Re: bindv6only again
On 2010-05-04, Vincent Danjean wrote: > On 27/04/2010 13:43, Marco d'Itri wrote: >> On Apr 27, Simon Huggins wrote: >>> Anyway, is there a reason that #560238 isn't blocked by #560044 given it >>> breaks that package or are you not bothered about breaking non-free >>> software? >> Nobody bothered to register this in the BTS, I did now. >> I am not a java user, so I am unable to evaluate the practical impact of >> this implementation being still broken. > From now, you can expect lots of French squeeze users being hit by > this bug. You have to expect testing and unstable breaking occassionally. Did you try icedtea-plugin (i.e. the free variant)? > So, with the current setting in sqeeze, the current practical impact > will be a very hard to diagnose bug for most of French Debian users (and a > bad publicity for Debian as it will be the only one Linux distribution > that will not work). It's not even stable. Kind regards, Philipp Kern -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnhu26ut.44q.tr...@kelgar.0x539.de
Re: pid file security
Stéphane Glondu writes: > Yves-Alexis Perez a écrit : >> And you usually need root access for invoke-rc.d or /etc/init.d scripts >> (unless you have some kind of specific sudo permissions for that). So >> you might be able to kill other process as well. > > I guess one (be it a human operator or a monit-like daemon) can be > easily fooled into restarting a service without checking. > > > Cheers, If monit, runit, upstart, heartbeat or whatever is used to monitor daemons does call stop+start then it is trivial. You are already the user the daemon runs under (or you wouldn't have write permissions to the pidfile) so just kill it. The next monitor run will then stop the pid you wrote and restart the normal daemon wiping any trace of what you did. MfG Goswin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87vdb2bw4w@frosties.localdomain
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Re: Confused by .la file removal vs static linking support
Zitat von Josselin Mouette : Le mardi 04 mai 2010 à 10:31 +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort a écrit : Sorry I don't know what you're talking about. If you can explain it I'll try to look at the problem. It’s not a problem, it’s a disagreement over a design choice. When you do that: #include you’re able to use gtk_* functions, but also g_* and pango_* functions, because the headers are designed so. Therefore, when you link to GTK+, you need to link explicitly to Pango and GLib. This is why Pango and GLib are in the Requires field for gtk+-2.0.pc, and not in Requires.private. Only when you use symbols from Pango or Glib directly. Having prototypes through gtk/gtk.h is not relevant. HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100505104724.ey9r4irge84oo...@v1539.ncsrv.de
Re: Confused by .la file removal vs static linking support
Hendrik Sattler, le Wed 05 May 2010 10:47:24 +0200, a écrit : > Zitat von Josselin Mouette : > > >Le mardi 04 mai 2010 à 10:31 +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort a écrit : > >>Sorry I don't know what you're talking about. If you can explain it > >> I'll try to > >>look at the problem. > > > >It’s not a problem, it’s a disagreement over a design choice. > > > >When you do that: > >#include > > > >you’re able to use gtk_* functions, but also g_* and pango_* functions, > >because the headers are designed so. > > > >Therefore, when you link to GTK+, you need to link explicitly to Pango > >and GLib. This is why Pango and GLib are in the Requires field for > >gtk+-2.0.pc, and not in Requires.private. > > Only when you use symbols from Pango or Glib directly. Having > prototypes through gtk/gtk.h is not relevant. A lot of gtk headers use GObjectClass types, macros and such, which are from Glib. You thus need both glib headers and libraries. Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100505095109.gf5...@const.bordeaux.inria.fr
Re: Confused by .la file removal vs static linking support
Hi, On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 11:51:09AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > A lot of gtk headers use GObjectClass types, macros and such, which are > from Glib. You thus need both glib headers and libraries. Gtk would also need to include the SONAME from glib into their own, given that ABI breaks in glib also implicitly break their own ABI. Simon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100505101801.ga2...@richter
Re: bindv6only again
On 05/05/2010 09:18, Philipp Kern wrote: > On 2010-05-04, Vincent Danjean wrote: >> On 27/04/2010 13:43, Marco d'Itri wrote: >>> On Apr 27, Simon Huggins wrote: Anyway, is there a reason that #560238 isn't blocked by #560044 given it breaks that package or are you not bothered about breaking non-free software? >>> Nobody bothered to register this in the BTS, I did now. >>> I am not a java user, so I am unable to evaluate the practical impact of >>> this implementation being still broken. >> From now, you can expect lots of French squeeze users being hit by >> this bug. > > You have to expect testing and unstable breaking occassionally. For this bug, it begins to be a long time with no visible improvement. > Did you try icedtea-plugin (i.e. the free variant)? Not me. But, from a thread in d-u-french: Le Tuesday 04 May 2010 à 21:35:44 (+0200), Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit : > Et t'arrive à aller sur le site des impôts avec icedtea6-plugin ? > Quand j'essaie ça se termine encore plus rapidement qu'avec le plugins de sun > car j'ai une erreur avant même la fin de la détection de la config ... [approx translation : Did you succeed with icedtea6-plugin on the government web site? When I try, it breaks more quickly than with the sun's plugin because I've an error before the end of the configuration detection ... ] So no, icedtea-plugin does not seems a good workaround. >> So, with the current setting in sqeeze, the current practical impact >> will be a very hard to diagnose bug for most of French Debian users (and a >> bad publicity for Debian as it will be the only one Linux distribution >> that will not work). > > It's not even stable. It should be soon and we should work in improving it... My main concerns about this bug is that it is VERY difficult to diagnose if you do not already know it. And I see in these threads lots of things broken (including sun java that it used/required for lots of software not necessarily packaged in Debian) and no visible gains for users. I do not understand what is the purpose to say we will wait before taking a decision. Either, we switched back to the previous (POSIX) setup (my preference) or we stick with this setup but actively work to correct the bugs in applications. I would find very strange if we release sqeeze with a broken sun's java (even if it is non-free) and no good replacement. > Kind regards, > Philipp Kern Regards, Vincent -- Vincent Danjean GPG key ID 0x9D025E87 vdanj...@debian.org GPG key fingerprint: FC95 08A6 854D DB48 4B9A 8A94 0BF7 7867 9D02 5E87 Unofficial packages: http://moais.imag.fr/membres/vincent.danjean/deb.html APT repo: deb http://perso.debian.org/~vdanjean/debian unstable main -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4be16437.30...@free.fr
Re: Confused by .la file removal vs static linking support
Le mercredi 05 mai 2010 à 12:18 +0200, Simon Richter a écrit : > Gtk would also need to include the SONAME from glib into their own, > given that ABI breaks in glib also implicitly break their own ABI. The GTK+ ABI stability guarantees are the same as the GLib ones. The SONAMEs can only be changed together. Cheers, -- .''`. Josselin Mouette : :' : `. `' “A handshake with whitnesses is the same `- as a signed contact.” -- Jörg Schilling -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1273064445.7305.5.ca...@meh
Bug#580358: ITP: CherryTree -- A hierarchical note taking application, featuring rich text and syntax highlighting.
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Francesco Aloe Owner: Francesco Aloe * Package name: CherryTree Version : 0.9.6 Upstream Author : Giuseppe Penone * URL : http://open.vitaminap.it/en/cherrytree.htm * License : GPL Programming Lang: Python Description : A hierarchical note taking application, featuring rich text and syntax highlighting. FEATURES: - rich text (foreground color, background color, bold, italic, underline, strikethrough, small, h1 and h2) - syntax highlighting (only when the rich text is disabled in the current node) - images handling: insertion in the text, edit (resize/rotate), save as png file - lists handling (bulleted and numbered and switch between them, multiline with shift+enter) - simple tables handling (cells with plain text) - alignment of text, images and tables (left/center/right) - hyperlinks (links to webpages, links to nodes/nodes + anchors, links to files) - node print & node save as pdf file: support for rich text and code; images and tables are not considered in the printing yet, the paragraph justification is also not supported yet - find a node, find in current node, find in all nodes - replace in node names, replace in current node, replace in all nodes - iteration of the latest find, iteration of the latest replace, iteration of the latest applied text formatting - import from a notecase file, import from a keepnote folder, import from a cherrytree file Requirements This application requires GTK+ version 2.14+. Other dependencies include: python-gtk2, python-gtksourceview2 GnomeFiles user rating: 8.26 / 10 with 87 votes My opinion it's a good program. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100505125808.1839.69718.report...@debian.mydeb.com
Bug#580375: ITP: libkinosearch1-perl -- Perl library providing search engine features
Package: wnpp Owner: Jonathan Yu Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org * Package name: libkinosearch1-perl Version : 1.00 Upstream Author : Marvin Humphrey * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/KinoSearch1/ * License : Artistic or GPL-1+ Programming Lang: Perl Description : Perl library providing search engine features KinoSearch is a loose port of the Java search engine library, Apache Lucene. It is written in Perl and C, designed primarily for providing website search functionality, but it can be put to many different uses. It has the following features: * Extremely fast and scalable: KinoSearch can handle millions of documents * Incremental indexing (addition/deletion of documents to/from an existing index) * Full support for 12 Indo-European languages * Support for boolean operators (AND, OR, and AND NOT), parenthetical groupings, and prepended +plus and -minus * Algorithmic selection of relevant excerpts and highlighting of search terms within excerpts * Highly customizable query and indexing APIs * Phrase matching * Stemming * Stoplists KinoSearch1 is derived from KinoSearch version 0.165 and is considered the stable upstream branch. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/x2pd1b732a71005050758s6dbfc622t74e4d220e54b7...@mail.gmail.com
Bug#580386: ITP: libclean-crypto-java -- Simplified and unrestricted javax.crypto bootstrap library
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Steffen Moeller Owner: Steffen Moeller Package name: libclean-crypto-java Version : 1 Upstream Author : Chris Grzegorczyk URL : https://code.launchpad.net/~chris-grze/eucalyptus-commons-ext/clean-crypto License : GPL Programming Lang: Java Description : Simplified and unrestricted javax.crypto bootstrap library Provides a simple unrestricted version of the javax.crypto package which can be provided when bootstrapping the Java Virtual Machine. This is needed to load, e.g., unsigned crypo SPI implementations. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100505171453.6754.36151.report...@toshiba.siemens
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