Re: RFC transitioning to gnutls28

2011-10-16 Thread Andreas Metzler
Russ Allbery  wrote:
> m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) writes:
>> On Oct 15, Andreas Metzler  wrote:

>>> * It uses nettle instead of gcrypt as crypto backend[1]. Packages that

>> Why?

If gcrypt supported GCM, it might be added back as supported
backend.

> Does that fix the problems with using GnuTLS in setuid programs?

Afaik it should fix this specific issue, yes.

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Processed: Re: Bug#645449: general: freezes on restore from suspend

2011-10-16 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Re: RFC: Making mail-transport-agent Priority: optional

2011-10-16 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Oct 16, Don Armstrong  wrote:

> 1: I should note that I personally use a custom written nullmailer
> plugin which uses ssh to connect to my central mail host and then run
> /usr/lib/sendmail there... granted, that's probably a little bit
> crazy, but it works great for my laptops which are often operating on
> networks which try do all sorts of crazy things to outgoing mail. Some
> people on this list are probably doing other similarly crazy things.
You may want to learn about UUCP. It works, even both ways. :-)

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Bug#645495: ITP: shr-settings -- shr settings application

2011-10-16 Thread Rico Rommel
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Rico Rommel 


* Package name: shr-settings
  Version : 0.1.1
  Upstream Author : 2009-2011 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak 
 2009-2011 yoyo 
 2009-2011 Julien 'Ainulindale' Cassignol


* URL : http://shr-project.org/
* License : GPL3
  Programming Lang: Python
  Description : This package is part of the shr software collection for
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konqueror or webkit problem

2011-10-16 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Dear developers,

since some time I got a little problem with konqueror. Pleas allow me to 
describe:

I am using debian/testing with kde and koqueror. When I call websites with 
pictures on it, konqueror is starting "libreoffice %U" whenever I call a new 
website. I am using "webkit" in koqueror. 

When I change back to KHTML, the error is gone. Sadly I cannot use KHTML, as 
some special sites i am using, are not running well with KHTML (for example 
www.xing.com). Thus I would like to stay at webkit. 

You should also know, that this behaviour appears in iceweasel as well, but 
only when iceweasel is going to be closed - and very seldom, too.

So, as I cannot clearly recognize, which package is responsible for that 
behaviour, I would like to ask, if you heard about this somewhere else. 

This behaviour can be reproduced very well, and it appears on my amd64 machine 
as well on my 32-bit EEEPC. First I thought, it might be a problem with flash, 
but this behaviour appears aslo on my own website, where is no flash content, 
but a picture on it. Strangely, on other sites like debian.org or 
blog.fefe.com, this behavior never appeared.

IMO I would claim the problem to webkit, but I do not know, if webkit is 
sending wrong commands to konqueror, or if konqueror is misunderstanding the 
correct commands of webkit engine.

If you need, there is a strace file available while the error appeared, which I 
will likely send to you.

Sorry, I cannot define the problem more specific, but these are the things I 
can 
clearly see. 

Please feel free to ask for more information, I will be happy to send them to 
you.

Thank you very much!

Best regards

Hans


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Re: RFC: Making mail-transport-agent Priority: optional

2011-10-16 Thread Andrea Bolognani
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 03:50:45PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:

> 1: I should note that I personally use a custom written nullmailer
> plugin which uses ssh to connect to my central mail host and then run
> /usr/lib/sendmail there... granted, that's probably a little bit
> crazy, but it works great for my laptops which are often operating on
> networks which try do all sorts of crazy things to outgoing mail. Some
> people on this list are probably doing other similarly crazy things.

Is the code for this plugin available anywhere?

The proxy one needs to go through to access the Internet from inside my
University buildings cuts off SMTP. I usually just let nullmailer queue
the message so that it is delivered as soon as I connect from home.

When I need to send out a mail immediately, what I do (and this totally
belongs to the “crazy things” section) is to ssh into my exim–running
VPS, grab the formatted mail message from the nullmailer queue and use
the remote sendmail instance to actually send it. Not exactly confortable,
but guaranteed to work.

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Bug#645508: ITP: plasma-widget-message-indicator -- plasma widget to display message indicators

2011-10-16 Thread Felix Geyer
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: The Ayatana Packagers 

* Package name: plasma-widget-message-indicator
  Version : 0.5.8
  Upstream Author : Canonical Ltd.
* URL : https://launchpad.net/plasma-widget-message-indicator
* License : GPLv3
  Programming Lang: C++
  Description : plasma widget to display message indicators

Plasma widget which displays messages from message-indicator
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Re: Move all to /usr

2011-10-16 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:24:09AM +0700, Ivan Shmakov wrote:
> > unruh   writes:
> > On 2011-10-12, Marco d'Itri  wrote:
> 
>   With all the sort of software continuously writing to /etc/?
>   Consider, e. g., /etc/blkid.tab, which is updated almost every
>   time a removable media is connected to the system.  Or
>   /etc/mtab.  Or /etc/lvm/cache/.

These should all be moved to /run.  mtab will be moved shortly.
The LVM and block ID caches should also move there, with backups
put under /var as required.


Regards,
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Bug#645521: ITP: owx -- utility to program Wouxun dual-band handheld radios

2011-10-16 Thread Antoine Beaupré
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Antoine Beaupré" 

* Package name: owx
  Version : 20111015
  Upstream Author : SP5GOF (Adam Wysocki) g...@chmurka.net
* URL : http://owx.chmurka.net
* License : dual: Apache 2.0, beerware
  Programming Lang: C++
  Description : utility to program Wouxun dual-band handheld radios

Open Wouxun (OWX) is a portable, open-source, command-line utility
designed to program Wouxun dual-banders under any modern UNIX
operating system. It supports KG-UV2D, KG-UVD1P and possibly other
radios that identify as KG669V (such as Navcomm TK-890, Midland
TK-790, Albrecht DB-270, Dynascan DB-48 and other brands).

Utility has five functions. They are used to:

- check radio connection
- download binary data from radio
- upload binary data to radio
- export human-readable spreadsheet from binary data file
- import edited spreadsheet into existing binary data file

Binary data contains everything that can be changed in the radio - all 
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Re: RFC: Making mail-transport-agent Priority: optional

2011-10-16 Thread Roger Lynn
On 15/10/11 22:00, Josh Triplett wrote:
> Steve Langasek wrote:
> > Needing to send mail through specific per-user smarthosts is the exception,
> > not the rule.  Most machines have a designated forwarding smarthost based on
> > who their ISP is, not based on which email address someone wants to use.
>
> Every ISP mailserver I've seen, and for that matter almost every other
> mailserver I've seen, requires SMTP AUTH to send mail; the SMTP AUTH
> credentials vary by user.  And for that matter, while most of those
> mailservers[1] will allow sending from email addresses other than the
> one used for SMTP AUTH, many such servers *will* prohibit sending from
> another address at the same domain/service, requiring you to SMTP AUTH
> for that address instead.

I don't believe this is usually the case in the UK. Most mailservers
(both in ISPs and elsewhere) will usually allow unauthenticated
connections from machines connected to their networks. Only if they
allow users to send mail from elsewhere will they require SMTP AUTH.

Roger


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Re: konqueror or webkit problem

2011-10-16 Thread Andrei Popescu
[CCd since I'm not sure you are subscribed]

On Du, 16 oct 11, 12:32:10, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
> Dear developers,
> 
> since some time I got a little problem with konqueror. Pleas allow me to 
> describe:

[snip]

This should better be reposted on debian-user.

Kind regards,
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Re: Periodic automake cleanup: removal of automake1.7

2011-10-16 Thread Rene Engelhard
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 10:20:36PM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
> Rene Engelhard 
>libtextcat

Will not be done. 

I'll not change the build of a dead package (which already would be
replaced with the libexttextcat source package if #644287 was fixed -
which doesn't have a build-dependency on automake1.7).

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Re: Re: RFC: Making mail-transport-agent Priority: optional

2011-10-16 Thread Josh Triplett
Andrea Bolognani wrote:
> The proxy one needs to go through to access the Internet from inside my
> University buildings cuts off SMTP.

Have you checked to see if it blocks SMTPS, or the submission port?
The latter often gets through when port 25 won't, and SMTPS almost
always works.

- Josh Triplett


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Re: Periodic automake cleanup: removal of automake1.7

2011-10-16 Thread Josh Triplett
Eric Dorland wrote:
> * Paul Wise (p...@debian.org) wrote:
> > Shouldn't automake1.4 be first in the queue?
> 
> We could do automake1.4. I hesitate because there may still be older
> software out there that wants automake 1.4's particular set of
> quirks. What do other people think?

Why does automake 1.4 (from 1999) in particular have more software stuck
on it?  I haven't managed to find any information about its quirks that
explains why old software wants 1.4 in particular.

- Josh Triplett


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Re: Periodic automake cleanup: removal of automake1.7

2011-10-16 Thread Eric Dorland
* Josh Triplett (j...@joshtriplett.org) wrote:
> Eric Dorland wrote:
> > * Paul Wise (p...@debian.org) wrote:
> > > Shouldn't automake1.4 be first in the queue?
> > 
> > We could do automake1.4. I hesitate because there may still be older
> > software out there that wants automake 1.4's particular set of
> > quirks. What do other people think?
> 
> Why does automake 1.4 (from 1999) in particular have more software stuck
> on it?  I haven't managed to find any information about its quirks that
> explains why old software wants 1.4 in particular.

The versions after 1.4 were where backwards-incompatible changes
started showing up. As a very unscientific census using google code
search, there are about 36,800 Makefile.in's generated by automake 1.4
on the web, versus 113,000 generated by automake 1.6 and later.

Now clearly we don't need automake 1.4 for Debian's sake, but some
users might still be interested in it for some people to compile old
pieces of software. If there's no such interest, then I have no
problems dropping it.

PS Searches I used:

http://www.google.com/codesearch#search/&q=%22Makefile.in%20generated%20automatically%20by%20automake%22%20-1.2%20-1.3%20-1.5%20file:Makefile.in&type=cs
http://www.google.com/codesearch#search/&q=%22Makefile.in%20generated%20by%20automake%22%20file:Makefile.in&type=cs
 
> - Josh Triplett
> 
> 

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Re: Periodic automake cleanup: removal of automake1.7

2011-10-16 Thread Michael Biebl
Hi!

Am 16.10.2011 23:59, schrieb Eric Dorland:
> 
> Now clearly we don't need automake 1.4 for Debian's sake, but some
> users might still be interested in it for some people to compile old
> pieces of software. If there's no such interest, then I have no
> problems dropping it.

I don't think we should be advocating the usage of automake 1.4 by shipping it
in out next stable release. When all r-deps are fixed I'd prefer dropping it.
In case you need automake 1.4, one can still grab it from squeeze or 
snapshots.d.o

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Re: RFC: Making mail-transport-agent Priority: optional

2011-10-16 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011, Andrea Bolognani wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 03:50:45PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> > 1: I should note that I personally use a custom written nullmailer
> > plugin which uses ssh to connect to my central mail host and then
> > run /usr/lib/sendmail there... granted, that's probably a little
> > bit crazy, but it works great for my laptops which are often
> > operating on networks which try do all sorts of crazy things to
> > outgoing mail. Some people on this list are probably doing other
> > similarly crazy things.
> 
> Is the code for this plugin available anywhere?

http://svn.donarmstrong.com/don/trunk/bin/sshsendmail

Stick it in /usr/lib/nullmailer/sshsendmail, then add something like:

foohost.com sshsendmail --identity=/var/mail/.ssh/id_rsa --username remotemail 
--sendmail-options='-baru...@foohost.com'

to /etc/nullmailer/remotes.

Unfortunately, it's not terribly well documented, because I wrote it
specifically for my craziness, and not for general consumption. [You
can easily see the operation of it and hack it for your purposes,
though.]


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Bug#629029: marked as done (general: Screen scrambled up after hibernation wake up)

2011-10-16 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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  Hello,

after the 2nd or 3rd wake up from hibernation, the screen is all  
scrambled and I have to reboot the computer (maybe killing X would be  
sufficient but in either case, my session goes down the drain).


   Etienne

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Hi Etienne,

etie...@isr.ist.utl.pt wrote:

> after the 2nd or 3rd wake up from hibernation, the screen is all scrambled
> and I have to reboot the computer (maybe killing X would be sufficient but
> in either case, my session goes down the drain).

The package you are looking for is the kernel.  If you use reportbug
to file again, it will automatically include some useful information
about your hardware:

reportbug linux-image-$(uname -r)

Thanks for writing,
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Bug#637965: general: Kernel panic when unmounting partitioned Hitachi X500 USB disk

2011-10-16 Thread Jonathan Nieder
reassign 637965 linux-2.6
forcemerge 634681 637965
quit

Hi José,

José Hipólito Moyano wrote:

> When my hitachi X500 500GB USB external disk is unmounted, it has more than 
> 50%
> probability of cause a kernel panic.

"general" is not the package for kernel bugs.

> Call Trace:
>  [] ? __blk_put_request+0x23/0x8d
[...]
> EIP: [] elv_completed_request+0x33/0x3e SS:ESP 0068:f5c5ff10
[...]
> Pid: 3, comm: ksoftirqd/0 Tainted: G  DO 3.0.0-1-686-pae #1

Nice screenshot. :)   This should be fixed by version 3.0.0-5 from
unstable; if that doesn't work, please feel free to let us know.

Thanks for reporting,
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Processed: Re: general: Kernel panic when unmounting partitioned Hitachi X500 USB disk

2011-10-16 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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> reassign 637965 linux-2.6
Bug #637965 [general] general: Kernel panic when unmounting partitioned Hitachi 
X500 USB disk
Bug reassigned from package 'general' to 'linux-2.6'.
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Bug#634681: linux-image-2.6.39-2-686-pae: Usb oops with 2.6.39 (elv_put_request)
Bug#637965: general: Kernel panic when unmounting partitioned Hitachi X500 USB 
disk
Bug#631187: Kernel panics when removing external hard drive
Bug#633890: [linux-2.6] kernel oops while disconnecting usb cdrom
Bug#636103: linux-image-2.6.39-2-amd64: repeatedly crashes: general protection 
fault, perhaps connected to ata2?
Bug#636263: linux-image-2.6.39-2-amd64: kernel panic when unmounting USB drives
Bug#642043: linux-image-3.0.0-1-amd64 frequently kerneloops on unmounting USB 
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Bug#616317: base: commit= ext3 mount option in fstab has no effect.

2011-10-16 Thread Jonathan Nieder
reassign 616317 initscripts
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Roger Leigh wrote:
> On Sun, May 08, 2011 at 05:24:09AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:

>> Could we not have init remount root based on /etc/fstab?
[...]
> Also, with the version of initscripts in experimental, the domount
> mount helper can remount filesystems with the options from /etc/fstab.

I guess that means this bug was fixed by initscripts 2.88dsf-13.5.

[...]
>> I suppose the problem then is that some
>> mount options can't practically be changed when remounting.  (Worse, the
>> failure to change them is silent in some cases.  And that is definitely
>> a bug.)

That sounds like a separate bug, though probably an important one.
Could you say more about it?  For example, which package would have to
be changed to fix it?

lazily,
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Bug#620133: marked as done (qa.debian.org: auto-ethernet dhcp after dsl-box dont connectet sometimes. no prob with other os)

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hi dear folks,
sometimes eth0 dont becommes ready,
even not after /etc/ init.d/networking restart.
it is connectet to a fritz-box with dhcp.
no problems with ubuntu 10.04 LTS or w2k.
only new systemstart works.
you are my favorits since years  thanks.



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Hi Peter,

Peter Pommerening wrote:

> hi dear folks,
> sometimes eth0 dont becommes ready,
> even not after /etc/ init.d/networking restart.
> it is connectet to a fritz-box with dhcp.
> no problems with ubuntu 10.04 LTS or w2k.
> only new systemstart works.
> you are my favorits since years  thanks.

If you file a new bug against the kernel with reportbug, it will
automatically include some useful information about your
configuration:

reportbug linux-image-$(uname -r)

I'm closing this bug for now, since it does not have enough
information to act on.

Sorry for the trouble,
Jonathan

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Bug#626736: general: can't ping windows machine by name

2011-10-16 Thread Jonathan Nieder
retitle 626736 debian-reference: please explain how to set up NETBIOS name 
resolution
reassign 626736 debian-reference 2.46
severity 626736 wishlist
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Hi Sergey,

sergey wrote:

> I had the next situation some time ago: several computers with
> Windows and one GNU/Linux system connected to router with DHCP
> server. DHCP server dynamically assign IP addresses to this
> machines.
[...]
> I can't use name of machine because GNU/Linux is not support NETBIOS
> name resolution by default.
>
> IMHO it is great secret for typical user that it can be enabled
> througth nsswith.conf. 

This isn't a bug that affects a large subset of the archive, so
"general" was the wrong package to file it against.

Anyway, if I understand correctly, you are saying that the method
for enabling WINS hostname resolution (using nsswitch.conf) is too
difficult to discover.  I'm reassigning to the Debian reference,
so we can consider explaining it in an appropriate place there.

Help of all kinds (finding where to put this text, rough wording,
proofreading) would of course be very welcome.

Thanks for your interest,
Jonathan



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> retitle 626736 debian-reference: please explain how to set up NETBIOS name 
> resolution
Bug #626736 [general] general: can't ping windows machine by name
Changed Bug title to 'debian-reference: please explain how to set up NETBIOS 
name resolution' from 'general: can't ping windows machine by name'
> reassign 626736 debian-reference 2.46
Bug #626736 [general] debian-reference: please explain how to set up NETBIOS 
name resolution
Bug reassigned from package 'general' to 'debian-reference'.
Bug #626736 [debian-reference] debian-reference: please explain how to set up 
NETBIOS name resolution
Bug Marked as found in versions debian-reference/2.46.
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Bug #626736 [debian-reference] debian-reference: please explain how to set up 
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Move mtab, etc. below /run

2011-10-16 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Roger Leigh  writes:
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:24:09AM +0700, Ivan Shmakov wrote:

 >> With all the sort of software continuously writing to /etc/?
 >> Consider, e. g., /etc/blkid.tab, which is updated almost every time
 >> a removable media is connected to the system.  Or /etc/mtab.  Or
 >> /etc/lvm/cache/.

 > These should all be moved to /run.

Indeed.

 > mtab will be moved shortly.  The LVM and block ID caches should also
 > move there, with backups put under /var as required.

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Bug#635157: cups: please support Brother HL-2130 laser printer out of the box

2011-10-16 Thread Jonathan Nieder
retitle 635157 Brother HL-2130 laser printer support
severity 635157 important
severity 618640 important
reassign 635157 cups
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Hi,

micha...@gmail.com wrote:

> Using Squeeze and wanted to install a new Brother HL-2130 laser printer.
> Noticed that the printer is not in the printer list from Debian.
>
> Went to Brother's Linux driver site
> (http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html#HL-2130),
> download the packages and everthing works well.
>
> Suggest to update Debian's driver list (since Brother is providing them) so
> that these working drivers can be added to benefit future users.

Thanks for a nice report.  I'm passing it on to the Debian CUPS
maintainers with this message.



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Bug #635157 [general] Brother HL-2130 laser printer support
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Bug #618640 [cups] CAPT (first-generation Canon winprinters --- e.g. LBP-1120) 
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Bug#635462: general: Update manager freezes when started

2011-10-16 Thread Jonathan Nieder
reassign 635462 update-manager-gnome
tags 635462 + moreinfo
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Hi Eric,

Eric Wilson wrote:

> Package: general

This report concerns one package rather than a large portion of the
archive, so "general" is not the right package.

> Update manager opens then freezes while checking for updates

Could you provide more details?  For example, are you able to close
the program, and how does this compare to symptoms reported in other
bugs against the update-manager-gnome package?



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Bug #635462 [general] general: Update manager freezes when started
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Bug #635462 [update-manager-gnome] general: Update manager freezes when started
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Bug#601455: general: can't stop daemon using /etc/init.d/foo stop when disabled via /etc/default/foo

2011-10-16 Thread Jonathan Nieder
tags 601455 - patch
retitle 601455 multiple, annoyingly different ways to disable an init script
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Hi Mathias,

Mathias Kub wrote:

> When I try to stop a daemon after I disabled it in /etc/default/foo,
> I get an error-message that I can not stop it, because it is
> disabled.
>
> Shouldn't I be able to stop it even if I disabled it first?

Yes, I agree that this is a bug.  Nowadays the appropriate way
to disable an init script is to remove the 'S' links without removing
the 'K' links, for example by running

update-rc.d foo disable

Unfortunately:

 1. That is not as well known is it ought to be.  For example, section
4.6.3. "Restricting access to some server services"[1] of
debian-reference could be clarified to emphasize this method.

 2. Many packages seem to provide ENABLE/DISABLE variables in
/etc/default/foo, providing a confusing red herring for this
task --- a second method which does not work nearly as well,
as you pointed out.

 3. The tempting "update-rc.d foo remove" (which removes the 'K'
links, too) might _seem_ to work, except that the next time the
foo package is upgraded, the service is back again.

One possible way to move forward would be to write a patch to the
debian reference and any other pertinent documentation to address (1)
and (3) and (once consensus that this is a good idea is reached) to
file bugs requesting removal of the ENABLE/DISABLE vars to address (2),
blocking this bug by them.  When the last such variable is eliminated
from the default conffiles in /etc/default, this bug could be closed.

A complicating factor is that the sysadmin may already have customized
some ENABLE/DISABLE settings and a move like this should not override
their settings.  So perhaps packages should stop advertising the
ENABLE/DISABLE vars in /etc/default/, but continue to respect
them when set.

Sane?

Thanks,
Jonathan

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http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch04.en.html#_restricting_access_to_some_server_services



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Bug #601455 [general] general: can't stop daemon using /etc/init.d/foo stop 
when disabled via /etc/default/foo
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when disabled via /etc/default/foo
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Re: Move mtab, etc. below /run

2011-10-16 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 17.10.2011 05:51, schrieb Ivan Shmakov:
>> Roger Leigh  writes:
>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:24:09AM +0700, Ivan Shmakov wrote:
> 
>  >> With all the sort of software continuously writing to /etc/?
>  >> Consider, e. g., /etc/blkid.tab, which is updated almost every time
>  >> a removable media is connected to the system.  Or /etc/mtab.  Or
>  >> /etc/lvm/cache/.
> 
>  > These should all be moved to /run.
> 
>   Indeed.
> 
>  > mtab will be moved shortly.  The LVM and block ID caches should also
>  > move there, with backups put under /var as required.
> 
>   Are there any Bug# one could subscribe to to watch the progress?
> 

http://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/RunDirectory
and specificially
http://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/RunDirectory#Packages_using_.2BAC8-etc

Everyone interested in this release goal is very much welcomed to join the
effort and get those packages fixed.

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Bug#618257: marked as done (general: Single official manual for Debian version 6 does not exist)

2011-10-16 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Excuse me for my bad English :-)

At this time Debian 6 has no official manual - single, full, for exact release.

It has many documentation, but current situation has next problems.

1. Information is separated onto many documents. General themes
like networking is covered by many documents. But this documents:
a) is not full;
b) often describes same questions.
Result: user must make search in many documents to find solution of some 
problem.
User will lost many time.

2. Documentation is often written for "Debian in general", not for exact Debian 
release.
Result: user can read not actual information and he/she will not know about it
some time. This time period will be lost time.

I will give a concrete example now. 

Example 1. Problem: Windows can ping other Windows by name.
Debian with default LXDE installation cannot ping Windows by name.
What should user (not very experienced in Debian) to do to enable 
"ping Windows by name" feature?

Path to solution. 
After filtering more than 20 links at http://www.debian.org/doc 
we have at least 4 documents at Debian web site that can contain answer:
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/
  no such chapter, no answer, lost time
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/
  section "5.1.2. The hostname resolution" has no answer, lost time
http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/
  no such chapter, no answer, lost time
http://wiki.debian.org
  
Debian wiki gives many links:

http://wiki.debian.org/DebianReference/Network
  Citate: "The new "Debian Reference (v2)" is no more build from wiki. Source 
will be available in DDP SVN".
  Cool, what user should do with this? No answer, lost time.

http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration
  no such chapter, no answer, lost time.
http://wiki.debian.org/netconf
  no such chapter, no answer, lost time
http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager
  Debian can work without it. No answer, lost time.
http://wiki.debian.org/SAMBAClientSetup
  no such chapter, no answer, lost time

Result: no answer, lost many time. Documentation at Debian's
website has no description of "ping Windows by name" feature.
Please note that:
1) this feature is supported by Debian 6. So it is strange that it is not 
documented;
2) this is thing that should just work. So it must not eat many user's time.

You can say that user is stupid and he/she just should make better search (like 
people can do at many forums).
But I hope that you will not controvert that Debian's documentation can eat 
many user's time in situations where
good operating system's documentation must not eat many user's time.

You can analize many other user's problems:
- how to set up fast VNC server (what programs or X plugins available, their 
advantages and disadvantages,
  how to configure firewall for VNC, will VNC server work without monitor or 
not, how to set VNC server
  resolution if computer has no monitor etc)?
- how to define primary audio device in ALSA?
- why video playing is very slow with modern videocard and default X settings 
(without xorg.conf)?

I am sure that all this problems have not good solutions in current 
documentation on Debian's
website.

I suggest to make big and great official manual for all next Debian releases.
This manual should cover all possible aspects of using Debian - at least as 
operating system.
Applications and games can be documented later :-)

It may seem that this is impossible because Debian is very big. But good 
operating system must have
good manual! This is not impossible. The way to start creating full manual can 
be the following.

1. Create empty Single Debian Manual based on Wiki conception, so each useror 
developer will be
able to participate in it.
I know that Debian has wiki already, but now this wiki does not have task to 
make full
Debian manual. 

2. I hope that author of each package should write list of tasks that his/her 
package solves.
This list should be inserted into single Debian manual. List should contain the 
link to package documentation.

Steps 1 and 2 are not impossible