Re: libre version of iceweasel

2015-06-10 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 12:40:45AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Jun 09, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton  wrote:
> 
> > open question: is there a perceived need to dig into the source code
> > of firefox and, just as was done with google-chrome to create
> > chromium-browser, permanently patch out certain "features"?
> No: I am a grown up and I can choose by myself which features of 
> a software I want to use. No nanny maintainers, please.

This question is not about features, but about the fact that this
effectively incorporates something as default which would otherwise be
frowned upon for something in Debian's "main" repository. "Pocket" is a
non-free service.

Having said that, we do have other packages in main which talk to a
non-free service; e.g., there's some facebookchat plugin for some chat
programs (I forgot which). This is no different.

So while I understand Luke's concern, given Debian's current practices
there is no reason to reject this functionality.

-- 
It is easy to love a country that is famous for chocolate and beer

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Bug#788327: ITP: swiftlang -- Multi-paradigm, compiled programming language

2015-06-10 Thread Sylvestre Ledru
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Sylvestre Ledru 

* Package name: swiftlang
  Version : 2.0
  Upstream Author : Chris Lattner and others
* URL : http://developer.apple.com/swift/
* License : Unknown yet
  Programming Lang: C++
  Description : Multi-paradigm, compiled programming language

As part of the pkg-llvm team, I am planning to package it.
Any contributions are welcome.


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Re: libre version of iceweasel

2015-06-10 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 11:42:19AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 12:40:45AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > On Jun 09, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton  wrote:
> > 
> > > open question: is there a perceived need to dig into the source code
> > > of firefox and, just as was done with google-chrome to create
> > > chromium-browser, permanently patch out certain "features"?
> > No: I am a grown up and I can choose by myself which features of 
> > a software I want to use. No nanny maintainers, please.
> 
> This question is not about features, but about the fact that this
> effectively incorporates something as default which would otherwise be
> frowned upon for something in Debian's "main" repository. "Pocket" is a
> non-free service.
>
> Having said that, we do have other packages in main which talk to a
> non-free service; e.g., there's some facebookchat plugin for some chat
> programs (I forgot which). This is no different.
>
> So while I understand Luke's concern, given Debian's current practices
> there is no reason to reject this functionality.

And even without looking at other packages, iceweasel has had a search
box for years, which defaults to using Google, which is a non-free
service as well, and so are the alternatives that are provided,
including Yahoo, Bing, Amazon and even DDG that many free-software
supporters like to pride themselves of using (although a few parts of
DDG are open-source-y now).

Mike


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Bug#788332: ITP: xfdashboard -- GNOME shell like dashboard for Xfce

2015-06-10 Thread Sean Davis

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Debian Xfce Maintainers 

* Package name: xfdashboard
  Version : 0.4.2
  Upstream Author : Stephan Haller 
* URL : http://archive.xfce.org/src/apps/xfdashboard/
* License : GPL-2+
  Description : GNOME shell like dashboard for Xfce

 xfdashboard provides an overview of applications currently open 
enabling the
 user to switch between different applications. The search feature 
works like

 Xfce's appfinder which makes it convenient to search for and start
 applications.


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Re: Invoking ‘init’ from an init.d script (Wheezy)

2015-06-10 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 12:09:37PM +0200, Alexander Thomas wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Ansgar Burchardt  wrote:
> > On 06/08/2015 10:29 AM, Alexander Thomas wrote:
> >> We
> >> falsely assumed that setting DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive
> >> APT_LISTCHANGES_FRONTEND=none, and using the -y and --force-yes
> >> options, would never invoke terminal-related code.
> >
> > Please be aware that --force-yes makes apt ignore invalid signatures for
> > repositories, cf. https://bugs.debian.org/787174. It is a really unsafe
> > option that should probably not be used in any automated way, though I
> > have seen people do so in several places.
> 
> I know, but this is a closed system and nothing is pulled in from
> external repositories during this automated update. The stuff that is
> included in the local patch repository is thoroughly tested before
> release. Still, enforcing proper signing and getting rid of that
> --force-yes is on our TODO list.

Use --allow-unauthenticated in this case. Or better yet, mark the local
source as [trusted=yes] in sources.list to avoid this prompt without
opening the floodgates entirely.

--force-yes e.g. also disables the 'Do as I say' prompt before
destroying your system^W^W^Wremoving (pseudo) essential packages.


It is on my TODO list to drop the --force-yes flag and replace it with
specialised --allow-* flags 'just' to force users to acknowledge what
it is they are saying yes to. Somehow most people are way more willing
to add --allow-everything than --allow-prostate-exam …


Best regards

David Kalnischkies


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Re: Invoking ‘init’ from an init.d script (Wheezy)

2015-06-10 Thread Alexander Thomas
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:14 PM, David Kalnischkies
 wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 12:09:37PM +0200, Alexander Thomas wrote:
>> I know, but this is a closed system and nothing is pulled in from
>> external repositories during this automated update. The stuff that is
>> included in the local patch repository is thoroughly tested before
>> release. Still, enforcing proper signing and getting rid of that
>> --force-yes is on our TODO list.
>
> Use --allow-unauthenticated in this case. Or better yet, mark the local
> source as [trusted=yes] in sources.list to avoid this prompt without
> opening the floodgates entirely.
>
> --force-yes e.g. also disables the 'Do as I say' prompt before
> destroying your system^W^W^Wremoving (pseudo) essential packages.
>
>
> It is on my TODO list to drop the --force-yes flag and replace it with
> specialised --allow-* flags 'just' to force users to acknowledge what
> it is they are saying yes to. Somehow most people are way more willing
> to add --allow-everything than --allow-prostate-exam …

I think the second highest-rated answer here is one of the reasons for
the popularity of --force-yes:
http://superuser.com/questions/164553/automatically-answer-yes-when-using-apt-get-install
Anyone with sufficient reputation to make comments, may want to add a
remark about --allow-unauthenticated in an attempt to stop people from
shooting at the unsigned mosquito with a bazooka.


Regards,

Alexander


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Re: Invoking ‘init’ from an init.d script (Wheezy)

2015-06-10 Thread Konstantin Khomoutov
On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 15:47:50 +0200
Alexander Thomas  wrote:

[...]
> > --force-yes e.g. also disables the 'Do as I say' prompt before
> > destroying your system^W^W^Wremoving (pseudo) essential packages.
> >
> > It is on my TODO list to drop the --force-yes flag and replace it
> > with specialised --allow-* flags 'just' to force users to
> > acknowledge what it is they are saying yes to. Somehow most people
> > are way more willing to add --allow-everything than
> > --allow-prostate-exam …
> 
> I think the second highest-rated answer here is one of the reasons for
> the popularity of --force-yes:
> http://superuser.com/questions/164553/automatically-answer-yes-when-using-apt-get-install
> Anyone with sufficient reputation to make comments, may want to add a
> remark about --allow-unauthenticated in an attempt to stop people from
> shooting at the unsigned mosquito with a bazooka.

Just did that, thanks for the suggestion.


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Bug#765953: Wifi issues. Firmware package not fixed in testing release

2015-06-10 Thread Acommon LinuxUser

Hi,
I submitted a bug about 8 months ago, but I didn't receive any reply. I 
updated my Debian system to the testing release ("stretch") because a 
new version of the firmware-realtek package has been released for it, 
but it didn't solve the issues.

This is the link to the reported bug:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2014/10/msg00413.html

Since I didn't receive any response I would know if I made some mistake 
in the bug report or if the bug is not related to the firmware package, 
and so I ask to you for a suggestion about the Debian team to which 
forward the bug.



Thanks

Daniele


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Re: Bug#788104: ITP: lfdk -- Linux Firmware Debug Kit - a tool to help debug PCI, IO and memory spaces

2015-06-10 Thread gaffa
It looks like a cool tool. If you need any help, just send me an e-mail.


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