Bug#753293: ITP: r-cran-doparallel -- GNU R foreach parallel adaptor for the parallel package

2014-06-30 Thread Andreas Tille
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Andreas Tille 

* Package name: r-cran-doparallel
  Version : 1.0.8
  Upstream Author : Steve Weston
* URL : http://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/doParallel/
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: R
  Description : GNU R foreach parallel adaptor for the parallel package
 This GNU R package provides a parallel backend for the %dopar% function
 using the parallel package.


Remark: This package is needed to run the test suite of r-bioc-biocparallel.
It is maintained by the Debian Med team at

   svn://anonscm.debian.org/debian-med/trunk/packages/R/r-cran-doparallel/trunk/


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Re: MATE 1.8 has now fully arrived in Debian

2014-06-30 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Thomas Goirand

> +1 for keeping the name which is funny

No, it's not.  It's offensive to those of us who spend time on making
systemd integration in Debian be as good as possible.

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Bug#753294: ITP: r-bioc-biocparallel -- BioConductor facilities for parallel evaluation

2014-06-30 Thread Andreas Tille
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Andreas Tille 

* Package name: r-bioc-biocparallel
  Version : 0.6.1
  Upstream Author : Martin Morgan, Michel Lang, Ryan Thompson
* URL : 
http://bioconductor.org/packages/release/bioc/html/BiocParallel.html
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: R
  Description : BioConductor facilities for parallel evaluation
 This BioConductor package provides modified versions and novel
 implementation of functions for parallel evaluation, tailored to use
 with Bioconductor objects.


Remark: This package is a precondition to upgrade some BioConductor
packages.  It is maintained by the Debian Med team at


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Re: MATE 1.8 has now fully arrived in Debian

2014-06-30 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 10:42:09AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> ]] Thomas Goirand
> 
> > +1 for keeping the name which is funny
> 
> No, it's not.  It's offensive to those of us who spend time on making
> systemd integration in Debian be as good as possible.

It's also offensive to those who think it's possible to work
constructively together even when disagreeing on some things, and who
would like to see a welcoming atmosphere in Debian. The attitude
expressed in the systemd-must-die package name is bad for Debian,
whether you're for or against or neutral about systemd.

When a project the size of Debian makes a decision on a controversial
subject, it is natural, and expected, that there is vigorous debate
about the topic before a decision is reached. After that, however, if
the debate continues, or members of Debian keep trying to fight the
decision, or keep bringing it up over and over again, it hurts the
ability of the project to continue working. If every decision we make
needs to be re-discussed at the whim of any one disgruntled individual
for years to come, nobody's going to have fun.

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Re: MATE 1.8 has now fully arrived in Debian

2014-06-30 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 10:27:49AM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 10:42:09AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> > ]] Thomas Goirand
> > > +1 for keeping the name which is funny

What's funny about an OS stating publicly that a specific piece of Free
software---shipped and installed by default by that very same OS---"must
die"?

If anything, it encourages people to *make* fun of such an OS.

> It's also offensive to those who think it's possible to work
> constructively together even when disagreeing on some things, and who
> would like to see a welcoming atmosphere in Debian. The attitude
> expressed in the systemd-must-die package name is bad for Debian,
> whether you're for or against or neutral about systemd.
> 
> When a project the size of Debian makes a decision on a controversial
> subject, it is natural, and expected, that there is vigorous debate
> about the topic before a decision is reached. After that, however, if
> the debate continues, or members of Debian keep trying to fight the
> decision, or keep bringing it up over and over again, it hurts the
> ability of the project to continue working. If every decision we make
> needs to be re-discussed at the whim of any one disgruntled individual
> for years to come, nobody's going to have fun.

+1
Amen
AOL
Bravo
(etc.)

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Bug#753301: ITP: velvetoptimiser -- automatically optimise Velvet do novo assembly parameters

2014-06-30 Thread Andreas Tille
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Andreas Tille 

* Package name: velvetoptimiser
  Version : 2.2.5
  Upstream Author : Simon Gladman 
* URL : http://bioinformatics.net.au/software.velvetoptimiser.shtml
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : automatically optimise Velvet do novo assembly parameters
 VelvetOptimiser is a multi-threaded Perl script for automatically optimising
 the three primary parameter options (K, -exp_cov, -cov_cutoff) for the Velvet
 de novo sequence assembler.


Remark: This package was prepared by Tim Booth from BioLinux and will be
maintained by the Debian Med team to fully support BioLinux work.  It is
available in SVN at

   svn://anonscm.debian.org/debian-med/trunk/packages/velvetoptimiser/trunk/


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Re: Q: best strategy/tool to select a mirror (explicitly not via proxies like http.debian.net)

2014-06-30 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko

On Sun, 29 Jun 2014, Paul Wise wrote:
> > almost all (...) are in Debian archive ;)
> Good to hear :)

> > we are providing backport builds
> Are you doing that in addition to or instead of providing official
> backports in the wheezy-backports suite?
> http://backports.debian.org/Contribute/

Since questions still follow:  more of "in addition" for various
reasons:

- those are 'automated' backport builds, so whenever uploaded to Debian
  -- uploaded to NeuroDebian.  I consider Debian's backports more
  "thorough" and "involving" (to say -- I would trust them more ;) )

- for all Debian and Ubuntu releases from the same repo (Canonical's
  PPAs are only for Ubuntus, Debian's backports are only for Debians)

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Bug#753321: ITP: node-strip-ansi -- Strip ANSI escape codes

2014-06-30 Thread Andrew Kelley
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Andrew Kelley 
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org

* Package name: node-strip-ansi
  Version : 0.3.0
  Upstream Author : Sindre Sorhus  (
http://sindresorhus.com)
* URL : https://github.com/sindresorhus/strip-ansi
* License : Expat
  Programming Lang: JavaScript
  Description : Strip ANSI escape codes - Node.js module

 strip-ansi is a Node.js module which provides a function to strip ANSI
escape
 codes from a string.
 .
 Node.js is an event-based server-side JavaScript engine.


Bug#753326: ITP: node-errno -- libuv errno details exposed

2014-06-30 Thread Andrew Kelley
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Andrew Kelley 
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org

* Package name: node-errno
  Version : 0.1.1
  Upstream Author : Rod Vagg 
* URL : https://github.com/rvagg/node-errno
* License : Expat
  Programming Lang: JavaScript
  Description : libuv errno details exposed - Node.js module

 errno is a Node.js module which exposes more details of libuv errors.
 .
 When you need more details about Node.js errors, errno provides the
mappings
 directly from libuv so you can use them in your code.
 .
 Node.js is an event-based server-side JavaScript engine.


Bug#753327: ITP: node-deferred-leveldown -- Handle delayed-open on LevelDOWN compatible libraries

2014-06-30 Thread Andrew Kelley
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Andrew Kelley 
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org

* Package name: node-deferred-leveldown
  Version : 0.2.0
  Upstream Author : Rod Vagg 
* URL : https://github.com/Level/deferred-leveldown
* License : Expat
  Programming Lang: JavaScript
  Description : Handle delayed-open on LevelDOWN compatible libraries -
Node.js module

 deferred-leveldown is a Node.js module which provides a mock LevelDOWN
 implementation that queues operations while a real LevelDOWN instance is
 being opened.
 .
 DeferredLevelDOWN implements the basic AbstractLevelDOWN API so it can be
 used as a drop-in replacement where LevelDOWN is needed.
 .
 put(), get(), del() and batch() operations are all queued and kept in
memory
 until a new LevelDOWN-compatible object can be supplied.
 .
 The setDb(db) method is used to supply a new LevelDOWN object. Once
received,
 all queued operations are replayed against that object, in order.
 .
 batch() operations will all be replayed as the array form. Chained-batch
 operations are converted before being stored.
 .
 Node.js is an event-based server-side JavaScript engine.


Bug#753329: ITP: node-groove -- bindings to libgroove - generic music player library

2014-06-30 Thread Andrew Kelley
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Andrew Kelley 
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org

* Package name: node-groove
  Version : 2.2.2
  Upstream Author : Andrew Kelley 
* URL : https://github.com/andrewrk/node-groove
* License : Expat
  Programming Lang: JavaScript
  Description : bindings to libgroove - generic music player library -
Node.js module

 This Node.js module provides bindings to libgroove. It contains API to open
 audio files, play them over speakers, transcode to other formats, detect
the
 recommended loudness setting, and calculate acoustid fingerprints.
 .
 Node.js is an event-based server-side JavaScript engine.


Bug#753332: ITP: node-body-parser -- body parsing middleware

2014-06-30 Thread Andrew Kelley
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Andrew Kelley 
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org

* Package name: node-body-parser
  Version : 1.4.3
  Upstream Author : Jonathan Ong  (
http://jongleberry.com)
* URL : https://github.com/expressjs/body-parser
* License : Expat
  Programming Lang: JavaScript
  Description : body parsing middleware - Node.js module

 body-parser is a Node.js module which provides connect middleware for
parsing
 HTTP request bodies. It supports JSON and urlencoded formats and does not
 support multipart requests.
 .
 Node.js is an event-based server-side JavaScript engine.


Bug#753351: ITP: node-levelup -- Fast & simple storage - a Node.js-style LevelDB wrapper

2014-06-30 Thread Andrew Kelley
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Andrew Kelley 
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org

* Package name: node-levelup
  Version : 0.18.5
  Upstream Author : Rod Vagg 
* URL : https://github.com/rvagg/node-levelup
* License : Expat
  Programming Lang: JavaScript
  Description : Fast & simple storage - a Node.js-style LevelDB wrapper

 LevelDB is a simple key/value data store built by Google, inspired by
BigTable.
 It's used in Google Chrome and many other products. LevelDB supports
arbitrary
 byte arrays as both keys and values, singular get, put and delete
operations,
 batched put and delete, bi-directional iterators and simple compression
using
 the very fast Snappy algorithm.
 .
 LevelUP aims to expose the features of LevelDB in a Node.js-friendly way.
All
 standard Buffer encoding types are supported, as is a special JSON
encoding.
 LevelDB's iterators are exposed as a Node.js-style readable stream a
matching
 writeable stream converts writes to batch operations.
 .
 LevelDB stores entries sorted lexicographically by keys. This makes
LevelUP's
 ReadStream interface a very powerful query mechanism.
 .
 Node.js is an event-based server-side JavaScript engine.


Bug#753354: ITP: node-level-packager -- helper for distributing leveldown-compatible back-end - Node.js module

2014-06-30 Thread Andrew Kelley
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Andrew Kelley 
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org

* Package name: node-level-packager
  Version : 0.18.0
  Upstream Author : Rod Vagg 
* URL : https://github.com/Level/level-packager
* License : Expat
  Programming Lang: JavaScript
  Description : helper for distributing leveldown-compatible back-end -
Node.js module

 level-packager exports single function which takes a single argument, a
 LevelDOWN-API compatible storage back-end for LevelUP. The function returns
 a constructor function that will bundle LevelUP with the given LevelDOWN
 replacement. The full API is supported, including all optional arguments,
 repair(), delete() and copy(). See level, level-hyper or level-lmdb as
example
 use-cases.
 .
 Also available is a test.js file that can be used to verify that the
 user-package works as expected.
 .
 Node.js is an event-based server-side JavaScript engine.


Re: Sources licensed under PHP License and not being PHP are not distributable

2014-06-30 Thread Faidon Liambotis

On 06/26/14 14:00, Ondřej Surý wrote:

I did have a quite long and extensive chat with FTP Masters
and our conclusion was that PHP License (any version) is
suitable only for software that comes directly from "PHP Group",
that basically means only PHP (src:php5) itself.


This issue reached Planet today, making this even more visible and 
embarassing to the project, IMO.


Unless I'm mistaken, I don't see any emails from any of the FTP masters 
on the matter and we've only been informed about a "long and extensive 
chat" with them that had the end result of the mass bug filling. The 
exact reasoning behind this is still unknown to me and I think this 
whole chat happened in private -- if not, pointers are welcome.


The only think that we /do/ have is a short paragraph from the REJECT 
FAQ which a) was documented a long time ago, b) is inaccurate for 3.01 
(the "includes the Zend Engine part") and c) has been consistently 
ignored in NEW reviews for almost a decade.


Can we get an official word from the ftp-masters and have this 
discussion in public, please?


Thanks,
Faidon


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Bug#753359: ITP: node-level -- convenience package bundling LevelUP & LevelDOWN

2014-06-30 Thread Andrew Kelley
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Andrew Kelley 
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org

* Package name: node-level
  Version : 0.18.0
  Upstream Author : Rod Vagg 
* URL : https://github.com/Level/level
* License : Expat
  Programming Lang: JavaScript
  Description : convenience package bundling LevelUP & LevelDOWN -
Node.js module

 This is a convenience package that bundles the current release of LevelUP
and
 LevelDOWN and exposes LevelUP on its export.
 .
 Use this package to avoid having to explicitly install LevelDOWN when you
just
 want plain old LevelDB from LevelUP.
 .
 Node.js is an event-based server-side JavaScript engine.


Re: Sources licensed under PHP License and not being PHP are not distributable

2014-06-30 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jun 30, Faidon Liambotis  wrote:

> Can we get an official word from the ftp-masters and have this discussion in
> public, please?
+1

I am ready to explore every available option to make sure that the next 
release will not be useless for my customers (hence forcing me to 
install/migrate hundreds of servers to Ubuntu). (And I even hate PHP.)

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Re: Sources licensed under PHP License and not being PHP are not distributable

2014-06-30 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from md's message of 2014-06-30 13:43:59 -0700:
> On Jun 30, Faidon Liambotis  wrote:
> 
> > Can we get an official word from the ftp-masters and have this discussion in
> > public, please?
> +1
> 
> I am ready to explore every available option to make sure that the next 
> release will not be useless for my customers (hence forcing me to 
> install/migrate hundreds of servers to Ubuntu). (And I even hate PHP.)
> 

Ubuntu would follow suit I think. It would be too much of a burden to
carry all of that without Debian maintainer assistance.


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Re: Sources licensed under PHP License and not being PHP are not distributable

2014-06-30 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jun 30, Clint Byrum  wrote:

> Ubuntu would follow suit I think. It would be too much of a burden to
> carry all of that without Debian maintainer assistance.
If manpower is a problem for them then I expect that they would keep at 
least the handful of critically important extensions, or they would lose 
too much market share.

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Re: Sources licensed under PHP License and not being PHP are not distributable

2014-06-30 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from md's message of 2014-06-26 16:54:11 -0700:
> On Jun 26, Clint Byrum  wrote:
> 
> > Oh good, another discussion where we argue against our principles. I
> And which principles would be that, exactly?
> 

https://www.debian.org/social_contract

Specifically, we won't hide problems and Debian will remain 100% free.

Unless I'm mistaken, the wording in the PHP license makes it invalid for
anybody that isn't actually the PHP project to use without making a
false claim that "THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE PHP DEVELOPMENT
TEAM".

It is also GPL incompatible due to restrictions it places on the
licensee's activities and the word PHP.

> > If anyone has a better way to safeguard those to whom we distribute
> > software, please do speak up about it.
> I suggest mimicking distributions that have real money and real lawyers, 
> since probably they have a better idea than we do about the legal risks 
> for themselves and their users.
>

That's quite the opposite of what I would suggest. Such distributions
may actually feel that they can withstand any damages that PHP/Zend can
claim against them, and their brands depend on them taking care of their
end users, but even if they didn't, they could also absorb any damage
those users could claim.

However, our users may not have deep pockets and are trusting Debian to
uphold the social contract and only distribute 100% free software. We're
in quite a different role than distros with real money and lawyers.

Anyway, I hope my original message wasn't lost: "Let's solve this
without compromising our principles." Not "let's act blindly."


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Re: Sources licensed under PHP License and not being PHP are not distributable

2014-06-30 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from md's message of 2014-06-30 14:18:15 -0700:
> On Jun 30, Clint Byrum  wrote:
> 
> > Ubuntu would follow suit I think. It would be too much of a burden to
> > carry all of that without Debian maintainer assistance.
> If manpower is a problem for them then I expect that they would keep at 
> least the handful of critically important extensions, or they would lose 
> too much market share.
> 

Or perhaps they'd use what little manpower they do have available to
approach upstreams about correcting the false statements their license
makes and becoming GPL compatible.

If we act quickly and get the critical ones fixed, nobody will care
about the others and they'll follow suit if they want back in Debian.


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Re: Sources licensed under PHP License and not being PHP are not distributable

2014-06-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, June 30, 2014 14:11:33 Clint Byrum wrote:
> Excerpts from md's message of 2014-06-30 13:43:59 -0700:
> > On Jun 30, Faidon Liambotis  wrote:
> > > Can we get an official word from the ftp-masters and have this
> > > discussion in public, please?
> > 
> > +1
> > 
> > I am ready to explore every available option to make sure that the next
> > release will not be useless for my customers (hence forcing me to
> > install/migrate hundreds of servers to Ubuntu). (And I even hate PHP.)
> 
> Ubuntu would follow suit I think. It would be too much of a burden to
> carry all of that without Debian maintainer assistance.

As far as I know, the only case where Ubuntu deviates from Debian regarding 
license policy is that it allows GFDL invariant.  I doubt it would be different 
here.

Scott K


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Re: Sources licensed under PHP License and not being PHP are not distributable

2014-06-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 02:22:22PM -0700, Clint Byrum wrote:
> Excerpts from md's message of 2014-06-26 16:54:11 -0700:
> > On Jun 26, Clint Byrum  wrote:

> > > Oh good, another discussion where we argue against our principles. I
> > And which principles would be that, exactly?

> https://www.debian.org/social_contract

> Specifically, we won't hide problems and Debian will remain 100% free.

> Unless I'm mistaken, the wording in the PHP license makes it invalid for
> anybody that isn't actually the PHP project to use without making a
> false claim that "THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE PHP DEVELOPMENT
> TEAM".

> It is also GPL incompatible due to restrictions it places on the
> licensee's activities and the word PHP.

PHP as a whole is GPL-incompatible and this won't change; and GPL
compatibility is a non-issue for interpreted languages.  So this last bit
isn't really relevant here.

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Re: Sources licensed under PHP License and not being PHP are not distributable

2014-06-30 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steve Langasek's message of 2014-06-30 14:39:03 -0700:
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 02:22:22PM -0700, Clint Byrum wrote:
> > Excerpts from md's message of 2014-06-26 16:54:11 -0700:
> > > On Jun 26, Clint Byrum  wrote:
> 
> > > > Oh good, another discussion where we argue against our principles. I
> > > And which principles would be that, exactly?
> 
> > https://www.debian.org/social_contract
> 
> > Specifically, we won't hide problems and Debian will remain 100% free.
> 
> > Unless I'm mistaken, the wording in the PHP license makes it invalid for
> > anybody that isn't actually the PHP project to use without making a
> > false claim that "THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE PHP DEVELOPMENT
> > TEAM".
> 
> > It is also GPL incompatible due to restrictions it places on the
> > licensee's activities and the word PHP.
> 
> PHP as a whole is GPL-incompatible and this won't change; and GPL
> compatibility is a non-issue for interpreted languages.  So this last bit
> isn't really relevant here.
> 

This is about extensions, so it is entirely likely that extensions want
to link to GPL and LGPL libraries where PHP itself does not.


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Re: Sources licensed under PHP License and not being PHP are not distributable

2014-06-30 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jun 30, Clint Byrum  wrote:

> > > Oh good, another discussion where we argue against our principles. I
> > And which principles would be that, exactly?
> https://www.debian.org/social_contract
> Specifically, we won't hide problems and Debian will remain 100% free.
We would first need to acknowledge that such a problem exists.

> Unless I'm mistaken, the wording in the PHP license makes it invalid for
> anybody that isn't actually the PHP project to use without making a
> false claim that "THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE PHP DEVELOPMENT
> TEAM".
The fact that ~nobody else believes this, the authors of these 
extentions among them, indeed suggests that you are mistaken.

Here you can see the php-memcache upstream clarifying that they consider 
you wrong and that they are not going to change the license: 
https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=67517 .
This is one of the critically important extensions.

> It is also GPL incompatible due to restrictions it places on the
> licensee's activities and the word PHP.
I do not think that this is being contended.

> > I suggest mimicking distributions that have real money and real lawyers, 
> > since probably they have a better idea than we do about the legal risks 
> > for themselves and their users.
> That's quite the opposite of what I would suggest. Such distributions
> may actually feel that they can withstand any damages that PHP/Zend can
> claim against them, and their brands depend on them taking care of their
> end users, but even if they didn't, they could also absorb any damage
> those users could claim.
Sorry, this is not how the real world works: corporations the size of 
Red Hat tend to not knowingly engage in copyright violations or they 
would be destroyed by the punitive damages.
Also, I do not believe that any Linux distributor ever offered an 
indemnifying clause for copyright infringement.
The obvious example here (even if it is about patents and not copyright) 
is Red Hat and mp3 decoders.

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Re: Sources licensed under PHP License and not being PHP are not distributable

2014-06-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 02:45:07PM -0700, Clint Byrum wrote:
> Excerpts from Steve Langasek's message of 2014-06-30 14:39:03 -0700:
> > On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 02:22:22PM -0700, Clint Byrum wrote:
> > > Excerpts from md's message of 2014-06-26 16:54:11 -0700:
> > > > On Jun 26, Clint Byrum  wrote:

> > > > > Oh good, another discussion where we argue against our principles. I
> > > > And which principles would be that, exactly?

> > > https://www.debian.org/social_contract

> > > Specifically, we won't hide problems and Debian will remain 100% free.

> > > Unless I'm mistaken, the wording in the PHP license makes it invalid for
> > > anybody that isn't actually the PHP project to use without making a
> > > false claim that "THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE PHP DEVELOPMENT
> > > TEAM".

> > > It is also GPL incompatible due to restrictions it places on the
> > > licensee's activities and the word PHP.

> > PHP as a whole is GPL-incompatible and this won't change; and GPL
> > compatibility is a non-issue for interpreted languages.  So this last bit
> > isn't really relevant here.

> This is about extensions, so it is entirely likely that extensions want
> to link to GPL and LGPL libraries where PHP itself does not.

It's not LGPL incompatible, it's only GPL incompatible.

And yes, there are PHP extensions that are not distributable in binary form
because of this license.  But relicensing *the extension* changes nothing
about this, they are *still* not redistributable as part of Debian because
they're linking GPL code into PHP which is and will remain GPL-incompatible.

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Bug#753367: general: usb drives automatically mount but user permission is ro

2014-06-30 Thread phasegen
Package: general
Severity: normal

Dear Maintainer,

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-- System Information:
Debian Release: jessie/sid
  APT prefers testing-updates
  APT policy: (500, 'testing-updates'), (500, 'testing')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Foreign Architectures: i386

Kernel: Linux 3.14-1-amd64 (SMP w/8 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.utf8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.utf8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash


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Re: SV: MATE 1.8 has now fully arrived in Debian

2014-06-30 Thread Stefano Rivera
Hi Matthias (2014.06.26_08:38:09_+0200)
> Of these, roughly 20% have switched to systemd. And they apparently did not
> and do not have any problem with it, otherwise we'd hear about it. Here and
> other places. Quite loudly.

Not necessarily.

My laptop won't boot with systemd, although other machines I have will.
I haven't filed a bug, because I haven't had the time to sit down and
learn how to debug systemd booting, and I wouldn't want to file an bug
until I know what's going on...

SR

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virtual machine from USB stick (virt-manager & qemu/kvm)

2014-06-30 Thread Eugene Zhukov
Hello,

I know this question probably doesn't belong to this list, and I tried
debian-user@ first, but didn't get a single response.
I'm trying to create a VM with Windows 7. Is there a way to do that
from USB stick? It is a ~10GB corporate Windows package.

Thanks,
Eugene


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