Re: Alioth status update, take 3
Hi Roland, Cc:ing this mail to debian-devel and debian-edu ML first of all: Thanks for all the efforts you spend on maintaining (and lately upgrading) Alioth!!! And... ...in Hamburg and Trondheim there will be two DebianEdu developer gatherings this weekend. However, (for me) there seems to be a problem with DebianEdu's SVN repositories (and probably others). Maybe I am just doing something essentially wrong, when trying to access the new Alioth servers, but maybe there really is an issue and in case of that, the DebianEdu group really needs your help today!!! Let me just say, that I can access git repositories on Alioth (vasks) via SSH pubkey auth. So, the basic access to the new servers works for me. The problem I encountered this morning is rather SVN specific. On Sa 28 Mai 2011 11:27:57 CEST Roland Mas wrote: Yaroslav Halchenko, 2011-05-23 22:39:48 -0400 : where previously available could be now? http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/dep/web/deps/dep5.mdwn?op=file both http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/dep/ http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/deps/ seems to be empty 1. This morning I tried to update my subversion copy (svn.debian.org/svn/debian-edu) and the action failed: my SVN URL for Debian Edu is: svn+ssh://svn.debian.org/svn/debian-edu/trunk/src 2. I then tried to checkout a new working copy via svn+ssh, which also fails: mike@minobo:~/MyDocuments/4projects$ svn co -q svn+ssh://svn.debian.org/svn/debian-edu/trunk/src debian-edu svn: To better debug SSH connection problems, remove the -q option from 'ssh' in the [tunnels] section of your Subversion configuration file. svn: Netzwerkverbindung wurde unerwartet geschlossen 3. I also tried to peer at viewvc, this works, but the WebGUI of ViewVC is not really comparable with WebSVN. Especially, if you want to use it for viewing logs and diffs. 4. I tried to seek for WebSVN, but the WebSVN is seemingly gone. Questions: o am I maybe just getting something wrong, missing something? o do you have a clue what this problem might be (in case I am not missing something)? o can we (DebianEdu Team) solve the issues ourselves? o if there is a bug on svn.debian.org, is there a chance that you can fix it today?!? o is there a change of gettings WebSVN back? Maybe also today? I hope this is just a false alarm and the problem is on my side... Thanks for taking a look!!! Mike -- DAS-NETZWERKTEAM mike gabriel, dorfstr. 27, 24245 barmissen fon: +49 (4302) 281418, fax: +49 (4302) 281419 GnuPG Key ID 0xB588399B mail: mike.gabr...@das-netzwerkteam.de, http://das-netzwerkteam.de freeBusy: https://mail.das-netzwerkteam.de/freebusy/m.gabriel%40das-netzwerkteam.de.xfb pgpdafCn2SRlB.pgp Description: Digitale PGP-Unterschrift
Re: Alioth status update, take 3
El vie, 03-06-2011 a las 09:49 +0200, Mike Gabriel escribió: > Hi Roland, > Cc:ing this mail to debian-devel and debian-edu ML > > first of all: Thanks for all the efforts you spend on maintaining (and > lately upgrading) Alioth!!! > > And... > > ...in Hamburg and Trondheim there will be two DebianEdu developer > gatherings this weekend. However, (for me) there seems to be a problem > with DebianEdu's SVN repositories (and probably others). Maybe I am > just doing something essentially wrong, when trying to access the new > Alioth servers, but maybe there really is an issue and in case of > that, the DebianEdu group really needs your help today!!! > > Let me just say, that I can access git repositories on Alioth (vasks) > via SSH pubkey auth. So, the basic access to the new servers works for > me. The problem I encountered this morning is rather SVN specific. > > On Sa 28 Mai 2011 11:27:57 CEST Roland Mas wrote: > > > Yaroslav Halchenko, 2011-05-23 22:39:48 -0400 : > > >> where previously available could be now? > >> http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/dep/web/deps/dep5.mdwn?op=file > >> > >> both > >> http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/dep/ > >> http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/deps/ > >> seems to be empty > > 1. > This morning I tried to update my subversion copy > (svn.debian.org/svn/debian-edu) and the action failed: my SVN URL for > Debian Edu is: > svn+ssh://svn.debian.org/svn/debian-edu/trunk/src > > 2. > I then tried to checkout a new working copy via svn+ssh, which also fails: > > > mike@minobo:~/MyDocuments/4projects$ svn co -q > svn+ssh://svn.debian.org/svn/debian-edu/trunk/src debian-edu > svn: To better debug SSH connection problems, remove the -q option > from 'ssh' in the [tunnels] section of your Subversion configuration > file. > svn: Netzwerkverbindung wurde unerwartet geschlossen > > That's easy to fix, you have to remove the old keys from yor /home/minobo/.ssh/known_hosts file. If you don't know how to find them, just try ssh min...@svn.debian.org and you'll see the message with the wrong ssh keys. Regards. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Alioth status update, take 3
Hi José, hi Roland, On Fr 03 Jun 2011 09:52:08 CEST "José L. Redrejo Rodríguez" wrote: 2. I then tried to checkout a new working copy via svn+ssh, which also fails: mike@minobo:~/MyDocuments/4projects$ svn co -q svn+ssh://svn.debian.org/svn/debian-edu/trunk/src debian-edu svn: To better debug SSH connection problems, remove the -q option from 'ssh' in the [tunnels] section of your Subversion configuration file. svn: Netzwerkverbindung wurde unerwartet geschlossen That's easy to fix, you have to remove the old keys from yor /home/minobo/.ssh/known_hosts file. If you don't know how to find them, just try Ahhh... well... I had realized this when SSH'ing directly, but had not tried the svn update command afterwards... What a confusing error description given by SVN. So, that is fixed. So my request gets reduced to this... """ However, re-introducing WebSVN on Alioth would still be a nice-to-have thing... """ Greets, Mike -- DAS-NETZWERKTEAM mike gabriel, dorfstr. 27, 24245 barmissen fon: +49 (4302) 281418, fax: +49 (4302) 281419 GnuPG Key ID 0xB588399B mail: mike.gabr...@das-netzwerkteam.de, http://das-netzwerkteam.de freeBusy: https://mail.das-netzwerkteam.de/freebusy/m.gabriel%40das-netzwerkteam.de.xfb pgpKRVrr7kkHl.pgp Description: Digitale PGP-Unterschrift
Re: Bug#628953: O: mercurial-buildpackage -- Utillities for maintaining a deb package in Hg repository
Hello, On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 16:11:19 +0200 Jens Peter Secher wrote: > Native package written by yours truly. Pristine-tar part does not > work anymore, reason unknown. Everything is written in haXe, which > entails some problems wrt. Process control & input/output, and I have > created a branch (combined-process-input-output) in which I have > started taking care of these problems, but you will need a good deal > of dedication. I will help if needed. Jens, I always wanted to ask, why doesn't it sign the .dsc/.changes files? Or does it? -- WBR, Andrew signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
On 05/26/2011 07:54 AM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > ]] Scott Kitterman > > | Was there some discussion of this with Alioth users before it got > | changed? > > No. > > And while I apologise for the problems we've had with the migration, I'd > like to ask people to just accept some of the changes we've made even > though you think it makes URLs uglier. They're done to avoid cyclic > dependencies between services. Please explain that. I can't see how a cyclic dependency could happen there. And I still think loosing the old names is a very annoying PITA. -- Bernd ZeimetzDebian GNU/Linux Developer http://bzed.dehttp://www.debian.org GPG Fingerprints: ECA1 E3F2 8E11 2432 D485 DD95 EB36 171A 6FF9 435F -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4de89df6.9070...@bzed.de
Has dak gone fishing ?
Hello, Is there a problem with dak ? I've uploaded a package about 12 hours ago, with no acknowledgment so far. I can't help noticing too that debian-devel-changes hasn't seen any activity since yesterday lunch time. Or am I being simply way too impatient ;-) ? Cheers, Vincent -- Vincent Fourmond, Debian Developer http://vince-debian.blogspot.com/ find(1): A `%' at the end of the format argument causes undefined behaviour since there is no following character. In some locales, it may hide your door keys, while in others it may remove the final page from the novel you are reading. Vincent, not listening to anything for now -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4de8a6a2.10...@debian.org
Bug#629073: ITP: akuma -- Embeddable daemonization library for Java
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: James Page * Package name: akuma Version : 1.4 Upstream Author : Kohsuke Kawaguchi * URL : http://java.net/projects/akuma * License : MIT Programming Lang: Java Description : Embeddable daemonization library for Java This is a Java library you can use in your application to support Unix daemonization. By taking advantages of POSIX API, this library lets you fork your process into background with proper daemonization steps. This is a dependency for packaging Jenkins. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110603105456.22230.37687.reportbug@hendrix.shouse.local
Re: Has dak gone fishing ?
Hi, Am 03.06.2011 11:17, schrieb Vincent Fourmond: > Is there a problem with dak ? I've uploaded a package about 12 hours > ago, with no acknowledgment so far. I can't help noticing too that > debian-devel-changes hasn't seen any activity since yesterday lunch time. some haskell upload stopped it but Ansgar could fix the bug. Cheers, Torsten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4de8bdab.8030...@debian.org
Re: Has dak gone fishing ?
On 03/06/11 12:55, Torsten Werner wrote: > Hi, > > Am 03.06.2011 11:17, schrieb Vincent Fourmond: >> Is there a problem with dak ? I've uploaded a package about 12 hours >> ago, with no acknowledgment so far. I can't help noticing too that >> debian-devel-changes hasn't seen any activity since yesterday lunch time. > > some haskell upload stopped it but Ansgar could fix the bug. Great thanks for the quick fix ! Vincent -- Vincent Fourmond, Debian Developer http://vince-debian.blogspot.com/ I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone. -- Bjarne Stroustrup Vincent, not listening to anything for now -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4de8c29a.1080...@debian.org
Bug#629083: ITP: sezpoz -- Lightweight library for modular service lookups
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: James Page * Package name: sezpoz Version : 1.9 Upstream Author : Jesse Glick * URL : http://sezpoz.java.net/ * License : CDDL or GPL-2 with Classpath exception Programming Lang: Java Description : Lightweight library for modular service lookups SezPoz is a lightweight and simple-to-learn library that lets you perform modular service lookups. It provides some of the same capabilities as (for example) java.util.ServiceLoader, Eclipse extension points, and NetBeans Lookup and XML layers. However, SezPoz has some special advantages: * The service registrations are made just using type-checked Java annotations. There are no configuration files to edit, and your Java IDE can show you registrations since they are simply usages of an annotation. * You can register individual objects (values of static fields or methods) instead of whole classes. * You can associate static metadata with each implementation, using regular annotation values. The caller can choose to inspect the metadata without loading the actual implementation object (as with Eclipse extension points). This package is required to support packaging of jenkins. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110603122938.2819.75905.reportbug@hendrix.shouse.local
Re: Uploading to multiple distros
On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 06:17:09PM -0700, Evan Broder wrote: > Hmm...a lot of this discussion seems to be getting caught up in the > ubuntu-devel moderation queue, but I'll try to guess context as best > as I can... The moderation queue doesn't have any outstanding messages for this thread, though maybe it did when you looked. It's also possible that some folks are subscribed to debian-devel but not ubuntu-devel. -- - mdz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110603134911.gm19...@alcor.net
Re: Uploading to multiple distros
Peter Samuelson writes ("Re: Uploading to multiple distros"):
> Since syncs from Debian are actually supposed to be the majority of
> packages in Ubuntu anyway, why not just do that - a real sync, not a
> fake simultaneous one. [...]
Because that means that the Ubuntu developer needs to wait for Debian
to process the upload (which may involve waiting for NEW or other kind
of approvals).
> I suppose you mean put that functionality into this syncpackage thing.
> Because otherwise you're still going to need to run dpkg-genchanges
> twice, once presumably by hand with some sort of suite override switch,
> and that does rather break the abstractions of debian/rules, debhelper,
> and the like.
dpkg-buildpackage could run dpkg-genchanges as many times as there
were target suites.
Ian.
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Re: Uploading to multiple distros
Matt Zimmerman writes ("Re: Uploading to multiple distros"):
> On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 01:54:37PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > And if the package is not accepted into the Debian archive for any reason,
> > the changelog is very misleading because it looks like a sync from Debian.
>
> True, but perhaps harmless.
Well, it would normally result in the next sync being a pure sync from
Debian (since it would look like the previous Ubuntu version was in
sync with Debian) and perhaps the changes in the upload that went only
to Ubuntu would be dropped.
> > One way to enable simultaneous uploads would be to arrange for
> > dpkg-genchanges to filter out suites for "other" distros when
> > generating the .changes file. Then you would have the same files
> > being uploaded but two different .changes files.
>
> Yes, it seems like it would be straightforward enough to generate two
> appropriate .changes files for this case, and it would do the right thing.
Right, that's what I think I'm suggesting.
Ian.
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Re: Semantic change for dpkg triggers?
On 6/2/2011 8:33 AM, Ian Jackson wrote: In general, the reason for this rule about satisfying dependencies is that a triggering package may well not be functional at all until the trigger is run. For example, if the triggering package T needs to be registered with the interested package I, a package D which depends on T may find that T does not work - and D's postinst may fail due to T being broken. If postinst depends on the package, then it should be a pre-depend, not a depend, shouldn't it? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4de91824.4030...@cfl.rr.com
Re: Semantic change for dpkg triggers?
On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 01:21:40PM -0400, Phillip Susi wrote: > On 6/2/2011 8:33 AM, Ian Jackson wrote: > >In general, the reason for this rule about satisfying dependencies is > >that a triggering package may well not be functional at all until the > >trigger is run. For example, if the triggering package T needs to be > >registered with the interested package I, a package D which depends on > >T may find that T does not work - and D's postinst may fail due to T > >being broken. > If postinst depends on the package, then it should be a pre-depend, > not a depend, shouldn't it? Absolutely not. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.org/ slanga...@ubuntu.com vor...@debian.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Uploading to multiple distros
On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 05:55:18PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Peter Samuelson writes ("Re: Uploading to multiple distros"):
> > Since syncs from Debian are actually supposed to be the majority of
> > packages in Ubuntu anyway, why not just do that - a real sync, not a
> > fake simultaneous one. [...]
> Because that means that the Ubuntu developer needs to wait for Debian
> to process the upload (which may involve waiting for NEW or other kind
> of approvals).
Ubuntu policy on package versioning holds that you shouldn't upload such a
package to Ubuntu before it's been approved into Debian *anyway*, lest you
end up with the package rejected in Debian and two different source packages
with the same version number in Debian vs. Ubuntu...
> > I suppose you mean put that functionality into this syncpackage thing.
> > Because otherwise you're still going to need to run dpkg-genchanges
> > twice, once presumably by hand with some sort of suite override switch,
> > and that does rather break the abstractions of debian/rules, debhelper,
> > and the like.
> dpkg-buildpackage could run dpkg-genchanges as many times as there
> were target suites.
To upload to both Debian and Ubuntu, it would also have to pass different
options since Ubuntu accepts only source uploads and Debian does not accept
source-only uploads.
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distinguish between "core" and "main"?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi folks, Having 3+ packages within a single "main" repository is pretty bulky. Would it be possible to distinguish between the "core" Debian and "main" somehow? I don't want to keep anybody out. I just would like to use the core packages of Debian release xyz (all the essential packages, for example) together with more up-to-date packages in testing (kernel & drivers, development tools, eye candy, games, etc). I checked Google for this, but I didn't find it mentioned before. Regards Harri -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3pxoAACgkQUTlbRTxpHjfBMgCfecRKDdPb3QZZriyZiMEY8IYx 3QEAn2AOCNFqAudYrBxNeFzQJ5gIvIe4 =GseN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4de9c680.70...@afaics.de
Re: distinguish between "core" and "main"?
Sounds like you are looking for backports.debian.org? -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/BANLkTinAFUyM1LUDT=szcawxsxx403g...@mail.gmail.com
Re: distinguish between "core" and "main"?
On Sat, June 4, 2011 07:45, Harald Dunkel wrote: > Having 3+ packages within a single "main" repository is > pretty bulky. Would it be possible to distinguish between > the "core" Debian and "main" somehow? > > I don't want to keep anybody out. I just would like to use > the core packages of Debian release xyz (all the essential > packages, for example) together with more up-to-date > packages in testing (kernel & drivers, development tools, > eye candy, games, etc). I think package priorities may help you. Debian Policy describes what types of packages to expect in each of these, and you may decide that for your purposes you take required, required+important or required+important+standard to be "core Debian": http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html#s-priorities Thijs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e2d706e63e854b3c34f2d5badfc024d4.squir...@wm.kinkhorst.nl
Re: [fedora-arm] Does anyone care about LSB on arm?
On Wed, 2011-06-01 at 12:25 +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > sooo... although the situation *right now* is that nobody in the > commercial world is the slightest bit interested in LSB because they > all do "custom builds" of complete software stacks, it could be said > that *if* the free software community just dropped ready-to-go LSB > standards in front of their noses, they'd quite likely use it. The reason we're discussing this is because a new architecture isn't going to be supported in standards like LSB overnight. It might take some time, and by that time, things may have changed with respect to the adoption of ARM systems. But if we don't think ahead, we're forced to be reactionary and try to do this (probably less effectively) later on. Nobody will be forced to adopt LSB, but general purpose distributions can benefit from having compatibility at the software level. Is this an issue for deeply embedded platforms? Not so much. Is it bad that Android rebuilds the Universe? It's their decision to make. I think we need to distinguish between traditional embedded uses of ARM parts, which will continue, and those of larger parts running general a purpose OS. I don't expect to see Fedora running on my cellphone, but I do have it running on a netbook quite nicely - the latter needs LSB more. I'll leave the rest of the rhetoric alone :) Jon. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307165537.27070.835.ca...@constitution.bos.jonmasters.org
Re: distinguish between "core" and "main"?
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