Re: Recommend documentation

2013-06-18 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 18 juin 2013 à 00:18 +0200, Salvo Tomaselli a écrit : 
> I have noticed that a number of packages tend to recommend documentation, 
> which is then by default normally installed.
> Is there a policy for that?

I don’t think so, apart from the maintainer’s good judgement as to who
needs the doc.

In the general case, these are useful:
- foo-bin Recommends: foo-user-doc
- libfoo-dev Recommends: foo-api-doc

> Using dpkg I found a number of latex -doc packages installed with 
> recommends for the total size of 694MB.

Isn’t it a good thing? Whenever you do latex, you need the documentation
sometimes.

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Bug#712647: ITP: digitd -- A simple, flexible and safe finger daemon

2013-06-18 Thread Radovan Garabík
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Radovan Garabík" 

* Package name: digitd
  Version : 1.0
  Upstream Author : Reuben Thomas 
* URL : https://github.com/rrthomas/digitd
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : A simple, flexible and safe finger daemon

digitd is ready-to-run out of the box, yet easy to customize. It
allows users to opt in to being fingerable, rather than the usual
opt-out.

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Mail breaks spamassassin

2013-06-18 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hello,

Currently I encountered the mail <20130617170434.ga10...@scru.org>
breaking spamassassin version 3.3.2-2~bpo60+1 on oldstable.

The effect was that I had to disable spamassassin selective for
bendel.debian.org to get the mail.

Anybody similar experiences?

Regards
   Klaus
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Re: Mail breaks spamassassin

2013-06-18 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Klaus Ethgen wrote:

> Currently I encountered the mail <20130617170434.ga10...@scru.org>
> breaking spamassassin version 3.3.2-2~bpo60+1 on oldstable.
>
> The effect was that I had to disable spamassassin selective for
> bendel.debian.org to get the mail.
>
> Anybody similar experiences?

Please file a bug against spamassassin and add some details to it;
what the error message was for example.

http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting

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Re: Mail breaks spamassassin

2013-06-18 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hello,

Am Di den 18. Jun 2013 um 12:45 schrieb Paul Wise:
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> 
> > Currently I encountered the mail <20130617170434.ga10...@scru.org>
> > breaking spamassassin version 3.3.2-2~bpo60+1 on oldstable.
> >
> > The effect was that I had to disable spamassassin selective for
> > bendel.debian.org to get the mail.
> >
> > Anybody similar experiences?
> 
> Please file a bug against spamassassin and add some details to it;
> what the error message was for example.
> 
> http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting

I do not like to use browsers. Especially to report bugs.

However, this is oldstable as you might have read. And the message I
mention was coming over debian-devel list. And I asked if there is
similar experiences _before_ I file a bug. It makes no sense to file a
bug if it is only in oldstable.

Also there was no error message than the spamd did not finished scanning
the message.

Regards
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Re: Mail breaks spamassassin

2013-06-18 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Klaus Ethgen wrote:

>> http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting
>
> I do not like to use browsers. Especially to report bugs.

Likewise, however bug reporting in Debian is only done via email not
via a web browser. You can either use the reportbug program or send
mail manually.

> It makes no sense to file a bug if it is only in oldstable.

It definitely makes sense to file a bug no matter what the suite is,
since this is a security issue (Denial of Service at minimum) and
oldstable currently has security support.

> Also there was no error message than the spamd did not finished scanning
> the message.

There should be an error message listed in syslog.

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Feedback regarding Debian 7.1's handling of services

2013-06-18 Thread Nikolas Kallis

Hello,



When I install software designed to be ran as a service in Debian 7.1 
using dpkg, its gets started automatically. This is dangerous and I 
think this behaviour should be changed to not start the service 
automatically.


Some default settings in software is not suitable for some environments 
software gets installed into I.E: Tor; Postfix.


Also, I think most people generally don't use default settings when 
installing software that runs as a service, so they would need to 
restart the service after configuring it anyway.




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Re: Feedback regarding Debian 7.1's handling of services

2013-06-18 Thread Bastian Blank
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:23:50PM +1000, Nikolas Kallis wrote:
> Some default settings in software is not suitable for some
> environments software gets installed into I.E: Tor; Postfix.

Care to explain? Tor is client-only in the standard config and the
Postfix standard config is safe and suitable for a standalone system.

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Bug#712679: ITP: mrs -- Complete Information Retrieval System for Biomedical databanks

2013-06-18 Thread Maarten L. Hekkelman
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Maarten L. Hekkelman" 

* Package name: mrs
  Version : 6.0.1
  Upstream Author : Maarten L. Hekkelman
* URL : http://mrs.cmbi.ru.nl/
* License : Boost
  Programming Lang: C++, Perl, JavaScript
  Description : Complete Information Retrieval System for Biomedical 
databanks

MRS which stands for Maartens Retrieval System is a complete information 
retrieval system. It comes with all the code necessary to keep a set of 
biological or medial text databanks up-to-date and indexed, allows for fast 
full text searches and can even provide Blast compatible protein searches. Data 
can be accessed using the builtin web application or via webservices.


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Re: Mail breaks spamassassin

2013-06-18 Thread David Prévot
Hi,

Le 18/06/2013 07:45, Paul Wise a écrit :
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> 
>> Currently I encountered the mail <20130617170434.ga10...@scru.org>
>> breaking spamassassin version 3.3.2-2~bpo60+1 on oldstable.

> Please file a bug against spamassassin 

Even for backported stuff? Does the documentation need an update?

http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/#index6h2

Regards

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Re: Recommend documentation

2013-06-18 Thread Salvo Tomaselli

> Isn’t it a good thing? Whenever you do latex, you need the documentation
> sometimes.
I just use the documentation online, so I can search, most of the time my 
problem aren't the options but which package am I supposed to use, so since I 
can't search in the local documentation as easily as I do online, it's not 
that useful for me.


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Re: Mail breaks spamassassin

2013-06-18 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 20:07:09 +0800, Paul Wise  wrote:
>On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
>
>>> http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting
>>
>> I do not like to use browsers. Especially to report bugs.
>
>Likewise, however bug reporting in Debian is only done via email not
>via a web browser. You can either use the reportbug program or send
>mail manually.

Klaus knows that very well, as he is a user of the Debian BTS for
decades.

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system time has change while installing

2013-06-18 Thread Maxim Markov

Hello.

I use  debian-live-7.0.0-amd64-gnome-desktop.
And it has error in Time Zones Settings.
System Time changes during installation. 
It`s possible that date can changes too.

for example: 
when i boot from livecd i change location settings from London to Russia 
(Asia), Krasnoyarsk
and my system time changes from 20:20 to 04:20

example2:
when i install version to hdd my system time changed from 00:50 to 08:50

i suppose that error present in other versions. 
same problem i noticed in Scientific Linux.

i use ROSA Desktop Fresh and looks like it hasn`t error.
in my own apinion: date and time must be stay as it set in local pc, while time 
zones parameters sets in configs.




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Re: Current and upcoming toolchain changes for jessie

2013-06-18 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 01:12:30PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
> Am 13.06.2013 16:46, schrieb Steven Chamberlain:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On 13/06/13 13:51, Matthias Klose wrote:
> >> GCC 4.8 is now the default on all x86 architectures, and on all ARM
> >> architectures (the latter confirmed by the Debian ARM porters).  I did not 
> >> get
> >> any feedback from other port maintainers, so unless this does change and 
> >> port
> >> maintainers get involved with toolchain maintenance, the architectures 
> >> staying
> >> at 4.6 or 4.7 shouldn't be considered for a successful release 
> >> (re-)qualification.
> > 
> > I trust these are the architectures that are okay so far:
> > | gcc48_archs = amd64 armel armhf arm64 i386 x32 kfreebsd-amd64
> > kfreebsd-i386 hurd-i386
> 
> no, they are probably not ok, and there surely are yet undiscovered 
> regressions,
> but at least the ARM porters did agree to address these. Same seems to be true
> for the kfreebsd and hurd porters. They did change GCC defaults usually at the
> same time as this was done for the x86 linux archs.
> 
> > So the following would be the architectures for which some response is
> > requested urgently from port maintainers, to confirm they are ready for
> > GCC 4.8 as default:
> > 
> > Release arches: ia64 mips mipsel powerpc s390 s390x sparc
> > 
> > All the above have built gcc-4.8.1-2 or higher.
> 
> and nobody committing to scan the bts for architecture specific issues, nobody
> to prepare test cases, nobody to forward these.

I did report a few mips/mipsel issue to upstream binutils and gcc, and 
they have all been solved. I am not aware of any reported mips/mipsel 
binutils or gcc-4.{6,7,8} problem reported in the debian BTS, except 
#710683, which is recent and I haven't investigated it yet (but is likely
an OOM issue on the buildd).

Could you please provide me a few pointers?

> > Other ports:  alpha hppa* m68k powerpcspe ppc64 sh4* sparc64*
> > 
> > * these ports don't appear to have successfully built GCC 4.8 yet.
> 
> afaics, alpha, powerpcspe and ppc64 did build.  Note that you cannot trust the
> hppa status, this port is still denied access to ports.debian.org and is kept 
> in
> another place.
> 

hppa porters have ignored my emails during a few years, and then started
to write me during a few more years using an email address that went
to /dev/null, so they never got my answers, and thus never answered me...

This is true that they have recently contacted me through another email
address, but I haven't found time to work on that. Just stay tuned.

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Re: Current and upcoming toolchain changes for jessie

2013-06-18 Thread John David Anglin

Hi Aurelien,

On 18-Jun-13, at 6:05 PM, Aurelien Jarno wrote:

This is true that they have recently contacted me through another  
email

address, but I haven't found time to work on that. Just stay tuned.


That's great news.

Helge and I have been working away as best we can to maintain the  
port.  I

know everybody is busy and this is a significant effort.

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Re: Mail breaks spamassassin

2013-06-18 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:32:20PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> >>> http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting
> >>
> >> I do not like to use browsers. Especially to report bugs.
> >
> >Likewise, however bug reporting in Debian is only done via email not
> >via a web browser. You can either use the reportbug program or send
> >mail manually.
> 
> Klaus knows that very well, as he is a user of the Debian BTS for
> decades.
Why he wrote that then?

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