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Bug#585183: general: .deb packages open with Archive Manager by default, not Package Installer

2010-06-10 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 22:20:18 +0100
di  wrote:

> Package: general
> Severity: normal
> Tags: squeeze
> 
> In GNOME the default open action for when double-clicking on a .deb
> package is to open with Archive Manager, which then complains 'Could
> not create the archive: Archive type not supported.'

deb-gview supports viewing the contents of the .deb, it's just not the
default (or a part of the default GNOME install) - it could be if
people want that.
 
> The context menu shows as the second option 'Open with GDebi Package
> Installer', and I think it would be hard to argue against this being
> a better default, especially seeing as archive manager can't
> understand .debs itself from a clean install...

I would argue against an installer being a suitable default -
installing random .deb files downloaded from who knows where is not a
good idea. The default should be to show what is in the .deb.

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maintainer rejected completing the UPG checks (was: test if primary group, with only implicit membership of the user?)

2010-06-10 Thread C. Gatzemeier

My perception was that the consensus reached was that we wanted umask
relaxation to be safe.

Bug#583970: pam_umask "usergroups": test if primary group, with
only implicit membership of the user 

Closed on Sun, 6 Jun 2010 15:32:43 -0700:

> I don't think this is a check that it makes sense to add to
> pam_umask.  This isn't part of the *definition* of user-private
> groups, it's just a feature of the most common *implementation* of
> UPG. 

IMHO the same holds true for the username and
user-ID checks in place, they are not strictly required for an UPG
implementation. If the group can be considered to be a private group
(and be granted write permissions) is ultimately only determinable by
the user looking at and knowing/trusting the members of his primary
group. What distros do is, they add certain properties to UPGs to be
able to recognize the UPGs that are set up by their tools.

Completing the set of checks to match the set of properties of
distro's UPG implementation increases the security of the common
implementation of UPGs. It eliminats the cases of insecure umask
relaxation!

Because the set of checks is incomplete (does not cover the specific
properties added) I'd even consider it a security relevant bug, not
only a wishlist item.

Even if the check would not be enabled by default upstream, Debian could
(and according articulated security concerns, Debian probably should)
enable it, because Debian's UPG implementation supports those UPG
properties. (Well, at least the one that is checked with the above
test. The UID==GID alignment will be fixed.)

Cheers,
Christian


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Re: Parallellizing the boot in Debian Squeeze - ready for wider testing

2010-06-10 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen

[Stefano Zacchiroli]
> If you are ready to monitor the issue closely, I don't see any
> problem in switching the default now in unstable, see how it goes,
> and then decide later on if revert back to the current default in
> Squeeze time.

The switch to parallel booting was done 2010-05-14 in unstable, and
entered testing 2010-05-26.  As far as I can see, it is holding up
fairly well.

These are the issues I am aware of that was exposed by the parallel
booting: A race condition between nvidia drivers and kdm was made to
trigger more often (#582550, #583312), wicd seem unable to do NFS
mounts and set up the network correctly (#508289, #581586), and
parallel booting fail completely with OpenVZ (#583562 fixed/worked
around by todays sysvinit upload).  I expect all of these to find some
solution before Squeeze is released, but can not guarantee it, of
course.

There is also an issue with bootchart reporting a slower boot for some
machines(#581907) , but I am starting to believe this is an artifact
of how bootchart measure the boot time (as in stopping the clock too
early in the non-parallel measurement), and not really a regression in
real boot speed.

What are the opinions on this?  Should we continue with parallel
booting, or go back to sequential boot for Squeeze?

Happy hacking,
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Bug#585439: ITP: spring-roo -- lightweight and rapid Java application development tool

2010-06-10 Thread Miguel Landaeta
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Miguel Landaeta 

* Package name: spring-roo
  Version : 1.0.2.RELEASE
  Upstream Author : SpringSource Inc.
* URL : http://www.springsource.org/roo
* License : GPL-3
  Programming Lang: Java
  Description : lightweight and rapid Java application development tool

Spring Roo is an open source software tool that uses
convention-over-configuration principles to provide rapid
application development of Java-based enterprise
software. The resulting applications use common Java
technologies such as Spring Framework, Java Persistence API,
Java Server Pages, Apache Maven and AspectJ among many
other standards.

Spring Roo's stated mission statement is to "fundamentally
and sustainably improve Java developer productivity without
compromising engineering integrity or flexibility".

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Xen for Squeeze, 3.4 or 4.0

2010-06-10 Thread Bastian Blank
Hi folks

I'm currently thinking about which version of Xen supporting in Squeeze.
There are two possibilities: 3.4 and 4.0. 3.4 is currently in testing
and unstable, 4.0 is in experimental.

Xen 3.4
===
Pros
- Proofed to be stable
Cons
- NUMA-mode only opt-in, no infos about stability
- Fails on several modern machines because of IO-APIC problems

Xen 4.0
===
Pros
- NUMA
- More tested with the Kernel in Squeeze
Cons
- Quite new

My personal preference would be to go with 4.0.

Bastian

Cc debian-devel, as there was quite a few discussions about this matter
in the last months.
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[RESENT] Re: Xen for Squeeze, 3.4 or 4.0

2010-06-10 Thread Bastian Blank
Whoops, wrong recipient.

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 05:54:28PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:
> I'm currently thinking about which version of Xen supporting in Squeeze.
> There are two possibilities: 3.4 and 4.0. 3.4 is currently in testing
> and unstable, 4.0 is in experimental.
> 
> Xen 3.4
> ===
> Pros
> - Proofed to be stable
> Cons
> - NUMA-mode only opt-in, no infos about stability
> - Fails on several modern machines because of IO-APIC problems
> 
> Xen 4.0
> ===
> Pros
> - NUMA
> - More tested with the Kernel in Squeeze
> Cons
> - Quite new
> 
> My personal preference would be to go with 4.0.
> 
> Bastian
> 
> Cc debian-devel, as there was quite a few discussions about this matter
> in the last months.

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Re: Xen for Squeeze, 3.4 or 4.0

2010-06-10 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 10 juin 2010 à 17:54 +0200, Bastian Blank a écrit :
> Xen 4.0
> ===
> Pros
> - NUMA
> - More tested with the Kernel in Squeeze
> Cons
> - Quite new
> 
> My personal preference would be to go with 4.0.

Your description sounds like it will be a lot easier to support 4.0, so
unless there is a known blocking issue with it, I tend to agree with
you.

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ITP: libdata-formvalidator-constraints-datetime-perl -- D::FV constraints for dates and times

2010-06-10 Thread Alan Haggai Alavi
Package: wnpp
Owner: Alan Haggai Alavi 
Severity: wishlist

*** Please type your report below this line ***

* Package name: libdata-formvalidator-constraints-datetime-perl
  Version : 1.11
  Upstream Author : Michael Peters 
* URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Data-FormValidator-
Constraints-DateTime/
* License : GPL, Artistic
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : D::FV constraints for dates and times

This package provides constraint routines for Data::FormValidator for dealing
with dates and times. It provides an easy mechanism for validating dates of 
any format (using strptime(3)) and transforming those dates (as long as you
'untaint' the fields) into valid DateTime objects, or into strings that would 
be properly formatted for various database engines.

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Re: [RESENT] Re: Xen for Squeeze, 3.4 or 4.0

2010-06-10 Thread Łukasz Oleś
2010/6/10 Bastian Blank :
>> My personal preference would be to go with 4.0.

I completely agree. Probably more people will use pvops kernel with
4.0 instead 3.4, so hopefully it will be better tested.

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Re: A lot of pending packages

2010-06-10 Thread gregor herrmann
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 06:01:27 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:

> My 2nd suggestion is coming from the Maemo platform (the OS behind
> the Nokia n900 that is Debian based). In Maemo, there is a "devel"
> repository that includes apps that aren't necessarily in good shape. The
> users know that fact when they are adding the repository which contains
> packages that are not necessarily as tested, and wont complain.

I'm not sure I like this idea. Although I also sometimes install
"inoffical packages", when I look at the packages with RC bugs I'm
constantly suprised about the amount of low-quality packages we
already have in the archive (when poor lintian has to emit page after
page of errors and warnings ...).

I understand that this new archive area  would be "non-offical", but
still my fear is that users won't distinguish and those packages
would be considered as "Debian packages" and might have the risk of
shedding a bad light on Debian quality.
 

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Re: A lot of pending packages

2010-06-10 Thread Thomas Goirand
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> My sponsoring preferences are available from
> http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/debian-sponsoring.html >.  To
> make sure I have direct contact with the prospective package
> maintainer and avoid a backlog of packages I should have sponsored, I
> want to be contacted on IRC about sponsoring.  So to me,
> mentors.debian.net is a nice repository to find the source, and
> uploading there is not the last step a future package maintainer need
> to take to get her packages sponsored.
>   
Hi,

Before I write anything else: I only need to have my Debian accounts
created and I'll be a DD. So, I am kind of seeing things with 2 different
viewpoint at the same time: from my sponsoree and future DD.

I got 2 suggestions to make about sponsoring. These are just raw ideas
that I am sending, I'm not sure if they are good, but I just want to share
what's in my mind. Feel free to comment and explain why I'm wrong.

Maybe we could imagine a kind of survey that the sponsor would write,
to tell how the new maintainer performed with his package, just right
after it has been sponsored. That of course, be some added sponsor's
work, but it could be kept small.

My 2nd suggestion is coming from the Maemo platform (the OS behind
the Nokia n900 that is Debian based). In Maemo, there is a "devel"
repository that includes apps that aren't necessarily in good shape. The
users know that fact when they are adding the repository which contains
packages that are not necessarily as tested, and wont complain.

I wonder if we could have such a repository in Debian, so that new
maintainers would have their packages sent there. We would have to
discuss what would be the rules to get from devel to SID. What I have
in mind could be checks like:
- the maintainer has been responsive for a period of time
- the packages of the maintainer have been in good shape as well

The issue really being the way the maintainer is reacting to issues,
rather than the issues themselves.

The advantage of this system would be that we wouldn't need so much
check to have apps going to devel. We could even think about it as a
big bazaar of ongoing work that would not need checks at all (apart
of course, licensing, that would still need strong checks). This would
prevent people from not being happy about sponsorship in SID.
The devel repository could be said as NOT part of Debian, just like
contrib and non-free.

Now, combine the 2 ideas. If a (new) maintainer has X good sponsor
surveys, then his package(s) would go from the devel repository to
SID automatically (after a DD checks for it manually and agree on
the decision), and he would gain the rights to have his packages
go directly to SID when they get sponsored.

Don't get me wrong, the idea is to have LESS checks on the sponsored
packages, rather than too much, so that we would have a faster
sponsoring process (new maintainers will be happy, sponsors too),
while still maintaining intensive quality checks in SID / testing.

Thomas


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Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] [RESENT] Re: Xen for Squeeze, 3.4 or 4.0

2010-06-10 Thread Thomas Goirand
Łukasz Oleś wrote:
> 2010/6/10 Bastian Blank :
>>> My personal preference would be to go with 4.0.
> 
> I completely agree. Probably more people will use pvops kernel with
> 4.0 instead 3.4, so hopefully it will be better tested.

Hi Bastian,

I have been running Xen 4.0.0 on my laptop since you made the Debian
package, and there wasn't a single glitch (apart maybe the hibernate
function which I don't really care about). Using an old version of Xen
that already receives less attention from upstream isn't a bright idea.
I believe that 4.0.1 will soon be released, which has many fixes.
There's lots of new interesting features in 4.x too (like blktap2, which
I believe you could re-add in the Debian package as the issue with
OpenSSL was only the md5 thing, I suppose you saw it). My vote goes for
4.0.x.

Thomas


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Re: A lot of pending packages

2010-06-10 Thread Jordan Metzmeier
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On 06/10/2010 06:01 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> My 2nd suggestion is coming from the Maemo platform (the OS behind
> the Nokia n900 that is Debian based). In Maemo, there is a "devel"
> repository that includes apps that aren't necessarily in good shape. The
> users know that fact when they are adding the repository which contains
> packages that are not necessarily as tested, and wont complain.
> 

Isn't this already called experimental? If not, how would it differ?

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Work-needing packages report for Jun 11, 2010

2010-06-10 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested
through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the
last week.

Total number of orphaned packages: 627 (new: 3)
Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 132 (new: 6)
Total number of packages requested help for: 65 (new: 0)

Please refer to http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ for more information.



The following packages have been orphaned:

   offlineimap (#585035), orphaned 2 days ago
 Description: IMAP/Maildir synchronization and reader support
 Installations reported by Popcon: 561

   timidity (#585039), orphaned 2 days ago
 Description: Software sound renderer (MIDI sequencer, MOD player)
 Reverse Depends: exult solfege songwrite timidity-daemon timidity-el
   timidity-interfaces-extra
 Installations reported by Popcon: 4807

   webcalendar (#585088), orphaned yesterday
 Description: PHP-Based multi-user calendar
 Installations reported by Popcon: 122

624 older packages have been omitted from this listing, see
http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/orphaned for a complete list.



The following packages have been given up for adoption:

   autounit (#585423), offered today
 Description: C unit testing framework interfacing well with
   autotools
 Reverse Depends: libautounit-dev
 Installations reported by Popcon: 18

   bookmarkbridge (#585421), offered today
 Description: tool to synchronize bookmarks between browsers
 Installations reported by Popcon: 149

   gtimelog (#585145), offered yesterday
 Description: minimal timelogging system
 Installations reported by Popcon: 111

   pstoedit (#585060), offered 2 days ago
 Description: PostScript and PDF files to editable vector graphics
   converter
 Reverse Depends: autotrace libautotrace-dev libautotrace3
   libpstoedit-dev pstoedit purifyeps
 Installations reported by Popcon: 13248

   pstotext (#585061), offered 2 days ago
 Description: Extract text from PostScript and PDF files
 Reverse Depends: dhelp steam
 Installations reported by Popcon: 1364

   scribes (#584529), offered 6 days ago
 Description: simple, slim and sleek, yet powerful text editor for
   GNOME
 Installations reported by Popcon: 140

126 older packages have been omitted from this listing, see
http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/rfa_bypackage for a complete list.



For the following packages help is requested:

   apt-cross (#540341), requested 307 days ago
 Description: retrieve, build and install libraries for
   cross-compiling
 Reverse Depends: apt-cross emdebian-crush
 Installations reported by Popcon: 341

   apt-xapian-index (#567955), requested 129 days ago
 Description: maintenance tools for a Xapian index of Debian packages
 Reverse Depends: adept ept-cache fuss-launcher
 Installations reported by Popcon: 12084

   ara (#450876), requested 942 days ago
 Description: utility for searching the Debian package database
 Installations reported by Popcon: 114

   asymptote (#517342), requested 468 days ago
 Description: script-based vector graphics language inspired by
   MetaPost
 Installations reported by Popcon: 1305

   athcool (#278442), requested 2053 days ago
 Description: Enable powersaving mode for Athlon/Duron processors
 Installations reported by Popcon: 144

   boinc (#511243), requested 518 days ago
 Description: BOINC distributed computing
 Reverse Depends: boinc-app-milkyway boinc-app-seti boinc-dbg
 Installations reported by Popcon: 1608

   chromium-browser (#583826), requested 11 days ago
 Description: Chromium browser
 Reverse Depends: chromium-browser chromium-browser-dbg
   chromium-browser-l10n gecko-mediaplayer sun-java6-plugin
 Installations reported by Popcon: 1266

   cvs (#354176), requested 1568 days ago
 Description: Concurrent Versions System
 Reverse Depends: crossvc cvs-autoreleasedeb cvs-buildpackage cvs2cl
   cvs2html cvschangelogbuilder cvsconnect cvsd cvsps cvsservice (11
   more omitted)
 Installations reported by Popcon: 24806

   dctrl-tools (#448284), requested 957 days ago
 Description: Command-line tools to process Debian package
   information
 Reverse Depends: aptfs debian-goodies debtree dlocate
   haskell-devscripts javahelper libsbuild-perl linux-patch-debianlogo
   simple-cdd ubuntu-dev-tools
 Installations reported by Popcon: 13135

   debtags (#567954), requested 129 days ago
 Description: Enables support for package tags
 Reverse Depends: debtags-edit goplay packagesearch
 Installations reported by Popcon: 2641

   dietlibc (#544060), requested 286 days ago
 Description: diet 

Re: [RESENT] Re: Xen for Squeeze, 3.4 or 4.0

2010-06-10 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010, Bastian Blank  wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 05:54:28PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:
> > I'm currently thinking about which version of Xen supporting in Squeeze.
> > There are two possibilities: 3.4 and 4.0. 3.4 is currently in testing
> > and unstable, 4.0 is in experimental.
> > 
> > Xen 3.4
> > ===
> > Pros
> > - Proofed to be stable

Not on my machines it hasn't.  One i386 server which ran Lenny/Xen for ages 
without problems (since before Lenny was released) is now running Xen 3.4 from 
Unstable and it's not going particularly well.  The other day it was in a 
cycle of booting and crashing when loading 2.6.32, I booted 2.6.26 and then 
before the init scripts finished I rebooted with 2.6.32 and it worked.

Different machines require different amounts of memory reserved for Dom0 for 
unknown reasons.

A couple of other machines which according to the Xen web site have suitable 
CPUs won't boot the Xen kernels that are currently in Unstable.

It just seems flakey to me.

> > Cons
> > - NUMA-mode only opt-in, no infos about stability
> > - Fails on several modern machines because of IO-APIC problems

It fails on plenty of i386 machines (P3 class) for me.

> > Xen 4.0
> > ===
> > Pros
> > - NUMA
> > - More tested with the Kernel in Squeeze
> > Cons
> > - Quite new
> > 
> > My personal preference would be to go with 4.0.

Based on my experience with Xen I think that we should have both.  Then if one 
doesn't work we can try the other.

My impression of Xen stability is that trying two different versions and 
hoping that one will work is a good strategy for any given server.

Bastian, thanks a lot for all your great work on this, it's very important to 
me and to lots of other people!

But through no fault of anyone in the Debian project I expect that an ideal 
result of one version that works well for almost everyone can't be achieved.


PS  It would be nice if we could get Grub2 updated to boot Xen kernels.  My SE 
Linux Play Machine is offline right now because I messed up the Grub2 
configuration so badly that it won't even give me a boot menu.

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Bug#585498: ITP: libaudio-ecasound-perl -- Perl binding to the ecasound sampler, recorder, fx-processor

2010-06-10 Thread Joel Roth
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: jo...@pobox.com

* Package name: libaudio-ecasound-perl
  Version : 0.93
  Upstream Author : Brad Bowman 
* URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Audio-Ecasound
* License : Artistic
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : Perl binding to the ecasound sampler, recorder, fx-processor

Audio::Ecasound provides perl bindings to the ecasound
control interface of the ecasound program. You can use perl
to automate or interact with ecasound so you don't have to
turn you back on the adoring masses packed into Wembly
Stadium.

Ecasound is a software package designed for multitrack audio
processing.  It can be used for audio playback, recording,
format conversions, effects processing, mixing, as a LADSPA
plugin host and JACK node.  Version >= 2.2.X must be
installed to use this package. 

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Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers unstable
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Re: [RESENT] Re: Xen for Squeeze, 3.4 or 4.0

2010-06-10 Thread Thomas Goirand
Russell Coker wrote:
> Based on my experience with Xen I think that we should have both.  Then if 
> one 
> doesn't work we can try the other.

I don't think having to do a double work is a good idea.

> My impression of Xen stability is that trying two different versions and 
> hoping that one will work is a good strategy for any given server.

Do you also hang garlic on the server, to bring good luck? COME ON...
this is computer science here, not voodoo! You should test things, see
what works best, and go with it. If you see bugs, try to remove them.

> Bastian, thanks a lot for all your great work on this, it's very important to 
> me and to lots of other people!

I agree.

> But through no fault of anyone in the Debian project I expect that an ideal 
> result of one version that works well for almost everyone can't be achieved.

I don't agree (see above).

Thomas


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Re: [RESENT] Re: Xen for Squeeze, 3.4 or 4.0

2010-06-10 Thread Michael Tautschnig
[3.4 vs. 4.0 ...]

> 
> Based on my experience with Xen I think that we should have both.  Then if 
> one 
> doesn't work we can try the other.
> 
> My impression of Xen stability is that trying two different versions and 
> hoping that one will work is a good strategy for any given server.
> 
> Bastian, thanks a lot for all your great work on this, it's very important to 
> me and to lots of other people!
> 

[...]

I have no idea how much work that is, but I do agree that having both versions
would be the optimal solution. Still, I completely understand that this likely
is infeasible given limited man power - but thank you very much for nicely
maintaining the Xen packages, I do truly enjoy using the packages in stable on
our servers without a single glitch!

Thanks a lot,
Michael



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RE: [Pkg-xen-devel] [RESENT] Re: Xen for Squeeze, 3.4 or 4.0

2010-06-10 Thread James Harper
> 
> PS  It would be nice if we could get Grub2 updated to boot Xen
kernels.  My SE
> Linux Play Machine is offline right now because I messed up the Grub2
> configuration so badly that it won't even give me a boot menu.
> 

I'm running grub from squeeze with a hand-compiled xen
4.0.1-rc. There are a few quirks with it (it eats the first
parameter for each kernel/module) but that's workaroundable.

It would be nice if it could automatically detect xen kernels when you
update-grub it though... or maybe that's what you were asking? Adding a
custom section to the .d directory works but is a bit messy.

James


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Re: [RESENT] Re: Xen for Squeeze, 3.4 or 4.0

2010-06-10 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010, Thomas Goirand  wrote:
> Russell Coker wrote:
> > Based on my experience with Xen I think that we should have both.  Then
> > if one doesn't work we can try the other.
> 
> I don't think having to do a double work is a good idea.

I agree that doubling the work is generally a bad idea.  If having two 
versions supported means that neither is supported properly then it makes 
sense to cut one - in which case I think we should drop 3.4 as it works badly 
enough for me that I can't imaging 4.0 being worse.

But I suspect that leaving 3.4 in it's current state would be a reasonable 
option, it works well on two out of five systems I've tried it on and it 
doesn't fail badly on machine three.

> > My impression of Xen stability is that trying two different versions and
> > hoping that one will work is a good strategy for any given server.
> 
> Do you also hang garlic on the server, to bring good luck? COME ON...
> this is computer science here, not voodoo! You should test things, see
> what works best, and go with it. If you see bugs, try to remove them.

Sometimes you test two options and find that for some systems one works well 
and for other systems the other works well.  Then if both options are 
available you can get most (maybe all) systems working well, but if one option 
isn't available then some systems don't work well.
 
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