Bug#640885: ITP: ruby-ttfunk -- Ruby library to parse TrueType font metrics

2011-09-08 Thread Cédric Boutillier
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Cédric Boutillier" 

Hi!

I would like to package ruby-ttfunk, under the umbrella of Ruby Extras
Team. This font metrics parser is a dependency of a newer version of
libprawn-ruby (soon to be renamed ruby-prawn).

* Package name: ruby-ttfunk
  Version : 1.0.2
  Upstream Author : Gregory Brown  and others
* URL : https://github.com/sandal/ttfunk
* License : Ruby or GPL-2 or GPL-3
  Programming Lang: Ruby
  Description : Ruby library to parse TrueType font metrics

 TTFunk is a TrueType font parser written in pure Ruby.
 It gives access to various data included in a .ttf file, including the
 name, family, subfamily of the font, as well as some metrics information.
 
 TTFunk can be used by Ruby PDF generation libraries, like ruby-prawn.


Best wishes,

Cédric


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Mobile UXes - From the DebConf11 BoF to the stars

2011-09-08 Thread Didier Raboud
Hi all, 

This is the sumary of the discussion held at DebConf11 during the "Mobile 
UXes" BoF, on 2011-07-29, at 18h00 in the meeting room.

(= tl;dr version =)
(Search for "Proposal" down this mail.)
(Please answer to debian-devel@lists.debian.org only. )

The point of this mail is to inform people and communities of the content of 
those discussions and propose a sort-of plan of action. Note that nothing has 
been clearly decided there but the discussion was really nice and promising so 
I sort-of hope the consensus acknowledged upon there can be reflected online.

= Outline =
 0 - Commented overview of the various available stacks
 1 - Proposal for future actions and meet-together

= 0 - Commented overview of the various available stacks =

The initial idea to frame the discussion was to share experiences and opinions 
about known free software mobile stacks: are they packaged in Debian? What has 
been the experience so far? If not, why not?

The main reference to build up this list has been 
http://wiki.debian.org/Smartphone, which is still a good reference! Now to the 
list.

== Android ==

The Canonical effort [0] to port an Android execution environment is currently 
reported as a dead-end. The most free-software-friendly efforts reported are 
IcedRobot [1] and Replicant [2]. They don't seem ready enough for inclusion in 
Debian though but we should keep an eye on them.

[0] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/AndroidExecutionEnvironment
[1] http://icedrobot.org
[2] http://replicant.us/

== MeeGo ==

Back when the MeeGo project was launched, some hoped it could be Debian-based. 
Some persons from the Debian community tried to make that a reality back then 
but didn't succeed. Then the pkg-meego team [3] was formed to get software 
produced by the MeeGo project in Debian. This effort has faced a tough reality 
with regards to project management, interfaces stability, FHS respect, 
trademark policies, etc; and as a result it is currently stalled.

Nowadays, various software pieces produced by or within the MeeGo project are 
probably interesting to get in Debian:

  - Maliit [4] it is the input methods solution used in MeeGo (in particular
it's the project behind the Harmattan virtual keyboard / input method;
also used for the N900/N950 Community Edition)
  - the Tablet User Experience [5] released by Intel earlier this year.
  - Handheld UX in the MeeGo CE form [6]

As a side-note; the software released with the Nokia N9 (of which the "swipe" 
user interface [7] is not known to be available as free software) is available 
as a downloadable qemu image [8].

MeeGo CE [9] is a community effort both to make free MeeGo releases for a few 
smartphones, and to make MeeGo as a project more transparent by being an 
example of a contributing "vendor". Since the project aims for a product level 
quality in the UIs, the packages they've put on top of MeeGo Core and 
integrate back to the Core are interesting for Debian as well. Timo Jyrinki 
wrote a very interesting blogpost on this topic [10].

[3]  http://pkg-meego.alioth.debian.org/
[4]  http://maliit.org
[5]  https://meego.com/downloads/releases/1.2/meego-tablet-developer-preview
[6]  https://build.pub.meego.com/project/packages?project=Project%3ADE%3ATrunk
[7]  http://www.developer.nokia.com/swipe/ux/
[8]  http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/
[9]  http://wiki.meego.com/N900
[10] http://losca.blogspot.com/2011/08/meego-ce-and-freesmartphoneorg.html

== Maemo ==

Maemo [11] is the Debian derivative that powers the Nokia N900 that was one 
branches of the MeeGo merge. Nowadays, both Maemo 6 and Harmattan (software 
basis of the Nokia N9) are reported to be dead-ends. A Debian team [12] was 
formed to work on the inclusion of the Maemo software back in Debian, but it 
decided earlier this year that Maemo is a dead end and removed Maemo related 
software from Debian [13].

It could still make sense to package some of the Maemo GTK themes to make 
running unmodified GTK applications easier on mobile devices. Openmoko also 
produced some.

[11] http://maemo.org
[12] http://wiki.debian.org/pkg-maemo
[13] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.alioth.maemo.maint/1013

== GNOME Mobile & Embedded Initiative ==

The GNOME Mobile & Embedded Initiative was announced in 2007 for developing 
and promoting the use of the GNOME platform in mobile devices. It is not 
packaged in Debian (although the GNOME team might be able to give more 
insightful information) and doesn't seem to have a home on the Internet. It is 
part of the Hackable1 distribution (see below).

== KDE Plasma Active ==

From their website: "KDE Plasma Active [14] aims at creating a cross-device 
user experience for emerging devices such as tablet computers, media centers, 
smartphones, and more." It is currently not packaged in Debian, but some 
members of the pkg-qt-kde team could certainly be interested [15].

[14] http://community.kde.org

Re: Bug#640721: ITP: xf86-video-omap -- X.Org X server -- OMAP display driver

2011-09-08 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Sebastian Reichel  (07/09/2011):
> I would be glad if you can give the package (available from [0]) a
> quick review before I upload it to experimental. You can change
> Architecture to any if you want to build it on a x86 system for
> testing purposes (OMAP chips are ARM based, but the code can be
> compiled on other platforms, too).

You may want to expand the “need opendrm” bits. Mentioning the relevant
package might help users to get stuff they need. I guess you'll mention
that once you have a DKMS-enabled module?

You should specify a versioned build-dep on xserver-xorg-dev (>= 2:1.9.4)
to use the xsf sequence. That would work without it on wheezy or sid, but
would fail on squeeze.

You probably want “mkdir -p m4”. If one interrupts the build, and starts
it again, running “mkdir m4” again will fail.

Looks good otherwise.

Mraw,
KiBi.


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Bug#640917: ITP: liblog-report-perl -- report a problem, pluggable handlers

2011-09-08 Thread Fabrizio Regalli
Package: wnpp
Owner: Fabrizio Regalli 
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org

* Package name: liblog-report-perl
  Version : 0.94
  Upstream Author : Mark Overmeer
* URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Log-Report/
* License : Artistic or GPL-1+
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : report a problem, pluggable handlers and language
support

Handling messages to users can be a hassle, certainly when the same
module is used for command-line and in a graphical interfaces, and has
to cope with internationalization at the same time; this set of modules
tries to simplify this.
Log::Report combines gettext features with Log::Dispatch-like features.
However, you can also use this module to do only translations or only
message dispatching.



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Re: Bug#640721: ITP: xf86-video-omap -- X.Org X server -- OMAP display driver

2011-09-08 Thread Sebastian Reichel
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 02:23:51PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> Sebastian Reichel  (07/09/2011):
> > I would be glad if you can give the package (available from [0]) a
> > quick review before I upload it to experimental. You can change
> > Architecture to any if you want to build it on a x86 system for
> > testing purposes (OMAP chips are ARM based, but the code can be
> > compiled on other platforms, too).
> 
> You may want to expand the “need opendrm” bits. Mentioning the relevant
> package might help users to get stuff they need. I guess you'll mention
> that once you have a DKMS-enabled module?

I will add a Recommends statement and update the description when
the DKMS package is ready.

> You should specify a versioned build-dep on xserver-xorg-dev (>= 2:1.9.4)
> to use the xsf sequence. That would work without it on wheezy or sid, but
> would fail on squeeze.
> You probably want “mkdir -p m4”. If one interrupts the build, and starts
> it again, running “mkdir m4” again will fail.

OK.

> Looks good otherwise.

thanks for the review.

-- Sebastian


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Re: Mobile UXes - From the DebConf11 BoF to the stars

2011-09-08 Thread Hector Oron
Hello,

2011/9/8 Stefano Zacchiroli :
> On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 10:36:17AM +0200, Didier Raboud wrote:

>> c) Create a new Alioth project, 'mobile-ux', with associated
>> mailing-lists and a wiki page.

> Given you are going to provide a central discussion forum for Debian
> "mobile" stuff, you might want to be a bit more bold and request the
> "debian-mobile@lists.d.o" mailing list. That might provide some more
> visibility to this laudable initiative.

"mobile-ux" was proposed instead "mobile", so it makes it more clear,
that UX is the primary focus, as low level software is already handled
by other debian or upstream mailing lists, i.e. debian-kernel,
debian-arm, linux-arm-kernel, ... Debian seems to have all parts
needed for mobile world, but a it lacks a mobile GUI, while it has too
many desktop oriented GUI, none of those seem to fit the mobile
market.

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Re: Maintainers, porters, and burden of porting

2011-09-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 08:58:34AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> TL;DR: I think that we should have a discussion about the respective
> roles & responsibilities of maintainers and porters with regard to
> porting.

I've re-read this discussion a couple of times, with the intention of
summarizing it and propose how to proceed. The discussion has been
interesting, and it even seems to me that several of the positions
expressed are in fact in agreement with each other, despite the various
rebuttals on marginal points. My problem is that the *concrete* goal of
this discussion is obscure to me.

Let me recap. The problem raised by Lucas is clearly concrete. There are
hard porting bugs out there and they might hit packages with a lot of
reverse dependencies ("key packages") such as Ruby. Due to incomplete
knowledge, often neither porters nor maintainers working alone will be
able to fix them. That's why collaboration among the two is what we
recommend. But it also happens that some of those bugs are too hard to
fix, maybe temporarily due to manpower shortage, maybe for a long time.

We can clarify responsibilities and push them nearer maintainers or
nearer to porters, but I don't think that would change anything. It's
not like an overworked (or MIA) porter (or maintainer) will be more
likely (or more able) to fix a bug, just because suddenly it's more of
their responsibility to do so than it was before. So, *if* the point of
the discussion is assigning responsibility --- point that seems to be
the most controversial of the thread --- I don't think I see the point.

Still, this kind of discussion is recurrent. We clearly need to do
something about it. Here are a couple of proposals:

- We have an unhealthy asymmetry: a package $pkg who has never been
  built (or has never worked without anybody noticing) on $arch don't
  get in the way of a maintainer, while if $pkg suddenly stops working
  on $arch it will get in the way of the maintainer as it blocks testing
  migration.

  I think maintainers should be empowered more to fiddle with the
  Architecture list of their packages, but also that they should give
  some sort of explanation (as simple as bug report pointers) for the
  architectures they do not support.  In the Ruby example, if the
  maintainer has tried to fix the porting issue, asked the porters for
  help, and still failed, then he should be allowed to file a "RM: ruby"
  request (Pabs' point in this thread).

  As observed by Phil, there will be a big fallout for a package like
  Ruby. But *if* everything else have been tried by both maintainers and
  porters, we don't have many other options. My point is: if the
  maintainers were "allowed" not to support $arch for a NEW package in
  Debian, they should be "allowed" to do the same for a subsequent
  version. The point of the justification is to discourage maintainers
  not to support $arch just because they are too lazy to do so.

  Hopefully, not having $pkg on $arch would raise the visibility of the
  issue and attract attention to fix the issue. In the meantime, the
  fact that $pkg is not on $arch (and the justification for that) could
  be used by the release team as a basis to decide whether $arch is in a
  releasable state or not, exactly as it would be if $pkg were a NEW
  package in the archive.

- Being able to judge whether the maintainers have done their part in
  reaching out to porters is a requisite for the above. And to do so, we
  really need more visibility of those exchanges. According to devref
  [1], the contact points we currently recommend are both the
  debian-$arch mailing lists and the $a...@buildd.debian.org addresses.

  Is there any reason why the latter are not public? Or, conversely, is
  there any reason why we cannot expect that people on $arch@buildd.d.o
  are also on debian-$arch lists (maybe forcing specific mail
  conventions to reduce mail load on people running the buildds)?

[1] http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.html#porting

> Release team, there's a question for you regarding ruby1.9.1 in the
> last paragraph.

Has this one been answered? (unless it was a rhetoric question :))

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Re: Maintainers, porters, and burden of porting

2011-09-08 Thread Andreas Barth
* Stefano Zacchiroli (z...@debian.org) [110908 19:22]:
>   I think maintainers should be empowered more to fiddle with the
>   Architecture list of their packages, but also that they should give
>   some sort of explanation (as simple as bug report pointers) for the
>   architectures they do not support.  In the Ruby example, if the
>   maintainer has tried to fix the porting issue, asked the porters for
>   help, and still failed, then he should be allowed to file a "RM: ruby"
>   request (Pabs' point in this thread).

I disagree a bit here, tripple actually.

In any case, the package maintainer should ask the porters for help.
Just removing an architecture from the list of supported architectures
isn't a proper way to deal with it. Failing to get sufficient support,
removing then is still an option (and if urgent testing migration is
required speaking with the release team helps).

Also, if a package doesn't build, changing the architecture list has
no impact on the testing migration. The only relevant action is
removing the relevant binary packages. The architecture list could be
the same - it has no impact at all at the testing migration.

And last not least, if a package has many / relevant reverse
dependends, the package maintainer should speak with the release team
first because the package (e.g. ruby without sparc) won't make it to
testing anyways otherwise.

>   Hopefully, not having $pkg on $arch would raise the visibility of the
>   issue and attract attention to fix the issue. In the meantime, the
>   fact that $pkg is not on $arch (and the justification for that) could
>   be used by the release team as a basis to decide whether $arch is in a
>   releasable state or not, exactly as it would be if $pkg were a NEW
>   package in the archive.

I disagree with "let's first remove things". If a package like ruby
doesn't build on sparc this bug report is RC exactly as long as sparc
is a release arch. The release team has (and does) override such bug
reports for testing migration if appropriate. Removing the binary
package doesn't help at all but just makes things worse. So please
don't do it, especially for packages with reverse dependencies.


> - Being able to judge whether the maintainers have done their part in
>   reaching out to porters is a requisite for the above. And to do so, we
>   really need more visibility of those exchanges. According to devref
>   [1], the contact points we currently recommend are both the
>   debian-$arch mailing lists and the $a...@buildd.debian.org addresses.
> 
>   Is there any reason why the latter are not public?

Yes. Because one of the most frequent users is the security team
asking where this and that security build is. We don't want that
public for obvious reasons.


>   Or, conversely, is
>   there any reason why we cannot expect that people on $arch@buildd.d.o
>   are also on debian-$arch lists (maybe forcing specific mail
>   conventions to reduce mail load on people running the buildds)?

Yes.

The difference is:
$arch@buildd is to reach the buildd admins.
debian-$arch is to reach the porters.

There might be overlaps, but it's definitly not the same. Porting and
maintaining a buildd are two different tasks, and the required skills
for porting are different than for maintaining a buildd. I know good
porters who are bad buildd admins, and good buildd admins who are bad
porters.

The current setup allows e.g. to shift buildds around as needed for
vacations, which would be way more ugly if I would have to subscribe
to all porter lists.



Andi


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Re: Maintainers, porters, and burden of porting

2011-09-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
[ No Cc: please ]

On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 07:34:41PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> I disagree a bit here, tripple actually.

Actually, I think we are in agreement:

- I've said that contacting the porters is a prerequisite before
  fiddling with the Arch list. RM is the last option.

- With "fiddling with the Arch list" I didn't mean only the Architecture
  line, but generally acting on the arch binaries of a given package,
  including actions such as RM (my bad for the unclearness)

> And last not least, if a package has many / relevant reverse
> dependends, the package maintainer should speak with the release team
> first because the package (e.g. ruby without sparc) won't make it to
> testing anyways otherwise.

I agree with this as well. FWIW, in this specific case the maintainer
has done exactly so (and is waiting for an answer).

> I disagree with "let's first remove things".

Me too :-)  I haven't said "first", but "last".

> Yes. Because one of the most frequent users is the security team
> asking where this and that security build is. We don't want that
> public for obvious reasons.

> The difference is:
> $arch@buildd is to reach the buildd admins.
> debian-$arch is to reach the porters.

Fair enough, but porting issues often appear first as buildd issues and
if we expect maintainers to contact buildd maintainers before proceeding
with other investigations, it would be way better if at least those
exchanges were public.

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Re: Maintainers, porters, and burden of porting

2011-09-08 Thread Andreas Barth
* Stefano Zacchiroli (z...@debian.org) [110908 19:53]:
> On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 07:34:41PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:

> > Yes. Because one of the most frequent users is the security team
> > asking where this and that security build is. We don't want that
> > public for obvious reasons.
> 
> > The difference is:
> > $arch@buildd is to reach the buildd admins.
> > debian-$arch is to reach the porters.

> Fair enough, but porting issues often appear first as buildd issues and
> if we expect maintainers to contact buildd maintainers before proceeding
> with other investigations, it would be way better if at least those
> exchanges were public.

I wouldn't expect maintainers to contact them first. I would expect
them to contact buildd admins if it looks as buildd (e.g. "package is
building since a week but no log or upload" or "log says successful
but no upload").

However, I wouldn't complain at anybody who contacts porters directly,
there is some information flow between porters and buildd admins, and
also some porters have access to change wanna-build states. It might
just be that contacting porters isn't the fastest way to get it done.

Looking at my inbox and the mips porter list, this part seems to work
reasonably well.



Andi


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Bug#640954: ITA: unclutter -- hides the cursor in X after a period of inactivity

2011-09-08 Thread Axel Beckert
Package: wnpp
Severity: normal

Daniel Baumann has orphaned unclutter [1] without filing an according
"O:" bug, hence this initial ITA.

  [1] http://packages.qa.debian.org/u/unclutter/news/20110908T084841Z.html

He also already removed the previous packaging git repository[2], but
I cloned a copy before that and started to continue the packaging at
[3].

  [2] http://git.debian-maintainers.org/?p=daniel/unclutter.git
  [3] http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/unclutter.git

Co-maintainers welcome.

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Re: Mobile UXes - From the DebConf11 BoF to the stars

2011-09-08 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Hector Oron wrote:

> Debian seems to have all parts needed for mobile world,
> but a it lacks a mobile GUI

E17 is available in Debian and has a mobile GUI, also in Debian. We do
need more finger friendly apps and UI themes though, specifically more
stuff from SHR.

On the non-X11 side of things, getting QtMoko in would be nice.

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Re: Mobile UXes - From the DebConf11 BoF to the stars

2011-09-08 Thread Axel Beckert
Hi,

Hector Oron wrote:
> >> c) Create a new Alioth project, 'mobile-ux', with associated
> >> mailing-lists and a wiki page.
> >
> > Given you are going to provide a central discussion forum for Debian
> > "mobile" stuff, you might want to be a bit more bold and request the
> > "debian-mobile@lists.d.o" mailing list.

Seconded.

> "mobile-ux" was proposed instead "mobile", so it makes it more clear,

Well, I think "UX" is a uncommon and not very well-known abbreviation
I had to google twice since DebConf what it stands for. My first
thought always that it's a strange abbreviation for "Unix".

> that UX is the primary focus, as low level software is already handled
> by other debian or upstream mailing lists, [...]

Why then "UX" and not "GUI"?

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Bug#640970: ITP: ibus-googlepinyin -- googlepinyin engine for ibus

2011-09-08 Thread YunQiang Su
Package: wnpp
Severity:   wishlist
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org

Package name: ibus-googlepinyin
Version: 0.1.1
Upstream Author : Jiahua Huang 
URL: http://code.google.com/p/libgooglepinyin/
License: GPLv2+
Programming Lang: python
Description: googlepinyin engine for ibus


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Mistake in postrm preventing functioning of newer package (stable/testing/unstable)

2011-09-08 Thread David Paleino
Hello fellow developers,
recently I uploaded a new version of bpython -- from 0.9.7.1-1 to 0.10.1-1 --
and I switched from dh_pysupport to dh_python2 in the meanwhile.

However, I didn't notice a huge upgrade bug: 0.9.7.1-1's postrm inconditionally
removed /usr/lib/python*/*-packages/bpython (I can't exactly remember why I put
it there in the first place), and this seems to have effect on files installed
by 0.10.1-1 as well -- with dh_python2, symlinks are shipped in the package and
not created at install-time.

The first solution I thought was to re-switch from dh_python2 to dh_pysupport,
fixing the postrm and waiting for the package to enter testing. Only then,
upload a dh_python2 version to sid.

However, the buggy postrm is also present in stable, so the above trick won't
work when users will upgrade from stable to new-stable.

Since there's a point release coming, I wonder whether the right course of
action now is: fixing the package in stable plus what described above.

I'm CCing also debian-release, to check if a fix would be ok (I'd just remove
the postrm altogether).

Here's the buggy postrm (not present anymore in current sid's package):
http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/bpython.git;a=blob;f=debian/postrm;h=4e4a5210885d193617ead71438f8f36770999835;hb=cb96a5958ebd821e86fcc0cbd69ffb6bafd97380#l26

Thanks for any suggestion,
David

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