RFH: two base wheezy bugs

2013-06-16 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

I'm at loss with what to do with #710047. (random freeze since wheezy)

And just closing #708158 ("desktop becomes slower once plugged into power") 
saying "you didnt supply more info" also is not really my prefered move but 
I'm a bit hesistant to just reassign to the tracker package. Maybe I should, 
other ideas welcome.


cheers,
Holger - all our base belongs to us!


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Re: RFH: two base wheezy bugs

2013-06-16 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 16 iun 13, 09:49:41, Holger Levsen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm at loss with what to do with #710047. (random freeze since wheezy)

More information would be nice, redirect to debian-user?
 
> And just closing #708158 ("desktop becomes slower once plugged into power") 
> saying "you didnt supply more info" also is not really my prefered move but 
> I'm a bit hesistant to just reassign to the tracker package. Maybe I should, 
> other ideas welcome.

The submitter has posted a workaround ('options drm_kms_helper poll=N' 
in a file under /etc/modprobe.d/). Reassign to src:linux?

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: RFH: two base wheezy bugs

2013-06-16 Thread Daniel Pocock
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On 16/06/13 10:05, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Du, 16 iun 13, 09:49:41, Holger Levsen wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'm at loss with what to do with #710047. (random freeze since
>> wheezy)
> 
> More information would be nice, redirect to debian-user?
> 
>> And just closing #708158 ("desktop becomes slower once plugged
>> into power") saying "you didnt supply more info" also is not
>> really my prefered move but I'm a bit hesistant to just reassign
>> to the tracker package. Maybe I should, other ideas welcome.
> 
> The submitter has posted a workaround ('options drm_kms_helper
> poll=N' in a file under /etc/modprobe.d/). Reassign to src:linux?
> 

I think there are more opportunities to enhance the bug tracker

708158 is probably serious or critical for anybody with that hardware
and may be a non-issue, impossible to reproduce for anybody else.  It
is lucky that it has been observed elsewhere.  Being able to
systematically link bugs to hardware would be useful, then other
owners of the same hardware would (a) be able to check for outstanding
bugs before upgrading (b) try to reproduce and confirm bugs

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Bug#712478: ITP: gnome-shell-extension-icon-hider -- GNOME Shell's status area icons manager

2013-06-16 Thread Igor Kalnitsky
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Igor Kalnitsky 

* Package name: gnome-shell-extension-icon-hider
  Version : 10-1
  Upstream Author : Name 
* URL : 
https://github.com/ikalnitsky/gnome-shell-extension-icon-hider
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: JavaScript
  Description : GNOME Shell's status area icons manager

Icon Hider for GNOME Shell is a simple extension for managing visibility
of status area icons. For example, you can hide unnecessary icons such
as a11y or battery.

The extension already available on http://extensions.gnome.org, but I
want to build debian package too.

More information can be found on my GitHub
(https://github.com/ikalnitsky/gnome-shell-extension-icon-hider).

Sincerely,
Igor.


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Re: how to deal with "not yet built" / "missing binaries" on autobuilders, requesting transition needed?

2013-06-16 Thread Joost van Baal-Ilić
Hi,

Thanks for your reply, and thanks Adam D. Barratt and Ansgar Burchardt for
helping out on IRC.

On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 09:35:46AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 12:35 AM, Joost van Baal-Ilić wrote:
> 
> > 1) Prepare a better ticcutils 0.4-4 package, which builds libticcutils2
> > and unversioned libticcutils-dev (which Conflicts: libticcutils1-dev,
> > libticcutils2-dev and Replaces: libticcutils1-dev, libticcutils2-dev).

> > 2) Submit a bug to release.debian.org, requesting "transition tracking"
> > (as per http://release.debian.org/transitions/), apologising for previous
> > mistake and requesting an ACK for uploading ticcutils 0.4-4.

Using http://ftp-master.debian.org/cruft-report-daily.txt for inspiration.

> > 3) Once ACK'd, upload and keep an eye on autobuilders
> >
> > Correct?
> 
> Indeed.
> 
> Please ensure that you test the upgrade path using piuparts though.

Working on that now.

Bye,

Joost


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Re: jessie release goal: verbose build logs

2013-06-16 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 14:14:39 +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote:

> Debian X Strike Force 
[long list]

Working on fixing these (adding --disable-silent-rules) as I update
them.  Will take a while though...

Cheers,
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Re: default MTA

2013-06-16 Thread Daniel Pocock


On 15/06/13 13:04, David Weinehall wrote:
> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 12:15:03PM +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote:
>> The issue that worries me most about these desktop notification plans is
>> the possibility that some package may decide to unnecessarily drop
>> support for non-desktop systems, adding dependencies on the desktop
>> notification system. I believe we already have had a few examples of
>> such unnecessary dependencies on services which are "nice to have", like
>> GNOME depending on NetworkManager for example.
> 
> I'm having a hard time understanding this particular gripe.  If you're
> running a non-desktop system (by this I take it to mean that you're not
> using a GUI), why would you worry about GNOME's dependencies anyhow?
> 
> If you're using a desktop system it doesn't feel like a stretch to use
> functionality that fits in with the desktop system.  And vice versa,
> obviously.

This concern could be put another way: that if the mailer is not
present, developers will no longer assume it is present and will choose
other dependencies (maybe just syslog or maybe a GUI) as a way of
raising alerts

I prefer to look at it the other way though: how can we make mail
integration so effective that developers will want to use it for
everything and it works more seamlessly with or without a GUI?  I agree
that mail works, but in a default deployment, it does little to
prioritize or de-duplicate alerts from applications and the OS.


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Bug#712518: ITP: libcatalyst-action-serialize-data-serializer-perl -- serializing module for Catalyst::Action::REST using Data::Serializer

2013-06-16 Thread gregor herrmann
Package: wnpp
Owner: gregor herrmann 
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org

* Package name: libcatalyst-action-serialize-data-serializer-perl
  Version : 1.08
  Upstream Author : Tomas Doran 
* URL : 
https://metacpan.org/release/Catalyst-Action-Serialize-Data-Serializer/
* License : Artistic or GPL-1+
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : serializing module for Catalyst::Action::REST using 
Data::Serializer

Catalyst::Action::Serialize::Data::Serializer implements a serializer for use
with "Data::Dumper" and others. It was factored out of Catalyst::Action::REST
because it is unlikely to be widely used and tends to break tests, be
insecure, and is generally weird. Use at your own risk.


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wrong configuration in daemon

2013-06-16 Thread Salvo Tomaselli
Hello,

I have a question concerning a bugreport I got, but that could be quite 
general.

Let's say a daemon provides POP and IMAP, and is configured to provide both, 
in a pop.conf and imap.conf.

How should the daemon ideally fail in case one of the two configuration files 
is incorrect but the other is fine?

Should it log the situation and start the service that it's able to start? Or 
should it just not start at all?


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Re: wrong configuration in daemon

2013-06-16 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 08:28:18PM +0200, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have a question concerning a bugreport I got, but that could be quite 
> general.
> 
> Let's say a daemon provides POP and IMAP, and is configured to provide both, 
> in a pop.conf and imap.conf.
> 
> How should the daemon ideally fail in case one of the two configuration files 
> is incorrect but the other is fine?
> 
> Should it log the situation and start the service that it's able to start? Or 
> should it just not start at all?

This is dependent on the exact daemon and the potential repercussions of not
starting one of the services.

* If it is actually providing both POP and IMAP, it should probably start the
  service with the working config file, and log an error for the other one.
  However, if that is hard to achieve, not starting either service is a valid
  option.

* If it is actually the control system for a nuclear power station, and the
  config files are for the "add more uranium" and "prevent meltdown" services,
  it should probably do an emergency shutdown of the reactor and then prevent
  anything from starting until the problem is fixed.

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Re: wrong configuration in daemon

2013-06-16 Thread Luca Filipozzi
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 08:28:18PM +0200, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:
> I have a question concerning a bugreport I got, but that could be quite 
> general.
> 
> Let's say a daemon provides POP and IMAP, and is configured to provide both, 
> in a pop.conf and imap.conf.
> 
> How should the daemon ideally fail in case one of the two configuration files 
> is incorrect but the other is fine?
> 
> Should it log the situation and start the service that it's able to start? Or 
> should it just not start at all?

If it's a single process that listens on two ports (POP & IMAP) then I would
not start at all.

A system administrator is likely to interpret that a running process indicates
success start.  What would trigger him to check that the process is listening
on both ports.

Also, in the start up script, how would you indicate that the daemon is 'half
started'.

Hope this helps,

Luca

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Bug#712539: ITP: encuentro -- Access the content of the Encuentro channel, and others

2013-06-16 Thread Maximiliano Curia
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Maximiliano Curia 

* Package name: encuentro
  Version : 1.0
  Upstream Author : Facundo Batista 
* URL : http://encuentro.taniquetil.com.ar/
* License : GPL-3
  Programming Lang: Python
  Description : Access the content of the Encuentro channel, and others

Encuentro is a small program that allows you to search, download and watch
videos from the Encuentro argentinian channel. Since the content of the
channel is completely in Spanish, so is this program.


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Re: wrong configuration in daemon

2013-06-16 Thread Istimsak Abdulbasir
If the daemon is configured to restart the service, then it will fail to
execute.

What daemon is servicing both POP and IMAP?
On Jun 16, 2013 2:40 PM, "Luca Filipozzi"  wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 08:28:18PM +0200, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:
> > I have a question concerning a bugreport I got, but that could be quite
> > general.
> >
> > Let's say a daemon provides POP and IMAP, and is configured to provide
> both,
> > in a pop.conf and imap.conf.
> >
> > How should the daemon ideally fail in case one of the two configuration
> files
> > is incorrect but the other is fine?
> >
> > Should it log the situation and start the service that it's able to
> start? Or
> > should it just not start at all?
>
> If it's a single process that listens on two ports (POP & IMAP) then I
> would
> not start at all.
>
> A system administrator is likely to interpret that a running process
> indicates
> success start.  What would trigger him to check that the process is
> listening
> on both ports.
>
> Also, in the start up script, how would you indicate that the daemon is
> 'half
> started'.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Luca
>
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Re: default MTA

2013-06-16 Thread Bob Proulx
David Weinehall wrote:
> Bjørn Mork wrote:
> > The issue that worries me most about these desktop notification plans is
> > the possibility that some package may decide to unnecessarily drop
> > support for non-desktop systems, adding dependencies on the desktop
> > notification system. I believe we already have had a few examples of
> > such unnecessary dependencies on services which are "nice to have", like
> > GNOME depending on NetworkManager for example.
> 
> I'm having a hard time understanding this particular gripe.  If you're
> running a non-desktop system (by this I take it to mean that you're not
> using a GUI), why would you worry about GNOME's dependencies anyhow?

Here is an example: The emacs24-nox package, a typical headless server
package for many of us, depends upon dbus.  Feature creep.

Bob


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Re: default MTA

2013-06-16 Thread Jean-Christophe Dubacq
Le 17/06/2013 06:12, Bob Proulx a écrit :
> David Weinehall wrote:
>> Bjørn Mork wrote:
>>> The issue that worries me most about these desktop notification plans is
>>> the possibility that some package may decide to unnecessarily drop
>>> support for non-desktop systems, adding dependencies on the desktop
>>> notification system. I believe we already have had a few examples of
>>> such unnecessary dependencies on services which are "nice to have", like
>>> GNOME depending on NetworkManager for example.
>>
>> I'm having a hard time understanding this particular gripe.  If you're
>> running a non-desktop system (by this I take it to mean that you're not
>> using a GUI), why would you worry about GNOME's dependencies anyhow?
> 
> Here is an example: The emacs24-nox package, a typical headless server
> package for many of us, depends upon dbus.  Feature creep.
> 

Putting emacs (which I use as my primary editor) and feature creep in
the same sentence is quite funny:

"You are at a dead end of a dirt road.  The road goes to the east.
In the distance you can see that it will eventually fork off.  The
trees here are very tall royal palms, and they are spaced equidistant
from each other.
There is a shovel here."

Please remarke that there is libasound2 in there, too. I can see why
notifications (and not desktop notifications) are useful on a headless
server. Much less for sound.

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