Bug#611880: ITP: webkit2pdf -- export web pages to PDF files

2011-02-03 Thread Ricardo Mones
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Ricardo Mones 

* Package name: webkit2pdf
  Version : 0.1
  Upstream Author : Colin Leroy 
* URL : http://webkit2pdf.sourceforge.net/
* License : GPLv2+
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : export web pages to PDF files

Webkit2pdf is a little GTK+ tool designed to fetch web pages and
export them to numbered PDF files (or to print them).
.
Specifying paper size and output directory is also supported.



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Re: Bug#611880: ITP: webkit2pdf -- export web pages to PDF files

2011-02-03 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Ricardo Mones  (03/02/2011):
>   Description : export web pages to PDF files
> 
> Webkit2pdf is a little GTK+ tool designed to fetch web pages and
> export them to numbered PDF files (or to print them).
> .
> Specifying paper size and output directory is also supported.

Hope this helps:

  $ apt-cache show wkhtmltopdf | sed -n '/^Description/,$p'
  Description: Command line utility to convert html to pdf using WebKit
   wkhtmltopdf is a command line program which permits to create a
   pdf from an url, a local html file or stdin. It produces a pdf like
   rendred with the WebKit engine.
   .
   This program requires an X11 server to run.
  Homepage: http://code.google.com/p/wkhtmltopdf/
  Tag: implemented-in::c++, interface::x11, role::program, uitoolkit::qt, 
use::converting, works-with::text, works-with-format::html, x11::application

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Re: Bug#611880: ITP: webkit2pdf -- export web pages to PDF files

2011-02-03 Thread Luca Bruno
Ricardo Mones scrisse:

> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: Ricardo Mones 
> 
> * Package name: webkit2pdf
>   Version : 0.1
>   Upstream Author : Colin Leroy 
> * URL : http://webkit2pdf.sourceforge.net/
> * License : GPLv2+
>   Programming Lang: C
>   Description : export web pages to PDF files
> 
> Webkit2pdf is a little GTK+ tool designed to fetch web pages and
> export them to numbered PDF files (or to print them).
> .
> Specifying paper size and output directory is also supported.

Have you seen cutycapt[0] already? I see no advantages in having
webkit2pdf in Debian too, so far. Care to compare and expand your
rationale?

[0] http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/cutycapt

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Re: Bug#611880: ITP: webkit2pdf -- export web pages to PDF files

2011-02-03 Thread Fabian Greffrath
There is also webkit-image, which currently only exports to PNG image 
format, though.


[0] http://packages.debian.org/source/sid/webkit-image


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Bug#611895: ITP: django-kombu -- Kombu transport using the Django database as a message store

2011-02-03 Thread Fladischer Michael
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Fladischer Michael 

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* Package name: django-kombu
  Version : 0.9.1
  Upstream Author : Ask Solem 
* URL : http://github.com/ask/django-kombu/
* License : BSD
  Programming Lang: Python
  Description : Kombu transport using the Django database as a message store

This package provides a message store for Kombu inside a Django database. 
It is intended be used together with python-kombu and provides a transport 
for it.


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Re: Bug#611880: ITP: webkit2pdf -- export web pages to PDF files

2011-02-03 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO En  cette fin  de matinée  radieuse du jeudi  03 février  2011, vers
11:15, Cyril Brulebois  disait :

>   $ apt-cache show wkhtmltopdf | sed -n '/^Description/,$p'

OoO En  cette fin  de matinée  radieuse du jeudi  03 février  2011, vers
11:19, Luca Bruno  disait :

> Have you seen cutycapt[0] already? I see no advantages in having
> webkit2pdf in Debian too, so far. Care to compare and expand your
> rationale?

> [0] http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/cutycapt

It seems neither cutycapt nor wkhtmltopdf (as compiled in Debian) allows
to convert hyperlinks. Does webkit2pdf allows this?
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Re: tcl8.5 breaks dpkg-cross assumptions and multiarch

2011-02-03 Thread Wookey
+++ Loïc Minier [2011-02-01 12:50 +0100]:
> On Tue, Feb 01, 2011, Wookey wrote:
> > But if something is looking for arch-independent stuff in /lib then in
> > general that's wrong, and I'm not aware of any examples of
> > correctly-packaged packages that need this. Any arch-independent files
> > will be supplied by an arch all package that the build should depend
> > on if needed.
> 
>  I might be getting your point wrong, but I certainly see a lot of files
>  in /lib itself which are arch-independent data used for early boot
>  (before /usr is available); PNG files and text files which would be
>  identical on all architectures.

Sorry, I wasn't being very clear. By 'something is looking for
arch-independent stuff in /lib' I really mean in /usr//lib,
used during cross-building, (which will be put there by dpkg-cross-ed
packages) (or in /usr/lib/ or /lib/ put there by
dpkg on multiarch systems). 

Yes there are various things in /lib that are not arch-dependent.
dpkg-cross does not put most(any?) of those in -cross packages. In fact this
is so true that it doesn't copy /usr/lib/tcl8.5/tclConfig.sh over into
the cross package either. I should have checked that. Bum. 

dpkg-cross in fact only picks files out of packages by positive
identification as libraries or headers. It misses out generic 'other
stuff' in ((/usr)/lib, which generally works pretty well, but in
this tcl case it's not suffient for tcl-depending apps to cross-build.

Bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=599206 discusses
this issue.

dpkg-cross is intended to put files needed for cross-building into
-cross packages and it's currently missing this one out. Unfortunately
because it doesn't match any of the 'standard paterns for cross-useful
files' this can only be fixed by adding a fairly specific regexp,
which is worrying close to special-casing or deciding that in fact
just fishing out specific things from /usr/lib is too conservative and we
should take the view that everything in /usr/lib is potentially useful
in cross-building and should be copied into -cross packages. 

In multiarch world everything in (/usr)/lib is going to end up in
/usr/lib/ or /lib/, unless packages are
re-arranged to put them elsewhere, and we expect this to work
fine so perhaps dpkg-cross should start doing the same thing, and thus
discuver any problems this does potentially create. Would
that actually do any harm? What files which are currently missed out
of -cross packages would actually cause breakage if copied over into
/usr//lib? 

I just tried a modified dpkg-cross on a pile of packages and whilst
many come out the same, you do get quite a lot more files in some
packages and some packages that were previously null now have stuff in
them. e.g apache-modules. So there is quite a lot of bloat, but
probably no breakage.

Internally we will use a dpkg-cross modified to add
/usr/lib/*/tclConfig.sh to the list of things that are important for
cross-building. This means we will notice any other 'awkward
cases' due to missing files.

An alternative view is that anything (such as sqlite3) depending on
tclConfig.sh to build tcl extensions is broken and should be changed
to use some other mechanism, and until then simply cannot be
cross-built using the dpkg-cross mechanism. I am not familiar enough
with tcl extensions to know if this is a reasonable stance or not, but
given that it works just fine, and it's not hard to deal with, and
(after the fix in debian bug#611650) it will carry on 'just working'
in multiarch, I'm not convinced this is a reasonable stance. 

Which leaves us with deciding whether to just copy over tclConfig.sh
or everying in /usr/lib/*/* in dpkg-cross? 

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Re: tcl8.5 breaks dpkg-cross assumptions and multiarch

2011-02-03 Thread Neil Williams
On Thu, 3 Feb 2011 15:39:49 +
Wookey  wrote:

> dpkg-cross in fact only picks files out of packages by positive
> identification as libraries or headers. It misses out generic 'other
> stuff' in ((/usr)/lib, which generally works pretty well, but in
> this tcl case it's not suffient for tcl-depending apps to cross-build.
> 
> Bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=599206 discusses
> this issue.

... and http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=611736 is
probably going to be the root bug (renamed) to handle the clarification
of exactly what files we keep and how we rationalise the legacy regular
expressions in dpkg-cross.

Please add further specific cases to that bug.

> dpkg-cross is intended to put files needed for cross-building into
> -cross packages and it's currently missing this one out. Unfortunately
> because it doesn't match any of the 'standard paterns for cross-useful
> files' this can only be fixed by adding a fairly specific regexp,
> which is worrying close to special-casing or deciding that in fact
> just fishing out specific things from /usr/lib is too conservative and we
> should take the view that everything in /usr/lib is potentially useful
> in cross-building and should be copied into -cross packages. 

Generally, from a cursory view of what is left out, the situation we
have is this:

0: dpkg-cross supports autotools cross-building through a series of
very detailed, very complex and potentially fragile regular expressions
but, importantly, ALSO uses a series of very detailed, very complex and
potentially equally fragile regular expressions on the CONTENTS of
those files, some of which Debian is quietly trying to drop from
packages because of other problems. (e.g .la files)

1: dpkg-cross has explicit support for pkg-config which appears to work
perfectly well, principally because pkg-config is inherently less
complex than the entirety of autoconf|automake|libtool|dpkg-shlibdeps
etc.

2: dpkg-cross has support for CMake - although only as a direct result
of 0: and 1:

3: dpkg-cross has no idea how to help SCons or any number of other
build systems out there, but then it mostly doesn't have to because
many of those simply don't compile stuff, (they create Arch:all
packages) and the ones that do compile stuff aren't used by sufficient
numbers of cross-building people for sufficient complaints to be seen
for dpkg-cross to have had the support created.

4: Nobody gave a damn about Tcl until sqlite added bindings.

5: Nobody adds support to dpkg-cross until someone complains loudly
enough *and* comes up with sane patches.

6: dpkg-cross has huge amounts of legacy code which someone added at
somepoint because it was important but nobody has actually had the guts
to unilaterally remove because we can't tell if the original package
has since been fixed. (s/fixed/broken in a different way/).

> In multiarch world everything in (/usr)/lib is going to end up in
> /usr/lib/ or /lib/, unless packages are
> re-arranged to put them elsewhere, and we expect this to work
> fine so perhaps dpkg-cross should start doing the same thing, and thus
> discuver any problems this does potentially create. Would
> that actually do any harm? What files which are currently missed out
> of -cross packages would actually cause breakage if copied over into
> /usr//lib? 

Let's not break dpkg-cross fundamentally for everyone though. We can
choose to make a different dpkg-cross which is FAR simpler (because it
blindly moves files without any kind of safeguard) but as this does not
involve fixing the contents of certain files, numerous autotools
packages will break. So, if people want a broken dpkg-cross for
testing, let's have a dpkg-multi-cross which breaks their
cross-building world (using a different Provides: and conflicting with
the "standard" cross packages) and leave the existing world alone.

That version of dpkg-multi-cross would be trivial to write - unpack
the .deb, unconditionally move all files in ./usr/lib to ./usr/$triplet,
handle /usr/include and remove everything else. Repack the .deb as
-cross. Break world.
 
> I just tried a modified dpkg-cross on a pile of packages and whilst
> many come out the same, you do get quite a lot more files in some
> packages and some packages that were previously null now have stuff in
> them. e.g apache-modules. So there is quite a lot of bloat, but
> probably no breakage.

Retaining the changes to the contents of the files whilst simply adding
lots more *stuff* to -cross packages is the least harmful option.
However, because the contents haven't changed, it doesn't actually help
us identify the issues that would arise with Multiarch much.

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[SRI-NEWS] Keeping on thinking in two dimensions we will not solve the problem. Join the Space Renaissance!

2011-02-03 Thread Adriano Autino TDF

SPACE RENAISSANCE INTERNATIONAL - NEWS NO. 2 2011

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Upcoming FTPMaster meeting

2011-02-03 Thread Joerg Jaspert
Hello world,

i just want to take the opportunity that everyone is watching the final
preparations for Squeeze to announce our next FTPMaster meeting. Your
beloved team of FTPMasters will meet from the 21st til 27th of March in
the LinuxHotel in Essen. During the weekend one of the wanna-build
admins will join in.

Similar to our last big meeting in Essen late in 2009 we again expect to
have the archive turned off for much of the meeting time. I think
expecting just something like "one dinstall per day, with packages
accepted shortly before" is reasonable, but maybe there is a day or ten
without even that. But we will keep you updated like we did last time,
it is hard to exactly pin down today what will happen when during that
week.


As we know that the services we offer are pretty central to Debian and
many people depend on what we do, we realize there are lots of people
whose work is closely related to ours. Should you be one of those and
run a service that can profit from something we can provide, or could
profit from certain changes on our side - and you want to kick that off
to get a better service from us: Please reply to me off-list and we can
see if we can work something out for you to join us for the weekend. (I
need a reason to see if it fits into the meeting and a half-way accurate
amount your travel will cost[1]). Currently we can plan for about 3 more
people.

[1] If you fly, Cologne or Duesseldorf are nearby. Frankfurt works too,
especially good if you come in from far away. Obviously train takes
a bit longer from there.
From wherever you get in, the final train station you want to get to
is called "Horst S-Bahnhof Essen (Ruhr)".


Attached below is a tentative agenda. This is an unsorted list and we
might not get to every point. We might also have missed any number of
points, if so feel free to tell us about them.


* Switch to use release codenames primarily inside dak, not
  testing/unstable/foo (if not done at release time already, which we
  try)

* Database "acl" set, ie. ability to merge security into main archive,
  but not have everyone see everything...

* Leaf packages. that is, the possibility of having small packages in
  the archive, without bloating the packages files as a "full package"
  would. Somehow, less information stored for them. Like only "Package",
  "Installed-Size", "Version", "FileName", "Size", "Sha1Sum" and one new
  "mainpackage:" which is simply the package name of the "full
  package". maybe a one-line description entry, but thats it.

  Tools like apt then take all the other missing information, including
  the long desc, from the mainpackage, and voila we get the possibility
  to have something like foo-config-blabla and foo-config-blubber
  without much bloat. (this will need design work done now but we won't
  be able to use it before wheezy or wheezy+1)

* pg9.0 fun (we want replication)

* buildd autosigning

* get rid of hurd (or discuss this)

* get rid of md5sum and one of the two shasums in packages files

* script point releases more. copy/paste from docs/README.stablefoo
  works, but script is nicer.

* Throwaway DD built .debs (well, let's have the fight^Wdiscussion)

* Built-Using infrastructure (for kernel udebs and so on)

* dinstall replacement (from bash off to python). look at ducks

* fix up build queue handling so security stuff works properly

* Merge the archives codes even more, maybe end up with only one config/
  directory, not one per archive

* data.debian.org

* Contents, Source-Contents

* Packages generation (needs lots of db stuff)

* Reduce the config file even more - more in the database

* Apropos the above, centralise dak's email handling / sending so it's
  easier to override (i.e. even from shell scripts use a dak wrapper for
  it)

* Documentation

* dak for squeeze (python 2.6, sqlalchemy 0.6, python-apt 0.7.100)

* explain the idea behind class ORMObject and friends

* remote interfaces: ORMObject has a json() method for easier debugging
  but might that be a first step to provide a (maybe readonly) REST
  interface to dak in the future?

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Bug#611928: ITP: mrbayes -- Bayesian Inference of Phylogeny

2011-02-03 Thread andreas
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: andr...@an3as.eu


* Package name: mrbayes
  Version : 3.1.2
  Upstream Author : Fredrik Ronquist 
* URL : http://mrbayes.sourceforge.net/
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : Bayesian Inference of Phylogeny
 Bayesian inference of phylogeny is based upon a quantity called the posterior
 probability distribution of trees, which is the probability of a tree
 conditioned on the observations. The conditioning is accomplished using
 Bayes's theorem. The posterior probability distribution of trees is
 impossible to calculate analytically; instead, MrBayes uses a simulation
 technique called Markov chain Monte Carlo (or MCMC) to approximate the
 posterior probabilities of trees.

The package will be maintained in the Debian Med team. Packaging stuff is
available in SVN:

Vcs-Browser: 
http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/debian-med/trunk/packages/mrbayes/trunk/?rev=0&sc=0
Vcs-Svn: svn://svn.debian.org/svn/debian-med/trunk/packages/mrbayes/trunk/


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Re: Bug#611880: ITP: webkit2pdf -- export web pages to PDF files

2011-02-03 Thread Ricardo Mones

  Hi all,

  First thanks for your interest in webkit2pdf. I wasn't aware of the
  cutycapt and wkhtmltopdf packages, but now that you mention them and after
  having tested both alternatives I still prefer webkit2pdf, see below.

On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 14:25:42 +0100
Vincent Bernat  wrote:

> OoO En  cette fin  de matinée  radieuse du jeudi  03 février  2011, vers
> 11:15, Cyril Brulebois  disait :
> 
> >   $ apt-cache show wkhtmltopdf | sed -n '/^Description/,$p'
> 
> OoO En  cette fin  de matinée  radieuse du jeudi  03 février  2011, vers
> 11:19, Luca Bruno  disait :
> 
> > Have you seen cutycapt[0] already? I see no advantages in having
> > webkit2pdf in Debian too, so far. Care to compare and expand your
> > rationale?

  Sure. First, it's GTK+-based and doesn't depend on QT libraries like the
  other two.

  Other important reason it has a minimalistic GUI which allows previewing
  the result, while retaining the ability to just work on the command line
  if the right parameters are supplied. The others are not capable of this.

  Also gets some extra points for being also the smallest of the three:

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root  root   28576 Feb  3 16:24 /usr/bin/webkit2pdf
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root  root   41056 Jul  2  2010 /usr/bin/cutycapt
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root  root  275520 Oct 12 23:26 /usr/bin/wkhtmltopdf

  My impression is that is also faster, though I've not done extensive
  timings. Is as fast as or slightly faster than wkhtmltopdf and a lot faster
  than cutycapt (I guess this being a SVN version has room for improvement).

  And finally, this is subjective and also is probably dependent on the
  page's CSS, but the default result of webkit2pdf is more readable to me
  than the others on the same pages.

  I'll update the long description with the non-subjective items :)

> It seems neither cutycapt nor wkhtmltopdf (as compiled in Debian) allows
> to convert hyperlinks. Does webkit2pdf allows this?

  Nope, the URLs are appended after the linked texts, just like the others.

  regards,

P.S.: Please keep the bug address in Cc, I'm not subscribed to devel@ list.
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does aptitude really need to lock the status database when downloading?

2011-02-03 Thread Stanislav Maslovski
Hi debian-devel,

I wanted to ask this for quite a long time: Does aptitude (I think
apt-get does the same) really have to lock "the status database area"
when _downloading_ packages?

For example, I am running an update on a slow connection and want to
uninstall or install with dpkg a few packages while the others are
being downloaded. Should not this be possible? I understand that there
can be a situation that a dependency could be affected by such an
action, but is not it easy to check for this right before unpacking?

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Re: does aptitude really need to lock the status database when downloading?

2011-02-03 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include 
* Stanislav Maslovski [Fri, Feb 04 2011, 03:10:54AM]:
> Hi debian-devel,
> 
> I wanted to ask this for quite a long time: Does aptitude (I think
> apt-get does the same) really have to lock "the status database area"
> when _downloading_ packages?
>
> For example, I am running an update on a slow connection and want to
> uninstall or install with dpkg a few packages while the others are
> being downloaded. Should not this be possible? I understand that there
> can be a situation that a dependency could be affected by such an
> action, but is not it easy to check for this right before unpacking?

If you want to have that level of control, why don't you just check it
manually? Use --download-only with apt-get (no dpkg locking this way)
and when it's done, use apt-get without it to install the packages after
making sure that there is no dpkg active anymore.

Regards,
Eduard.

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Re: does aptitude really need to lock the status database when downloading?

2011-02-03 Thread Julian Taylor
On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 03:10 +0300, Stanislav Maslovski wrote:
> Hi debian-devel,
> 
> I wanted to ask this for quite a long time: Does aptitude (I think
> apt-get does the same) really have to lock "the status database area"
> when _downloading_ packages?
> 
> For example, I am running an update on a slow connection and want to
> uninstall or install with dpkg a few packages while the others are
> being downloaded. Should not this be possible? I understand that there
> can be a situation that a dependency could be affected by such an
> action, but is not it easy to check for this right before unpacking?
> 
> -- 
> Stanislav
> 
> 

FYI,
There is a blueprint in ubuntu aimed for natty concerning this feature:
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-foundations-n-update-manager-incremental-updates
>support downloading in parallel while upgrading the chunks: TODO

Regards,
Julian


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there is /usr/lib64 symlink but no /usr/local/lib64

2011-02-03 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
please do not slap me too hard (only so that I feel your warm carrying
touch):

is there a rationale for: on amd64 Debian systems having

/lib64 -> /lib
/usr/lib64 -> /usr/lib

but no similar one for /usr/local/lib64, so that directory
/usr/local/lib64 gets created if anyone (with enough rights) does 'make
install' pointing there; and we do not include /usr/local/lib64 into ldconfig
path (by default), so those libraries 'get lost'

aren't we diverging from FHS:

If directories /lib or /usr/lib exist, the equivalent directories 
must also exist in /usr/local.

?

thanks for the input
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Bug#611961: ITP: handlersocket -- HandlerSocket is a NoSQL plugin for MySQL

2011-02-03 Thread Clint Byrum
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Clint Byrum 

* Package name: handlersocket
  Version : 1.0.6-69-g28c51bc
  Upstream Author : Akira Higuchi (https://github.com/ahiguti)
* URL : https://github.com/ahiguti/HandlerSocket-Plugin-for-MySQL
* License : BSD
  Programming Lang: C++, Perl
  Description : HandlerSocket is a NoSQL plugin for MySQL

 HandlerSocket is a NoSQL plugin for MySQL. It works as a daemon inside
 the mysqld process, accept tcp connections, and execute requests
 from clients.  HandlerSocket does not support SQL queries. Instead,
 it supports simple CRUD operations on tables.



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Re: Upcoming FTPMaster meeting

2011-02-03 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi,

On Thu, 03 Feb 2011, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> Attached below is a tentative agenda. This is an unsorted list and we
> might not get to every point. We might also have missed any number of
> points, if so feel free to tell us about them.

I have not seen any word about XZ support.

When you deployed support for new source package formats, you forbid
lzma because xz was coming along and you mentioned that wheezy could have 
xz enabled.

I would like to see xz allowed both for source package and for binary
packages.

So I would be glad if you added "allow XZ for source packages and fix
#556407" to your agenda.

Thanks for considering it.

> * Leaf packages. that is, the possibility of having small packages in
>   the archive, without bloating the packages files as a "full package"
>   would. Somehow, less information stored for them. Like only "Package",
>   "Installed-Size", "Version", "FileName", "Size", "Sha1Sum" and one new
>   "mainpackage:" which is simply the package name of the "full
>   package". maybe a one-line description entry, but thats it.

Is that also for very small perl modules that are bundled together
currently?

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Re: Upcoming FTPMaster meeting

2011-02-03 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2011-02-03, Joerg Jaspert  wrote:
> * Leaf packages. that is, the possibility of having small packages in
>   the archive, without bloating the packages files as a "full package"
>   would. Somehow, less information stored for them. Like only "Package",
>   "Installed-Size", "Version", "FileName", "Size", "Sha1Sum" and one new
>   "mainpackage:" which is simply the package name of the "full
>   package". maybe a one-line description entry, but thats it.
>
>   Tools like apt then take all the other missing information, including
>   the long desc, from the mainpackage, and voila we get the possibility
>   to have something like foo-config-blabla and foo-config-blubber
>   without much bloat. (this will need design work done now but we won't
>   be able to use it before wheezy or wheezy+1)

Which would mean stripping Depends and doing indirection.  What about,
instead, dropping two of the checksums and refering to the Description
in another file which is planned for translations of them anyway?
(I.e. refer by hash.)

Would that already help quite a bit?  The description and the hashsums
probably contain a tad more entropy than the other bits and could
already help quite a bit.

(But then you're of course still bloating one Package file per arch and
there's no compression to help here.)

Kind regards
Philipp Kern


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