gnome is completely f^Mmessed up

2012-06-08 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi everyone,

is this only me or do I have the feeling that we are going down
the trench with Gnome? 
Repeatedly:
- first login: nautilus segfaults in libnautilus-fileroller.so
  after log out and log in it sometimes works
  starting it manually most of the times work, but not always
- ssh/gpg agent: most of the time just is completely useless
  either does not ask, or just segfaults in libglib-2.0
- plugging/unplugging power cord makes gnome-shell crash (known bug)
- ...
When I finally manage to get a running session, then out of nothing
the blue whale appear, BSOD.

Is this a joke? Are we going to release that in June/July/whenever?

Best wishes

Norbert

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Re: gnome is completely f^Mmessed up

2012-06-08 Thread Holger Levsen
On Freitag, 8. Juni 2012, Norbert Preining wrote:
> Is this a joke? Are we going to release that in June/July/whenever?

yeah, the plan is to release wheezy in June






















































.oO( OMFSM. read d-d-a. use the bts and dont rant on -devel. it's useless. )


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Re: gnome is completely f^Mmessed up

2012-06-08 Thread Neil Williams
On Fri, 8 Jun 2012 09:23:41 +0200
Holger Levsen  wrote:

> On Freitag, 8. Juni 2012, Norbert Preining wrote:
> > Is this a joke? Are we going to release that in June/July/whenever?
> 
> yeah, the plan is to release wheezy in June
> 

s/release/freeze/

The freeze will be in June - i.e. this month. The release comes later,
how much later depends on how many people spend their Debian time
fixing RC bugs and how many carry on as if the freeze didn't exist.

File bugs if not filed already or feed back to existing bugs then fix
the bugs and we can release.

I'm not using GNOME anymore, so I can't verify whether the issues you
report are reproducible from this end. However, I may well play with a
Wheezy install using GNOME in a VM at some point - whether that's a
fair test of some of the issues you're seeing is impossible to tell in
advance. If it helps clarify/fix RC bugs, I'll do what I can but there
are more than enough RC bugs to go around, I may well get distracted
by others which are more directly relevant to my usage.

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Re: gnome is completely f^Mmessed up

2012-06-08 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Freitag, 8. Juni 2012, Neil Williams wrote:
> The freeze will be in June - i.e. this month. The release comes later,
> how much later depends on how many people spend their Debian time
> fixing RC bugs and how many carry on as if the freeze didn't exist.
> 
> File bugs if not filed already or feed back to existing bugs then fix
> the bugs and we can release.

right, I was being sarcastic :-D Thanks for being serious.


cheers,
Holger


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Re: future of python-pipeline package

2012-06-08 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Jakub,

On Dienstag, 22. Mai 2012, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> * Dmitry Nezhevenko , 2012-05-16, 11:57:
> >I'm trying to package a ReviewBoard package that depends on
> >django-pipeline module. Unfortunately there is already another package
> >named python-pipeline in debian that uses same python module name
> >(pipeline). This another package is orphaned for a year:
> > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=620067
> >
> >I've asked it's upstream and author is going to rename it to something
> >
> >else:
> > http://code.google.com/p/python-pipeline/issues/detail?id=1

but it seems this issue is stalled.

> >apt-cache rdepends shows nothing for current python-pipeline. Also
> >
> >popcon shows only 48 installation without information about usage:
> > http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=python-pipeline
> >
> >So I'm asking how to deal with it? django-pipeline looks like more
> >popular according to project github page and bugtracker.
> >
> >Holger suggests to ask here and thinks that it's better to remove
> >orphaned pipeline package.
> 
> How would the removal help?

well, with the following request from yours, not much:
 
> With my upstream and ex-maintainer hats on, I'm fine with removing
> python-pipeline from unstable. However, I object to another package
> taking over the module name.

So the current situation is, that a package which is orphaned, has a low 
popcon score, no reverse depends and which the upstream maintainer is fine 
being removed from Debian, blocks another package, which is a depends for 
reviewboard (see reviewboard.org), which is a rather useful package, which now 
probably will not make it into wheezy because of this.

I think this is a pretty sad situation. 

Frankly I wonder if it's reasonable to listen to your objections or not. You 
clearly stated you don't care about python-pipeline in Debian (sid), so I'm 
not sure you have any grounds blocking django-pipeline to enter.

Comments, suggestions, ideas?


cheers,
Holger


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Re: gnome is completely f^Mmessed up

2012-06-08 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi

On Fr, 08 Jun 2012, Holger Levsen wrote:
> yeah, the plan is to release wheezy in June

Thanks for the wise words.

On Fr, 08 Jun 2012, Neil Williams wrote:
> File bugs if not filed already or feed back to existing bugs then fix
> the bugs and we can release.

Done already on several occasions. Added one for the keyring.

> I'm not using GNOME anymore, so I can't verify whether the issues you

Soon neither do I. Unfortunately it is probably another 10 releases
away from reaching a halfway stable state, comparable to gnome2.

Best wishes

Norbert

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Re: this bug .. bugs me

2012-06-08 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 08:16:26PM +0200, Steven Post wrote:
> Reading this I assume ia32-libs will be removed from Debian (with which
> I completely agree btw), what about packages outside of Debian that
> currently depend upon ia32-libs? To name a certain package: skype. Its
> AMD64 package from the official website depends on it.
You can use
http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/s/skype/skype-bin_2.2.0.35-0precise3_i386.deb

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Re: Idea: mount /tmp to tmpfs depending on free space and RAM

2012-06-08 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen

[Serge]
> Well, nobody named the benefits yet.

[Wouter Verhelst]
> - You could mount your mail spool there, and make things go blazingly
>   fast [1]
[...]
> - There's no danger of a symlink attack or similar with things like
>   tmpreaper -- or indeed any need for tmpreaper anymore. You reboot the
>   system, and /tmp is clean again, no matter what was there before. This
>   is more than just a convenience.

I've happily been using tmpfs on /tmp/ for probably ten years now, and
can list some more benefits:

 - It allow diskless setups like LTSP to work the same way the default
   installation in Debian work.  They use read-only NFS-mounted file
   systems and a writable tmpfs mounted on /tmp/.

 - It reduces the number of disk writes on a laptop, allowing it to
   spin down the disk a bit longer.
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Re: Processed: reassign 676001 to busybox

2012-06-08 Thread Michael Tokarev
[Adding debian-devel@ to the Cc list]

Short story (and it is short): the bug has been filed
against initramfs-tools initially, it is about how
/proc and /sys filesystem should be handled in initramfs
when switching to new root.  Original reporter included
a trivial patch for initramfs that does re-mounting of
these filesystems.  Max reassigned it to busybox without
giving any reasonings or comments whatsoever.  I explained
that it is none of switch_root business, in
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=676001#24 ,
and asked to not reassign bugs without giving a word of
explanation.  After a few days of inactivity I reassigned
this bug back to initramfs, per my explanation.  Now max
reassigned it back.

On 08.06.2012 14:49, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:
> Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org:
> 
>> reassign 676001 busybox
> Bug #676001 [initramfs-tools] initramfs-tools: busybox's switch_root doesn't 
> handle /proc or /sys moving
> Bug reassigned from package 'initramfs-tools' to 'busybox'.

Wonderful.

I asked you nicely a) to stop reassigning without explanation,
and b) to provide some comments about why do you think it is
a busybox isue, at the same time providing my reasoning why
it is not.

After you failed to provide any comments, I reassigned it back
to initramfs-tools.

And you, 2nd time in a row, does the same: reassigning it back
to bysubox (where, as I described before, it does not belong to),
and gives neither explanation nor any comments/answers to my
reasoning.

So I've no other "solution" but to tag this as wontfix in busybox,
because I think it is not where it should be fixed, as per my
previous explanation.  Mind you, this "solution" does not help
users at all.

/mjt


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Re: Processed: reassign 676001 to busybox

2012-06-08 Thread Michael Tokarev
On 08.06.2012 14:59, Michael Tokarev wrote:
[]
> Wonderful.
> 
> I asked you nicely a) to stop reassigning without explanation,
> and b) to provide some comments about why do you think it is
> a busybox isue, at the same time providing my reasoning why
> it is not.

Ok.  This was premature.  Somehow I received this "reassigning"
message quite a bit before the comments you actually added when
doing it the second time.  So yes, there are some comments now,
I stand corrected.  I'll address these in #676001.

Thanks.

/mjt


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Re: Idea: mount /tmp to tmpfs depending on free space and RAM

2012-06-08 Thread Bjørn Mork
Petter Reinholdtsen  writes:

> I've happily been using tmpfs on /tmp/ for probably ten years now, and
> can list some more benefits:
>
>  - It allow diskless setups like LTSP to work the same way the default
>installation in Debian work.  They use read-only NFS-mounted file
>systems and a writable tmpfs mounted on /tmp/.
>
>  - It reduces the number of disk writes on a laptop, allowing it to
>spin down the disk a bit longer.


I'd like to add another one:

- a tmpfs is always easy to grow without requiring any special
  preparations.  Just add more swap.  The swap could be on different
  disks, and could even be files hosted on other file systems.

Any file system will run out of space given the broken applications
mentioned in this thread.  tmpfs is the only one which will allow all
systems to dynamically add more space, only limited by the available
disks. That's why tmpfs should be the default for both new and old
systems, unless the administrator has explicitly made a more limited
choice.


Bjørn


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Re: Processed: reassign 676001 to busybox

2012-06-08 Thread maximilian attems
On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 02:59:26PM +0400, Michael Tokarev wrote:
> [Adding debian-devel@ to the Cc list]
> 
> Short story (and it is short): the bug has been filed
> against initramfs-tools initially, it is about how
> /proc and /sys filesystem should be handled in initramfs
> when switching to new root.  Original reporter included
> a trivial patch for initramfs that does re-mounting of
> these filesystems.  Max reassigned it to busybox without
> giving any reasonings or comments whatsoever.  I explained
> that it is none of switch_root business, in
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=676001#24 ,
> and asked to not reassign bugs without giving a word of
> explanation.  After a few days of inactivity I reassigned
> this bug back to initramfs, per my explanation.  Now max
> reassigned it back.

no, no, you get the story wrong.

The bug on initramfs-tools side is fixed^Wworked-around.
I reassigned the *cloned* bug to busybox to have it properly
fixed there.

please get an ice cream and keep cool.
No need to make a drama out of a simple single bug.
 

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Bug#676628: ITP: python-yubico -- Python code for talking to Yubico YubiKeys

2012-06-08 Thread Fredrik Thulin
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Fredrik Thulin 


* Package name: python-yubico
  Version : 1.1.0
  Upstream Author : Fredrik Thulin 
* URL : https://github.com/Yubico/python-yubico
* License : BSD-2-clause
  Programming Lang: Python
  Description : Python code for talking to Yubico YubiKeys

The YubiKey is a hardware authentication token. This is a Python
package for interacting with YubiKeys. Typical use is to detect,
configure (personalize) or issue challenge-responses to YubiKeys.



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Re: Idea: mount /tmp to tmpfs depending on free space and RAM

2012-06-08 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 01:04:50PM +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote:

- a tmpfs is always easy to grow without requiring any special
 preparations.  Just add more swap.  The swap could be on different
 disks, and could even be files hosted on other file systems.


Yes, of course, now I’m not only wasting RAM for tmpfs but disk space for 
swap files?



Any file system will run out of space given the broken applications
mentioned in this thread.  tmpfs is the only one which will allow all


tmpfs will run out of space much ealier than your 2TB disk.


systems to dynamically add more space, only limited by the available
disks. That's why tmpfs should be the default for both new and old


ROTFL, yes, of course. I can get my tmpfs bigger than my disk to back it 
up. Sorry, this is ridiculous. If I have enough disks available I can 
grow my tmp partition (or my root partition with tmp) with LVM without 
problems as well.


Both things are nothing a standard desktop user can do by its own, but 
the standard desktop user will certainly have more disk space than RAM, 
so I’m glad this tmpfs for tmp crap is off by default.


Shade and sweet water!

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Bug#676630: ITP: ruby-kyotocabinet -- Kyoto Cabinet is an efficient database library like GDBM and NDBM.

2012-06-08 Thread shawn
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Shawn Landden 

* Package name: ruby-kyotocabinet
  Version : 1.32
  Upstream Author : Mikio Hirabayashi 
* URL : http://fallabs.com/kyotocabinet/
* License : GPL-3+
  Programming Lang: C++
  Description : Kyoto Cabinet is an efficient database library like GDBM 
and NDBM.

Kyoto Cabinet is a library of routines for managing a database. The database
is a simple data file containing records, each is a pair of a key and a
value. Every key and value is serial bytes with variable length. Both binary
data and character string can be used as a key and a value. Each key must be
unique within a database. There is neither concept of data tables nor data
types. Records are organized in hash table or B+ tree.

Kyoto Cabinet runs very fast. For example, elapsed time to store one million
records is 0.9 seconds for hash database, and 1.1 seconds for B+ tree
database. Moreover, the size of database is very small. For example,
overhead for a record is 16 bytes for hash database, and 4 bytes for B+ tree
database. Furthermore, scalability of Kyoto Cabinet is great. The database
size can be up to 8EB (9.22e18 bytes).



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Re: Idea: mount /tmp to tmpfs depending on free space and RAM

2012-06-08 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen

[Bjørn Mork]
> I'd like to add another one:
>
> - a tmpfs is always easy to grow without requiring any special
>   preparations.  Just add more swap.  The swap could be on different
>   disks, and could even be files hosted on other file systems.

This sound very similar to what I am doing already with LVM and online
file system growing.  A simple 'lvresize' and 'ext2resize' (or just
debian-edu-fsautoresize for those of us with that tool available)
later the full file systems have more free space again. :)

Did I misunderstand you?

> Any file system will run out of space given the broken applications
> mentioned in this thread.  tmpfs is the only one which will allow
> all systems to dynamically add more space, only limited by the
> available disks. That's why tmpfs should be the default for both new
> and old systems, unless the administrator has explicitly made a more
> limited choice.

While I agree that tmpfs should be the default, I suspect this
argument isn't solid enough to make it worth it.  There are luckily
other arguments too. :)
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Re: gnome is completely f^Mmessed up

2012-06-08 Thread Florian Reitmeir

Norbert Preining wrote:

is this only me or do I have the feeling that we are going down
the trench with Gnome?
Repeatedly:
- first login: nautilus segfaults in libnautilus-fileroller.so
   after log out and log in it sometimes works
   starting it manually most of the times work, but not always
- ssh/gpg agent: most of the time just is completely useless
   either does not ask, or just segfaults in libglib-2.0
- plugging/unplugging power cord makes gnome-shell crash (known bug)
- ...
When I finally manage to get a running session, then out of nothing
the blue whale appear, BSOD.

Is this a joke? Are we going to release that in June/July/whenever?
i use gnome too, and for me its working very stable, and gnome3 is way 
better than gnome2.


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Re: gnome is completely f^Mmessed up

2012-06-08 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Florian Reitmeir  writes:
>> Is this a joke? Are we going to release that in June/July/whenever?
> i use gnome too, and for me its working very stable, and gnome3 is way
> better than gnome2.

I installed wheezy to my old laptop a few months ago and was very happy
with gnome too. Maybe the breakage is recent or there's something
special in your installation.


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Re: Idea: mount /tmp to tmpfs depending on free space and RAM

2012-06-08 Thread Serge
2012/6/8 Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:

> [Wouter Verhelst]
>> - You could mount your mail spool there, and make things go blazingly
>>   fast [1]

You could, but this is not related to /tmp.

>> - There's no danger of a symlink attack or similar with things like
>>   tmpreaper -- or indeed any need for tmpreaper anymore. You reboot the
>>   system, and /tmp is clean again, no matter what was there before. This
>>   is more than just a convenience.

This works for many years. /tmp on disk is also cleaned on reboot.

> - It allow diskless setups like LTSP to work the same way the default
>   installation in Debian work.  They use read-only NFS-mounted file
>   systems and a writable tmpfs mounted on /tmp/.

But `mount --bind /tmp /home/tmp` or /tmp->/var/tmp also allows read-only
NFS root. And it's even better, because it gives you more free RAM, which
is usually very important for LTSP stations.

>  - It reduces the number of disk writes on a laptop, allowing it to
>   spin down the disk a bit longer.

It does not, because /tmp is mostly unused by default. On the contrary
vm.laptop_mode=1 do it much better than tmpfs. :)

> There are luckily other arguments too. :)

I start thinking that "if you use /tmp on tmpfs you're doing something wrong"
or rather "if you use /tmp on tmpfs you've missed a better option". :)

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Bug#676658: ITP: chemfp -- Cheminformatics fingerprints file formats and tools

2012-06-08 Thread Michael Banck
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Debichem Team 


* Package name: chemfp
  Version : 1.0
  Upstream Author : Andrew Dalke 
* URL : http://code.google.com/p/chem-fingerprints/
* License : MIT
  Programming Lang: C/Python
  Description : Cheminformatics fingerprints file formats and tools

Chem-fingerprints is a set of formats and related tools for the storage,
exchange, and search of cheminformatics fingerprint data sets.
.
It translates fingerprints from the OpenBabel and RDKIT and
cheminformatics packages (as well as the proprietary OEChem package)
into the binary FPS format.  
.
Besides python modules, it provides the following tools:
.
 * sdf2fps - Extract fingerprint data from SD tags
 * ob2fps - Use OpenBabel to generate fingerprints from structures
 * rdkit2fps - Use RDKit to generate fingerprints from structures
 * oe2fps - Use OEChem/OEGraphSim to generate fingerprints from structures
 * simsearch - Do threshold or k-nearest neighbor Tanimoto similarity searches 
   between two FPS files



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Re: gnome is completely f^Mmessed up

2012-06-08 Thread Stefano Canepa

Il 08/06/2012 09:15, Norbert Preining ha scritto:

Hi everyone,

is this only me or do I have the feeling that we are going down
the trench with Gnome?
Repeatedly:
- first login: nautilus segfaults in libnautilus-fileroller.so
   after log out and log in it sometimes works
   starting it manually most of the times work, but not always
- ssh/gpg agent: most of the time just is completely useless
   either does not ask, or just segfaults in libglib-2.0
- plugging/unplugging power cord makes gnome-shell crash (known bug)
- ...
When I finally manage to get a running session, then out of nothing
the blue whale appear, BSOD.

Is this a joke? Are we going to release that in June/July/whenever?

Best wishes

Norbert


I'm having problems with gnome3 too but as I'm using sid I expect to 
have some. If they persist I'm going to fill bugs report, in the 
meanwhile I'm using awesome on my main machine, too (awesome is the 
window manager of choice for my netbook)


I think you'd better to fill bug reports, without them anyone can fix 
problems they don't experience on their systems.


Bye
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Re: Processed: reassign 676001 to busybox

2012-06-08 Thread Michael Tokarev
On 08.06.2012 15:28, maximilian attems wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 02:59:26PM +0400, Michael Tokarev wrote:
>> [Adding debian-devel@ to the Cc list]
>>
>> Short story (and it is short): the bug has been filed
>> against initramfs-tools initially, it is about how
>> /proc and /sys filesystem should be handled in initramfs
>> when switching to new root.  Original reporter included
>> a trivial patch for initramfs that does re-mounting of
>> these filesystems.  Max reassigned it to busybox without
>> giving any reasonings or comments whatsoever.  I explained
>> that it is none of switch_root business, in
>> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=676001#24 ,
>> and asked to not reassign bugs without giving a word of
>> explanation.  After a few days of inactivity I reassigned
>> this bug back to initramfs, per my explanation.  Now max
>> reassigned it back.
> 
> no, no, you get the story wrong.
> 
> The bug on initramfs-tools side is fixed^Wworked-around.
> I reassigned the *cloned* bug to busybox to have it properly
> fixed there.

Aha.  This makes MUCH more sense now.  Somehow I thought you
reassigned just the original bugreport to busybox.

> please get an ice cream and keep cool.
> No need to make a drama out of a simple single bug.

Without the above explanation ("cloned"), it looked to me
like completely wrong thing to do from your side, and
indeed, I become very upset seeing a reassign again without
explanations/comments (these were somehow received later,
after I already sent the "hot" email out).  That's exactly
what I talked about on the initial reassignment -- lack of
any comments.  Now when you explained and I actually looked
at the bug history and noticed the clone operation (#660297),
things become real again.

And no, I can't get an ice cream.  I've a flu currently with
body temperature being 38.6°C, so I guess an ice cream may do
more harm than good.

And in this context, I can buy the argument about busybox not
implementing switch_root functionality from util-linux.

Thank you for explaining things, and I'm sorry for being
upset for nothing.

/mjt


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Bug#676666: ITP: libtest-xpath-perl -- test XML and HTML content and structure with XPath expressions

2012-06-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Jonas Smedegaard 

* Package name: libtest-xpath-perl
  Version : 0.16
  Upstream Author : David E. Wheeler 
* URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Test-XPath/
* License : Artistic or GPL-1+
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : test XML and HTML content and structure with XPath 
expressions

 Test::XPath lets you use the power of XPath expressions to validate the
 structure of your XML and HTML documents.



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Bug#676667: ITP: fmcs -- Find Maximum Common Substructure

2012-06-08 Thread Michael Banck
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Debichem Team 


* Package name: fmcs
  Version : 1.0
  Upstream Author : Andrew Dalke 
* URL : https://bitbucket.org/dalke/fmcs/overview
* License : BSD
  Programming Lang: Python
  Description : Find Maximum Common Substructure

 Fcms finds the maximum common substructure (MCS) of a group (or
 cluster) of chemical structures and report the result as a SMARTS
 string. 
 .
 More specifically, the MCS found is a common edge subgraph, and not a
 common induced subgraph. Only connected MCSes are found. 



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Re: Idea: mount /tmp to tmpfs depending on free space and RAM

2012-06-08 Thread Bjørn Mork
Petter Reinholdtsen  writes:

> [Bjørn Mork]
>> I'd like to add another one:
>>
>> - a tmpfs is always easy to grow without requiring any special
>>   preparations.  Just add more swap.  The swap could be on different
>>   disks, and could even be files hosted on other file systems.
>
> This sound very similar to what I am doing already with LVM and online
> file system growing.  A simple 'lvresize' and 'ext2resize' (or just
> debian-edu-fsautoresize for those of us with that tool available)
> later the full file systems have more free space again. :)
>
> Did I misunderstand you?

No, but those require LVM and available raw disk space.  Swap can always
be added without any such preparation.


Bjørn


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debian-devel@lists.debian.org

2012-06-08 Thread Marco M. F. De Santis
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Marco M. F. De Santis" 


* Package name: hoteldruid
  Version : 2.0.0
  Upstream Author : Marco M. F. De Santis 
* URL : http://www.hoteldruid.com/
* License : AGPLv3
  Programming Lang: PHP
  Description : web based property management system for hotels, hostels 
and b&bs

HotelDruid is designed to manage hotel rooms, bed and breakfast apartments or 
any kind of daily rental.

Reservations can be assigned to rooms automatically with user defined rules. 
Website pages to display and check availability can be created. Includes point 
of sale and statistics reports. Multi-user with groups and privileges system. 
Supports printing, saving and emailing of documents and invoices.

By default uses Sqlite database as backend, with possibility to migrate to 
Mysql or Postgresql.



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Re: [xml/sgml-pkgs] Bug#676686: libxslt1.1: libxslt1.1 binNMU broke multi-arch installability

2012-06-08 Thread Philipp Kern
On Sat, Jun 09, 2012 at 04:36:40AM +0800, Aron Xu wrote:
> Does this mean M-A:same packages should be prevented from being
> binNMUed, but only source upload can be accepted?

You cannot deprive the Release Team of this tool. Also multiarch bugs are IMHO
at most important, not serious. Possibly we could allow one last sourceful
upload when the transitions all settled, but it would again increase the review
load on the release team.

IMHO it's on the "if it works, fine, if not, sorry about that" part of the
list, given that it was finalized so late, with that critical piece missing.

Kind regards
Philipp Kern


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Re: [xml/sgml-pkgs] Bug#676686: libxslt1.1: libxslt1.1 binNMU broke multi-arch installability

2012-06-08 Thread Aron Xu
On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 6:17 AM, Philipp Kern  wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 09, 2012 at 04:36:40AM +0800, Aron Xu wrote:
>> Does this mean M-A:same packages should be prevented from being
>> binNMUed, but only source upload can be accepted?
>
> You cannot deprive the Release Team of this tool. Also multiarch bugs are IMHO
> at most important, not serious. Possibly we could allow one last sourceful
> upload when the transitions all settled, but it would again increase the 
> review
> load on the release team.
>

OK, I get your point, and I never meant not to binNMU is a reasonable idea.

The reason for RC severity is just to prevent the version from
migrating to testing before I've sorted out the M-A mess as much as
possible on my side - for example #671902. Also, there is no important
user-sensible changes (package maintainers and users) in this version,
but mostly improvements to maintainability.

> IMHO it's on the "if it works, fine, if not, sorry about that" part of the
> list, given that it was finalized so late, with that critical piece missing.
>

Sure, I'll get the final version into archive before freeze,
regardless whether there are remaining odd bits of M-A as long as they
aren't affecting normal users.


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Re: [xml/sgml-pkgs] Bug#676686: libxslt1.1: libxslt1.1 binNMU broke multi-arch installability

2012-06-08 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 09 Jun 2012, Philipp Kern wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 09, 2012 at 04:36:40AM +0800, Aron Xu wrote:
> > Does this mean M-A:same packages should be prevented from being
> > binNMUed, but only source upload can be accepted?
> 
> You cannot deprive the Release Team of this tool. Also multiarch bugs are IMHO

Indeed, we cannot.  But there has never been a need to, anyway.

We'd just have to teach the tool to binNMU all arches when the target
package would need it due to multiarch.  Release team requests a binNMU of a
package for some arch, the tool notices it has to do them all because of
multi-arch constraints, and replicates the request for all other arches.

This is even listed in Ubuntu's MultiarchSpec wiki package...

-- 
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  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique Holschuh


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Bug#676712: ITP: python-pyo -- Python module written in C to help digital signal processing script creation.

2012-06-08 Thread Tiago Bortoletto Vaz
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Tiago Bortoletto Vaz 

* Package name: python-pyo
  Version : 0.6.1
  Upstream Author : Olivier Bélanger 
* URL : http://code.google.com/p/pyo/
* License : GPLv3
  Programming Lang: C, Python
  Description : Python module written in C to help digital signal 
processing script creation.

 pyo is a Python module containing classes for a wide variety of audio signal
 processing types. With pyo, user will be able to include signal processing
 chains directly in Python scripts or projects, and to manipulate them in real
 time through the interpreter. Tools in pyo module offer primitives, like
 mathematical operations on audio signal, basic signal processing (filters,
 delays, synthesis generators, etc.), but also complex algorithms to create
 sound granulation and others creative audio manipulations.
 .
 pyo supports OSC protocol (Open Sound Control), to ease communications between
 softwares, and MIDI protocol, for generating sound events and controlling
 process parameters.
 .
 pyo allows creation of sophisticated signal processing chains with all the
 benefits of a mature, and wildly used, general programming language.



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Re: [xml/sgml-pkgs] Bug#676686: libxslt1.1: libxslt1.1 binNMU broke multi-arch installability

2012-06-08 Thread Aron Xu
On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
 wrote:
> On Sat, 09 Jun 2012, Philipp Kern wrote:
>> On Sat, Jun 09, 2012 at 04:36:40AM +0800, Aron Xu wrote:
>> > Does this mean M-A:same packages should be prevented from being
>> > binNMUed, but only source upload can be accepted?
>>
>> You cannot deprive the Release Team of this tool. Also multiarch bugs are 
>> IMHO
>
> Indeed, we cannot.  But there has never been a need to, anyway.
>
> We'd just have to teach the tool to binNMU all arches when the target
> package would need it due to multiarch.  Release team requests a binNMU of a
> package for some arch, the tool notices it has to do them all because of
> multi-arch constraints, and replicates the request for all other arches.
>
> This is even listed in Ubuntu's MultiarchSpec wiki package...
>
>

Yes, but things are a little bit different here. I did request binNMUs
of all archs, but unfortunately buildds of every architecture
generates a unique changelog entry saying the NMU is done by "${arch}
architecture buildd admin", and you already know what would happen, :)

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