Re: Lenny 5.05 and Squeeze

2010-06-25 Thread Jonathan Wiltshire
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 04:38:31PM -0300, William F. wrote:
> When comes Lenny 5.05 Cd and/or Debian Squeeze release??

The Lenny point release is planned for this coming weekend, 26th June 2010.

See
http://lists.debian.org/1276720762.11196.604.ca...@kaa.jungle.aubergine.my-net-space.net


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Re: Improve support for installing 32-bit libraries on 64-bit systems

2010-06-25 Thread David Kalnischkies
Hi Michael Tsang (and hi d...@l.d.o)

2010/6/24 Michael Tsang :
> I have a recommendation for 32-bit libraries on 64-bit systems:
>
> Now, some libraries are available on 64-bit systems as lib32* but these are
> very few. To improve this situation, I think that we can organise the library
> packages as follows:

Some problems with this approach are:
a) we have multiple 32-bit architectures - i386, arm(el), mips(el), …
and even hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-i386 so the naming is ambitious.
a1) if you name the packages differently you need to add A LOT of
alternatives depending on the architecture to the dependency lines.
This not only complicates all these lines but make it also harder to insert
new libraries and/or archs as they will slowly propagated in the pool.
(Beside that i am not complete sure that an arch depending alternative
option is even allowed currently: Depends: lib | lib32 [amd64 sparc64] )
a2) with a different name you avoid the file "conflicts" in at least
/usr/share/doc/ - aka changelog, copyright and stuff -- but do they really
differ for the same library which is just build for different architectures?
So you have a lot of duplicates, right?
b) a lot of "duplicated" packages are created: In which way will lib:i386
differ in your (and current) approach from lib32:amd64 expect of the name?
c) These lib32, ia32, whatever42 packages tend to be a hell to maintain…
(how big is the "source" of ia32-libs currently, 370 MB ? Just a library? *)
d) what will happen with the release of a 96bit or 128bit architectures?


> This should be implemented as a build template to make all library packages
> use this organisation scheme. I think this should be implemented after the
> release of Squeeze.

If you look closer, MultiArch was at least for squeeze on the goal list.
I guess it is pretty unlikely that we will make it, but i think it was more
on the list to get a bit of noise and some progress -
and some progress is visible.

The biggest showstoppers are as far as i know that
a) dpkg doesn't support it
b) APT doesn't support it
c) (not many) packages use it (last time i check ~24)

c) is likely caused by a) and b) which in fact decreases the motivation for
a) and b) to implement it as nobody use it… *** dependency loop detected ***

But don't worry, Debian has found a victi… äh, i mean a volunteer to work
on b) [0] - and the good thing is, you can even try and play with it already -
you just need an apt/experimental build (, a bit of luck) and the right
configuration options. See also README.MultiArch, but 
(yes, correct, shameless self-advertisement).


Best regards,

David Kalnischkies


[0] http://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2010/APT-MultiArch/DavidKalnischkies
which is an accepted proposal and implements it according to the
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiarchSpec

* yes, that are trick questions.


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add psl

2010-06-25 Thread farzana khatoon
add pls


Bug#587161: ITP: python-cogent -- framework for genomic biology

2010-06-25 Thread Steffen Moeller
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Steffen Moeller 

* Package name: python-cogent
  Version : 1.4.1
* URL : http://pycogent.sourceforge.net/
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: Python
  Description : framework for genomic biology

 PyCogent is a software library for genomic biology. It is a fully
 integrated and thoroughly tested framework for: controlling third-party
 applications; devising workflows; querying databases; conducting novel
 probabilistic analyses of biological sequence evolution; and generating
 publication quality graphics. It is distinguished by many unique built-in
 capabilities (such as true codon alignment) and the frequent addition
 of entirely new methods for the analysis of genomic data.



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Re: Essentiality of Bash

2010-06-25 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:58:58 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow
 wrote:
>I think for that goal it would be good for lintian to add an exception
>to the (build-)depends-on-essential-package-without-using-version check.
>That does not mean that bash should stop being essential in Debian any
>time soon.

I have never understood that rule in the first place. Why am I not
allowed to depend on an essential package, it's just clearer
documentation, and doesn't hurt.

What am I missing?

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Re: Essentiality of Bash

2010-06-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:20:33PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:58:58 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow
>  wrote:
> >I think for that goal it would be good for lintian to add an exception
> >to the (build-)depends-on-essential-package-without-using-version check.
> >That does not mean that bash should stop being essential in Debian any
> >time soon.

> I have never understood that rule in the first place. Why am I not
> allowed to depend on an essential package, it's just clearer
> documentation, and doesn't hurt.

> What am I missing?

The footnote to Policy 3.5, where this is written out?

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Bug#587189: ITP: python-nast -- alignment of short DNA sequences

2010-06-25 Thread Steffen Moeller
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Steffen Moeller 

* Package name: python-nast
  Version : 1.1
* URL : http://pynast.sf.net
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: Python
  Description : alignment of short DNA sequences

 The package provices a reimplementation of the Nearest Alignment 
 Space Termination tool in python. It was prepared for next generation
 sequencers.
 .
 Given a set of sequences and a template alignment, PyNAST will align the
 input sequences against the template alignment, and return a multiple
 sequence alignment which contains the same number of positions (or
 columns) as the template alignment. This facilitates the analysis of new
 sequences in the context of existing alignments, and additional data
 derived from existing alignments such as phylogenetic trees. Because
 any protein or nucleic acid sequences and template alignments can be
 provided, PyNAST is not limited to the analysis of 16s rDNA sequences.
 .
 Since version 1.1, PyNAST no longer exactly matches the output
 of the origianl NAST program. Instead it focuses on getting better
 alignments. Users who wish to exactly match the results of NAST should
 download PyNAST 1.0.
 .
 PyNAST: a flexible tool for aligning sequences to a template
 alignment. J. Gregory Caporaso, Kyle Bittinger, Frederic D. Bushman,
 Todd Z. DeSantis, Gary L. Andersen, and Rob Knight. January 15, 2010,
 DOI 10.1093/bioinformatics/btp636. Bioinformatics 26: 266-267.



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