Re: Bits from keyring-maint

2010-09-14 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 14, Gunnar Wolf  wrote:

> pushing Debian towards adopting stronger RSA keys - We have accepted
> some 2048R keys, but if you don't have a real reason to keep your key
> at that size (i.e. you very often build on underpowered machines where
> a 4096R key takes forever, or something like that), we really prefer
> to go with 4096R keys.
I would like to know the process which lead to selecting these figures.

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/usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-14 Thread Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
Hello,

I just built docbook2x and gettext and both contained the file mentioned
in subject. install-info created dir which got gzip later in the build
process. The strance thing is the almost none of the buildds ship this
file. According to [0] only s390(lxdebian) ships this file in gettext
and qingy and kfreebsd-* in tk707. From the unreleased architectures I
found dir.gz in sh4 but not in sparc64.

Comparing the build-logs it looks like those architectures have
install-info allready installed (since it was part of dpkg once) and
they never removed it by hand but upgraded to the package built from
texinfo source.

So this is to let you know, to remove this package in order to avoid
further problems :)

[0] 
http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=squeeze§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=contents&keywords=dir.gz

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Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-14 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 11:08:13AM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I just built docbook2x and gettext and both contained the file mentioned
> in subject. install-info created dir which got gzip later in the build
> process. The strance thing is the almost none of the buildds ship this
> file. According to [0] only s390(lxdebian) ships this file in gettext
> and qingy and kfreebsd-* in tk707. From the unreleased architectures I
> found dir.gz in sh4 but not in sparc64.
> 
> Comparing the build-logs it looks like those architectures have
> install-info allready installed (since it was part of dpkg once) and
> they never removed it by hand but upgraded to the package built from
> texinfo source.
> 
> So this is to let you know, to remove this package in order to avoid
> further problems :)
> 

install-info is not present on the kfreebsd-i386 buildds, though it is
not possible that it was installed at some point.

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Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-14 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi,

Sebastian Andrzej Siewior  (14/09/2010):
> So this is to let you know, to remove this package in order to avoid
> further problems :)

packages really ought to build if that package is installed…

Mraw,
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Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-14 Thread Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
* Aurelien Jarno | 2010-09-14 11:59:51 [+0200]:

>install-info is not present on the kfreebsd-i386 buildds, though it is
>not possible that it was installed at some point.

Maybe it got removed in the meantime. If you look at [0] you see dir.gz.
If you look at build log from himalia1[1] and grep for install-info:
|Processing triggers for install-info ...
|Ignoring install-info called from maintainer script
| install-info 
--info-dir=/build/buildd-tk707_0.7.21-9-kfreebsd-i386-436HGE/tk707-0.7.21/debian/tk707/usr/share/info
 
/build/buildd-tk707_0.7.21-9-kfreebsd-i386-436HGE/tk707-0.7.21/debian/tk707/usr/share/info/tk707.info
|This is not dpkg install-info anymore, but GNU install-info
|See the man page for ginstall-info for command line arguments
|Ignoring install-info called from maintainer script
|Processing triggers for install-info ...<

So it is there.

[0] http://packages.debian.org/sid/kfreebsd-i386/tk707/filelist
[1] 
https://buildd.debian.org/fetch.cgi?pkg=tk707&arch=kfreebsd-i386&ver=0.7.21-9&stamp=1252529424&file=log&as=raw

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Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-14 Thread Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
* Cyril Brulebois | 2010-09-14 12:10:01 [+0200]:

>Hi,
Hi,

>Sebastian Andrzej Siewior  (14/09/2010):
>> So this is to let you know, to remove this package in order to avoid
>> further problems :)
>
>packages really ought to build if that package is installed???
This is true. However you can't install two packages containing this
file.

>
>Mraw,
>KiBi.

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Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-14 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior  (14/09/2010):
> > packages really ought to build if that package is installed…
> This is true. However you can't install two packages containing this
> file.

Sorry, I should have been more explicit: build *properly*, i.e. do
what's needed to avoid shipping that file in the resulting binary
packages.

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Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-14 Thread Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
* Cyril Brulebois | 2010-09-14 12:53:20 [+0200]:

>Sebastian Andrzej Siewior  (14/09/2010):
>> > packages really ought to build if that package is installed???
>> This is true. However you can't install two packages containing this
>> file.
>
>Sorry, I should have been more explicit: build *properly*, i.e. do
>what's needed to avoid shipping that file in the resulting binary
>packages.

Sounds reasonable. However sometimes package maintainer argueue that the
policy says "clean build environment" and having package X intalled is
no longer clean (thus I have a problem and buildds do not).

I went through Contents-* for sid and got:

usr/share/info/sdir.gz:
utils/ssed: [armel, hurd-i386, s390, avr32, sh4]

Which is fixed according to #219988. Probably the same thing as in
#543992 trigered it again.

And usr/share/info/dir.gz can be found in:
devel/gettext   [hurd-i386, s390, sh4]
otherosfs/vcdimager [hurd-i386, sh4]
sound/tk707 [kfreebsd-amd64, freebsd-i386.gz]
admin/qingy [s390, sh4]
electronics/freehdl [avr32]
sound/ladcca-bin[avr32]
sound/opencubicplayer   [m68k 1:0.1.17-1, current is 1:0.1.20-1]
editors/bbe [powerpcspe]
devel/id-utils  [powerpcspe]
text/docbook2x  [powerpcspe]
games/heroes-common [sh4]
sound/glame [sh4]

>Mraw,
>KiBi.

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Bug#596815: ITP: drupal6-mod-imagefield -- imagefield module for Drupal 6

2010-09-14 Thread Al Nikolov
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Al Nikolov 


* Package name: drupal6-mod-imagefield
  Version : 3.7
  Upstream Author : Nathan Haug (http://drupal.org/user/35821)
* URL : http://drupal.org/project/imagefield
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: PHP
  Description : imagefield module for Drupal 6

 ImageField provides an image upload field for CCK. ImageField is a
 CCK-based alternative to the legacy Image project. It boasts features
 such as multiple images per node, resolution restrictions, default
 images, and extensive Views support.

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Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-14 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:11:14PM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> * Aurelien Jarno | 2010-09-14 11:59:51 [+0200]:
> 
> >install-info is not present on the kfreebsd-i386 buildds, though it is
> >not possible that it was installed at some point.

Oops my fault. I wanted to say "not impossible".

> Maybe it got removed in the meantime. If you look at [0] you see dir.gz.
> If you look at build log from himalia1[1] and grep for install-info:
> |Processing triggers for install-info ...
> |Ignoring install-info called from maintainer script
> | install-info 
> --info-dir=/build/buildd-tk707_0.7.21-9-kfreebsd-i386-436HGE/tk707-0.7.21/debian/tk707/usr/share/info
>  
> /build/buildd-tk707_0.7.21-9-kfreebsd-i386-436HGE/tk707-0.7.21/debian/tk707/usr/share/info/tk707.info
> |This is not dpkg install-info anymore, but GNU install-info
> |See the man page for ginstall-info for command line arguments
> |Ignoring install-info called from maintainer script
> |Processing triggers for install-info ...<
> 
> So it is there.
> 

Indeed, himalia1 is not a buildd for kfreebsd-i386 anymore, and chroots
have been recreated from scratch for the new build daemons.

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Bug#596817: ITP: drupal6-mod-cck -- cck module for Drupal 6

2010-09-14 Thread Al Nikolov
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
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* Package name: drupal6-mod-cck
  Version : 2.8
  Upstream Author : Yves Chedemois (http://drupal.org/user/39567)
* URL : http://drupal.org/project/cck
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: PHP
  Description : cck module for Drupal 6

 The Content Construction Kit allows you to add custom fields to nodes
 using a web browser.
 .
 CCK is a very powerful system with many different contributed modules
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Bug#596821: ITP: drupal6-mod-filefield -- filefield module for Drupal 6

2010-09-14 Thread Al Nikolov
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
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* Package name: drupal6-mod-filefield
  Version : 3.7
  Upstream Author : Nathan Haug (http://drupal.org/user/35821)
* URL : http://drupal.org/project/filefield
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: PHP
  Description : filefield module for Drupal 6

 FileField provides a universal file upload field for CCK. It is a
 robust alternative to core's Upload module and an absolute must for
 users uploading a large number of files. Great for managing video and
 audio files for podcasts on your own site.

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Bug#596826: ITP: drupal6-mod-imagefield-assist -- imagefield_assist module for Drupal 6

2010-09-14 Thread Al Nikolov
Package: wnpp
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* Package name: drupal6-mod-imagefield-assist
  Version : 1.0~beta3
  Upstream Author : Lourenzo Ferreira (http://drupal.org/user/242102)
* URL : http://drupal.org/project/imagefield_assist
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: PHP
  Description : imagefield_assist module for Drupal 6

 This module can use every single ImageField field added to any node in a Drupal
 6 website, and uses ImageCache presets to display it.
 .
 Now ImageField Assist supports Lightbox2.

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Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-14 Thread Jakub Wilk

* Cyril Brulebois , 2010-09-14, 12:00:
So this is to let you know, to remove this package in order to avoid 
further problems :)


packages really ought to build if that package is installed…


Should these kind of bugs (FTBFS or producing broken packages in 
non-clean environment) be considered RC?


There are other packages, besides install-info, that are known to be 
disruptive for build process:
- graphicsmagick-libmagick-dev-compat is very likely to break packages 
linking to imagemagick;
- pythonX.Y-minimal can break packages that autodetects existence of 
Python.


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Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-14 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 14:55:33 +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote:

> * Cyril Brulebois , 2010-09-14, 12:00:
> >>So this is to let you know, to remove this package in order to
> >>avoid further problems :)
> >
> >packages really ought to build if that package is installed…
> 
> Should these kind of bugs (FTBFS or producing broken packages in
> non-clean environment) be considered RC?
> 
I'd say they're serious bugs if packages in the archive suffer from the
misbuild, and normal ones if not.

Cheers,
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Bug#596839: ITP: ttf-motoya-l-ceder

2010-09-14 Thread Hideki Yamane
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, 
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Hi,

 Two Japanese commercial font have been submitted to Android repository under
 apache2 license now, so I want to put it into Debian as well.


   Package name: ttf-motoya-l-cedar
Version: 4.00
Upstream Author: MOTOYA Co.,LTD. (株式会社モトヤ)
 Copyright (c) 2010, The Android Open Source Project
URL: http://www.motoya.co.jp/
 https://review.source.android.com/#change,17154
License: Apache License, Version 2.0
 
Description: Japanese Truetype font, Motoya L Ceder
 Motoya font was created in 1950s, it aims beauty and 
readability.
 This package provides "MotoyaLCedar W3 mono" - Gothic that 
images 
 Japanese cedar, straight and thick tree


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Bug#596838: ITP: ttf-motoya-l-maruberi

2010-09-14 Thread Hideki Yamane
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Hi,

 Two Japanese commercial font have been submitted to Android repository under
 apache2 license now, so I want to put it into Debian as well.


   Package name: ttf-motoya-l-maruberi
Version: 4.00
Upstream Author: MOTOYA Co.,LTD. (株式会社モトヤ)
 Copyright (c) 2010, The Android Open Source Project
URL: http://www.motoya.co.jp/
 https://review.source.android.com/#change,17154
License: Apache License, Version 2.0
 
Description: Japanese Truetype font, Motoya L Maruberi
 Motoya font was created in 1950s, it aims beauty and 
readability.
 This package provides MotoyaLMaru W3 mono - Rounded Gothic, 
"Maruberi" font


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Bug#596859: ITP: drupal6-mod-contemplate -- contemplate module for Drupal 6

2010-09-14 Thread Al Nikolov
Package: wnpp
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* Package name: drupal6-mod-contemplate
  Version : 1.2
  Upstream Author : James R Glasgow (http://drupal.org/user/36590)
* URL : http://drupal.org/project/contemplate
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: PHP
  Description : contemplate module for Drupal 6

 The Content Template (a.k.a. ConTemplate) module allows modification
 of Drupal's teaser and body fields using administrator defined
 templates. These templates use PHP code and all of the node object
 variables are available for use in the template. An example node
 object is displayed and it is as simple as clicking on its properties
 to add them to the current template.

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Re: Bits from keyring-maint

2010-09-14 Thread brian m. carlson
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 09:59:16AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Sep 14, Gunnar Wolf  wrote:
> 
> > pushing Debian towards adopting stronger RSA keys - We have accepted
> > some 2048R keys, but if you don't have a real reason to keep your key
> > at that size (i.e. you very often build on underpowered machines where
> > a 4096R key takes forever, or something like that), we really prefer
> > to go with 4096R keys.
> I would like to know the process which lead to selecting these figures.

I suspect that those figures are because 2048 bits is the default size
for RSA keys and 4096 bits is the largest size that GnuPG supports.
Some specially patched versions of PGP can support keys of up to 16384
bits, but IIRC those are all v3 RSA keys, which aren't allowed anymore.

Personally, I can't see a reason that using an RSA 4096 bit key should
be that painful even on very slow machines.  You're performing a *single
RSA encrypt operation* per signature.

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OpenPGP: RSA v4 4096b: 88AC E9B2 9196 305B A994 7552 F1BA 225C 0223 B187


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Re: Bug#596511: ITP: simon -- Open source speech recognition

2010-09-14 Thread Simon Josefsson
Peter Grasch  writes:

> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: Peter Grasch 
>
>
> * Package name: simon
>   Version : 0.3.0
>   Upstream Author : Peter Grasch 
> * URL : http://www.simon-listens.org/
> * License : GPL, BSD, GFDL and Julius
>   Programming Lang: C, C++
>   Description : Open source speech recognition
>
>  With simon you can control your computer with your voice. You can 
>  open programs, URLs, type configurable text snippets, simulate 
>  shortcuts, control the mouse and keyboard and much more.
>  simon is not bound to any language and works with any dialect.
>  This project utilizes the open source large vocabulary continuous 
>  speech recognition engine Julius (this package ships its own 
>  modified version).

Is this intended for main?  Doesn't Julius rely on the non-free HTK
toolkit?

/Simon


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Re: Bits from keyring-maint

2010-09-14 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010, brian m. carlson wrote:
> Personally, I can't see a reason that using an RSA 4096 bit key should
> be that painful even on very slow machines.  You're performing a *single
> RSA encrypt operation* per signature.

Well, the main key is mostly a key-signing key/KSK (although you CAN use it
to directly sign/encript data files), and you use subkeys (which can be
smaller both in size and validity period) to do the grunt work if you don't
want to deal with large signatures or more intensive CPU usage all the time.

So, you could have a main 4096R key valid for 10 years, and attach to it a
2048R subkey valid for one or two years to make things faster, and generate
a new subkey when its about to expire.  Subkeys are NOT tied to UIDs (and,
therefore, the web of trust), those are matters for the main key (KSK).
subkeys are only signed by the main key (KSK).

There is a thread about this now in the cryptography ML.  If anything really
insteresting shows up there, I will relay it here.  I am certainly
interested on our bias towards RSA and away from DSA2 and El-Gammal, for
example...

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ITP: mbrola-{br1,de4,de5,es2,fr1,gr1,us3} -- Voices for Mbrola

2010-09-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
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From: Samuel Thibault 
To: Debian Bug Tracking System 
Subject: ITP: mbrola-br1 -- Brazilian Portuguese male voice for Mbrola
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:50:24 +0200
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14

Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2010-09-14
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Samuel Thibault 

* Package name: mbrola-br1
  Version : 2.021
  Upstream Author : Faculte Polytechnique de  Mons  -  mbrola team 
 
* URL : http://tcts.fpms.ac.be/synthesis
* License : see the file readme.txt in the source zip: non-free as in
without source code, and for non-commercial, non-military
purposes, with and only with the mbrola package made
available by the author.
  Description : Brazilian Portuguese male voice for Mbrola
 This package contains a Brazilian Portuguese diphone database provided in the 
context
 of the MBROLA project see: http://tcts.fpms.ac.be/synthesis/
 .
 It provides a Brazilian Portuguese male voice to be used with the MBROLA
 program.

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From: Samuel Thibault 
To: Debian Bug Tracking System 
Subject: ITP: mbrola-de4 -- German male voice for Mbrola
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:50:40 +0200
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14

Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2010-09-14
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Samuel Thibault 

* Package name: mbrola-de4
  Version : 0.0.20020812
  Upstream Author : Faculte Polytechnique de  Mons  -  mbrola team 
 
* URL : http://tcts.fpms.ac.be/synthesis
* License : see the file readme.txt in the source zip: non-free as in
without source code, and for non-commercial, non-military
purposes, with and only with the mbrola package made
available by the author.
  Description : German male voice for Mbrola
 This package contains a German diphone database provided in the context
 of the MBROLA project see: http://tcts.fpms.ac.be/synthesis/
 .
 It provides a German male voice to be used with the MBROLA
 program.

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From: Samuel Thibault 
To: Debian Bug Tracking System 
Subject: ITP: mbrola-de5 -- German female voice for Mbrola
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:50:56 +0200
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14

Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2010-09-14
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Samuel Thibault 

* Package name: mbrola-de5
  Version : 1.0
  Upstream Author : Faculte Polytechnique de  Mons  -  mbrola team 
 
* URL : http://tcts.fpms.ac.be/synthesis
* License : see the file readme.txt in the source zip: non-free as in
without source code, and for non-commercial, non-military
purposes, with and only with the mbrola package made
available by the author.
  Description : German female voice for Mbrola
 This package contains a German diphone database provided in the context
 of the MBROLA project see: http://tcts.fpms.ac.be/synthesis/
 .
 It provides a German female voice to be used with the MBROLA
 program.

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From: Samuel Thibault 
To: Debian Bug Tracking System 
Subject: ITP: mbrola-es2 -- Spanish male voice for Mbrola
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:51:11 +0200
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14

Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2010-09-14
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Samuel Thibault 

* Package name: mbrola-es2
  Version : 2.069
  Upstream Author : Faculte Polytechnique de  Mons  -  mbrola team 
 
* URL : http://tcts.fpms.ac.be/synthesis
* License : see the file readme.txt in the source zip: non-free as in
without source code, and for non-commercial, non-military
purposes, with and only with the mbrola package made
available by the author.
  Description : Spanish male voice for Mbrola
 This package contains a Spanish diphone database provided in the context
 of the MBROLA project see: http://tcts.fpms.ac.be/synthesis/
 .
 It provides a Spanish male voice to be used with the MBROLA
 program.

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From: Samuel Thibault 
To: Debian Bug Tracking System 
Subject: ITP: mbrola-gr1 -- Greek male voice for Mbrola
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:51:27 +0200
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14

Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2010-09-14
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Samuel Thibault 

* Package name: mbrola-gr1
  Version : 19990610
  Upstream Author : Faculte Polytechnique de  Mons  -  mbrola team 
 
* URL : http://tcts.fpms.ac.be/synthesis
* License : see the file readme.txt in the source zip: non-free as in
without 

Re: Bug#596511: ITP: simon -- Open source speech recognition

2010-09-14 Thread Peter Grasch

 Am 2010-09-14 19:17, schrieb Simon Josefsson:

Peter Grasch  writes:


Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Peter Grasch


* Package name: simon
   Version : 0.3.0
   Upstream Author : Peter Grasch
* URL : http://www.simon-listens.org/
* License : GPL, BSD, GFDL and Julius
   Programming Lang: C, C++
   Description : Open source speech recognition

  With simon you can control your computer with your voice. You can
  open programs, URLs, type configurable text snippets, simulate
  shortcuts, control the mouse and keyboard and much more.
  simon is not bound to any language and works with any dialect.
  This project utilizes the open source large vocabulary continuous
  speech recognition engine Julius (this package ships its own
  modified version).

Is this intended for main?  Doesn't Julius rely on the non-free HTK
toolkit?
I haven't really thought about it but the license shouldn't be an issue 
afaik.


This topic has come up multiple times already but have a look at theses 
discussions on why I think this should be ok:

Comment section: http://lwn.net/Articles/348361/
http://www.simon-listens.org/wiki/index.php/Licensing

Regards,
Peter


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Re: Bug#596511: ITP: simon -- Open source speech recognition

2010-09-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Peter Grasch, le Tue 14 Sep 2010 22:22:42 +0200, a écrit :
> I haven't really thought about it but the license shouldn't be an issue 
> afaik.
> 
> This topic has come up multiple times already but have a look at theses 
> discussions on why I think this should be ok:
> Comment section: http://lwn.net/Articles/348361/

« The HTK is, strictly speaking, no dependency of simon. It extends
simon functionality: Without it is not possible to create speech mdoels
but you can still use existing ones. »

And can you modify one?  I guess you can't.  That's an issue.

Samuel


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Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-14 Thread Peter Samuelson

[Sebastian Andrzej Siewior]
> Sounds reasonable. However sometimes package maintainer argueue that the
> policy says "clean build environment" and having package X intalled is
> no longer clean (thus I have a problem and buildds do not).

Where does the policy say that?
I can't find anything that even implies it.

Peter


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Re: Bug#596511: ITP: simon -- Open source speech recognition

2010-09-14 Thread Simon Josefsson
Samuel Thibault  writes:

> Peter Grasch, le Tue 14 Sep 2010 22:22:42 +0200, a écrit :
>> I haven't really thought about it but the license shouldn't be an issue 
>> afaik.
>> 
>> This topic has come up multiple times already but have a look at theses 
>> discussions on why I think this should be ok:
>> Comment section: http://lwn.net/Articles/348361/
>
> « The HTK is, strictly speaking, no dependency of simon. It extends
> simon functionality: Without it is not possible to create speech mdoels
> but you can still use existing ones. »
>
> And can you modify one?  I guess you can't.  That's an issue.

Quoting further: "All HTK specific code is bundeled in the
simonspeechcompilation library (in one class) which could easily be
replaced by a GPL replacement - if there were any."

Peter, have you prepared a source *.deb yet?  It would be interesting to
look at the code to understand how critical the non-free component is.

/Simon


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Re: Bits from keyring-maint

2010-09-14 Thread brian m. carlson
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 03:55:30PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> There is a thread about this now in the cryptography ML.  If anything really
> insteresting shows up there, I will relay it here.  I am certainly
> interested on our bias towards RSA and away from DSA2 and El-Gammal, for
> example...

There have never been any practical limits to RSA keys for OpenPGP.  The
way to encode a signature in RSA keys works equally well for any key
size.  Now that there is no longer any patent for RSA, there are no
practical issues related to it, and the algorithm has been around for a
long time, is conceptually simple, and is well-understood.

DSA has had several issues.  One is that RFC 2440, which originally
specified DSA keys, limited them to 1024 bits.  This has generally been
thought to be too short for long-term use.  Another is that because the
hash value is used directly as a parameter, a strong hash of sufficient
size has to be used.  RFC 2440 did not specify any of the SHA-2
algorithms either, which made it difficult to specify larger key
sizes[0].  The third, which is very important, is that DSA uses a random
number to compute each signature.  This number must never, ever, be
repeated.  If this number (k) is ever repeated, it becomes *trivial* to
determine the private key.  This is what happened with the OpenSSL
problem: every DSA key used with a poor PRNG (not generated, simply
used) should be assumed to be compromised.

You now see why RSA is very popular.

[0] Strictly, this only limits the size of q, but increasing p without
some increase in q does not really provide significantly more security.

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OpenPGP: RSA v4 4096b: 88AC E9B2 9196 305B A994 7552 F1BA 225C 0223 B187


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Re: Bits from keyring-maint

2010-09-14 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 16:56 +, brian m. carlson wrote:
> I suspect that those figures are because 2048 bits is the default size
> for RSA keys and 4096 bits is the largest size that GnuPG supports.
> Some specially patched versions of PGP can support keys of up to 16384
> bits, but IIRC those are all v3 RSA keys, which aren't allowed anymore.
This is also easily possible with gnupg (via patching), and you don't
have to use v3 keys (which one generally shouldn't).

Cheers,
Chris.


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Re: Is a bug RC relevant if it has an influence on the health of a person

2010-09-14 Thread Jakub Wilk

* Goswin von Brederlow , 2010-09-11, 19:46:
Because you are a reportbug novice. Novices are not allowed to play 
with severity of bugs. :)


I consider this a horrible misfeature of reportbug. Yes, we need RC bugs 
from novices, too.


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Re: Bits from keyring-maint

2010-09-14 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Marco d'Itri (m...@linux.it):

> I would like to know the process which lead to selecting these figures.


Apparently, just like many other things in the project: the folks
doing the work (and appointed for this by the project through the DPL)
examine the situation, make plans and decisions and
then announce them.

I somehow understand you might be unhappy about this way to do
things. Is this interpretation from my side?




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