Re: please test with tiff 4.0.0~beta4 from experimental

2009-11-05 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Bernd Zeimetz  writes:

> Jay Berkenbilt wrote:
>> If you maintain a debian package that directly uses libtiff or if you
>> maintain software that uses libtiff, it would be a great help if you
>> could test your packages against the version of libtiff in experimental,
>> 4.0.0~beta4.  If you find any problems, please report them as bugs
>> against the tiff package in the debian BTS.  If you test and everything
>> works fine, I'd like to know that as well as I can communicate back to
>> upstream.
>
> I gave radiance a try and everything seems to work as expected. Just uploaded 
> it
> to unstable in case somebody wants to play with the latest cvs head and the 
> new
> libtiff.

Unstable or experimental? If you build against experimental libtiff
then you should have uploaded to experimental.

MfG
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Re: please test with tiff 4.0.0~beta4 from experimental

2009-11-05 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Bernd Zeimetz  writes:
> 
>> Jay Berkenbilt wrote:
>>> If you maintain a debian package that directly uses libtiff or if you
>>> maintain software that uses libtiff, it would be a great help if you
>>> could test your packages against the version of libtiff in experimental,
>>> 4.0.0~beta4.  If you find any problems, please report them as bugs
>>> against the tiff package in the debian BTS.  If you test and everything
>>> works fine, I'd like to know that as well as I can communicate back to
>>> upstream.
>> I gave radiance a try and everything seems to work as expected. Just 
>> uploaded it
>> to unstable in case somebody wants to play with the latest cvs head and the 
>> new
>> libtiff.
> 
> Unstable or experimental? If you build against experimental libtiff
> then you should have uploaded to experimental.

Err yes. s/unstable/experimental/

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Re: dep3 nit-picks

2009-11-05 Thread Raphael Hertzog
[ moving to -devel from a private discussion to have more feedback ]

Daniel was asking me how several unstructured paragraphs are supposed to
be treated for the Description field. I told him that the description is
the concatenation of all of them. Do other people agree with Daniel that
the points that he raises need clarifications?

DEP URL for reference: http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep3/

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
> On 11/05/2009 02:45 AM, Raphaël Hertzog wrote:
> > It's the concatenation of all of them. Can you suggest a wording that
> > would make it more clear?
> 
> what about:
> 
>  Any parser that expects those fields in patch headers should also
>  accept non-structured content and simply append the non-structured
>  content to the value of the `Description` field.

Looks reasonable.

> A few more nit-picks that i just noticed:
> 
> 2) there is a distinction made between the header and the pseudo-header,
> but it's not clear if the placement of fields in one or the other has
> any meaning.  Is information in the pseudo-header expected to be treated
> any differently than information in the regular header?
> 
> I think the answer is "no, there is no difference", but the document
> never says that explicitly, and the act of naming the second header
> implies that the name will be used elsewhere in the document, though it
> never is. (as someone immersed in debian lore, i assume that the act of
> naming the pseudo-header is to give readers a point of reference to the
> BTS, the other place where two sets of 2822-like headers show up -- but
> that's implicit in the context, and not explicit in the document).

How can we make that explicit? Would replacing « (the
“pseudo-header”) » with « (sometimes called the “pseudo-header”
in other contexts) » be appropriate?

> 3) multiple copies of a given field?  section 3.6 of RFC 2822 gives
> counts of the number of times a given field may appear in a header:
> 
>   http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2822#section-3.6
> 
> The only field in DEP3 that explicitly says it can be used multiple
> times is Reviewed-By or Acked-By

Not true, it's also said for Bug/Bug-/Author/From

> -- but i don't see anything else that
> says that the other fields *cannot* be used multiple times.

Do we really need to make that explicit?

Description/Subject/Forwarded/Last-Update/Origin are expected to be
unique.

> 4) Reviewed-By is semantically unclear.  I can review something and
> decide it's a bad idea.  In that case, it has been reviewed by dkg, but
> would it really be Reviewed-By: dkg?  probably not (i'm assuming there's
> considered to be no semantic difference between Reviewed-By and
> Acked-By).  I'm not suggesting that we change the header label
> necessarily (and i don't know why it was changed from Signed-off-by to
> Reviewed-by in the first place -- can you point me to any discussion
> about that change?), but if "Reviewed-By" is going to have any sort of
> "stamp of approval" connotation, it should be explicitly noted someplace.

It has an implicit meaning of approval yes. If the review was negative, it
should not be added or it should be clarified in the Description what the
reviewer's comments were (always a good idea).

Proposition of patches welcome. Please search the debian-devel archives
for the discussion about the rename. It was in june IIRC. Signed-off-by
has precisely been dismissed because it doesn's have this approval
connotation.

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Re: dep3 nit-picks

2009-11-05 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 11/05/2009 04:44 PM, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> It has an implicit meaning of approval yes. If the review was negative, it
> should not be added or it should be clarified in the Description what the
> reviewer's comments were (always a good idea).
>
> Proposition of patches welcome. Please search the debian-devel archives
> for the discussion about the rename. It was in june IIRC. Signed-off-by
> has precisely been dismissed because it doesn's have this approval
> connotation.

This appears to be the reason:

  http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/06/msg00459.html

the implication is that people "signing off" on a patch haven't
necessarily read the code directly, but are approving it.

I assume the goal is to imply both "i've read it" and "i approve it"
with a single header, right?

Since i know of no single word for this, i'd be fine with explicitly
stating that is the intent in DEP-3 description of the Reviewed-By
field, with just:

   s/reviewed by someone/reviewed and approved by someone/

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Re: dep3 nit-picks

2009-11-05 Thread James Vega
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Raphael Hertzog  wrote:
> [ moving to -devel from a private discussion to have more feedback ]
>
> Daniel was asking me how several unstructured paragraphs are supposed to
> be treated for the Description field. I told him that the description is
> the concatenation of all of them. Do other people agree with Daniel that
> the points that he raises need clarifications?
>
> DEP URL for reference: http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep3/
>
> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
>> On 11/05/2009 02:45 AM, Raphaël Hertzog wrote:
>> 4) Reviewed-By is semantically unclear.  I can review something and
>> decide it's a bad idea.  In that case, it has been reviewed by dkg, but
>> would it really be Reviewed-By: dkg?  probably not (i'm assuming there's
>> considered to be no semantic difference between Reviewed-By and
>> Acked-By).

Workflows can differentiate between Reviewed-By and Acked-By, but that's
not necessary (e.g., Reviewed-By indicates a positive review, Acked-By
indicates approval to commit).

>> I'm not suggesting that we change the header label
>> necessarily (and i don't know why it was changed from Signed-off-by to
>> Reviewed-by in the first place -- can you point me to any discussion
>> about that change?),

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.general/141581

>> but if "Reviewed-By" is going to have any sort of
>> "stamp of approval" connotation, it should be explicitly noted someplace.
>
> It has an implicit meaning of approval yes. If the review was negative, it
> should not be added or it should be clarified in the Description what the
> reviewer's comments were (always a good idea).

Right.  I'd think that if there were a negative review, the proposer of
the patch would go back to work on it further before resubmitting.

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Re: dep3 nit-picks

2009-11-05 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
> I assume the goal is to imply both "i've read it" and "i approve it"
> with a single header, right?

Yes.

> Since i know of no single word for this, i'd be fine with explicitly
> stating that is the intent in DEP-3 description of the Reviewed-By
> field, with just:
> 
>s/reviewed by someone/reviewed and approved by someone/

Looks reasonable too, also added to my next batch of updates.

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binutils-gold and symbols files

2009-11-05 Thread Michael Biebl
As I received a couple of bug reports today about packages FTBFS, I installed
binutils-gold and tried to compile a few of my packages with it.

What I noticed is, that every package with symbols file, produced a lintian
error, as binutils-gold added new symbols, the most common one was
e...@base

What's the reason for those additional symbol(s) with binutils-gold?

Michael


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Work-needing packages report for Nov 6, 2009

2009-11-05 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested
through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the
last week.

Total number of orphaned packages: 670 (new: 64)
Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 154 (new: 4)
Total number of packages requested help for: 53 (new: 1)

Please refer to http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ for more information.



The following packages have been orphaned:

   antennavis (#553390), orphaned 6 days ago
 Description: antenna visualization software
 Installations reported by Popcon: 76

   bbkeys (#553347), orphaned 6 days ago
 Description: A key-grabber for any NETWM/EMWH-compliant window
   manager
 Installations reported by Popcon: 205

   blackbox-themes (#553348), orphaned 6 days ago
 Description: Themes for the Blackbox Windowmanager
 Installations reported by Popcon: 221

   cabber (#553902), orphaned 3 days ago
 Description: Easy and basic jabber console client
 Installations reported by Popcon: 112

   callgit (#553391), orphaned 6 days ago
 Description: lookup callsigns at qrz.com
 Installations reported by Popcon: 38

   cd5 (#554055), orphaned 3 days ago
 Description: Compute checksum of individual track on CD-ROMS
 Installations reported by Popcon: 37

   cdtool (#554451), orphaned yesterday
 Installations reported by Popcon: 996

   colormake (#554004), orphaned 3 days ago
 Description: simple wrapper around make to colorize output
 Installations reported by Popcon: 556

   colrconv (#553393), orphaned 6 days ago
 Description: Convers client with curses color support
 Installations reported by Popcon: 19

   colrdx (#553395), orphaned 6 days ago
 Description: DX-cluster client with curses color support
 Installations reported by Popcon: 27

   cwdaemon (#553396), orphaned 6 days ago
 Description: morse daemon for the parallel or serial port
 Installations reported by Popcon: 52

   cwirc (#553397), orphaned 6 days ago
 Description: X-Chat morse plugin
 Installations reported by Popcon: 25

   dangen (#554249), orphaned 2 days ago
 Description: shoot 'em up game where accurate shooting matters
 Installations reported by Popcon: 133

   flex-old (#553704), orphaned 4 days ago
 Installations reported by Popcon: 223

   gcb (#553654), orphaned 4 days ago
 Description: Utility to calculate long and short path to a location
 Installations reported by Popcon: 44

   ghextris (#553486), orphaned 5 days ago
 Description: A Tetris-like game on a hexagonal grid
 Installations reported by Popcon: 166

   giftoxic (#553349), orphaned 6 days ago
 Description: GTK2 based GUI for the giFT filesharing system
 Installations reported by Popcon: 114

   glfer (#553655), orphaned 4 days ago
 Description: program for reception and transmission of QRSS/DFCW
   signals
 Installations reported by Popcon: 33

   gmanedit (#553984), orphaned 3 days ago
 Description: GTK+ man pages editor
 Installations reported by Popcon: 101

   googlizer (#554674), orphaned today
 Description: utility to search Google via your GNOME menu/panel
 Installations reported by Popcon: 293

   gpsk31 (#553657), orphaned 4 days ago
 Description: A gtk based psk31
 Installations reported by Popcon: 51

   grandfatherclock (#554250), orphaned 2 days ago
 Description: a clock that tolls time acoustically
 Installations reported by Popcon: 112

   grig (#553658), orphaned 4 days ago
 Description: graphical user interface to the Ham Radio Control
   Libraries
 Installations reported by Popcon: 49

   gtk2-engines-cleanice (#553506), orphaned 5 days ago
 Description: CleanIce themes for GTK+ 2.x
 Installations reported by Popcon: 1057

   gtk2-engines-magicchicken (#553505), orphaned 5 days ago
 Description: Magic Chicken themes for GTK+ 2.x
 Installations reported by Popcon: 838

   happydigger (#553982), orphaned 3 days ago
 Description: Program for cataloging for archaeological finds
 Installations reported by Popcon: 9

   ibp (#553985), orphaned 3 days ago
 Description: Viewer for the International Beacon Project
 Installations reported by Popcon: 33

   libpano12 (#554056), orphaned 3 days ago
 Description: panorama tools library development files
 Reverse Depends: libpano12-bin libpano12-dev
 Installations reported by Popcon: 409

   makeztxt (#553459), orphaned 5 days ago
 Description: Create zTXT databases from ASCII files to read them in
   a Palm
 Installations reported by Popcon: 46

   marote (#553989), orphaned 3 days ago
 Description: Rig Control Program for the Elecraft K2
 Installations reported by Popcon: 11

   minimuf (#553990), orphaned 3 days ago
 Description: program to predict high frequency propagation data
 Installat

Re: Bug#554694: FTBFS with binutils-gold

2009-11-05 Thread Dmitry E. Oboukhov
reassign 554694 qt4-qmake
retitle 554694 qt4-qmake generates a makefile which is incompatible with 
binutils-gold
thanks

Hi, Peter.

Goldendict are built by qt4-qmake. I think that You should report
about such projects in qt4-qmake package, because just qt4-qmake
generates linker call command. I think that it is the same as packages
which are under automake/autoconf.

You buried me with the same bugs, but only one really touched my
package. I think You should find out which specific a package has a bug
before submit bugreports.

For example: fluxbox is built with autotools. goldendict is built with
qt4-qmake. Do You suggest me to patch all these packages?


On 00:31 Fri 06 Nov , Peter Fritzsche wrote:
PF> Source: goldendict
PF> Version: 0.9.0+svn404-1
PF> Severity: minor
PF> User: peter.fritzs...@gmx.de
PF> Usertags: no-add-needed

PF> Tried to build your package and it fails to build with GNU binutils-gold. 
The
PF> important difference is that --no-add-needed is the default behavior of of 
GNU
PF> binutils-gold. Please provide all needed libraries to the linker when 
building
PF> your executables.

PF> More informations can be found at
PF> 
http://wiki.debian.org/qa.debian.org/FTBFS#A2009-11-02Packagesfailingbecausebinutils-gold.2BAC8-indirectlinking

PF> g++ -Wl,-O1 -o goldendict build/folding.o build/main.o build/dictionary.o 
build/config.o build/sources.o build/mainwindow.o build/utf8.o build/file.o 
build/bgl_babylon.o build/bgl.o build/initializing.o build/article_netmgr.o 
build/dictzip.o build/btreeidx.o build/stardict.o build/chunkedstorage.o 
build/xdxf2html.o build/iconv.o build/lsa.o build/htmlescape.o build/dsl.o 
build/dsl_details.o build/filetype.o build/fsencoding.o build/groups.o 
build/groups_widgets.o build/instances.o build/article_maker.o 
build/scanpopup.o build/articleview.o build/externalviewer.o build/wordfinder.o 
build/groupcombobox.o build/keyboardstate.o build/mouseover.o 
build/preferences.o build/mutex.o build/mediawiki.o build/sounddir.o 
build/hunspell.o build/dictdfiles.o build/audiolink.o build/wstring.o 
build/wstring_qt.o build/processwrapper.o build/hotkeywrapper.o 
build/hotkeyedit.o build/langcoder.o build/editdictionaries.o 
build/loaddictionaries.o build/transliteration.o build/romaji.o 
build/russiantranslit.o build/german.o build
PF> /website.o build/orderandprops.o build/language.o build/dictionarybar.o 
build/broken_xrecord.o build/history.o build/atomic_rename.o 
build/articlewebview.o build/zipfile.o build/indexedzip.o 
build/moc_mainwindow.o build/moc_dictionary.o build/moc_config.o 
build/moc_sources.o build/moc_initializing.o build/moc_article_netmgr.o 
build/moc_groups.o build/moc_groups_widgets.o build/moc_article_maker.o 
build/moc_scanpopup.o build/moc_articleview.o build/moc_externalviewer.o 
build/moc_wordfinder.o build/moc_groupcombobox.o build/moc_mouseover.o 
build/moc_preferences.o build/moc_mediawiki.o build/moc_hotkeywrapper.o 
build/moc_hotkeyedit.o build/moc_editdictionaries.o 
build/moc_loaddictionaries.o build/moc_orderandprops.o 
build/moc_dictionarybar.o build/moc_history.o build/qrc_resources.o 
build/qrc_flags.o-L/usr/lib -lvorbisfile -lvorbis -logg -lz -lhunspell-1.2 
-lXtst -lQtWebKit -lQtXml -lQtGui -lQtNetwork -lQtCore -lpthread
PF> /usr/bin/ld: build/keyboardstate.o: in function 
KeyboardState::checkModifiersPressed(int):keyboardstate.cc:33: error: undefined 
reference to 'XkbGetState'
PF> /usr/bin/ld: build/hotkeywrapper.o: in function 
HotkeyWrapper::ungrabKey(std::_Rb_tree_const_iterator >):hotkeywrapper.cc:481: error: undefined reference to 
'XUngrabKey'
PF> /usr/bin/ld: build/hotkeywrapper.o: in function 
HotkeyWrapper::grabKey(unsigned int, unsigned int):hotkeywrapper.cc:473: error: 
undefined reference to 'XGrabKey'
PF> /usr/bin/ld: build/hotkeywrapper.o: in function 
HotkeyWrapper::init():hotkeywrapper.cc:305: error: undefined reference to 
'XKeysymToKeycode'
PF> /usr/bin/ld: build/hotkeywrapper.o: in function 
HotkeyWrapper::init():hotkeywrapper.cc:306: error: undefined reference to 
'XKeysymToKeycode'
PF> /usr/bin/ld: build/hotkeywrapper.o: in function 
HotkeyWrapper::init():hotkeywrapper.cc:308: error: undefined reference to 
'XKeysymToKeycode'
PF> /usr/bin/ld: build/hotkeywrapper.o: in function 
HotkeyWrapper::init():hotkeywrapper.cc:309: error: undefined reference to 
'XKeysymToKeycode'
PF> /usr/bin/ld: build/hotkeywrapper.o: in function 
HotkeyWrapper::init():hotkeywrapper.cc:321: error: undefined reference to 
'XOpenDisplay'
PF> /usr/bin/ld: build/hotkeywrapper.o: in function 
HotkeyWrapper::init():hotkeywrapper.cc:350: error: undefined reference to 
'XSync'
PF> /usr/bin/ld: build/hotkeywrapper.o: in function 
HotkeyWrapper::init():hotkeywrapper.cc:330: error: undefined reference to 
'XCloseDisplay'
PF> /usr/bin/ld: build/hotkeywrapper.o: in function 
HotkeyWrapper::init():hotkeywrapper.cc:344: error: undefined reference to 
'XFree'
PF> /usr/bin/ld: build/hotkeywrapper.o: in function 
HotkeyWrapper::init()

Re: binutils-gold and symbols files

2009-11-05 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Nov 06, 2009 at 12:44:31AM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote:
> As I received a couple of bug reports today about packages FTBFS, I installed
> binutils-gold and tried to compile a few of my packages with it.
> 
> What I noticed is, that every package with symbols file, produced a lintian
> error, as binutils-gold added new symbols, the most common one was
> e...@base
> 
> What's the reason for those additional symbol(s) with binutils-gold?

Corollary: can't they be hidden ?

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Re: binutils-gold and symbols files

2009-11-05 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 06, 2009 at 12:44:31AM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote:
> > As I received a couple of bug reports today about packages FTBFS, I 
> > installed
> > binutils-gold and tried to compile a few of my packages with it.
> > 
> > What I noticed is, that every package with symbols file, produced a lintian
> > error, as binutils-gold added new symbols, the most common one was
> > e...@base
> > 
> > What's the reason for those additional symbol(s) with binutils-gold?
> 
> Corollary: can't they be hidden ?

If necessary, they can be blacklisted by dpkg-gensymbols, it already
does that for a couple of internal symbols that the toolchain does add
automatically. Please file a wishlist bug against dpkg-dev with the list
of symbols in that case.

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