Re: Forwarding bugs upstream

2011-01-19 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
Hi

After reading this thread, I've got a strange thought.


So teams maintaining important projects in Debian can't handle the load 
caused by bug report stream.

Large presentange of bugs actually as upstream bugs. If so, upstream should 
be interested in that information non less than in any other information 
about bugs in their software.

Also, upstream should be interested in having their software in 
distributions in as good shape as possible - distributions are *the* 
channel how most users get upstream's software.

Then, maybe explicitly request upstream - at appropriate forums and in 
appropriate polite wording - to help debian team(s) to handle the bug 
report stream?

Sure this will cause requests to put bug report into upstream trackers. 
Situation with this has been described within this thread, and this 
information - in brief form - could be presented to upstreams.

I think this method could attact additional resource into solving the 
problem being discussed in this thread.


Just wanted to share my thought.

Nikita


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Re: Equivalent packages between Linux distributions

2011-01-19 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Wednesday 19 January 2011 00.54:44 Silvio Cesare wrote:
> I have generated a list of roughly equivalent packages between Linux
> distributions (currently Debian 5 and Fedora 13). The list is
> automatically generated.

Cool!

Maybe I have missed a pointer or whatever: how did you compute this 
similarity? Number of identical files?  Or filenames?

I was just wondering: GSoC project: 
 * run this after every release of a major distribution
 * add this info to aptitude/... : if I install a package that doesn't 
exist, add this to the search database (not sure what aptitude looks at 
right now, exactly, but it already has the infrastructure for proposing a 
package if the given name doesn't exist.)

But please make this optional, on small systems apt already is only barely 
usable.

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Re: Equivalent packages between Linux distributions

2011-01-19 Thread Paul Wise
You might want to look at the PackageMap project started by a
Debian/Gentoo contributor:

http://blog.hartwork.org/?p=373
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/packagemap

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Bug#610506: ITP: ardentryst -- Action/RPG sidescoller, focused on story and character development

2011-01-19 Thread Vincent Cheng
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Vincent Cheng 


* Package name: ardentryst
  Version : 1.7.1
  Upstream Author : Jordan Trudgett 
* URL : http://jordan.trudgett.com/
* License : game itself: GPL-3 ; game data/music: CC 3.0
  Programming Lang: Python
  Description : Action/RPG sidescoller, focused on story and character
development

Ardentryst is an action/RPG sidescoller, focused not just on fighting, but on
story, and character development. It features two playable characters and a
variety of weapons, items, armour, monsters, and beautiful level scenery and
graphics.



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Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-19 Thread Amaya
Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> While I have no love for insserv, if you think the whole point of
> dependency based boot (be it insserv, upstart, systemd) is boot speed,
> I think you're mistaken.  It's a part of the goal, but much more
> important is actually correctness.  Getting the dependencies between
> init scripts correct is sometimes hard.

Thanks, it had to be said.
I also hate change, but as you say...

> People have to test, test again and test more and people also have to
> file bugs.  Bugs suck, but they're part of life and complaining about
> decision made a long ago is much less productive than just living with
> them, making the best out of them and filing bugs when things break.

+1

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security updates introducing breakage

2011-01-19 Thread Brian May
Hello,

What is policy when security updates for stable introduce new
regressions in software that weren't there before? Can these get fixed
in stable?

e.g. I have had somebody complain to me that this bug:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=587702

which was introduced into stable through a security update, has been
fixed in unstable/testing, but doesn't seem to be fixed in stable?

What is the recommended way of querying issues like this? The bug in
question is archived and closed because it is fixed in unstable, but
no attempt has been made to fix the package in stable. So users are
forced to install the non-security updated version to work around
this.

Thanks.

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Re: security updates introducing breakage

2011-01-19 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Brian May
 wrote:

> What is policy when security updates for stable introduce new
> regressions in software that weren't there before? Can these get fixed
> in stable?

If a stable security update contained a regression, usually that is
fixed with an update in the stable security archive. Please ping the
maintainer and CC the security team about this. You will also want to
unarchive the bug so that it can be closed again.

I also wonder why the security team didn't pick this up, I guess they
don't have any automatic tracking of bugs filed against versions they
uploaded.

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Re: memset(x,y,0) bug audit

2011-01-19 Thread Raphael Geissert
Samuel Thibault wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 09:11, Silvio Cesare 
> wrote:
>> I performed an audit of Debian stable for memset(x,y,0) bugs. These
>> should typically be corrected with memset(x,0,y).
> 
> I guess that could be one of the candidates for DACA.

Will be available once cppcheck 1.47 is released and the archive is checked 
with it:
https://github.com/danmar/cppcheck/commit/6ec4497919363ca3a81b61ce8121a9b48e46fe63

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