceptions: gitk scales up some but not all of its fonts 
>>> (reported as a bug), Celestia's and stellarium's in-rendering 
>>> text (reported as bugs), old X utilities like 
>>> xcalc/xconsole/xedit/xdvi/xmag/xman/xmessage (not really worth 
>>> reporting, better to replace them with modern tools), and 
>>> anything that relies heavily on toolbars like 
>>> gimp/inkscape/audacity (tools and other UI elements not scaled 
>>> up, since they don't use text; unfortunate but expected, as
>>> they don't have non-integer scaling).
> 
>> I don't have any such problems with Gimp and Inkscape and
>> Xft/DPI set to 144 (both through xrdb and XSETTINGS). All GTK
>> apps are behaving correctly, notably Gimp and Inkscape. It seems
>> GTK is doing complex stuff to determine the scaling to be
>> applied, so many things may influence it. Other apps fail to
>> understand how GTK works and try to emulate it by piling hacks
>> together (notably Chromium).
> 
>> I could show you at Debconf to spot a configuration difference.
> 
> I am also very interested in this (at Debconf), as i own a MacBook
> Pro running Jessie with no problems so far, except some very tiny 
> checkboxes/radiobuttons in firefox and tiny buttons in
> gimp/inkscape.
> 
> Is there probably a Debian/HiDPI wiki/website with information
> about how to set up specific apps under specific Desktop
> Environments?
> 

I just created a page where people could copy in some of the details
from this thread:

https://wiki.debian.org/MonitorDPI


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Bug#795168: ITP: celery-haystack -- utilize Celery for automatic haystack index updates

[Michael Fladischer]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Michael Fladischer 

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* Package name: celery-haystack
  Version : 0.9
  Upstream Author : Jannis Leidel 
* URL : https://github.com/django-haystack/celery-haystack
* License : BSD-3-clause
  Programming Lang: Python
  Description : utilize Celery for automatic haystack index updates

 This Django app allows you to utilize Celery for automatically updating and
 deleting objects in a Haystack search index. It provides a SearchIndex
 subclass and a signal processor to trigger the updates.

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Bug#795174: RFP: tuxemon -- Open source turn-based RPG

[Axel Beckert]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: tuxemon
  Version : 0.2
  Upstream Author : William Edwards ,
Benjamin Bean 
* URL or Web page : http://www.tuxemon.org/
https://github.com/Tuxemon/Tuxemon
* License : GPL-3, CC-BY-SA-3.0
  Programming Lang: Python
  Description : Open source turn-based RPG

Completely open source monster fighting RPG. Capture and battle monsters
against others! Battle friends over the internet and walk around with
them in an open world. Use your phone or tablet as a controller for a
whole new playing experience.


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Bug#795176: ITP: sumaclust -- fast and exact clustering of genomic sequences

[Andreas Tille]

Package: wnpp
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Owner: Andreas Tille 

* Package name: sumaclust
  Version : 1.0.10
  Upstream Author : Céline Mercier 
* URL : http://metabarcoding.org/sumaclust
* License : CeCILL-2
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : fast and exact clustering of genomic sequences
 With the development of next-generation sequencing, efficient tools are
 needed to handle millions of sequences in reasonable amounts of time.
 Sumaclust is a program developed by the LECA. Sumaclust aims to cluster
 sequences in a way that is fast and exact at the same time. This tool
 has been developed to be adapted to the type of data generated by DNA
 metabarcoding, i.e. entirely sequenced, short markers. Sumaclust
 clusters sequences using the same clustering algorithm as UCLUST and CD-
 HIT. This algorithm is mainly useful to detect the 'erroneous' sequences
 created during amplification and sequencing protocols, deriving from
 'true' sequences.

Remark: This package is a predependency to upgrade qiime and will be
maintained by the Debian Med team at
   svn://anonscm.debian.org/debian-med/trunk/packages/sumaclust/trunk/


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Losing keys from known_hosts?

[Thorsten Glaser]

Hi *,

we’ve been seeing a really weird behaviour for a while, as far as we can
tell since some openssh security update?

We’re losing SSH host keys in known_hosts. The entries are there, then,
days or weeks later, they’re no longer there.

We disabled host key hashing, but the effect is still there.

The SSH clients known to show this are wheezy and sid.
The SSH servers known to show this are wheezy and trusty.

I notice that, when ssh’ing to the box and yes’ing the host key, the
entry added is ecdsa-sha2-nistp256 instead of ssh-rsa like all the
others. No idea if this is connected. They do work, for a while.

I also have no idea whether this is reproducible, or, if, how.

This is most annoying on Jenkins systems doing automated SSH, as
it breaks the build there, but it also happens on my workstation
(the sid client system above) which doesn’t have such magic.

As far as I can tell, this is limited to Debian and, possibly,
unnamed derivates thereof.

Does anyone else see this? Is this known?

Thanks in advance,
//mirabilos

Bug#795200: ITP: django-recurrence -- Django utility wrapping dateutil.rrule

[Michael Fladischer]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Michael Fladischer 

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* Package name: django-recurrence
  Version : 1.2.0
  Upstream Author : Tamas Kemenczy 
* URL : https://github.com/django-recurrence/django-recurrence
* License : BSD-3-clause
  Programming Lang: Python
  Description : Django utility wrapping dateutil.rrule

 django-recurrence is a utility for working with recurring dates in Django.
 .
 It provides:
  * Recurrence/Rule objects using a subset of rfc2445 (wraps dateutil.rrule)
for specifying recurring date/times
  * RecurrenceField for storing recurring datetimes in the database
  * a JavaScript widget

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Bug#795204: ITP: jsr-275 -- Java package for the programmatic handling of physical quantities

[Johan Van de Wauw]

Package: wnpp
Owner: Johan Van de Wauw 
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org

* Package name: jsr-275
  Version : 1.0.0-beta1
  Upstream Author : JScience
* URL : http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=275
* License : BSD
  Programming Lang: Java
  Description : JSR-275

JSR-275 specifies Java packages for the programmatic handling of physical
quantities and their expression as numbers of units.

This package was  packaged last year by Jerome Villeneuve-Larouche
 for OSGeo live during a Google summer of
school project. I'll try to bring the package to Debian.

Kind Regards,
Johan


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Bug#795209: ITP: sndio -- Small audio and MIDI framework from OpenBSD

[Peter Piwowarski]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Peter Piwowarski 

* Package name: sndio
  Version : 0.0.10
  Upstream Author : Alexandre Ratchov 
* URL : http://www.sndio.org/
* License : ISC
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : Small audio and MIDI framework from OpenBSD

 Sndio is a small, simple audio and MIDI framework, developed by the OpenBSD
 project. It provides a lighweight audio and MIDI server and a well-documented
 userspace API to access the server or audio hardware in a uniform way. Sndio is
 designed to work well for both desktop and professional music applications, and
 supports features found in more complex sound systems such as per-application
 volume control, software mixing, and network transparency.

 Lots of software in Debian has native support for sndio already (mpv and SDL2,
 to give two examples), and it's also useful for development work and
 interoperability with OpenBSD.


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Re: Bug#795209: ITP: sndio -- Small audio and MIDI framework from OpenBSD

[Simon McVittie]

On 11/08/15 20:26, Peter Piwowarski wrote:
>  Sndio is a small, simple audio and MIDI framework, developed by the OpenBSD
>  project.

You'll probably need to coordinate with the roaraudio maintainer over
who provides /usr/lib/*/libsndio.so.2. At the moment roaraudio provides
libsndio2 from libroar-compat2, and it has previously been linked into
openal-soft via openal-soft's support for sndio
( - openal-soft does not directly
support roaraudio).

S


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Bug#795215: ITP: golang-github-odeke-em-command -- cli subcommands for Golang

[Fernando Ike]

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Severity: wishlist
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* Package name: golang-github-odeke-em-command 
  Version : 0.0~git20150727.0.cf17ee2
  Upstream Author : Emmanuel Odeke 
* URL : https://github.com/odeke-em/command
* License : Apache-2.0
  Programming Lang: Go
  Description : cli subcommands for Go
 
 The command is a tiny package that helps you to add cli subcommands to
 your Go program with no effort, and prints a pretty guide if needed.
 .
 This package allows you to use flags package, and provides additional
 parsing for subcommands and subcommand flags.


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Re: Bug#795209: ITP: sndio -- Small audio and MIDI framework from OpenBSD

[Peter Piwowarski]

Simon McVittie wrote:

On 11/08/15 20:26, Peter Piwowarski wrote:

  Sndio is a small, simple audio and MIDI framework, developed by the OpenBSD
  project.

You'll probably need to coordinate with the roaraudio maintainer over
who provides /usr/lib/*/libsndio.so.2. At the moment roaraudio provides
libsndio2 from libroar-compat2, and it has previously been linked into
openal-soft via openal-soft's support for sndio
( - openal-soft does not directly
support roaraudio).

 S

As it happens the "real" sndio packaging (as of upstream's 0.0.10) won't 
want to provide libsndio2, but libsndio6; the shared object it installs 
is /usr/lib/*/libsndio.so.6.0. It will still be a concern to make sure 
any sndio-supporting programs in Debian can work with either sndio or 
RoarAudio's compatibility layer; possibly libroar-compat2 *really* wants 
to provide (and conflict with) libsndio6?



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Re: Debian with HiDPI / 4K displays

[John Goerzen]

On 08/08/2015 01:58 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>
> I recently started using a 4K display with Debian jessie and GNOME shell
>
> The hardware setup was quite straightforward as I chose to buy a new

There is also an understated problem - DPI changing during a session, or
even different monitors having different DPI in a multihead situation.

This seems to be particularly poorly supported, but is rather common. 
My laptop is 1920x1080 in a 12.5" display, with approximately 176DPI. 
The external monitor on its docking station is a more conventional DPI.

There are many questions here:

  * Simplest: When I use one monitor at the time, does the OS do the
right thing with the only enabled display device changes to a device
with a different DPI?  (No, it doesn't; there is no automatic DPI
changing.)
  * Then: Does the OS do the right thing when there are two non-mirrored
devices with differing DPIs?  (Not really)
  * Does the OS do the right thing when a connected device changes
configured resolution, changing DPI?
  * Finally: Does the OS do the right thing when a display is mirrored
across two devices with diverging DPIs?  What even IS the right
thing here?  Probably stick with the DPI of the device that got in
"first".  But what is that device when both an internal and external
display are connected at boot?

(Note: DE here is XFCE)

There are many things that seem to not handle differences in DPI.  Fonts
are just the start.  What about taskbars and taskbar icons, which become
tiny at certain DPIs?  We seem to be using pixel heights in these a lot.

John

> graphics card with 4K support and a relatively new monitor.  The
> graphics card and monitor both support DisplayPort 1.2 so I just hook
> them up with the standard cable.
>
> The graphics card vendor supplies a proprietary driver but everything
> else is currently running using the packages from jessie.
>
> However, I've come up against the DPI issues.
>
> The actual DPI is about 131x137 on a 32" display.
>
> xdpyinfo reports 96x96
>
> It looks like there has been a history of bug reports about DPI in both
> the Xorg server itself and some individual applications.
>
> Some web sites suggested using gnome-tweak-tool to change the window
> scaling factor.  It only appears to accept integer values and changing
> it from the default of 1 to 2 makes the fonts too big.
>
> So, is there any strategy for HiDPI with Debian?  Is a BTS tag needed to
> track such issues perhaps?  Or is it already dealt with in unstable and
> people just have to wait for it?
>
> My general feeling is that the 32" 4K display was a worthwhile purchase
> and it definitely lets me improve my workflow.  For example, I can now
> have all my communication tools (Icedove, IRC and others) arranged in a
> single virtual desktop, none of them overlap each other and I don't have
> to use alt-tab to switch between them.  In another virtual desktop I no
> longer need to run Eclipse at full screen, I can just give it two thirds
> of the screen and use the rest for testing things.  However, all fonts
> are really tiny, they are readable and even pleasant to look at but I
> would probably like to see them just a little bigger.
>
> Regards,
>
> Daniel
>
>

Re: Debian with HiDPI / 4K displays

[Simon McVittie]

On 11/08/15 23:17, John Goerzen wrote:
> There are many things that seem to not handle differences in DPI.  Fonts
> are just the start.  What about taskbars and taskbar icons, which become
> tiny at certain DPIs?  We seem to be using pixel heights in these a lot.

I think we're going in circles now, but to recap, the state-of-the-art
here seems to be the same approach as Apple's "Retina displays": the
desktop environment or runtime chooses a scaling factor (usually an
integer) for "real pixels per logical pixel", and considers most
application-requested pixel sizes to be measured in logical pixels, not
real pixels. Icon rendering, widget rendering with Cairo and so on can
use the real pixels to get sub-logical-pixel resolution, but the layout
is done in terms of logical pixels (and because the scale factor is an
integer, everything is whole-pixel-aligned, so widgets aren't blurred).
CSS has a similar approach, defining a "CSS pixel" (the px unit) to be
one or more real pixels.

I know Gtk and Qt support this; Gtk can do non-integer scale factors
(although they are probably a bad idea), Qt only does integer scale
factors. In the case of Gtk, the scale factor is exposed as a setting in
gnome-tweak-tool.

Font sizes are relative to the scale factor, so if your laptop is really
176dpi and you're using a 2x scale factor, you might set X's DPI value
to around 88 (96 might be close enough).

S


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Re: Debian with HiDPI / 4K displays

[Nikolaus Rath]

On Aug 09 2015, Daniel Pocock  wrote:
> d) there is some concern that not all displays report DPI accurately and
> so it wasn't considered safe to trust the value from the display and so
> people started using the hard-coded values in GNOME at some point in the
> past - is that still a valid argument today though?

No, the argument (at least from the Gnome people) is that DPI (as
reported by xrandr) is a useless metric to determine the proper font
rendering size. Their main argument is that their is no API to report
different DPIs for different screens, and it doesn't factor in things
like the distance of the user from the screen, or simply a user's
preference to have bigger/smaller fonts.

Therefore, they started ignoring X11 dpi completely and added their own
Gnome DPI (which, as far as I know, still doesn't support different DPI
values for different displays).

There is a truly gigantic bugzilla issue about this, but I don't
have the exact URL anymore.

(At some point I suggested to drop the Gnome DPI and instead use a Gnome
DPI scale factor that's applied on top of the X11 DPI but there was
never a response. Most likely the issue is a lot more complicated, or
the bug has become completely useless to because of its size).


Best,
-Nikolaus

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Promoção válida até o dia 12/08/15, descontos somente para os
cursos online, parcelamentos pelo PagSeguro no Cartão de Crédito,
na ato da compra o aluno deverá utilizar e validar o cupom de
desconto (ADVOGADO), antes de finalizar a compra.
Feliz dia do Advogado!!!


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