Re: Location for Fortran90 module files

2013-07-26 Thread Matthias Klose
Am 25.07.2013 14:25, schrieb Michael Banck:
> What to do about the compatibilty is a different matter, did this come
> up before?

looks like one hand in the debian-science team doesn't know what the other hands
are doing ...

See #714730, even on the debian-science ML.


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Re: Location for Fortran90 module files

2013-07-26 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Matthias,

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 02:37:15PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
> Am 25.07.2013 14:25, schrieb Michael Banck:
> > What to do about the compatibilty is a different matter, did this come
> > up before?
> 
> looks like one hand in the debian-science team doesn't know what the other 
> hands
> are doing ...
> 
> See #714730, even on the debian-science ML.

Thanks for the information.

BTW, it would have been perceived even without the unfriendly tenor.  In
case you might not know the team is maintaining a wide range of packages
and so there is not always a need to know about specific Fortran issues.
It even might happen that not everybody does read each mail on the list.

Kind regards

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Re: Location for Fortran90 module files

2013-07-26 Thread Matthias Klose
Am 26.07.2013 15:35, schrieb Andreas Tille:
> BTW, it would have been perceived even without the unfriendly tenor.  In
> case you might not know the team is maintaining a wide range of packages
> and so there is not always a need to know about specific Fortran issues.

well, apparently you did perceive it as unfriendly.  However in the past I did
point out many issues with (unaddressed) build failures for packages maintained
by the -science (and the -med) team, which didn't get any feedback.  Which I do
perceive as unfriendly.  So apparently this team does have a size where it
cannot manage the maintained packages any more, or where not everybody in the
team is interested in every package.  Other teams do have this problem too
(which form my point of view is a problem).  Sorry, but it is not the first time
that I see this with the -science team.

> It even might happen that not everybody does read each mail on the list.

well, why not, and who else should be addressed?

  Matthias


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Re: Location for Fortran90 module files

2013-07-26 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Matthias,

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 03:55:18PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
> Am 26.07.2013 15:35, schrieb Andreas Tille:
> > BTW, it would have been perceived even without the unfriendly tenor.  In
> > case you might not know the team is maintaining a wide range of packages
> > and so there is not always a need to know about specific Fortran issues.
> 
> well, apparently you did perceive it as unfriendly.  However in the past I did
> point out many issues with (unaddressed) build failures for packages 
> maintained
> by the -science (and the -med) team, which didn't get any feedback.

I admit that this might happen to some degree.  I do not agree that this
is an excuse to do some bashing of teams who try their best with the
avialable manpower.  Please note that we tried to pick up packages which
would be orphaned otherwise.  So your situation would not be different
if your requests would be ignored by MIA maintainers instead of no
response from a team mailing list.

> Which I do perceive as unfriendly.

Not getting feedback is for sure frustrating.  I'm not sure whether it
can be called unfriendly if volunteers have set priorities in a way that
they just do not manage to answer what you would call "right in time".

> So apparently this team does have a size where it
> cannot manage the maintained packages any more,

If you are interested you could try to seek the list archive how often I
tried to create more focussed teams in specific sciences.  Even if there
is some agreement you need some volunteer to do the needed work - I guess
you know the principle, right?

> or where not everybody in the team is interested in every package.

Yes.  This is definitely no singularity amongst several teams inside
Debian.  In all teams I know there is some overlap between maintainers
and packages but no full coverage.  IMHO this can not be reached in
teams of volunteers.

> Other teams do have this problem too
> (which form my point of view is a problem).

Do you have a suggestion how to solve this problem?  And what exactly
is the problem?

> Sorry, but it is not the first time
> that I see this with the -science team.

I remember you told me so at all occurences when we met and I'm sure you
will tell me at next DebConf.

> > It even might happen that not everybody does read each mail on the list.
> 
> well, why not, and who else should be addressed?

You did perfectly well to respond to the e-mail from Michael and
providing the information he needed.  I just insist that it is no excuse
for becoming unfriendly to a respected DD and member of several teams if
he has not perceived a detail which for a moment might have seemed
irrelevant for him.

In general I'd like to repeat my advise that in contrast to having a MIA
maintainer where you are not allowed to change a package you can always

dch --team

a Debian Science maintained package if you have a certain problem with
it.  I do not say that you should do all the fixing work - but if you
really want to let something happen sometimes the fastest way to realise
it is to simply do it yourself quickly rather than waiting ages.  I know
that you are perfectly aware how Free Software works and we try to open
the doors for it.  Feel free to take this chance but please stop blaming
people who while trying to do their best fail to cope with your
requirements.

Kind regards

  Andreas.

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Re: [PATCH] netplug - Allow to specify custom script file via param '-s'

2013-07-26 Thread Pali Rohár
On Sunday 21 April 2013 13:23:49 Paul Wise wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > But why Debian cannot review and include this my patch?
> 
> Now is the time for fixing RC bugs, not for including patches,
> please wait until wheezy is released and then give the
> maintainer some time to review it and prepare a new package.

Wheezy was already released. Can anybody look at my patch now?

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Shared memory attack on exponentiation crypto

2013-07-26 Thread Ian Jackson
This paper just came out:
  http://eprint.iacr.org/2013/448.pdf

It's quite exciting, really.  In summary, by running another process
which maps the gnupg executable and plays tricks to detect L3 cache
fills, they can recover the private key used in a gnupg signature
operation.

This is a threat in any multi-user system.  It's also a threat in a VM
scenario if you have a page-sharing system.

I think in Debian our responsibility is at least to try to fix the
multi-user problem.  The simplest way seems to be to avoid having
crypto processes share their pages with other processes.

I wrote a simple function which unshares all of the relevant file
mappings:
   http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/ucgi/~ian/git/map-unshare.git/
It seems to work in the simple test program, for me, on i386.  It's
not threadsafe (and making it threadsafe would be quite tricky).  It's
also Linux-only, but I guess FreeBSD must have ways to do this.

Is trying to plumb this into various crypto executables a reasonable
approach ?  Doing this to ssh, sshd, gpg, etc., would seem quite
straightforward and probably reasonable from a performance point of
view.  (Single-user embedded systems should have a way to turn it
off.)  Web browsers might be a problem because you probably don't want
to unshare the whole of the executable and libraries.

Another possibility would be to try to provide a set of
LD_PRELOAD-based hooks, thus providing a toolkit for retrofitting the
page-unsharing without having to patch and rebuild everything of
interest.

Ian.


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Bug#717926: ITP: swiftsc -- simple client library of OpenStack Swift

2013-07-26 Thread Kouhei Maeda
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Kouhei Maeda 

* Package name: swiftsc
  Version : 0.5
  Upstream Author : Kouhei Maeda 
* URL : https://github.com/mkouhei/swiftsc
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: Python
  Description : simple client library of OpenStack Swift

 This tool is simple client library of OpenStack Swift.
 This tool is intended to be used in the module and Python script other.
 The main purpose of this tool is used as a core module for backup tool.


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Bug#717927: ITP: backup2swift -- backup data to OpenStack Swift

2013-07-26 Thread Kouhei Maeda
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Kouhei Maeda 

* Package name: backup2swift
  Version : 0.8
  Upstream Author : Kouhei Maeda 
* URL : https://github.com/mkouhei/backup2swift
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: Python
  Description : backup data to OpenStack Swift

 This tool is that backup data to OpenStack Swift. provides features are
 command line interface, and backup rotatition. This is depend on swiftsc,
 that is simple client library of OpenStack Swift.


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Bug#717935: ITP: snmpsim -- SNMP agent simulator

2013-07-26 Thread Vincent Bernat
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Vincent Bernat 

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* URL : http://snmpsim.sourceforge.net/
* License : 2-clause BSD
  Programming Lang: Python
  Description : SNMP agent simulator

SNMP Simulator is a software that would act like a multitude of real
physical devices from SNMP Manager's point of view. Simulator builds
and uses a database of physical devices' SNMP footprints to respond
like their real counterparts do.

Typical use case for this software starts with recording a snapshot of
SNMP objects of donor agents into text files. Once you have your
snapshots at hand, a simulator script could be run over the snapshots
responding to SNMP queries in the same way as donor SNMP agents did at
the time of recording.

Technically, SNMP Simulator is a multi-context SNMP agent. That means
that it handles multiple sets of managed object all at once. Each
device is simulated within a dedicated SNMP context.

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Re: Bug#717824: anonscm.debian.org needs a feedback channel

2013-07-26 Thread Thorsten Glaser
anatoly techtonik  gmail.com> writes:

> http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/python-modules/packages/python-pyftpdlib/
trunk/debian/watch?r1=13515&r2=13521

I think that got fixed in a post-release subversion update.
But it can also be worked around by patching FusionForge’s
copy of the ViewVC code. Roland probably knows.

As for footers… dpkg-divert on the .ezt file, edit it to
provide such information?

bye,
//mirabilos (hat: Evolvis/FusionForge developer)


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