Re: packaging-dev meta package

2011-05-28 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi,

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 07:10:24PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > A few days ago, we had a discussion in Ubuntu about a packaging-dev meta
> > package. The problem is that users have to install a bunch of packages
> > if they want to dive into packaging. Even some packagers get annoyed
> > when they need to turn a newly installed system into a packaging
> > environment. The solution would be a meta package that depends on the
> > commonly used packages for packaging.
> 
> Hello Benjamin,
> 
> I think that it is a good idea, and would like to suggest to add debian-policy
> to the contents of this metapackage.

I like the idea as well and if I where you I would issue an ITP and
upload a first version.  The discussion became a bit longish but I do
not really see a reason for this.  A lot of people who are not happy
about the idea seem to be no potential users of this package - so they
will ignore it and you can probably ignore their concerns as well.

If there might be issues by real users of the package you can finally
work down these by fixing bug reports against it.

Kind regards

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Bug#628195: ITP: libthrust -- C++ template library for CUDA

2011-05-28 Thread Andreas Beckmann
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Andreas Beckmann 


* Package name: libthrust
  Version : 1.4.0
  Upstream Author : Jared Hoberock and Nathan Bell (both from NVIDIA research)
* URL : http://thrust.googlecode.com/
* License : Apache-2.0, some files also Boost-1.0
  Programming Lang: C++/CUDA
  Description : Thrust - C++ template library for CUDA

 Thrust is a CUDA library of parallel algorithms with an interface resembling
 the C++ Standard Template Library (STL). Thrust provides a flexible high-level
 interface for GPU programming that greatly enhances developer productivity.
 Develop high-performance applications rapidly with Thrust!
 .
 The Compute Unified Device Architecture (CUDA) enables NVIDIA
 graphics processing units (GPUs) to be used for massively parallel
 general purpose computation.

Package can be found here:
svn://svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-nvidia/packages/libthrust/trunk

Andreas



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Re: packaging-dev meta package

2011-05-28 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:44:33PM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> >dh-make
> 
> Seriously? Are you, grown-up developers, using it? oO

Me, not anymore since it switched to debhelper7 'dh' mode. Before that,
it contained a number of useful debian/rules templates for "old"style
debhelper-only usage.

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Re: packaging-dev meta package

2011-05-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Wouter Verhelst wrote:

> Me, not anymore since it switched to debhelper7 'dh' mode. Before that,
> it contained a number of useful debian/rules templates for "old"style
> debhelper-only usage.

dh-make still contains the long-style debhelper rules templates, as
well as cdbs templates:

dh_make --rulesformat old
dh_make --rulesformat cdbs

The default changing to short-style debhelper is not a good reason to
stop using dh-make. Even if it dropped the long-style debhelper rules
templates it could still be useful to you.

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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-05-28 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Bernd Zeimetz may or may not have written...

[snip]
> Please provide a proper gitweb instance or at least a proxy at that url
> to the anonscm gitweb instanace.

I'm still seeing directory listings instead of the expected repository pages
for /hg/xine-lib/*...

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Multiarch bootstrapping

2011-05-28 Thread Luk Claes
Hi

Currently there are still some outstanding issues before we can really
start using multiarch. You can find the status at the wiki page [1].

It seems that the main blocker at the moment is bug #618288 in apt.

Please help to fix the outstanding bugs for the build tools (pmake,
freebsd-buildutils, cmake) and apt so we can start using multiarch!

Cheers

Luk

[1] http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/Bootstrapping


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Re: Multiarch bootstrapping

2011-05-28 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 14:48, Luk Claes  wrote:
> It seems that the main blocker at the moment is bug #618288 in apt.

Fixed in branch for a while, just not yet uploaded. [0]

But it can't be a blocker as dpkg doesn't has full support for multiarch
in unstable currently - and if you can't install foreign packages its pretty
unlikely that you will hit this bug. ;)


Best regards

David Kalnischkies

[0] http://bzr.debian.org/scm/loggerhead/apt/debian-sid/revision/2114.1.38
(link doesn't work currently through)


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Re: Multiarch bootstrapping

2011-05-28 Thread Matthias Klose

On 05/28/2011 02:48 PM, Luk Claes wrote:

Currently there are still some outstanding issues before we can really
start using multiarch. You can find the status at the wiki page [1].



[1] http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/Bootstrapping


your changes here are wrong.
http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/Bootstrapping?action=diff&rev1=28&rev2=29
at least the eglibc and gcc-4.6 uploads didn't happen yet.


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Bug#628285: RFP: xul-ext-pencil -- GUI prototyping and diagram tool

2011-05-28 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: xul-ext-pencil
  Version : 1.2
  Upstream Author : Nguyen Tien Dung 
* URL : http://pencil.evolus.vn
* License : GPL2+
  Programming Lang: Javascript / Xulrunner app
  Description : The Sketching and GUI Prototyping addon for 
Firefox/Iceweasel

The Pencil Project's unique mission is to build a free and opensource tool for
making diagrams and GUI prototyping that everyone can use.

Top features:

Built-in stencils for diagraming and prototyping
Multi-page document with background page
Inter-page linkings!
On-screen text editing with rich-text supports
Exporting to HTML, PNG, Openoffice.org document, Word document and PDF.
Undo/redo supports
Installing user-defined stencils and templates
Standard drawing operations: aligning, z-ordering, scaling, rotating...
Cross-platforms
Adding external objects
Personal Collection
Clipart Browser
Object snapping
Sketchy Stencil
And much more...

I discovered this software a few weeks ago and I would like to see it packaged
for Debian (but I don't want to do it myself).

It should probably be maintained under the umbrella of the pkg-mozext team:
http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebianMozExtTeam

Unfortunately the current version is not compatible with Firefox 4 yet.

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Re: Multiarch bootstrapping

2011-05-28 Thread Luk Claes
On 05/28/2011 03:52 PM, Matthias Klose wrote:
> On 05/28/2011 02:48 PM, Luk Claes wrote:
>> Currently there are still some outstanding issues before we can really
>> start using multiarch. You can find the status at the wiki page [1].
> 
>> [1] http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/Bootstrapping
> 
> your changes here are wrong.
> http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/Bootstrapping?action=diff&rev1=28&rev2=29
> at least the eglibc and gcc-4.6 uploads didn't happen yet.

Ok, please mention the bug numbers.

Thanks in advance.

Cheers

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Re: Please reconsider public vcs naming on alioth

2011-05-28 Thread Ian Jackson
Bernd Zeimetz writes ("Re: Please reconsider public vcs naming on alioth"):
> On 05/27/2011 02:51 PM, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
> >> That means you can no longer commit to git.d.o, so you'll have to use
> >> git-commit.d.o or something similar for pushes.
> > 
> > Would you expect to be able to push to git.debian.org?
> 
> Yes. It is easy to remember and personally I fail to understand why it
> should not be possible to find a sane way to make it available.

The question is, if the alioth admins find it difficult, which is more
important: anonymous pull and/or gitweb from git.debian.org, or ssh
push to git.debian.org ?

I think the answer is obviously the former.  Someone who pushes to a
repo already needs to know about it, set up keys, etc.  A visitor who
just wants to download may know nothing and just guess urls.

Ian.


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Re: Multiarch bootstrapping

2011-05-28 Thread Luk Claes
On 05/28/2011 03:32 PM, David Kalnischkies wrote:
> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 14:48, Luk Claes  wrote:
>> It seems that the main blocker at the moment is bug #618288 in apt.
> 
> Fixed in branch for a while, just not yet uploaded. [0]
> 
> But it can't be a blocker as dpkg doesn't has full support for multiarch
> in unstable currently - and if you can't install foreign packages its pretty
> unlikely that you will hit this bug. ;)

Can you please point me to the bug that still needs to be fixed in dpkg
to be able to install foreign packages?

Thanks in advance.

Cheers

Luk


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Re: packaging-dev meta package

2011-05-28 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 02:20:48PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 04:52:38PM -0400, Mackenzie Morgan wrote:
> > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Benjamin Drung  wrote:
> > > Recommends or Suggests:
> > > cdbs
> > > cmake
> 
> > My reasoning on these two was that some people probably aren't
> > interested in switching from cdbs to quilt, so coming across packages
> > still using it will be common for a while.  CMake is a corollary to
> > autoconf and heavily used in KDE-land, which seems like a
> > not-insignificant number of packages.
> 
> But in both cases, those should be pulled in as build-depends, no?

Well, I think it is worthwhile to be able to modify and build source
packages without having to install the full Build-Depends.  Do you
usually need to have cmake installed to run the clean target?  If so,
that might be a reason to include it.


Michael


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Re: packaging-dev meta package

2011-05-28 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Michael Banck  writes:

> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 02:20:48PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
>> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 04:52:38PM -0400, Mackenzie Morgan wrote:
>> > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Benjamin Drung  wrote:
>> > > Recommends or Suggests:
>> > > cdbs
>> > > cmake
>> 
>> > My reasoning on these two was that some people probably aren't
>> > interested in switching from cdbs to quilt, so coming across packages
>> > still using it will be common for a while.  CMake is a corollary to
>> > autoconf and heavily used in KDE-land, which seems like a
>> > not-insignificant number of packages.
>> 
>> But in both cases, those should be pulled in as build-depends, no?

Isn't this supposed to be a "give me everything I might need" meta
package for people that want to start a new package or debianize
something new? In that case they won't have any Build-Depends yet.

Or for setting up a developement chroot for use with many packages. To
get a suitable starting point so that not every single user will have to
send in a "Please install foo" request.

> Well, I think it is worthwhile to be able to modify and build source
> packages without having to install the full Build-Depends.  Do you
> usually need to have cmake installed to run the clean target?  If so,
> that might be a reason to include it.
>
>
> Michael

Then don't install this package. I don't think it unlikely someone would
want to write/work on a package that uses cmake. Just like other people
would write/work on a package that uses automake. They might not need
cmake/automake all the time but they will most of the time.


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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-28 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 27 May 2011 21:58:30 +0200 Tollef Fog Heen wrote:

> ]] Francesco Poli 
> 
> | Could someone please confirm that pushing to
> | ssh://git.debian.org/git/apt-listbugs/apt-listbugs.git
> | should work as before and won't break anything?
> 
> It should.

Thank you very much for your kind confirmation.
I've just pushed one commit and everything seems to have worked as
it used to work before the alioth migration!   :-)

> If you get errors from post-commit/post-push hooks about
> stuff not being installed or not working, tell us (the Alioth admins,
> ad...@alioth.debian.org) about it and we'll try to get it fixed.

The commits mailing list (apt-listbugs-commits@l.a.d.o) received the
e-mail message corresponding to the commit; I am not aware of any other
post-commit/post-push hooks.
I haven't seen any errors on stdout or stderr, while pushing with git
(or should I look somewhere else?).
I think everything went fine.

> 
> | Could someone confirm that the host key is the one announced in
> | http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/05/msg7.html
> | for vasks.debian.org?
> 
> That should be correct, yes.

I confirm!   :-)

> Or you could grab it from the known hosts
> file on any debian.org host (or https://db.debian.org/machines.cgi)

I am not a DD, hence I don't (think I) have access to any of those
boxes...
Anyway, the messages to debian-devel-announce@l.d.o were enough to
check the fingerprints...

> 
> Regards,

Once again: thanks a lot for your kind reply!
Bye.

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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-28 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 28 May 2011 18:23:50 +0200 Francesco Poli wrote:

> On Fri, 27 May 2011 21:58:30 +0200 Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
[...]
> > If you get errors from post-commit/post-push hooks about
> > stuff not being installed or not working, tell us (the Alioth admins,
> > ad...@alioth.debian.org) about it and we'll try to get it fixed.
> 
> The commits mailing list (apt-listbugs-commits@l.a.d.o) received the
> e-mail message corresponding to the commit; I am not aware of any other
> post-commit/post-push hooks.
> I haven't seen any errors on stdout or stderr, while pushing with git
> (or should I look somewhere else?).
> I think everything went fine.

Oops, I probably spoke too early.
I received a bounce via e-mail!

I am forwarding it to adminn@a.d.o ...


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Bug#628400: ITP: autopostgresqlbackup -- Automated tool to make periodic backups of PostgreSQL databases

2011-05-28 Thread Emmanuel Bouthenot
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Emmanuel Bouthenot 

* Package name: autopostgresqlbackup
  Version : 1.0
  Upstream Author : Aaron Axelsen 
* URL : http://projects.frozenpc.net/autopgsqlbackup/
* License : GPL-2
  Programming Lang: shell script
  Description : Automated tool to make periodic backups of PostgreSQL 
databases

 autopostgresqlbackup is a shell script (usually executed from a cron job)
 designed to provide a fully automated tool to make periodic backups of
 PostgreSQL databases. autopostgresqlbackup extract databases into flat files
 in a daily, weekly or monthly basis.
 .
 autopostgresqlbackup is a PostgreSQL port of automysqlbackup.



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Bug#628401: ITP: openni -- framework for sensor-based 'Natural Interaction'

2011-05-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Hans-Christoph Steiner" 


* Package name: openni
  Version : 1.1.0.41
  Upstream Author : OpenNI.org
* URL : http://http://openni.org/
* License : GPL, LGPL
  Programming Lang: C++, C#
  Description : framework for sensor-based 'Natural Interaction'

 OpenNI is a framework for getting data to support 'Natural Interaction',
 i.e. skeleton tracking, gesture tracking, and similar ways of getting data
 from humans. OpenNI provides the interface for physical devices and for
 middleware components. The API enables modules to be registered in the OpenNI
 framework, which then produce sensory data. OpenNI also allows selection of
 different hardware and middleware modules.



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Bug#628402: ITP: primesense-nite-nonfree -- OpenNI module providing gesture and skeleton tracking

2011-05-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Hans-Christoph Steiner" 


* Package name: primesense-nite-nonfree
  Version : 1.1.0.41
  Upstream Author : Cosimo Alfarano 
* URL : http://wiki.debian.org/PrimeSenseNite
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: sh
  Description : OpenNI module providing gesture and skeleton tracking

 This package will download the binary PrimeSense NITE modules for OpenNI and
 creates a debian packages you can install.  These modules provide two types
 of tracking to OpenNI: 'Control By Gesture' and 'Games for All'.  'Control By
 Gesture' is gesture tracking for using arm movements for navigating menus, it
 provides gesture tracking for things like push, click, circle, and
 wave. 'Games for All' is skeleton tracking for getting information on the
 position of all of the joints of the body.
 .
 WARNING: Installing this Debian package causes the
 PrimeSense NITE modules to be downloaded from www.primesense.com
 The End User License Agreement of NITE modules 
 is available at www.primesense.com.



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Re: Multiarch bootstrapping

2011-05-28 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sat, 28 May 2011, Luk Claes wrote:
> On 05/28/2011 03:32 PM, David Kalnischkies wrote:
> > On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 14:48, Luk Claes  wrote:
> >> It seems that the main blocker at the moment is bug #618288 in apt.
> > 
> > Fixed in branch for a while, just not yet uploaded. [0]
> > 
> > But it can't be a blocker as dpkg doesn't has full support for multiarch
> > in unstable currently - and if you can't install foreign packages its pretty
> > unlikely that you will hit this bug. ;)
> 
> Can you please point me to the bug that still needs to be fixed in dpkg
> to be able to install foreign packages?

You can use this branch if you want to test the latest code:
git clone -b pu/multiarch/full git://git.debian.org/~hertzog/dpkg.git

What needs to happen is to merge the branch and for this Guillem must be
happy with it and thus he must review it and ask me to fix whatever he
doesn't like.

But I have been using it without troubles for several months (since end of
february) and it's been deployed in Ubuntu 11.04 where it's working fine
too.

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Bug#628421: ITP: xyscan -- data thief for scientist

2011-05-28 Thread Georges Khaznadar
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Georges Khaznadar 


* Package name: xyscan
  Version : 3.22
  Upstream Author : Thomas S. Ullrich 
* URL : 
http://star.physics.yale.edu/~ullrich/xyscanDistributionPage/
* License : GPL-3+
  Programming Lang: C++
  Description : data thief for scientist

 xyscan is a tool for scientist in the need to extract data points,
 i.e. numeric values, from a plot. It allows you to scan the plots and
 extract data points including the size of the error bars (both in x
 and y). It can handle plots with linear and logarithmic scales. In
 fact xyscan can be used for extracting numeric values from any kind
 of 2D technical drawings.



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Bug#628434: ITP: python-whiteboard -- Make your own electronic whiteboard

2011-05-28 Thread Georges Khaznadar
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Georges Khaznadar 


* Package name: python-whiteboard
  Version : 0.9.6
  Upstream Author : pnegre 
* URL : https://github.com/pnegre/python-whiteboard
* License : GPL-2
  Programming Lang: Python
  Description : Make your own electronic whiteboard

 python whiteboard is a program that lets you build your own
 electronic whiteboard. You only need a wii remote and a IR pen



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Bug#628445: ITP: primesense-kinect-sensor -- Microsoft Kinect sensor modules for the OpenNI framework

2011-05-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Hans-Christoph Steiner" 


* Package name: primesense-kinect-sensor
  Version : 5.0.1.32
  Upstream Author : PrimeSense 
* URL : http://www.openni.org/
* License : GPL, LGPL
  Programming Lang: C++, C#
  Description : Microsoft Kinect sensor modules for the OpenNI framework

 OpenNI is a framework for getting data to support 'Natural Interaction',
 i.e. skeleton tracking, gesture tracking, and similar ways of getting data
 from humans. This package provides modules for OpenNI that get the data from
 the Kinect camera for processing with the OpenNI Middleware, like PrimeSense
 NITE.
 .
 This module is an unofficial 'avin2' branch of PrimeSense Sensors patched for
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Unable to ssh to alioth (Was: Alioth status update, take 3)

2011-05-28 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi,

On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 10:35:00PM +0200, Roland Mas wrote:
> 
>   We should now be in the phase where we pretend it's done, wait for the
> complaints, and fix the problems as they are reported (or laugh them off
> when they come from the too-common expectation that Alioth can be used
> to run any random stuff by anyone).

I can confirm that I was able to checkout and commit to svn.debian.org until
yesterday evening.  Now it fails and the reason seems to be:

~$ ssh -v svn.debian.org
...
debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct
debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent
debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS
debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received
debug1: Roaming not allowed by server
debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent
debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received
debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey
debug1: Next authentication method: publickey
debug1: Offering public key: /home/tillea/.ssh/id_rsa-debian
debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey
debug1: No more authentication methods to try.
Permission denied (publickey).


I can login to people.debian.org and if I try from there I get:

tille@ravel:~$ ssh -v alioth.debian.org
...
debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct
debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent
debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS
debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received
debug1: Roaming not allowed by server
debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent
debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received
debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey
debug1: Next authentication method: publickey
debug1: Trying private key: /home/tille/.ssh/id_rsa
debug1: Trying private key: /home/tille/.ssh/id_dsa
debug1: No more authentication methods to try.
Permission denied (publickey).


I do not have a key file on people.d.o and wanted to try password
authentication from there.

Any idea what to do?

Kind regards

 Andreas.

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