Re: Debian BSP, Dublin, Ireland

[Luca Capello]

Hi there!

On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:03:13 +0200, Philip Ashmore wrote:
> I would like to invite you to the Doodle poll "Debian BSP, Dublin, Ireland".

Can you please use the correct mailing list (debian-events-*@l.d.o) to
organize Debian Events and not spawn debian-devel@?  And please send a
notice to events@d.o with all the relevant information once everything
is settled.

I just realized that the BSP wiki page does not advertise that, fixed:

  

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca

PS, I know that you were already redirected to debian-events-eu@, but
first I wanted to (again) announce why we have debian-events-*@
mailing lists and, second, you kept posting on debian-devel@ ;-)

  


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Re: Bug#678815: ITP: wmfs -- Window Manager From Scratch

[Mickaël Raybaud-Roig]

2012/6/25 Osamu Aoki :
> I am concerned about this package description of ITP and I wish it is
> improved if it is uploaded to Debian.

Hello,

In fact, i didn't realized that the ITP description will be the
description of the final package.

I will edit it as soon as possible (i am at work, and i don't have my
PGP key, so i dont know if i can, since i used PGP to send the ITP
...)

But how can-i edit the description ?
Shoud-i use this  http://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control.en.html#summary ?

Thank in advance


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Re: Bug#678815: ITP: wmfs -- Window Manager From Scratch

[Neil Williams]

On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 09:57:52 +0200
Mickaël Raybaud-Roig  wrote:

> 2012/6/25 Osamu Aoki :
> > I am concerned about this package description of ITP and I wish it is
> > improved if it is uploaded to Debian.
> 
> In fact, i didn't realized that the ITP description will be the
> description of the final package.
> 
> I will edit it as soon as possible (i am at work, and i don't have my
> PGP key, so i dont know if i can, since i used PGP to send the ITP

Bug comments do not need PGP/GnuPG signatures - only uploads need those.

> But how can-i edit the description ?
> Shoud-i use this  http://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control.en.html#summary ?

Just add a comment that the final description will be 

You can use summary with that, yes, but as long as it exists in the bug
log, people can look at the end of the log.

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Bug#679078: ITP: acpi-support-minimal -- minimal acpi scripts

[Bernhard R. Link]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Bernhard R. Link" 

Package name: acpi-support-minimal
License : GPL2+
Description: minimal scripts for handling base ACPI events
 This package contains minimal scripts to react to various base
 ACPI events such as the power button. It does not require any
 other daemons but acpid. For a less minimal version, install
 the "acpi-support-base" or "acpi-support" packages.



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Re: Bug#678815: ITP: wmfs -- Window Manager From Scratch

[Mickaël Raybaud-Roig]

2012/6/26 Neil Williams :
> On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 09:57:52 +0200
> Mickaël Raybaud-Roig  wrote:
>
>> 2012/6/25 Osamu Aoki :
>> > I am concerned about this package description of ITP and I wish it is
>> > improved if it is uploaded to Debian.
>>
>> In fact, i didn't realized that the ITP description will be the
>> description of the final package.
>>
>> I will edit it as soon as possible (i am at work, and i don't have my
>> PGP key, so i dont know if i can, since i used PGP to send the ITP
>
> Bug comments do not need PGP/GnuPG signatures - only uploads need those.
>
>> But how can-i edit the description ?
>> Shoud-i use this  http://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control.en.html#summary ?
>
> Just add a comment that the final description will be 
>
> You can use summary with that, yes, but as long as it exists in the bug
> log, people can look at the end of the log.

Okay, thanks :-)


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Re: Bug#679078: ITP: acpi-support-minimal -- minimal acpi scripts

[Guillem Jover]

Hi!

On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 10:52:48 +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: "Bernhard R. Link" 
> 
> Package name: acpi-support-minimal
> License : GPL2+
> Description: minimal scripts for handling base ACPI events
>  This package contains minimal scripts to react to various base
>  ACPI events such as the power button. It does not require any
>  other daemons but acpid. For a less minimal version, install
>  the "acpi-support-base" or "acpi-support" packages.

I'm guessing this is due to the introduction of the consolekit
hard dependency. I was meaning to reply to 665987 with more info,
but that slipped my mind, and I see now that you filed 678524 too.

I'll be reopening 665987, but if that gets closed again I'd be very
happy to switch to acpi-support-minimal from my now locally built
acpi-support packages w/ the consolekit dependency removed.

thanks,
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Re: Introducing http.debian.net, Debian's mirrors redirector

[shirish शिरीष]

in-line :-

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Raphael Geissert  wrote:
> Hi,

Hi again,

> On Thursday 21 June 2012 23:03:34 shirish शिरीष wrote:
>> > More details, comparison to other approaches, and more information can
>> > be found at:
>> > http://http.debian.net/
>>
>> I *think* it should be also beneficial for jigdo stuff as well.
>
> Yes. Not sure how the downloader used by jigdo handles redirections, but it
> should work nevertheless.
>
>> There is one thing though, for some reason it takes much more
>> bandwidth when updating the index then my previous way.
> [...]
>> Previously when I was using a single mirror, most of the time the diff
>> between two runs was at the most 750 kB in the index update run. I can
>> recall there is something call .pdiff which made it easier and smaller
>> to have the index updated.
>
> For some reason, there no longer are "pdiff"s for stable, so it has to
> download the whole files on every update.

This seems to happen only via the re-director. For instance this is
from my second run with having a single server in
/etc/apt/sources.list :-

$ aptu
Hit http://ftp.debian.org unstable InRelease
Hit http://ftp.debian.org experimental InRelease
Hit http://ftp.debian.org testing InRelease
Ign http://ftp.debian.org stable InRelease
Hit http://ftp.debian.org unstable/main Sources/DiffIndex
Hit http://ftp.debian.org unstable/contrib Sources/DiffIndex
Hit http://ftp.debian.org unstable/non-free Sources/DiffIndex
Hit http://ftp.debian.org unstable/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://ftp.debian.org unstable/contrib amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://ftp.debian.org unstable/non-free amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://ftp.debian.org unstable/contrib Translation-en/DiffIndex
Hit http://ftp.debian.org unstable/main Translation-en/DiffIndex
Hit http://ftp.debian.org unstable/non-free Translation-en/DiffIndex
Get: 1 http://ftp.debian.org experimental/main amd64
Packages/DiffIndex [7,819 B]
Get: 2 http://ftp.debian.org experimental/main
Translation-en/DiffIndex [7,819 B]
Hit http://ftp.debian.org testing/main Sources/DiffIndex
Hit http://ftp.debian.org testing/contrib Sources/DiffIndex
Hit http://ftp.debian.org testing/non-free Sources/DiffIndex
Hit http://ftp.debian.org testing/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://ftp.debian.org testing/contrib amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://ftp.debian.org testing/non-free amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://ftp.debian.org testing/contrib Translation-en/DiffIndex
Hit http://ftp.debian.org testing/main Translation-en/DiffIndex
Hit http://ftp.debian.org testing/non-free Translation-en/DiffIndex
Get: 3 http://ftp.debian.org stable Release.gpg [1,672 B]
Get: 4 http://ftp.debian.org unstable/main 2012-06-26-0815.36.pdiff
[21.1 kB]
Get: 5 http://ftp.debian.org unstable/main 2012-06-26-0815.36.pdiff
[21.1 kB]
Get: 6 http://ftp.debian.org unstable/main amd64
2012-06-26-0815.36.pdiff [9,871 B]
Get: 7 http://ftp.debian.org unstable/main 2012-06-26-0815.36.pdiff
[277 B]
Get: 8 http://ftp.debian.org unstable/main amd64
2012-06-26-0815.36.pdiff [9,871 B]
Get: 9 http://ftp.debian.org experimental/main amd64
2012-06-26-0215.13.pdiff [759 B]
Get: 10 http://ftp.debian.org experimental/main
2012-06-26-0215.13.pdiff [351 B]
Get: 11 http://ftp.debian.org testing/main 2012-06-26-0215.13.pdiff
[30.0 kB]
Get: 12 http://ftp.debian.org unstable/main 2012-06-26-0815.36.pdiff
[277 B]
Get: 13 http://ftp.debian.org experimental/main amd64
2012-06-26-0215.13.pdiff [759 B]
Get: 14 http://ftp.debian.org experimental/main
2012-06-26-0215.13.pdiff [351 B]
Get: 15 http://ftp.debian.org testing/main 2012-06-26-0215.13.pdiff
[30.0 kB]
Get: 16 http://ftp.debian.org testing/non-free
2012-06-26-0215.13.pdiff [393 B]
Get: 17 http://ftp.debian.org testing/main amd64
2012-06-26-0215.13.pdiff [47.3 kB]
Get: 18 http://ftp.debian.org testing/non-free
2012-06-26-0215.13.pdiff [393 B]
Get: 19 http://ftp.debian.org testing/main amd64
2012-06-26-0215.13.pdiff [47.3 kB]
Get: 20 http://ftp.debian.org testing/non-free amd64
2012-06-26-0215.13.pdiff [3,829 B]
Get: 21 http://ftp.debian.org testing/main 2012-06-26-0215.13.pdiff
[1,459 B]
Get: 22 http://ftp.debian.org testing/non-free amd64
2012-06-26-0215.13.pdiff [3,829 B]
Get: 23 http://ftp.debian.org testing/main 2012-06-26-0215.13.pdiff
[1,459 B]
Get: 24 http://ftp.debian.org testing/non-free
2012-06-26-0215.13.pdiff [258 B]
Get: 25 http://ftp.debian.org testing/non-free
2012-06-26-0215.13.pdiff [258 B]
Hit http://ftp.debian.org stable Release
Get: 26 http://ftp.debian.org experimental/main amd64
2012-06-26-0815.36.pdiff [701 B]
Get: 27 http://ftp.debian.org experimental/main amd64
2012-06-26-0815.36.pdiff [701 B]
Get: 28 http://ftp.debian.org experimental/main
2012-06-26-0815.36.pdiff [571 B]
Get: 29 http://ftp.debian.org experimental/main
2012-06-26-0815.36.pdiff [571 B]
Hit http://ftp.debian.org stable/main Sources
Hit http://ftp.debian.org stable/contrib Sources
Hit http://ftp.debian.org stable/non-free Sources
Hit http://ftp.debian

Re: Introducing http.debian.net, Debian's mirrors redirector

[shirish शिरीष]

at bottom :-

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 3:45 PM, shirish शिरीष  wrote:
> $ aptu

just for clarity aptu is an alias :-

$ alias aptu
alias aptu='sudo aptitude update;sleep 5;sudo aptitude safe-upgrade;
sleep 5; sudo apt-file update; sleep 5'
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Re: Introducing http.debian.net, Debian's mirrors redirector

[Adam D. Barratt]

On 26.06.2012 06:13, Raphael Geissert wrote:
For some reason, there no longer are "pdiff"s for stable, so it has 
to

download the whole files on every update.


Were there ever pdiffs for stable?  They seem a little redundant, given 
that the packages files only change every couple of months or so.


Regards,

Adam


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Re: Introducing http.debian.net, Debian's mirrors redirector

[Philipp Kern]

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 11:57:25AM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> On 26.06.2012 06:13, Raphael Geissert wrote:
> >For some reason, there no longer are "pdiff"s for stable, so it
> >has to download the whole files on every update.
> Were there ever pdiffs for stable?  They seem a little redundant,
> given that the packages files only change every couple of months or
> so.

I don't think so, so the "no longer" is wrong. On the other hand they do make
sense, given that you'll only download one small diff. I think I asked about it
a while back in #-ftp, but did not file a bug about it.

Kind regards
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Re: Bug#679078: ITP: acpi-support-minimal -- minimal acpi scripts

[Michael Meskes]

> I'll be reopening 665987, but if that gets closed again I'd be very
> happy to switch to acpi-support-minimal from my now locally built
> acpi-support packages w/ the consolekit dependency removed.

I'm not sure I like the attitude here. "If that gets closed again" sounds like
I was closing the bug without a reason, which I didn't. I'm absolutely willing
to listen to ideas of solving this, which imo would be a much better solution
than creating an additional package that will only partly work. But please don't
forget that upstream started using consolekit for a reason. 

Michael
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Bug#679126: ITP: librdf-closure-perl -- pure Perl RDF inferencing

[Jonas Smedegaard]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Jonas Smedegaard 

* Package name: librdf-closure-perl
  Version : 0.0.0~03
  Upstream Author : Toby Inkster 
* URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/RDF-Closure/
* License : Artistic or GPL-1+
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : pure Perl RDF inferencing

 Resource Description Framework (RDF) is a standard model for data
 interchange on the Web.
 .
 RDF::Closure is a pure Perl RDF inference engine designed as an add-in
 for RDF::Trine. It is largely a port of Ivan Herman's Python RDFClosure
 library, though there has been some restructuing, and there are a few
 extras thrown in.



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Re: Bug#679078: ITP: acpi-support-minimal -- minimal acpi scripts

[Guillem Jover]

On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 14:48:10 +0200, Michael Meskes wrote:
> > I'll be reopening 665987, but if that gets closed again I'd be very
> > happy to switch to acpi-support-minimal from my now locally built
> > acpi-support packages w/ the consolekit dependency removed.
> 
> I'm not sure I like the attitude here. "If that gets closed again"
> sounds like I was closing the bug without a reason, which I didn't.

Sure! It was not my intention to make it sound like you closed it w/o
reason; given the comment on the previous paragraph stating that I
didn't reply to the bug report, I thought that would be clear. I guess
not. :)

> I'm absolutely willing to listen to ideas of solving this, which imo
> would be a much better solution than creating an additional package
> that will only partly work. But please don't forget that upstream
> started using consolekit for a reason.

I agree that coming up with a working solution that works for everyone
would be perfect. The comment about the bug being closed again was only
referring to the possibility that you, as the maintainer, could not be
convinced, which would be completely respectable, and in such case
because we'd still disagree there's other options for us; removing the
packages, switching to something else, or keep forking them locally to
remove the dependency, but if Bernhard is willing to maintain such
fork inside or outside Debian, then all the better. OTOH taking this
for example to the tech-ctte would *not* be an option, because I've
never considered that to be a reasonable solution to anything.

I'll follow up on the acpi-support bug report.

thanks,
guillem


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Re: On the (ab)use of the Urgency field

[Neil McGovern]

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 12:08:53PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> As mentioned in the last mail we sent to d-d-a (and several at
> various points before that) if you have serious concerns that
> important updates to your package won't be included in the release,
> the correct approach is to talk to us, not try and work around us.
> The net effect of the above is more likely to be that the urgency
> will be overriden on the britney side as if the package had been
> uploaded with a lower urgency.
> 

For information, I've added some more age-days 10 hints today. If you
need a higher urgency, please mention why in the changelog.

Otherwise I have to go through every bug you mention in it, and when I
don't see anything that looks like it justifies a higher urgency, I'm
having to assume it was uploaded with that urgency in error.

Thanks,
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Bug#679134: ITP: libdatetime-format-xsd-perl -- format DateTime according to xsd:dateTime

[Jonas Smedegaard]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Jonas Smedegaard 

* Package name: libdatetime-format-xsd-perl
  Version : 0.2
  Upstream Author : Daniel Ruoso 
* URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/DateTime-Format-XSD/
* License : Artistic or GPL-1+
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : format DateTime according to xsd:dateTime

 XML Schema defines a usage profile which is a subset of the ISO8601
 profile. This profile defines that the following is the only possible
 representation for a dateTime, despite all other options ISO provides.
 .
  -MM-DD"T"HH:MI:SS(Z|[+-]zh:zm)
 .
 DateTime::Format::XSD is a subclass of DateTime::Format::ISO8601,
 therefore it will be able to parse all other ISO options, but will only
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Re: Bits from the Release Team: Final countdown!

[Agustin Martin]

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:16:07AM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> We know no-one likes reading long mails on d-d-a, so we'll keep this
> short: we'll be stopping automatic migrations of packages from unstable
> to testing - aka freezing - on June 30th. 
> 
> Any packages in unstable before the 19:52 dinstall begins on that day
> will be given automatic freeze exceptions (for the specific version in
> unstable).
> 
> As with the Squeeze freeze the process will be gradual, with a more
> liberal acceptance policy in the earlier stages. Precise details as to
> what that means will be available soon.

Hi,

Thanks for the info. One minor question,

Will stuff already in the NEW queue not being really new packages (I mean
things like source or binary package renames) be given some special
consideration regarding the freeze?

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Re: Bits from the Release Team: Final countdown!

[Neil McGovern]

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 06:04:20PM +0200, Agustin Martin wrote:
> Will stuff already in the NEW queue not being really new packages (I mean
> things like source or binary package renames) be given some special
> consideration regarding the freeze?
> 

Hi,

Anything in the NEW queue will not count towards the unblock. If it's
necessary for an rc fix, explain that to us, otherwise it's probably not
going to make it.

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Re: Is anybody intersted in packaging Selectricity ? (Was: Re: Debian BSP, Dublin, Ireland)

[Paul Wise]

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Charles Plessy wrote:

> I would like to advertise Selectricity, which is Free software.
>
>  http://selectricity.org/
>
> It is not designed with the same goals so it is not a drop-in replacement,
> which is somehow good as Free software can also innovate and not just
> re-implement proprietary solutions.  This said, in many simple cases,
> Selectricity it is a good alternative for Doodle.
>
> Actually, if somebody has the skill and time and looks for a target, I think
> that Selectricity could be a high impact one.

There are much better alternatives to Doodle, for some examples see
the links at the bottom of here:

http://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/LeavingTheCloud

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Bug#679145: ia32-libs-gtk: Please remove at-spi [Was: The future (or non-future) of ia32-libs]

[Samuel Thibault]

Package: ia32-libs-gtk
Version: 20120102
Severity: normal

Goswin von Brederlow, le Fri 22 Jun 2012 11:34:12 +0200, a écrit :
> And then there is also ia32-libs-gtk [2], which is not yet installable as
> multiarch:
> 
> #677762 ia32-libs-gtk: Multiarch issues
> ---
> #69 at-spi: Please add multiarch support

This package is actually deprecated, and the remaining reverse
dependencies do not need a multiarch version, so please remove it from
ia32-libs-gtk.

Samuel



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apt-get source gets a more recent version of linux than I can install

[Philip Ashmore]

Hi there.

I noticed a few hours ago that apt-get source linux gets me 3.2.21-1, 
but the I have the "latest" kernel installed which is 3.2.20-1. What gives?


Philip


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Re: apt-get source gets a more recent version of linux than I can install

[Vincent Bernat]

 ❦ 26 juin 2012 21:02 CEST, Philip Ashmore  :

> I noticed a few hours ago that apt-get source linux gets me 3.2.21-1,
> but the I have the "latest" kernel installed which is 3.2.20-1. What
> gives?

The latest one may not be available for your architecture on your
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Re: apt-get source gets a more recent version of linux than I can install

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Ma, 26 iun 12, 20:02:05, Philip Ashmore wrote:
> Hi there.
> 
> I noticed a few hours ago that apt-get source linux gets me
> 3.2.21-1, but the I have the "latest" kernel installed which is
> 3.2.20-1. What gives?

apt-get source will get the most recent available source for the 
package, regardless of what version you have installed. If you feel the 
explanation in apt-get(8) is unclear you might want to propose a patch.

Kindly address such questions to debian-user in the future ;)

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Bug#679161: ITP: libvuser-google-api-perl -- Perl module that implements the Google Apps for Your Domain Provisioning API

[Joenio Costa]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Joenio Costa 


* Package name: libvuser-google-api-perl
  Version : 1.0.1
  Upstream Author : Randy Smith 
* URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/VUser-Google-Api/
* License : Artistic
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : Perl module that implements the Google Apps for Your Domain 
Provisioning API

This module provides a simple interface to the Google Apps for Your
Domain Provisioning API. It uses the LWP::UserAgent module for the HTTP
transport, and the HTTP::Request module for the HTTP request and
response



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Re: apt-get source gets a more recent version of linux than I can install

[Ben Hutchings]

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 09:11:03PM +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote:
>  ❦ 26 juin 2012 21:02 CEST, Philip Ashmore  :
> 
> > I noticed a few hours ago that apt-get source linux gets me 3.2.21-1,
> > but the I have the "latest" kernel installed which is 3.2.20-1. What
> > gives?
> 
> The latest one may not be available for your architecture on your
> current mirror yet.

And FTBFS on i386.  Fixed in today's 3.2.21-2.

Ben.

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Bug#679173: general: No transfert file from or to the smartphones and my PC: SONY xperia x10 and HTC One X

[HOAREAU jean pierre]

Package: general
Severity: grave
Justification: renders package unusable

Dear Maintainer,
*** Please consider answering these questions, where appropriate ***

   * What led up to the situation?
   * What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or
 ineffective)?
   * What was the outcome of this action?
   * What outcome did you expect instead?

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-- System Information:
Debian Release: wheezy/sid
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (500, 'testing')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-2-686-pae (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash



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Processed: severity of 679173 is normal

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Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org:

> severity 679173 normal
Bug #679173 [general] general: No transfert file from or to the smartphones and 
my PC: SONY xperia x10 and HTC One X
Severity set to 'normal' from 'grave'
> thanks
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Bug#679173: No transfert file from or to the smartphones and my PC: SONY xperia x10 and HTC One X

[Jonathan Nieder]

tags 679173 + wheezy moreinfo
quit

Hi Jean Pierre,

HOAREAU jean pierre wrote:

>* What led up to the situation?
>* What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or
>  ineffective)?
>* What was the outcome of this action?
>* What outcome did you expect instead?

Could you answer the above questions?  (No need to separate the
answers --- a simple explanation that answers all those questions
would be good enough.)  In other words, if I had the same hardware
you have, what should I do to experience the problem for myself?

Curious,
Jonathan



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Re: Bug#678815: ITP: wmfs -- Window Manager From Scratch

[Thomas Koch]

Hi Mickaël,

I'm sorry that I did not include a warm welcoming statement in my last
mail. I'm happy about everybody who is interested in Debian and even
considers doing packaging work. I've found a community of great
professionals, friendly people and extraordinary personalities among
Debian's contributors.

I'm looking forward to hear more of you or meet you at a free software
event, e.g. next year's debconf in Switzerland?

Thus having said, I believe that the world (and Debians archive) does
have all the window managers it needs. :-)

Regards, Thomas Koch


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