Bug#569681: ITP: trac-wikirename -- trac plugin which allows to rename wiki pages

2010-02-13 Thread Alexander Gerasiov
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Alexander Gerasiov 

* Package name: trac-wikirename
  Version : 2.1.1
  Upstream Author : Noah Kantrowitz 
* URL : //trac-hacks.org/wiki/WikiRenamePlugin
* License : BSD
  Programming Lang: Python
  Description : trac plugin which allows to rename wiki pages

 This plugin allows you to rename wiki pages. It will move a page and its
 history, and will rewrite explicit links ([wiki:PageName Label]) leading to it
 from other wiki pages. It will also move any attachments on the page.



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TCP SYN cookies and Bug #520668

2010-02-13 Thread Craig Small
Hello,
  There has been a bug opened for a while to enable TCP SYN cookies by
default. The current situation is /etc/sysctl.conf has this option, but
it is commented out.

The procps (sysctl.conf) bug is http://bugs.debian.org/520668 you may
also like to read the discussion about tcp(7) man page at
http://bugs.debian.org/253588 which discusses the mechanism too.

The general argument seems to be that:
 - SYN cookies, when activated, break certain options like large windows
   within TCP
The counter-argument is that:
 - Under the circumstances you have cookies activated your backlog is
   full so you lose the TCP session anyhow.

While initially skeptical, I can see that under high TCP loads having
some sort of connection is better than having no connection. Connections
with large windows will be dropped, but they would be anyhow.

My proposal is to change sysctl.conf so by default it will have TCP SYN
cookies ENABLED.  Anyone is quite able to change this but the default is
proposed to be enabled.

Before I make this change, I am emailling debian-devel for comments. I
am looking in particular for information about why it could be harmful
(if it is).

Please CC the BTS so I've got some tracking of it, thankyou!

  - Craig

Further references:
 http://cr.yp.to/syncookies.html
 http://lwn.net/Articles/277146/
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SYN_cookies

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Re: TCP SYN cookies and Bug #520668

2010-02-13 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 12:42:09AM +1100, Craig Small wrote:
> Before I make this change, I am emailling debian-devel for comments. I
> am looking in particular for information about why it could be harmful
> (if it is).

You forgot to mail the maintainer of the package you change the
configuration for. There are several packages now who applies various
changes and this are all global parameters.

Also you forget to mention my "no" as kernel maintainer.

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Re: TCP SYN cookies and Bug #520668

2010-02-13 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 16:08 +0100, Bastian Blank wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 12:42:09AM +1100, Craig Small wrote:
> > Before I make this change, I am emailling debian-devel for comments. I
> > am looking in particular for information about why it could be harmful
> > (if it is).
> 
> You forgot to mail the maintainer of the package you change the
> configuration for. There are several packages now who applies various
> changes and this are all global parameters.
> 
> Also you forget to mention my "no" as kernel maintainer.

I'm going to agree with Bastian here.  Single-user systems won't need
this and system administrators can make their own choice.

There is some ongoing work on enhanced TCP cookies, but it will not be
available for squeeze.

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Re: TCP SYN cookies and Bug #520668

2010-02-13 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 00:42:09 +1100, Craig Small wrote:

> My proposal is to change sysctl.conf so by default it will have TCP SYN
> cookies ENABLED.  Anyone is quite able to change this but the default is
> proposed to be enabled.
> 
> Before I make this change, I am emailling debian-devel for comments. I
> am looking in particular for information about why it could be harmful
> (if it is).
> 
I believe procps is the wrong place to make this change.  If we decide
that syncookies should be enabled, then that should be done in the
linux-2.6 package, IMO.

Cheers,
Julien


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experimental buildd link gone?

2010-02-13 Thread Steve M. Robbins
Hi,

The "links" box of the PTS used to have a link to the experimental
buildd logs.  I think I used it last week but today it is not
there; c.f. http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gmp.html

How can I see the logs?

Thanks,
-Steve


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ITP: kde-config-tablet -- implements a KDE configuration GUI for the Wacom drivers

2010-02-13 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer" 

* Package name: kde-config-tablet
  Version : 1.1.3
  Upstream Author : Jörg Ehrichs 
* URL : http://kde-
apps.org/content/show.php/kcm+tablet?content=114856
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: C++
  Description : implements a KDE configuration GUI for the Wacom drivers

KDE 4 KCModule

This module implements a GUI for the Wacom Linux Drivers and extends it
with profile support to handle different button / pen layouts per profile.

For hardware support have a look at http://www.linuxwacom.sourceforge.net

All tablets can be set up as long as they are found via xorg.conf or HAL
configuration.


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Re: experimental buildd link gone?

2010-02-13 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi,

Am Samstag, den 13.02.2010, 11:12 -0600 schrieb Steve M. Robbins:
> The "links" box of the PTS used to have a link to the experimental
> buildd logs.  I think I used it last week but today it is not
> there; c.f. http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gmp.html
> 
> How can I see the logs?

it’s only visible if the PTS knows about an experimental version, which
is not (yet) the case for gmp.

Here is your link:
https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=gmp&suite=experimental

Gruß,
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Re: TCP SYN cookies and Bug #520668

2010-02-13 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Feb 13, Ben Hutchings  wrote:

> I'm going to agree with Bastian here.  Single-user systems won't need
> this and system administrators can make their own choice.
I do not really disagree with your argument, but can you or the other
people who oppose this explain more clearly why you consider enabling
SYN cookies by default is a bad idea?

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Re: TCP SYN cookies and Bug #520668

2010-02-13 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 18:24 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Feb 13, Ben Hutchings  wrote:
> 
> > I'm going to agree with Bastian here.  Single-user systems won't need
> > this and system administrators can make their own choice.
> I do not really disagree with your argument, but can you or the other
> people who oppose this explain more clearly why you consider enabling
> SYN cookies by default is a bad idea?

The upstream default is that they are disabled.  The onus is on
proponents to argue why this should be changed.

Ben.

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Re: e2fsprogs not esential anymore?

2010-02-13 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Feb 07, Luk Claes  wrote:

> The whole archive needs to be scanned to see if no functionality of
> e2fsprogs is used without (build) dependency.
So, how can this be done?

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Re: TCP SYN cookies and Bug #520668

2010-02-13 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Feb 13, Ben Hutchings  wrote:

> The upstream default is that they are disabled.  The onus is on
> proponents to argue why this should be changed.
The proposed rationale for the change is that SYN cookies are not used
until the SYN queue is full and at that point it is more useful to have
new TCP sessions without window scaling than no new TCP sessions at all.
Do you disagree?

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Re: Bits from the NM people

2010-02-13 Thread Jan Dittberner
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 12:49:31AM +0100, Andreas Marschke wrote:
> On Monday 30 November 2009 00:08:20 Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> > > Lets say this package is maintained on Launchpad that also "maintainance"
> > > for debian or would this have to be on mentors.debian.org to be a valid
> > > maintainance? (Just curios as there use to be some discussion between the
> > > bloggers about that some time back)
> > 
> > Where it is maintained is irrelevant. What is important is the track
> > record within Debian, and that can be seen by tools like minechangelogs
> > and PTS for example. Or the handling of the bugs for this package that
> > you see via our BTS.
> > 
> But if I remember right ftp.debian.org is an official debian repository to 
> which 
> only the DDs/Maintainers of a package have access to. 
> Doesn't that mean I cant upload packages to this repository? Are there 
> exceptional places on ftp.debian.org a non-maintainer can upload his packages 
> to without triggering the alarmbells?

There is a difference between a package maintainer (the person or group
mentioned in a package's Maintainer field) and the Debian Maintainer (DM)
fields. While it is true that only DDs and DMs can upload to the archive, it is
still possible to maintain packages via a sponsor (who is actually uploading
packages for a non DD/DM maintainer. There are several good ways to find
sponsors, one is mentors.d.n [1] the other is one of the different teams [2].

[1] http://mentors.debian.net/
[2] http://wiki.debian.org/CategoryTeams

There are surely more ways to show activity even without uploading packages or
doing other packaging work.


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Re: TCP SYN cookies and Bug #520668

2010-02-13 Thread Florian Weimer
* Craig Small:

> While initially skeptical, I can see that under high TCP loads having
> some sort of connection is better than having no connection. Connections
> with large windows will be dropped, but they would be anyhow.

This argument ignores the non-attack overload case.  Lack of window
scaling may increase the load (in terms of the number of connections
required for achieve a certain level of aggregated bandwidth), making
such situations worse.

(Window scaling is more important than it used to be because
bandwidth-delay products tend to be larger these days.)


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Re: New Menu category Applictions/Multimedia

2010-02-13 Thread Frank Küster
Andreas Marschke  wrote:

>> Personally I think we should have gotten rid of the Debian menu years
>> ago, I don't think my opinion is shared by many people in Debian
>> though.
>> 
>
> It is truely kind of doubled effort to have the debian menu extra to the 
> actual 
> menu. The question is who will step forward and propose the removal?
>
> We can make a new thread for this.

Please read the archives. That has been discussed over and over.  By the
way, one thing you'll learn is to use terms that everyone understands
without problems, and that not everyone is using a "Desktop
envirnoment".  In my window manager, there's only one menu, and that's
the Debian one.

Regards, Frank

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Possible DDPOMail improvements?

2010-02-13 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi,

I just sent a batch of DDPOMail emails. Those emails are sent to
maintainers, co-maintainers and PTS subscribers, and report about
"serious" issues in the packages. Currently, it reports about:

1. RC bugs in unstable
2. Release Goal bugs in unstable
3. Missing builds on some architectures (not those in the Needs-Build
state)
4. Long delays in testing migration
5. New upstream releases
6. Lintian errors and warnings (only their number)

It could also report (i.e the code is there, but it's disabled
currently) on:
7. RC bugs in stable
8. Unfixed security issues (according to the security team tracker)

With the current settings, we send ~1300 mails. If you have never
received one of those mails, you can take a look at [1] for a rather
complete example.
[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-qa-packages/2010/02/msg00272.html


We (Raphael Geissert, who did most of the work on that service recently,
and me) believe those mails are useful, since we did not get too many
unsubscribe requests, and also got some "thank you" from people who use
it as a TODO list.

But we are constantly wondering where we should go from there. Should we
add more data (like the RC bugs in stable and the unfixed security
issues)? Or should we instead try to decrease the amount of data (to
increase the signal/noise ratio), for example by not reporting about
Lintian errors and warnings?

- Lucas


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Re: TCP SYN cookies and Bug #520668

2010-02-13 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010, Florian Weimer wrote:

> * Craig Small:
> 
> > While initially skeptical, I can see that under high TCP loads having
> > some sort of connection is better than having no connection. Connections
> > with large windows will be dropped, but they would be anyhow.
> 
> This argument ignores the non-attack overload case.  Lack of window
> scaling may increase the load (in terms of the number of connections
> required for achieve a certain level of aggregated bandwidth), making
> such situations worse.
> 
> (Window scaling is more important than it used to be because
> bandwidth-delay products tend to be larger these days.)

AIUI syn cookies will not affect anything while things are normal, that
is window scaling and other TCP options will still work as they should.

Once the syn queue gets full and new connections would be dropped syn
cookies start becoming active, still accepting connections but without
options such as window scaling enabled.

If your choice is to get no connection or a connection without the
window scale option which would you pick?

Cheers,
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Re: Possible DDPOMail improvements?

2010-02-13 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 08:46:31PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> But we are constantly wondering where we should go from there. Should we
> add more data (like the RC bugs in stable and the unfixed security
> issues)? Or should we instead try to decrease the amount of data (to
> increase the signal/noise ratio), for example by not reporting about
> Lintian errors and warnings?

One thing that would be nice, but that is not directly related to DDPO
messages or the PTS, though it's always when i receive the DDPO mail
that i think about it, would be to allow upstream version tracking of
branches.

For example, right now, for iceweasel, version 3.6 is reported as the
last version, which is nice, but i'd also like to be able to get a
report when 3.5.8 is going to be released, though i'd also like to keep
the current tracking for the 3.6 versions.

Mike


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Re: Possible DDPOMail improvements?

2010-02-13 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi,

On Sat, 13 Feb 2010, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> I just sent a batch of DDPOMail emails. Those emails are sent to

Thank you for your work on this, it's definitely useful.

> But we are constantly wondering where we should go from there. Should we
> add more data (like the RC bugs in stable and the unfixed security
> issues)? Or should we instead try to decrease the amount of data (to
> increase the signal/noise ratio), for example by not reporting about
> Lintian errors and warnings?

It would be nice to have a web version of it so that I can quickly check
that I did not miss something important. It could also be useful in MIA/QA
to see how many problems someone has left accumulating.

RC bugs in stable would be nice if we can get a way to tag them
"wontfix-in-stable". Because not all RC bugs affecting stable will
be fixed by stable updates and they should not clutter this report
indefinitely. (I know we can tag the bug "sid squeeze" to indicate
that the bug only applies to those distributions but that's not what I'm
saying above)

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Re: Possible DDPOMail improvements?

2010-02-13 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Lucas,

thanks to you and Raphael for your DDPOMail efforts! I find them very useful.

On Samstag, 13. Februar 2010, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> It could also report (i.e the code is there, but it's disabled
> currently) on:
> 7. RC bugs in stable
> 8. Unfixed security issues (according to the security team tracker)

I'd like to see that information too.


cheers,
Holger


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Re: initial packages with multiarch paths

2010-02-13 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 12:48:39AM +, Simon McVittie wrote:
> Does this look OK for upload to experimental, and if not, what changes
> are needed?

FWIW, it was an unintended consequence of the wording of the policy change
that static libs and .so symlinks are permitted in the multiarch dirs at
this point - I only had runtime components in mind and expected that the
bits in -dev packages would all wait until later when the could all be
changed at once.

But I can't actually see any way that this is harmful, so I guess it's ok.

> libgfshare.pc
> =

> # Copyright (c) Daniel Silverstone  2006

> prefix=/usr
> exec_prefix=${prefix}
> libdir=/usr/lib/i486-linux-gnu
> includedir=${prefix}/include

> Name: libgfshare
> Description: Secret Sharing in gf(2^8) library.
> Version: 1.0.3
> Libs: -L${libdir} -lgfshare
> Cflags: -I${includedir}

We don't really want extra -L options passed to the build for every library
that's installed to the multiarch lib dir.  Does pkgconfig filter these out?
Has anyone verified that these extra -L options don't cause libtool to add
wrong rpaths to resulting binaries?

> Files only in first set of .debs, found in package libgfshare-dbg
> -
> -rw-r--r--  root/root   /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/libgfshare.so.1.0.3

Has anyone checked that gdb will succeed in finding debug symbols via the
multiarch paths?  (I guess gdb handles these generically by prepending
/usr/lib/debug to the real object path, but probably should be
double-checked anyway)

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Bug#569749: ITP: libnet-smtp-tls-perl -- Perl SMTP client library supporting TLS and AUTH

2010-02-13 Thread Ivan Kohler
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Ivan Kohler 

* Package name: libnet-smtp-tls-perl
  Version : 0.12
  Upstream Author : Alexander Christian Westholm, awestholm at verizon dawt net
* URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Net-SMTP-TLS/
* License : Perl
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : Perl SMTP client library supporting TLS and AUTH

Net::SMTP::TLS is a TLS and AUTH capable SMTP client library which offers an
interface that users will find familiar from Net::SMTP. Net::SMTP::TLS
implements a subset of the methods provided by that module, but certainly not
(yet) a complete mirror image of that API.



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Bug#569748: ITP: libnet-smtp-tls-perl -- A Perl SMTP client library supporting TLS and AUTH

2010-02-13 Thread Ivan Kohler
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Ivan Kohler 

* Package name: libnet-smtp-tls-perl
  Version : 0.12
  Upstream Author : Alexander Christian Westholm, awestholm at verizon dawt net
* URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Net-SMTP-TLS/
* License : Perl
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : A Perl SMTP client library supporting TLS and AUTH



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Bug#569751: ITP: libemail-sender-transport-smtp-tls-perl -- SMTP transport class for Email::Sender supporting TLS and AUTH

2010-02-13 Thread Ivan Kohler
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Ivan Kohler 

* Package name: libemail-sender-transport-smtp-tls-perl
  Version : 0.04
  Upstream Author : Fayland Lam 
* URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Email-Sender-Transport-SMTP-TLS/
* License : Perl
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : SMTP transport class for Email::Sender supporting TLS and 
AUTH

A transport class for use with Email::Sender (libemail-sender-perl) which
implements SMTP with TLS and AUTH.



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Re: New Menu category Applictions/Multimedia

2010-02-13 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 3:51 AM, Frank Küster  wrote:

> Please read the archives. That has been discussed over and over.  By the
> way, one thing you'll learn is to use terms that everyone understands
> without problems, and that not everyone is using a "Desktop
> envirnoment".  In my window manager, there's only one menu, and that's
> the Debian one.

Which window manager is that?

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Re: TCP SYN cookies and Bug #520668

2010-02-13 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 2:08 AM, Marco d'Itri  wrote:
> On Feb 13, Ben Hutchings  wrote:
>
>> The upstream default is that they are disabled.  The onus is on
>> proponents to argue why this should be changed.
>
> The proposed rationale for the change is that SYN cookies are not used
> until the SYN queue is full and at that point it is more useful to have
> new TCP sessions without window scaling than no new TCP sessions at all.
> Do you disagree?

It might be instructive to look at the upstream netdev list, I found a
recentish thread about this topic:

http://lists.openwall.net/netdev/2009/10/16/74

Kinda a dissapointing thread, but it reveals a few points:

http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0807.3/0050.html
http://lists.openwall.net/netdev/2009/10/21/42
http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/2/5/167
http://lists.openwall.net/netdev/2009/10/21/70

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Re: Possible DDPOMail improvements?

2010-02-13 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 3:46 AM, Lucas Nussbaum
 wrote:

> It could also report (i.e the code is there, but it's disabled
> currently) on:
> 7. RC bugs in stable
> 8. Unfixed security issues (according to the security team tracker)

Yummy, yes please!

I'd suggest including oldstable RC bugs and security issues too.

The security tracker lists issues fixed in stable-security but not
stable (ie, no point release yet) as still open, please ensure that
DDPOMail handles this appropriately. I think we can assume that most
if not all stable users also use stable-security.

> We (Raphael Geissert, who did most of the work on that service recently,
> and me) believe those mails are useful, since we did not get too many
> unsubscribe requests, and also got some "thank you" from people who use
> it as a TODO list.

Thank you very much for that work.

> But we are constantly wondering where we should go from there. Should we
> add more data (like the RC bugs in stable and the unfixed security
> issues)? Or should we instead try to decrease the amount of data (to
> increase the signal/noise ratio), for example by not reporting about
> Lintian errors and warnings?

I'd lean towards more info. I imagine others would prefer less. So
perhaps a subscription setting would be useful.

I'd like to echo buxy's suggestion about a web-based version, which
would satisfy #461898.

PET from the pkg-perl folks comes close, but isn't available for every
maintainer/uploader (only specific teams who installed it) and doesn't
cover everything in DDPOMail.

http://pkg-perl.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/pet.cgi

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Re: TCP SYN cookies and Bug #520668

2010-02-13 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Feb 14, Paul Wise  wrote:

> Kinda a dissapointing thread, but it reveals a few points:
I see more handwaving than points.

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Re: initial packages with multiarch paths

2010-02-13 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Steve Langasek 

| We don't really want extra -L options passed to the build for every
| library that's installed to the multiarch lib dir.  Does pkgconfig
| filter these out?

Not yet.

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