Re: Misc Developer News (#35)

2014-05-28 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/27/2014 03:08 PM, Jose Luis Rivas wrote:
> I've seen the issue with people sending me emails using Thunderbird in
> Windows, never from another OS

I had the issue myself (and I'm not a Windows user, using Debian stable
on my laptop...), but switching everything away from html (all options,
as it's buried in multiple place which I can't even remember), then
everything works perfectly.

Cheers,

Thomas Goirand (zigo)


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Re: Debian running on handhelds (or for terminals)

2014-05-28 Thread patrick295767 patrick295767
Dear Wookey, and Dear Colleagues,

2013-08-27 1:29 GMT+02:00 Wookey :
> +++ patrick295767 patrick295767 [2013-08-26 12:34 +0200]:
>>Hello,
>>I wonder what's Debian position in regards to installations on Handhelds.
>>Over the years, I have installed/contributed in installing Debian on
>>various handheld machines, including�for instance HP Jornadas (Sarge -
>>archive), Psion Revo, Psion 5mx, ... armel, and finally the best of best
>>the Pandora. (The default OS of the Pandora is Angstrom).
>>As shown, Debian can be readily installed on various platforms / machines,
>>even with a very limited hardware.
>
> This is true, although debian installer and kernel supprt for most of
> these machines has been poor/missing.
>
>>My question is as follows:
>>�- Have we missed something? Publicity?�
>>- How to fix that? A temptative...
>
> One very useful resource is the Wiki.debian.org/DebianOn
> pages. There are loads of things Debian will install on that do not
> have a page there, and it would enormously help others.
>
> Debian-installer support is another really useful thing. For a long
> time we were hampered by the fact that parted had no support for
> flash-only devices, and D-I depended on parted. These days nearly
> everything has something that looks like a block device and parted has
> got smarter so this is largely no longer a blocker.
>
> Making stuff 'just work' in D-I and kernel support would be a great
> contribution.
>
>>I believe that Debian shall also propose more packages that are suited to
>>terminals, maybe to show that we can run Debian and have also lightweight
>>fast X11 applications. More publicity on lightweight applications? More
>>terminal applications in our repos?
>>OPIE / GPE (in particular GPE added to our repos) are also a point for
>>having Debian for Handelds.
>
> We've had GPE in debian for may years, but not well-maintained. Taking
> care of that would be great if you are interested in it.
>
>>I believed we might lack of publicity on own easily Debian is installable
>>on handhelds.
>>Debian can be installed very light.
>
> This is true but the results are often less than ideal due to missing
> bits of UI. We could really use people doing _actual work_ to make
> this better. I'd hesitate to recommend it to many users without some
> more work to take off some of the rough edges (unless things have
> improved greatly since last time I looked about a year ago).
>
>>And more recently, how manage with ARMs?�
>>[1]http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/news/linus-torvalds-threatens-to-cut-off-arm
>
> This is old news and has been essentially sorted by linaro (and
> others). The new(ish) multi-device support will make our lives as a
> distro much easier as we don't have to build loads of different
> kernels to get reasonable device coverage.
>
>>Another example on publicity, is our webpage (wiki) is out-dated (well it
>>is difficult to keep all up to date).
>>[2]https://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnHandhelds
>
> It a wiki - please update it.
>

Wiki updating is too much time consuming, however I can give tipps on
how to install on many devices, pda,...

html/php is out of current question currently for me.
I can tell how I install debian by email, and one could update the
page directly.



>
>>I would say that Handhelds (and also older computers) are the future way
>>to go for Debian.
>


Maintaining OPIE would be too much work, and I haven't the sufficient
number of  hours for such a large project.



> Well, one aspect. Many of us still want to use it on new and
> non-mobile hardware too, but I agree it is underappreciated in this
> area, and it's an increasingly important area.
>
> This stuff is co-ordinated on the debian-mobile list. Please join
> there if you haven't already. We could really use more people doing
> actual work to make things better - much of which isn't actually hard
> (updating wiki pages, flash-kernel and D-I support for more devices,
> updating handheld-relevant packages).


I would be very pleased to help and contribute even more Debian.

>
> Lots of people are 'interested' in this are, but I'm not aware of much
> actual work being done. A bit of action could well generate quite a
> lot more interest.



If you would like, Wookey, I could give you debs for some of the
applications from nframe-os, as a contrib or non-free.

You can check the wide array of applications based on ncurses and
nframe-os. nframe-os is extremely tiny (lightweight), since it
requires only ncurses and almost no libs (just few, e.g.
signal,netbase). It does everything itself (which demanded many years
of dev).  There are really a bunch applications and actually very nice
ones. http://ncursespim.scienceontheweb.net/nframe-os.htm


If you are interested, I would like also to maintain xlockmore
(version 5.37). I would like to have a deb for testing/sid (or stable
someday) since in my opinion, xlockmore is 

Bug#749546: marked as done (general: No trackpad on Toshiba CB35 Chromebook Debian Jessie)

2014-05-28 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Wed, 28 May 2014 12:00:23 +0200
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and subject line Re: Bug#749546: general: No trackpad on Toshiba CB35 
Chromebook Debian Jessie
has caused the Debian Bug report #749546,
regarding general: No trackpad on Toshiba CB35 Chromebook Debian Jessie
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Trackpad does not work on a Toshiba Chromebook cb35 on Debian Jessie.  

Tried the script at: pastebin.com/2GQnyMLT (via: 
blogs.fsfe.org/the_unconventional/2014/04/20/acer-c720-chromebook-debian-gnu-linux/
 )
with no success.


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Hi,

On Mittwoch, 28. Mai 2014, roger wrote:
> Trackpad does not work on a Toshiba Chromebook cb35 on Debian Jessie.
> 
> Tried the script at: pastebin.com/2GQnyMLT (via:
> blogs.fsfe.org/the_unconventional/2014/04/20/acer-c720-chromebook-debian-g
> nu-linux/ ) with no success.

sorry, but this is not a general bug in Debian and the BTS is not 
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ - thus closing this bug.

If you want to try again, please file a bug using "/usr/bin/reportbug" against 
the src:linux package.


cheers,
Holger


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Bug#749579: ITP: virtualjaguar -- Cross-platform Atari Jaguar emulator

2014-05-28 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz 

* Package name: virtualjaguar
  Version : 2.1.0
  Upstream Author : James Hammons 
* URL : http://icculus.org/virtualjaguar/
* License : GPL-3, Public Domain
  Programming Lang: C, C++
  Description : Cross-platform Atari Jaguar emulator

Virtual Jaguar is a cross-platform emulator for Atari's infamous
Jaguar console, the last video game system to ever released by
the now defunct company. The Jaguar was marketed as the first
64-bit video game system despite the fact that it was actually
a 32-bit system at heart, just the blitter operated in 64-bit
mode. The system was a commercial failure and eventually lead
to Atari leaving the market for video game systems.

This emulator features an intuitive user interface and emulation
of all of the major subsystems of the Atari Jaguar console. This
includes full GPU and DSP emulation as well as emulation of the
Atari Jaguar CD. Most of the commercial Atari games are supported,
albeit some of them have some minor glitches when running in the
emulator.


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Bug#749594: ITP: python-wrapt -- decorators, wrappers and monkey patching

2014-05-28 Thread Thomas Goirand
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Thomas Goirand 

* Package name: python-wrapt
  Version : 1.8.0
  Upstream Author : Graham Dumpleton 
* URL : https://github.com/GrahamDumpleton/wrapt
* License : BSD-2-clause
  Programming Lang: Python
  Description : decorators, wrappers and monkey patching

 The aim of the wrapt module is to provide a transparent object proxy for
 Python, which can be used as the basis for the construction of function
 wrappers and decorator functions.
 .
 The wrapt module focuses very much on correctness. It therefore goes way
 beyond existing mechanisms such as functools.wraps() to ensure that decorators
 preserve introspectability, signatures, type checking abilities etc. The
 decorators that can be constructed using this module will work in far more
 scenarios than typical decorators and provide more predictable and consistent
 behaviour.
 .
 To ensure that the overhead is as minimal as possible, a C extension module is
 used for performance critical components. An automatic fallback to a pure
 Python implementation is also provided where a target system does not have a
 compiler to allow the C extension to be compiled.

This is yet-another-dependency for OpenStack (for next release: Juno).


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Re: Misc Developer News (#35)

2014-05-28 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Thomas Goirand (2014-05-28 10:20:44)
> On 05/27/2014 03:08 PM, Jose Luis Rivas wrote:
> > I've seen the issue with people sending me emails using Thunderbird in
> > Windows, never from another OS
> 
> I had the issue myself (and I'm not a Windows user, using Debian 
> stable on my laptop...), but switching everything away from html (all 
> options, as it's buried in multiple place which I can't even 
> remember), then everything works perfectly.

On Debian stable, running the wizard and accepting the recommended 
settings does that.


 - Jonas

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Bug#748556: SOLVED - System will now SHUTDOWN when asked

2014-05-28 Thread Jim Cobley
OK - no input on this thread but after a couple of days of intermittent 
searching and fiddling we got there - we shouldn't have had to but there 
we go.


Problems shown above with gdm3 and lightdm were actually fixed with 2 or 
3 more switches between gdm3 and lightdm with reboots - that was all it 
needed but why 1 didn't do it I know not!!

I am now running gdm3

The shutdown issue has been discussed for YEARS and I tried one of the 
solutions:-


Install systemd and systemd-sysvcompat (on my system systemd was already 
there but that wasn't enough)

During grub boot - select the system you want to boot up
Press "e" to edit the startup details
Add init=/bin/systemd to the GRUB DEFAULT line

Bingo - until someone breaks that


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Bug#748556: marked as done (general: Power Off does not work)

2014-05-28 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Wed, 28 May 2014 21:11:02 +0200
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Dear Maintainer,

Since update/upgrade of Jessie on or about 14th May:-
Select menu "Power Off" - dialogue Cancel/Restart/PowerOff appears.
Select "Power Off" very little appears to happen all tasks continue to run and
new tasks can be started.

Enter "shutdown now" command - system closes down and stops - shows "INIT_ no
more processes left in this runlevel". Does not power down

Running uGet to download files overnight with option to "Shutdown when
complete" appears to do the right thing and the system is powered off in the
morning.



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Hi,

as indicated per subject of last mail from the submitter, I'm closing this 
bug.


cheers,
Holger


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patch-tracker down?

2014-05-28 Thread Hideki Yamane
Hi,

 Recent this 2 or 3 days patch-tracker.d.o seems to be down.
 Is it intended one?

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Re: patch-tracker down?

2014-05-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 5:39 AM, Hideki Yamane wrote:

>  Recent this 2 or 3 days patch-tracker.d.o seems to be down.
>  Is it intended one?

The maintainer of this service is MIA and didn't respond to the Debian
sysadmins' requests to move it to another host running wheezy.
Consequently it is down until someone volunteers to be the new
maintainer.

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